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BIG HORN or MUDLITE XTR TIRES

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Posted by: RSeb

The Bighorns will give you a slightly better ride, but are a bit heavier. The XTRs will be better in the slop, but I have heard that they have weaker sidewalls. Both are an excellent all-around tire.

I've got about 900 miles on my XTRs and have never even had a flat.

Posted by: JeffinTD

Those three (Terra Cross, XTR, and Bighorns) are on my short list for tires, too...

I've heard the XTR's do better in mud, sand and slop, and that the Big Horns are great rocky conditions and dry loose stuff, and that the Terra Cross kind of splits the difference...

People have told me that the XTR's and the BigHorns wear like iron... How do Terra Cross tires do, wear wise?

Posted by: JeffinTD

This sounds like good info, from someone who actually owns each type.

I think I might go Bighorn, too...

Posted by: JeffinTD

I'll probably just stick with 25's on stock rims...

Posted by: JeffinTD

The Yamaha looks like a great machine, and I was on the verge of getting one instead of the Rincon. I do wish Honda would make an IRS machine with a locker, low range and power steering.

Enjoy the Yamaha, and let us know what you think of the bighorns.

You need to get busy and upload some photos yourself...

Posted by: CamoKodiak450

I too couldn't decided between the two, so I flipped a coin and got the XTR's. They ride so smooth and grip the trails like they were glued to it. They have been a great tire and have never got me stuck anywhere. I'll try the Bighorn's next time.

Posted by: DesertViper

We have Bighorns on our Rhino, and XTRs on one of our Grizzly 700s. I think the Bighorns are a little better on hard pack, and in very rocky dry terrain. The XTRs are better everywhere else. In 700 miles use we have had one flat on an XTR, which was from a big nail. We took the tire to a tire store and they put a patch inside the tire, and it was leaking again the next day. So at that point I just plugged the hole in the tire with my own tire repair kit, and it has been fine ever since. We have never had a problem with the Bighorns.

DV

Posted by: DesertViper

Here is what the 25" Terracross tires look like on a Grizzly 700.
click here

Posted by: DesertViper

They are the SS 112 wheels that are available either in the chrome finish that I have, or also in an alternating polished aluminum and black pattern. I preferred the chrome wheel with the silver SE Grizzly. The pictures absolutely do not do the wheels justice. The chrome is show quality, and should be more resistant to fine scratches that occur in polished aluminum wheels.

DV

Posted by: DesertViper

The interesting part of that article to me is that it answers the question about which is lighter, a 26" tire on a 12" wheel, or a 26" tire on a 14" wheel. The article says the 12" wheel and 26" tire is lighter.

Posted by: DesertViper

Both the Bighorn and the XTR wear like iron. I wanted to try a different set of tires on our Grizzly that has the XTRs on it, but I can't wear out the XTRs. I've even been riding it on the pavement quite a bit, but no such luck.

The rubber compound on the Terracross is much softer than the other two tires, so logic would lead me to believe they wont last as long. Ours are only a day old though, so I can't comment on that one.

Posted by: DesertViper

I paid dealer cost on the tires and wheels, so I can't really say what it was on an open forum like this. It sounds like you have been quoted a very good price from Dicks ATV though.

And speaking about protecting the rims from rock damage, ... thats why I went with 25x10R-12 tires on all four corners with my Grizzly, instead of getting the narrower 25x8R-12 front tires. I hate that grinding "thunk" sound when your wheels smack into rocks.

I just looked at the sidewalls of the XTRs we have on one Grizzly, the Terracross' we have on the other Grizzly, and the Bighorns we have on our Rhino. I wouldn't say any of them have a significant bead protection feature built into them. At least they all looked about the same in that area to me, and none of them have the thick bulletproof ridge of rubber in that area that the set of Mudzilla tires we have stacked in the corner of the garage does, or that the 37" tires on the Jeep do.

Posted by: DesertViper

I would get the Bighorns. As an example, when I race the Rhino in the local desert race series I can chose any of these sets of tires to run on the Rhino, because all three sets of wheels will fit. The next race is 20 miles south of Wendover, NV, in the middle of NOWHERE, and there is a rock behind every single bush in that area. I'm going to have the Bighorns on the Rhino when I need a dependable set of tires.

Posted by: DesertViper

I've had more time to put some miles on the three tires mentioned in this thread. For best performance in typical conditions encountered in the southwest USA I would rank these tires as follows:

1) Bighorn
2) XTR
3) Terracross

We have 800 miles on the XTRs, 500 miles on the Bighorns, and 100 miles on the Terracross'. I'm not that impressed with the Terracross tires.

DV

Posted by: jbbooks

Here in the desert southwest, All of the atv clubs throughout Utah and Arizona seem to be for one tire and one tire only; The Maxxis Bighorn.
I am just about at the point with my stock tires to where I have that very same decision to make.
Rocks, rocks and more rocks are the main concern out these parts. I hope I can sell my better half on the cost of the Bighorns.

Posted by: brpbear

Go with the BIG HORNS They are the best.

Posted by: brpbear

Originally posted by: DesertViper

I've had more time to put some miles on the three tires mentioned in this thread. For best performance in typical conditions encountered in the southwest USA I would rank these tires as follows:



1) Bighorn

2) XTR

3) Terracross



We have 800 miles on the XTRs, 500 miles on the Bighorns, and 100 miles on the Terracross'. I'm not that impressed with the Terracross tires.



DV


I would have to agree with you on the Big Horns because the set I have has 4000miles and still looks good.I have only heard of one ever braking and never seen one brake and I ride about 4000miles a year.

Posted by: brpbear

You will like your horns

Posted by: btremont

Hi I am looking at getting either 26" Maxxis Big Horn Tires on SS108 RIMS or 26" Mud Lite XTR Tires on SS108 RIMS for my new 700 GRIZZLY. Can anyone give me some feedback on which of these tires are better.

I mainly do trail riding, some mud, lot's of rocks and logs. Also, I am looking for something that will give me a smooth ride.

Thanks

Posted by: btremont

Originally posted by: DesertViper

Here is what the 25" Terracross tires look like on a Grizzly 700.

click here



Thanks everyone for there input. I have to throw in the Terracross in the mix they are sweet looking tires.

DesertViper, that is a beautiful looking special edition. Do you know what kind of SS rims those are???? What a great looking machine.......

Thanks

Posted by: btremont

Here is a great article on the ITP site about TerraCross tires very impressive

http://www.itptires.com/newproducts.html

Posted by: btremont

Originally posted by: DesertViper

They are the SS 112 wheels that are available either in the chrome finish that I have, or also in an alternating polished aluminum and black pattern. I preferred the chrome wheel with the silver SE Grizzly. The pictures absolutely do not do the wheels justice. The chrome is show quality, and should be more resistant to fine scratches that occur in polished aluminum wheels.



DV



DesertViper if you don't mind how much did you pay for yours. I received a
price from DICKS ATV for $799.00. Mike at Dicks ATV is a great to deal with.

That price was for:

> TERRACROSS R/T on SS112 CHROME
>
> 26"x9Rx12 fronts
> 26"x11Rx12 back

Posted by: btremont

Ok one more observation. I have a buddy I ride with and he has the 26" Mud Lite XTR on a SS108 rim. The sidewalls on the XTR are wide enough to protect the rim. I have noticed that his rim never gets hit because the the sidewall is always protecting it. Have you guys noticed if the Big Horn or the TerraCross tires do the same thing.......... ????????

jbbooks as you stated rocks, rocks and more rocks the sidewall protecting the rim is very, very important in these riding conditions....

Thanks

Posted by: btremont

Originally posted by: DesertViper

I paid dealer cost on the tires and wheels, so I can't really say what it was on an open forum like this. It sounds like you have been quoted a very good price from Dicks ATV though.



And speaking about protecting the rims from rock damage, ... thats why I went with 25x10R-12 tires on all four corners with my Grizzly, instead of getting the narrower 25x8R-12 front tires. I hate that grinding "thunk" sound when your wheels smack into rocks.



I just looked at the sidewalls of the XTRs we have on one Grizzly, the Terracross' we have on the other Grizzly, and the Bighorns we have on our Rhino. I wouldn't say any of them have a significant bead protection feature built into them. At least they all looked about the same in that area to me, and none of them have the thick bulletproof ridge of rubber in that area that the set of Mudzilla tires we have stacked in the corner of the garage does, or that the 37" tires on the Jeep do.


Ok DesertViper that is excellent information. Yes Dicks ATV have excellent prices.
That's what I was thinking of getting a little bit bigger so the rims are protected.
Ok so you actually have all three tires that I am looking at:

(1) XTR's
(2) TerraCross
(3) BigHorns

If you had to choose one for all around riding, sand, rocks,logs, snow, mud...
Which one would you choose.

I am leading towards the BigHorns........but they seem to wear a little faster than the other two...... so I am not 100% sure.................but leading that way.....

Thanks again for the great info

Posted by: btremont

Excellent DesertViper thanks again for your input. I also have the 700 Grizz S/E and there great machines AND GOOD LUCK IN YOUR RACE...........

JeffinTD what size of TIRES and RIMS are you looking at .......?????

Posted by: btremont

Originally posted by: JeffinTD

I'll probably just stick with 25's on stock rims...



I was just looking at your pictures............. great stuff........ I have a soft spot for Hondas .... I owned one for 5 years..........they are great, solid machines. What sold me on the Yamaha was the power steering and a few other small things. Enjoy your 680 Rincon...... :-)

I think I will be going with the 26"x10x12 all the way around (BIGHORNS)

Posted by: btremont

Originally posted by: JeffinTD

The Yamaha looks like a great machine, and I was on the verge of getting one instead of the Rincon. I do wish Honda would make an IRS machine with a locker, low range and power steering.



Enjoy the Yamaha, and let us know what you think of the bighorns.



You need to get busy and upload some photos yourself...



Yes I will upload some pics after I get back from my trip out West in Canada.
I will be getting the bighorns when I get back also...... will keep you updated.
Enjoy and ride..........safe.................. :-)

Posted by: btremont

Originally posted by: brpbear

Originally posted by: DesertViper



I've had more time to put some miles on the three tires mentioned in this thread. For best performance in typical conditions encountered in the southwest USA I would rank these tires as follows:







1) Bighorn



2) XTR



3) Terracross







We have 800 miles on the XTRs, 500 miles on the Bighorns, and 100 miles on the Terracross'. I'm not that impressed with the Terracross tires.







DV




I would have to agree with you on the Big Horns because the set I have has 4000miles and still looks good.I have only heard of one ever braking and never seen one brake and I ride about 4000miles a year.


Thanks for your reply. It's good to hear from people who have actually have had some good experience with them.

Will be ordering my Big Horn next week............can't wait.................

Posted by: btremont

I could not wait until next week ordered my Maxxis Big Horn Radial Tire
26x9x12 fronts 26x12x12 rear on ITP SS108 Machined Rims today... they should
be in a couple of days... will post some pics when I have them on....

Yes, yes, yes, yes............... :-) :-)

Posted by: 1badyellaoutty

Originally posted by: RSeb

The Bighorns will give you a slightly better ride, but are a bit heavier. The XTRs will be better in the slop, but I have heard that they have weaker sidewalls. Both are an excellent all-around tire.



I've got about 900 miles on my XTRs and have never even had a flat.



I agree from experiance that the XTR's do have very week sidewalls. Within the last three weekends of normal trail riding & some rocks I had cuts full through on one front and one rear tire sidewall (2 diff weekends) good thing is that ITP is going to replace them under warranty but they want me to ship the the bad ones back on my dime.

My brother just purchased ITP Terra Cross (which IMO are great tires) we noticed while comparing the two the Terra have a very hard sidewall. I will go with the Terra'a next time the only drawback is they do not come in 27" as do the XTR's.

My suggestion is to go with the terra cross.