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Posted by: minehunter
messed up, duplicate
Posted by: minehunter
If Alabama doesn't require any type of OHV registration that could be why you had to get a permit. If your machine has an ORV sticker from another state it has to be recognised by the state you're in, just like the plates on your car or truck.
Posted by: minehunter
Most states honor other states stickers for up to 30 days continous. Anything over 30 requires a sticker from that state.
Posted by: Expeditioneer
Unless Colorado has changed their mind, you'll need a permit, no matter what state you are from and no matter what sticker your state has. Last year I was met in St. Elmo by some Nat. Forest Service reps and they wanted to see my permit, which I had. I believe the permit cost me $15. The National Forest Service is a prisoner of the logging companies. All fees paid by us riders are just used to hire more people to charge for "day use", as we found out in Imogene Pass. The loggers do much more damage to the environment than any 2 or 4 wheelers could possibly do. Log skidders remove the topsoil and cause enormous ruts. Sorry for the rant, but the NFS isn't on our side. They will readily close trails for ATV's but allow logging trucks and equipment in the same area. We are just a nuisance to them.
Posted by: Expeditioneer
My riding buddy warned me last year that I needed a permit to ride. I met him and he took me to a motorcycle/quad shop in Colorado Springs, where I purchased my sticker. Last year was the first year for it. When the National Forest Service reps approached me, they saw my sticker. I complained about it; why is the US National Forest Service enforcing a Colorado State Law.....where they do not have jurisdiction. They said that the US Forest Service gets some portion of the fee, so they *did* have jurisdiction. I've another friend in Ouray, CO who worked for the Forest Service during last summer. He said they hadn't been writing tickets, but were checking for the stickers, and were enforcing the "Day Use" fees for the Imogene Pass Road. Maybe they've dropped the sticker requirement this year, but I still have the sticker on my quad and had thought it was a forever policy to have annual stickers. 'Course, I won't be riding in CO this year......too many fires.
Posted by: tprender
We are planning a trip to Col the 2nd week in July. Last year we rode North of Divide and around Taylor Lake. Is there another place to ride out there close to those 2 area that will be about the same type of riding? We will be riding Raptors and 400EX's on the trip.
Posted by: tprender
Thanks for the info. Tell me more about this Grand Junction area, I have not heard about it. If the Divide area is closed, we will need someplace else to ride during the week that we are there (Col).
If I don't get back to you today, I will be out of town Thursday to Sun. Have to go to Fort Dodge for the TT race. Have to work it.
Posted by: tprender
Thanks for the info again. I was told this past weekend about going to Pitkin and the St. Elmo area. What can you tell me about these places? Also, do we need tag or some type of permits to ride next week? We have tags from our state, is that good enought or do we need to get a vistor's permit and where?
Posted by: tprender
Just got back from the 8 day trip to ride in Col. and had a great time except for the no fire rule, but could see the reason for it. We did ride the Pitkin, St Elmo, Tin cup arear for 2 days, then when to the Peach Vally area for 1 day of riding(very hot), 2 more days of riding at the Green Mountain area, and then ended up at Flat top for 2 more days. Each area was great, was asked at the St. Elmo area by the forest service for tags and checked for spark arresters, got in trouble for riding to fast over Tin cup pass by him. At the flat Top area got to see a fire and ride into some area that had burned a weeke or more before. Had a great time and will plann on coming back again next year. In the 7 days of riding, the speedo put on 421 miles on my 400EX. On day at Flat top did 102 miles in 2 trips that day.
Posted by: tmm2good
Check out this link, they have a neat trail locator on there.
COHVCO
Posted by: tmm2good
As long as your ATV is resgistered in your home state and has some kind of official sticker on it, you are ok. no need to get any tempy registation here.
Posted by: tmm2good
Expeditioneer, I am curious about these permits that you refer to. I have never heard of such a thing here. Do you have any more info as to what the permit actually was.?
Posted by: chavychav
Wolley is right on that one. The entire area around Divide is closed presently to all activities. Taylor Resevoir is in the Gunnison National Park and may not be closed but I wouldn't count on it.
If you don't mind going a bit further East, Grand Junction is a sure bet and offers some great riding for sport quads. different than the mountain style of terrain you rode last year, but well worth the couple extra hours of driving.
It has been bad for fires out here and I know its better to be safe than sorry but they are closing places left and right.
Good luck, post if you decide where to go.
Posted by: chavychav
They are just now letting famlies back into the area(Divide) but I don't see them opening up the area for recreational use anytime soon. Good chance the area you rode in had the Hayman fire go right through it, 137,000 acres and counting.
Anyways, Grand Junction is probably 4 hours or so from Denver, due West on I-70. Plenty of lodging and a few bike shops for any mechanical needs. There is just massive terrain in the area that is for off-highway vehicle use. One of the areas I believe is called Grand Valley and is probably 150,000+ acres of open spaces, hill climbs, trail riding through valleys, and a few "back yard" style of tracks. It can be seen from I-70 to the North as you get in closer to town. Lots of 4WD vehicles but a HUGE area so it's never a problem. Almost desert like without the dunes- mostly hard pack w/ rolling hills. It does get into the 90's and even 100's at times but fires will never close this place, basically nothing to burn.I think the elevation is about 6000 feet. And it's free!
A phone number that still may be good that could tell you more than I ever could is (303) 243-6561. If it is still good it's the number of the local Recreational Management Area (RMA) office.
Unfortunately I live only about a half hour from Divide and have to travel cross-state for any good riding because of these fires. I'm trying to get a trip together myself w/ a few friends for there so keep me posted if you decide to go,probably just a weekend but maybe times will work out the same.
Hope this helps,
Chavychav
Posted by: chavychav
Pitkin and St. Elmo are within probably 20 miles of Taylor Reservoir, so probably similar riding as you're last trip. I had 4WD into Grizzly lake straight south of St. Elmo years ago but I don't believe it is passable by quad.
As far as permits I'm not sure but I do think you're supposed to have something other than your own states. I know I've heard something being said on this subject before but didn't pay much attention to it at the time because it wasn't an issue for me.(I've been out of the off-road scene for a couple years now and am just getting going again). Depending on your route out here if you're going to that area, you will probably go through either Colorado Springs or Pueblo. I think permits can be purchased at most motorcycle shops and I would try Apex Sports #1-800-748-1799 in the Springs and Paradise Motorsports #1-800-695-6781 in Pueblo. They should be of more help and probably know about areas that are still open.
Posted by: dusty1
I have twelve friends who just got back from a week of riding in the Pitkin area. They had a great time. They stayed at the Quartz Creek Lodge. Phone 970-641-6174. You can probably call the folks at the lodge and ask them about the trails in the area. You also can probably go to the Pitkin, Colorado web page to get information. "www.pitkincolorado.com".
Ted
Posted by: Wolley
Double check any areas you want to ride before you leave. They are closing ATV trails faster than they can be listed due to fire danger. Some Forests are also being closed for any activity for the same reason.
Posted by: Wolley
<< Unless Colorado has changed their mind, you'll need a permit, no matter what state you are from and no matter what sticker your state has. Last year I was met in St. Elmo by some Nat. Forest Service reps and they wanted to see my permit, which I had. I believe the permit cost me $15. The National Forest Service is a prisoner of the logging companies. All fees paid by us riders are just used to hire more people to charge for "day use", as we found out in Imogene Pass. The loggers do much more damage to the environment than any 2 or 4 wheelers could possibly do. Log skidders remove the topsoil and cause enormous ruts. Sorry for the rant, but the NFS isn't on our side. They will readily close trails for ATV's but allow logging trucks and equipment in the same area. We are just a nuisance to them. >>
Nope, all your quad has to be is registered in your home state. Colorado won't require anything else. Trust me! Before they closed all of the riding areas near me we rode up there a couple of times and my New Mexico registration was fine. The one time we met up with an official he was perfectly satisfied that our license plates were attached and visible. Didn't even ask for additional paper work.
