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Posted by: minehunter
This past weekend was the first time since I changed the main jet in my 500 auto that I went far enough to see what effect it had on miledge. I went an incredible 82 miles and never hit reserve. When I filled it up, it only took 3.3 gallons. Most of the riding was done above 6000 feet and on abandoned logging roads, with some ATV trails thrown in. My witnesses rode Polaris, Honda and Yamaha. I only used 1 tenth of a gallon more than the SP500. The Hondas and Yamaha had all hit reserve.
Posted by: minehunter
The changes that I have made are as follows. I now use synthetic oil, I have changed the main jet in the carburator to the next size smaller than the one that came with it. I can't remember the number, but I believe I went to either a 140 or a 142.
I have also heard of a clutch kit that will soon be available for the 500 autos. It's supposed to be about $50.oo and it improves the low end even more and increases initial acceleration.
I have also been told by The fine folks at AC that if you remove the driven pulley sheaves and have .030 milled off the center portion that it will improve miledge, top end and power throughout the total RPM range. By milling the sheaves you allow them to get closer together and that increases the diameter of the pulley while traveling. It also gives you a higher engine RPM on the low end.
Posted by: minehunter
I think I forgot to mention this in my earlier post. The Clutch kit is made by some outfit in Cedar City Utah. Also High Lifter now has a pipe kit for the 500. It's supposed to be really loud and kind of obnoxious.
I checked it out and the jet I installed was a 140.
Posted by: Tcat
Minehunter,
Like Cowboy asked, could you elaborate a little on the changes you made. I could definately use some improvement with gas consumption. Thanks!
Posted by: cowboy
First off, I don't like this new design stuff on the forum. Either it's just late and I'm tired as hell, or this is just too darned confusing!
Anyway, Minehunter-I know you're probably tired of me asking this about the carbs, but here we go again. I never got the chance to work on mine like I had hoped while up at my property. Too much other work needed to be done, never had time to work with the 'Cat. Anyway, which main jet did you swap? I guess I should say what size? I think you said it was a 145 stock main, then you dropped to a 142, is that right? Where did you buy it, and how much? From what I remember it wasn't that expensive, and not near as much as the dyno jet kit, is that right? The reason I ask is I just damn near ran out of gas while getting "misguided" the other day. I think I had 55 miles on the main tank, then hit around 90 or so before it started sputtering like it was going to give up the go entirely, needed to be re-filled. I don't think I was entirely full, but still, if you can get 82 on the main before reserve, that is outstanding! Granted, under heavy loads and work, it will drop some, but that's nearly the same as what I got on almost a full tank! Also, did it seem to "perk" the machine up much, like somebody mentioned the other day (JKB???) about backing the adjustment screw down from 2 turns to 1 7/8?
Sorry, just had to try that new little emotion thing there, see what happens. Anyway, thanks once again for the info, glad to hear it worked so well for you.
Mike
Posted by: cowboy
Thanks for the info, I'm HOPING to get down to my dealer this coming weekend, see if he's got one I can swap for. Do you happen to know who makes this clutch kit, or where it can be purchased? With the warranty no longer an issue and for the relatively cheap price ($50!), that sounds like it could be a good investment. Also, if you happen to do that milling procedure, please let me know the results, that sounds great, and I don't imagine it would cost that much either, if you know the right machinists.
Anyway, sorry to bother you with so many questions, I do appreciate all your new findings-thanks for the help!
Mike
-And, with regards to my previous comments about the new forum-scrap that. After spending a little time this morning, while it is taking a little time to figure some things out, it is definately much nicer this way. Nice job DBeck, looks good!
Posted by: cowboy
Hey Jim, good to see you back in here. I'd been meaning to send you a note about that, but seem to have lost your email address. I was hoping to still come up that way and go riding with you, scout out the elk situations a bit. Unfortunately, I can't give you an exact date right now, I'm in the middle of moving back home from school. Also working on finding a job as well, should find out about that early next week I think. I'll be sure to let you know as soon as I can find a weekend to head up that way, I think it would be a good idea to find out where and what the elk are up too-espcially for our good old boys down in Texas! heh heh heh. I'm still hoping that hunting trip works out, my partner is excited about going as well-just hope the new job doesn't get in the way-keep your fingers crossed!
As for my dealer, do you mean my own dealer, or the one I was referring to up in Omak, that was so great to me with the part I lost? My dealer is actually down in Hermiston, Oregon-High Desert Marine. It's about 30 miles from my place in the Tri-Cities, and Dave is a great guy. Always takes good care of me, my 'Cat whenever I go down that way. Gives all parts and stuff to me for cost, helps out whenever he can with whatever he can. I'm hoping he won't be too busy this weekend, maybe I can talk him into that jet swap for me! They do a lot with boats too though, so usually weekends are a bad time. Oh well, we'll see what happens. The other dealer I had so much good luck with was up in Omak, which is roughly 45 minutes south of the Canadian border. Ever hear of the famous Omak Stampede? That's the place. It's called Lay's Arctic Cat and Marine I believe.
Well, I gotta get back to work now or I'll never do it-I hate moving! Anyway, I'll get back to you as soon as I can find out a for sure date for exploring up there. Take care, we'll talk to you later!
Mike
Posted by: cowboy
Jim, I'm sorry, I thought you lived up in St. Maries! Yeah, I do know of a dealer in Moscow who has helped me a couple times. If you head out main street, like you're going to Lewiston, you'll come to that brand new intersection thing. I think you'll have to weave around to the right the way it's set up now, then go up a hill, past the A&W on the right. As you drop down the other side of the hill, the 'Cat dealer will be on your right hand side, either just across, or very near the John Deere dealer which is on the left. He's right next to his house and the parking area is not that big, so if you don't look close, you'll drive right on by.
Anyway, last time I was there, he let me borrow a few of his tools while I was swapping my spring spacers the last time. He's a pretty nice guy, helped me out with a couple other things and didn't bother to charge me for his time. Sold me one part at cost-I think for my airbox, but I can't remember for sure now what it was. I think it's called Dale's Boat and Marine if I remember right, but will have to go check for sure. Tell you what though, I'm heading to Moscow here in about a half hour or so, I'll just stop in and buy the jet from him if he's got it, find out exactly what the name and address of the place is, then get back to you.
I'll be sure to let you know when I get a chance to head up that way to go riding, looking forward to it! Best of luck,
Aczr2K:
Thanks for the info-damn, 15 mph top end gain! Man, that might be something Andy could look into, as that's one of the main things he liked about the SP back when he was shopping. A 15mph increase with the milling should put the 'Cat at or above the SP in terms of speed!
Mike
Posted by: ttaylor
That is cool. I hope that once I get my 400 broke I can improve my gas mileage. right now I will just leave it running rich. I went 42 miles over the weekend all on dirt roads and when I was putting it away it started sputtering. I switched to reserve and finished putting it away.
Posted by: dakotart
Cowboy and Idahocatman,
I still want to go but the one thing I feared happened. I got a promotion to head football and basketball coach. I get paid $100 more a year to be the one taking all the blame for when things wrong. I'm excited but I really didn't want the job. It is going to be tough. On top of everything else I bought a house and have decided to get maried in December so I have like $20 to my name right now. I really appreciate the thought of inviting us TEXANS up there to meet and hunt with you guys. You guys are welcome to come to Texas and hunt with me anytime. I'll strap you on to a 200 lb wild pig or on to a whitetail in thick cover. Good luck to you guys and your hunt. Please no pictures, it will make me jealous! Thanks again.
Posted by: IDAHOCATMAN
hats great minehunter,one of these days I'm gunna try it. Hey cowboy! where's your dealer down there and when you gunna come up this way.
Jim
Posted by: IDAHOCATMAN
Mike; Im retired so time or days don't mean jack squat to me.I do all of my shopping in Moscow, thought there may be a dealer in Pullman, that way I don't have to go to St. Maries. Oh well. C YA.
Jim
Posted by: IDAHOCATMAN
TNX Cowboy,that would be great. I live thirty miles so. of ST.M. Forty four no. of Moscow in the jing weeds. Do you know where no. so. ski bowl is? I'm straight across the valley, about the same elevation.
Jim
Posted by: IDAHOCATMAN
Tnx for letting us know RT. Anyone else gunna bail out? Was very much looking forward to meeting ya'll.Maybe next year.
Jim
Posted by: Aczr2k
You can have your clutches machined by TNT Motorsports in Greenbush, MN. They are around 30 miles north of the factory, don't know what they charge. I heard it would increase top end around 15 mph?? Aczr2k
