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Posted by: BONER
Don't get that demo model, I would not pay that much for an unused 2000 model when a 2001 is that cheap. The 2000 doesn't have alot of features/upgrades that the 2001 does.
If you can talk your dealer down to 5500 for the 500 I would get it. The extra power(30.6 ft lbs at 3500 rpms), 2wd feature, larger racks, better winch mount(that pipe on the 500 model gives you a good bit more room to mount a winch), studier front bumper(side extensions and the pipe add to that), and did I mention the power???
A 400 will do the job that you ask it to, but the 500 will do the larger harder jobs easier and faster. You will also love the 2wd feature for when you are just riding around and have no need for 4wd.
Posted by: BONER
The diffecnces between the 2001 and 2000 are hard to say since some early 2000 models had less features than the late 2001 models. Here are the differences most likly to have come:
[b]Different color wheels [/b] (black on the 2001)
[b]Different graphic's[/b]
[b]2wd/4wd on the 2001 only[/b]
[b]More ground clearance on the 2001[/b] (changed the rear axle)
[b]Better brakes on the 2001[/b] (steel resivor on the 2001, plastic on the older ones)
[b]Hydralic foot brake[/b] (old one was a cable activated one that sucked so bad I removed mine)
[b]Better Boot guards on the 2001[/b]
[b]Slighly different rack designs[/b]
[b]Differnt carbs[/b]
[b]Larger gas tank on the 2001[/b]
[b]Better gas guage on the 2001[/b]
And maybe more, not sure.
Posted by: Tim1
At one time a 350 was considered a powerful work horse.My cousin and friend own a 400 Foreman and a Kodiak 400.I can't imagine a job out there that those quads would have a hard time with.Get the 400 and put the extra moeny towards your future tire change and insurance.
Posted by: cowboy
RJS:
I don't know what the HP rating is, but the torque for the 500 is rated at 31 ft/lbs. (actually 31.6) but not sure where that is measured at. What exactly do you plan to do with the machine? That would have an effect on which you would be better off with.
As for differences, the 400 is actually a 371cc while the 500 is a 493cc machine. There is only a 20 lbs. dry weight difference between the two, with the 400 weighing in at 625 lbs., with the 500 coming in at 645. Overall height, wheelbase and width is the same, while the 500 is 1" longer in overall length. The 400 comes with 8" wide up front, while the 500 uses the same 25x10x12's all the way around. Everything else is the same, with the exception of the 500 having selectable 2/4wd. This in my opinion is a huge asset to have. I can't tell you how often I run back and forth between 2 and 4 wheel drive.
If you're just running trails, not much else, I'm sure the 400 would be great. But, if you want to do heavier work, I'd go with the 500. Granted, the 400 should do it's share of work as well, but as the old saying goes "there's no replacement for displacement".
Anyway, hope that helps,
Best of luck,
Mike
Posted by: StitchZR2
I would not get the demo. Larsons cycle has them for $5595 for the shift and 5799 for the auto. Look around some dealer ships will be able to come down a little bit. I was talking to a sales man up at larsons and he said that he might be able to go down to $5499 which is a very good deal for a 01' 500
Posted by: StitchZR2
Hey i can't find the web site for Junction Sales and Service could you please tell me what it is
Thanks
Posted by: StitchZR2
Hey i can't find the web site for Junction Sales and Service could you please tell me what it is
Thanks
Posted by: lrichard
Well unless that 2000 500 has extras like better tires, and winch then I don't think its worth $5450.00 when you can buy a brand new one with no miles for $5899.00.
I will never be satisfied with anything smaller than a 500 now that I have owned the 500. I have used all its power pulling a very heavy meat trailer in heavy mud situations on an upgrade. Sure was glad I went with the 500 after that pull.
Before that situation I never thought I would have ever used or needed that much torque. Maybe you never will, but maybe you will find yourself in that kind of situation down the road someday.
Good luck on your choice, by the way you are looking at the right machines as far as I am concerned.
Posted by: girthyguy
hey rjs
if you dont mind me asking how much is your dealer asking for the 500
matty
Posted by: girthyguy
The reason I was asking, Is I was at our local cat shop the other day. They had a new auto 500 for the same price $5899. Im sure they would come down in price too. I know I got my manuel from them for $5300 and I added the winch for $69. That was a year and half ago. But they seem the cheapest dealer around that I have found. Im not sure what they all have in stock. The name of the dealer is Shawano Power Sports. There number is(715)526-5345. I would give them a call. If it would save you a couple of hundred dollars it would be worth your drive. I see your from twin lakes, isnt that like 10 min from Eagle R. Good luck
matty
Posted by: rjs
I just got back from my cat dealer. I was looking at the CAT 500 and the 400. Both in manual. They look the same. Only real diff appears to be the size of the engines. The dealer has no idea of HP or torque ratings on these machines. Does anyone know what the are? Is the $1,000 differance in price really worth it?
Posted by: rjs
I will use it mostly for planting wildlife food plots at mycabin in the UP of michigan. I expect the 400 to produce less hp and torque than the 500. But is it enough less to demand $1000 for it. Suppose torque is withih 4 ft pds. is $250 per ft pd worth it? This is the reason why i would like to get hp and torque for both. Speed is not an issue with me, selectable 2wd 4wd don't see the need. Tires, every one changes them anyway, dealers probably should sell atv sans tires and let the owner pick the best tire for their use.
Posted by: rjs
dealer is asking $5899 for the 500
Posted by: rjs
thanks, i will probably give them a call. I just found a left over 2000 500 at a dealer in il. has 450 miles on it. he is asking $5450. seems high to me for a 2000 "Demo" machine. Is it?
Posted by: rjs
Dealer does not seem to want to deal on the 2001. I think i can get to 2000 for $5000 OTD. What features have changed? to my novice eye the machines look identical. What is Changed?
Posted by: twelvegaugepump
Hey rjs, I got my 2001 AC 400 from Junction Sales and Service in Suring, WI (its actually just outside of Mountain). They had the best price on 4 wheelers in the entire Fox Cities and Green Bay area. They may be worth taking a look at for prices. It really would not be that far of a drive for you. They have a web site, look them up. Good luck.
Posted by: dakotart
RJS,
I have a 2001 500 manual and my dad has a 2001 400. On our Point of Origin Papers(emissions stuff) here in Texas it lists the engines output in HP at 22 for the 400 and 29 for the 500. I love them both! They can do anything. One of my friends has a polaris and I can't get him off of my 500 when we going riding together. He sold his truck to get an artic cat 500 and now I have to drag his polaris with my cat in my truck untill he gets his 500 in! If you can swing it get the 500. I like my dad's 400 but I love the 500. The 2wd/4wd feature is great. Large racks, hi/lo tranny, and brute torque make the 500 really work. We've got close to 700 acres down here and I can't get it stuck in any of the mud holes and even my stock tank is no match for either of our cats. Good luck in picking.
