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Posted by: JayBR
The DVX is faster, look at all the mags for Z400 vs 400ex shootouts, DVX is the same motor and chassis as the Z.
How fast does it go? I don't know a top speed, but it's not as fast as my dale
Posted by: JayBR
Then why did every mag that reviewed the DVX state that it was the same motor and chassis as the Z400?
Arctic Cat uses the same Suzuki motors that Suzuki uses, they don't have Suzuki build anything special.
Posted by: JayBR
Let me guess, you own a Suzuki?, Check ATV Sport or Dirtwheels. I'm not one of those guys that believes everything in the mags, but I do know that AC uses Suzuki motors that are the same motors that Suzuki uses. AC doesn't always get the most recent updates to the motors but thier no more than a year behind.
Why wouldn't Suzuki sell their motors? That way they get paid for every AC built too.
Posted by: JayBR
Oh, and by the way peekzsz,
The new AC 650 uses a Prarie motor
the AC 500 uses a Vinson motor
etc, etc, etc
Posted by: JayBR
I wasn't trying to piss anyone off or be a smart a$$, just stating the fact that the motors are the same.
Posted by: garyc660R
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Originally posted by: Syrupdawg
My friend has a KFX400 and we clocked it beside his truck and it ran 81 mph. It is stock and everythang. Is his special or something because that is what it ran. By wat yall are saying it is much slower than that. The speedometer on his truck is exact because it is a brand new vehicle.
LMAO! I love those posts like that. The best one was when this kids dad ran beside his son too see how fast the boys quad was.....in a truck on asphalt.
Posted by: modquad
GPS or a calibrated radar gun, these are the accurate, and SAFE forms of determining speeds. The DVX is by far the nicest version of the 400. Arctic Cat should be very proud of a quad which is this sweet.
People, please stop being stupid and running cars against quads on the highway. Use your brain today, so you can still be around to ride tomorrow.
Posted by: juggalo
yes they are the exact same motors. they both come from the same factory, use all the same parts and specs, they are the same chasis too.
Posted by: Corpsie
Posted by: Corpsie
DVX32,
JensUK and I both work(ed) for/with the auto industry. We have a better idea of how things really are than you. You don't even know much about engines, you just like to ride.
Posted by: Corpsie
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Originally posted by: DVX32
....and corpsie i like the way you twisted what i said about not knowing much about engines to make me look stupid...your right i dont know much about cars, but i bet before you worked for the "auto industry" you would have assumed that a brand new vehicle's speedometer would be fairly accurate....and i know the vehicle i was running with was very close...my friend is very into his car and has the best of everything in it...all the guages in his car were calibrated by professionals...now somebody please argue with me and tell me i'm wrong cuz you people are really fun to laugh at
I just used your words to show the inconsistency in your arguments/comments
Professionals working with the same junk speed ecoder will still get the same just junk results when the vehicle is at high speeds.
I'm not sure why you're laughing either.
Posted by: maddog56
sorry, stock kawisukicat wont do 81 w/o major gearing changes. The comments on the spedometers are correct, friend of mine works at a car dealership. we had 2 brand new vehicles out for a test, one was at 52 mph, the other read 56 side by side. dv32, your bike may go 81 now, but it might still be a stretch.
Posted by: maddog56
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Originally posted by: Sniclefritz4
well ------excuse me! i didn't test it on -------asphult OR TAR!!
Don't get your panties all in a bunch. If your quad ran faster, tell us about it. Don't type obscenities on the internet and be a dink. Was it stock, stock gearing and tires, what surface, what method of speed measurement, how did you calibrate the instrument, did you use 2 or more to get more reliable readings, how many passes did you make, etc.
Edit: For the benifit of the mods and all onlookers.
Posted by: LTZ
Not callin' anyone a liar but I think Bartletts #'s are pretty accurate. I know a TrailTech speedo ain't the most accurate way to check but last time out, in loose dirt with stock tires and 13 tooth front sprocket I ran 65 and change. I don't know how far it was but it was a pretty good distance. If I would have kept going I may have got another mph or two but not much more.
Actually, if I leaned forward on the tank and thought about being on a Raptor(or Warrior 660) I probably could have got 90+, at least that's what the Warrior, errr Raptor owners would tell ya!img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
Posted by: Christoblue
yes the dvx is the same as the z the only difference is the plastic, seat, and the headlight. I know because I own a dvx.
Posted by: Christoblue
I've had it for a month now and I like it alot. I think it looks better than the z400.
Posted by: Christoblue
I don't know how fast it is I just barely finished breaking it in and haven't run it in top gear very much.
Posted by: Christoblue
Hozed is right the msrp is 5799
Posted by: Sniclefritz4
ok, ok, sorry for gettin pissy(bad day)
i had it all stock, it was right after i broke it in. i used a gps. it was on a gravel road
Posted by: peteyz24
No your right peekzsz suzuki wouldnt mass produce and engine so another company could build the same quad. Suzuki actually owns about 25% of the Acrtic Cat company. This is why all of there New Sno Mos and most of there atvs have suzy engines
not trying to piss anyone off here, just stating the facts
Posted by: JensUK
Just because a truck is new doesn't mean the speedometer is exact.
I would drive along a freeway at a constant speed and time myself against some mile markers to be sure. (For one mile, divide 3600 by your speed to see how long it should take, eg, 60 mph => 60 secs, 80 mph => 45 seconds, 120 mph = 30 seconds. Or to go backwards, divide 3600 by your time, eg 3600 seconds => 1 mph, 50 seconds = 72 mph, etc.)
Posted by: JensUK
The easiest way to solve this is to just time the truck on the freeway. Or break out the GPS.
BTW, Car and Driver did an article on speedometer variation. Manufacturers are required to overstate the speed. On a 120 mph speedometer, the speedometer can be off by almost 5 mph above 55 mph. There's a lot of variability when vehicles are made, so I wouldn't accept a speedometer reading as absolute truth.
Also, I had a BRAND NEW MOTORCYCLE and it was off by nearly 10 mph. And my current car is optimistic by a mph or so. Keeps me out of tickets, so I don't mind much.
Posted by: JensUK
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Originally posted by: DVX32
alright i got the list of upgrades my dvx has...it is piped yes, the FRONT sprocket's teeth were raised, and the engine was customely bored to a 440...also the clutch, transmition, and ignition are all "upgraded" or whatever
I just can't figure out why DVX32 is supporting Syrupdawg's claim of an 81 mph stock KFX400, when that would mean the couple grand DVX32 dropped to get the 440 kit, upgraded clutch, transmission, and ignition was all a big waste because any "good" Z/KFX/DVX will just run 81 mph right out of the box.
Posted by: Hozed
at the drags up here i saw a stock Z with wheelie bars go 64 mph... he was about maxed out.... it was in 1/8 mile
Posted by: Hozed
5800$ up here i think... around there.
Posted by: Hozed
as always.... lol
Posted by: Hozed
lol.. kid i am sorry but i am calling BS on this one. your dvx isnt faster than a raptor, predator, banshee, yfz450, trx450, or a ds650.
i raced my buddies piped z-400 on my stock pred and handed him his a$$ every time, and i dont go 80.
Posted by: Hozed
R O F L
ok usually i am just like you... but a z400 doesnt compared to any bigger bore quad when it comes to drag races.. i had him beat by about 5-6 lenghs in 300 feet while he was stock.. and 3-4 with a pipe.. not exactly an ass handing i supose but i still showed him who was boss.
when we raced the longer drags.. like 600 feet.. he was a ways behind.. my pred just pulled harder on top than his z.
you have already proven yourself a moron buy past posts.. name some stuff your dvx has on it.. i am VERY interested to find out... seems odd that the only thing that you know your dad did was changed the sprocket.. you would think you would notice a pipe
did he change the front or rear... oh.. and so you arent confused.. the front sprocket is the much smaller one by the engine.. the rear is near the axel... just didnt want you facin it the wrong way and gettin confused...
Posted by: zipzap
If both quads are stock what quad will go faster the dvx400 or the 400ex? and how fast does the dvx400 go?
Posted by: peekzsz
NOOOOO!!!! IT'S NOT THE SAME ENGINE....IM NOT SURE ABOUT THE CHASSIS I NEVER HEARED ABOUT THAT...BUT THEY ARENT THE SAME ENGINE...YES SUZUKI MAKES THE ENGINE FOR ARCTIC CAT BUT THEY FOLLOW ARCTIC CATS PLANS FOR THE ENGINE...SO THAT DOES NOT EQUAL THE SAME PERFORMANCE BETWEEN THEM....WHY SUZUKI JUST SELL MASS LOADS OF THEIR ENGINES SO ANOTHER COMPANY COULD MASS SELL THEIR ATVS WITH THE SAME ENGINE THINK ABOUT THAT...
Posted by: peekzsz
YA BUT ITS DIFFERENT PLANS...PROBABLY THE SAME PARTS BUT DIFFERETN PLANS....WHAT MAGAZINES?
Posted by: peekzsz
NO I OWN AN ARCTIC CAT
Posted by: peekzsz
OH AND BY THE WAYYOU DONT HAVE TO BE SMART, JUST BECAUSE I DONT KNOW ALOT ABOUT WHO MAKES WHAT DOESNT MEAN I CANT HAVE AN OPINION WITH OTHERS PEOPLE AROUND ME
Posted by: peekzsz
well thanks atleast i have someone with me cause everyone was against me here
Posted by: peekzsz
do you like the DVX because i was thinking about selling my 250 and getting the DVX
Posted by: peekzsz
how fast would you say it goes?
Posted by: peekzsz
how much is it?
Posted by: peekzsz
whats your problem man...just because someone has a question doesn't mean you should hate them about it...the main reason why i wanna know is because i wanted to know if i could get z400 parts for the dvx now i know i can
Posted by: peekzsz
hahaha.... yea yea, i wish i was that lucky
Posted by: motohead303
I am a Cat and Suzuki dealer. We sell tons of LTZs/DVX. The parts in the DVX engine are exactly the same. 100 % excatly. Stock gearing on pavement on radar a LTZ will run 68mph .
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: JayBR
Oh, and by the way peekzsz,
The new AC 650 uses a Prarie motor
the AC 500 uses a Vinson motor
etc, etc, etc
The 500 uses the Suzuki motor, but the new Arctic Cat 650 H-1 is an Arctic Cat designed and built motor. The older 650 V-2 engine is the Kawasaki engine.
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: peteyz24
No your right peekzsz suzuki wouldnt mass produce and engine so another company could build the same quad. Suzuki actually owns about 25% of the Acrtic Cat company. This is why all of there New Sno Mos and most of there atvs have suzy engines
not trying to piss anyone off here, just stating the facts
Actually Suzuki owned 34% of Arctic Cat.
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: BrocksZ
80 mph!!!!!!! BA HAH HAH HAH Yeah right. Tell your friend to get his speedometer calloborated.
Or take it off KPH and switch to MPH.
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: yellowrider250ex
how fast would you say it goes?
my kfx runs 75
So what is your source for this infomation? The seat of your pants, Speedo in another vehicle, GPS, what? Your statement doesn't make it so.
You guys seem to be unaware that top spped is a function of available horsepower, traction, drag and weight. And you haven't a clue of the kind of increases in Horsepower it takes to get these kinds of speeds.
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: yellowrider250ex
just the fact that this four wheeler has been out since 03 and i have many dirt wheels test with the mods i have and it comes out the same speed every time thats my source.
Let me get this straight; some pros, mod some factory fresh machines and then some more pros ride them, means that your mods and your abilities got the same results? Gee, you have a really fantasy world going there. You sound just like the morons back in the 60s who's street machines were as quick and fast as the factory supported Super Stockers. I used to love those guys. Their money fit real well in my pocket after my little hot rod car that was a 1/2 second slower than their real fast cars stomped them big time.
Posted by: Syrupdawg
My friend has a KFX400 and we clocked it beside his truck and it ran 81 mph. It is stock and everythang. Is his special or something because that is what it ran. By wat yall are saying it is much slower than that. The speedometer on his truck is exact because it is a brand new vehicle.
Posted by: Syrupdawg
That is wat it ran, watever some of yall have to say. Were u there? No alright then. The speedometer might be off a little maybe 5 at the most. I am not getting mad or nothing Im just saying.
Posted by: MaddMaxx
Just to prop up motohead a bit here - I can attest to the fact that it's 100% the same except for bodywork and the location of the reverse swich. I just 2 weeks ago pretty much completely dis-assembled my DVX and installed all the Yosh stuff for the Z400. It all bolts right up including the internal engine stuff.
Posted by: BrocksZ
80 mph!!!!!!! BA HAH HAH HAH Yeah right. Tell your friend to get his speedometer calloborated.
Posted by: BrocksZ
Hey corpsies, I was checkin out your site. You got some really good stuff on there. Good Info
Posted by: DVX32
SAME EXACT QUAD, just different plastics...i know this for a FACT...dad works for atv dealer. own a DVX also...top speed close to 80..i was riding next to my friends car and he hit cruise at 80 and thats where i was topping out...belive it or not i dont care just dont give me sh it cuz i'm not some jack@ss trying to lie
Posted by: DVX32
hey just back off a little bit...i'm sorry i thought i mentioned that it isnt stock...i dont know anything about engines...my father did the upgrades and i have no idea what they were i know it cost a couple grand out of my pocket...the only thing i know for sure is that he raised the teeth in the sprocket for a higher top speed....sorry to piss you peeps off but i forgot to say it wasnt stock....hopefully this is cleared up now
Posted by: DVX32
and by the way KID i'm callin BS on your stock pred beating a piped Z...when my dvx was stock i raced a pred and it just BARELY beat me.....if you "handed the kids ass to him" you werent stock
Posted by: DVX32
alright i got the list of upgrades my dvx has...it is piped yes, the FRONT sprocket's teeth were raised, and the engine was customely bored to a 440...also the clutch, transmition, and ignition are all "upgraded" or whatever....and yea i'm SORRY i dont know a bunch of stuff about engines, i just like to ride...and i just plain dont like anything about polaris, i dont care if they are faster or how much better they are, i just dont like polaris, never have, never will
Posted by: DVX32
jens...i'm not trying to start nothin, but think about it...BRAND NEW TRUCK, if the speedo is that off....something is going wrong with our trucks these days...now yes there is a chance it could be off, but the chances of it being correct are ALOT higher
Posted by: DVX32
yea your right modquad it is stupid to run on the highway...but on a sucluded backroad the cheapest easiest way to find a speed is to run next to a vehicle with a speedometer...not everyone is gonna waste money on a radar gun when they are just curious to see how fast they can go....and corpsie i like the way you twisted what i said about not knowing much about engines to make me look stupid...your right i dont know much about cars, but i bet before you worked for the "auto industry" you would have assumed that a brand new vehicle's speedometer would be fairly accurate....and i know the vehicle i was running with was very close...my friend is very into his car and has the best of everything in it...all the guages in his car were calibrated by professionals...now somebody please argue with me and tell me i'm wrong cuz you people are really fun to laugh at
Posted by: DVX32
you do have a good point jens...yes it is hard for even me to belive that a stock dvx did 81....but i really didnt raise that many teeth...but i dont know how much a couple teeth would help....and i dont know what helps the top speed... i dont know if its just the sprocket that gives you the higher top speed, i really dont know so i cant say too much...and i'm not defending what syrupdawg said, but i'm not gonna call him a lier either cuz its possible
Posted by: DVX32
i'm not bashing but i do have a question....how much of a run did they have to get up to that speed...is that completely topped out, or like 1000 feet or something?.....lol i like the pinto comment, me and my other friend always call his car a pinto, weird coincidence....actually he has a dodge stealth though
Posted by: yellowrider250ex
how fast would you say it goes?
my kfx runs 75
Posted by: yellowrider250ex
just the fact that this four wheeler has been out since 03 and i have many dirt wheels test with the mods i have and it comes out the same speed every time thats my source.
Posted by: rancher400
yall can really say wut u wont, i have a dvx 400 tony stewart edition, and yes for a fact, i no it will run 75 WITHOUT HAVIN to use a speedometer, u go test one out. itll suprise you alot.
rancher AT 400- itp 26 mudlite kit, 2 inch lift, warn winch/bumper
dvx400- exhaust
Posted by: rancher400
o yea, my rancher 400 will 54 stock, n my next door neighbor has a 2005 rincon with itp holeshot ATR's, itll run 62 stock, n my dvx will kill then both. i no for a fact it will go 70.....no doubt
Posted by: ZukiZ400
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Originally posted by: peekzsz
OH AND BY THE WAYYOU DONT HAVE TO BE SMART, JUST BECAUSE I DONT KNOW ALOT ABOUT WHO MAKES WHAT DOESNT MEAN I CANT HAVE AN OPINION WITH OTHERS PEOPLE AROUND ME
alright i would understand that for a dif topic, but this is not an opinion answer, it is right and wrong
i own suzuki, friend owns ac, right on the frame it says, "manufactured by Suzuki Motor Corporation"
they run neck and neck w/ eachother, jus IMO suzuki is more comfortable
