King Quad 700 vs Grizz 700, which is faster?????

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Posted by: 2TV

Ran my friends KQ against my 700 Grizz on a 400' flat grass run. With his stock 25" tires and my 26" Dirt Devils, he wins by about 1 quad length. When he switched to 27" 589s (I still had my 26" Dirt Devils on) I beat him by about 1 1/2 quad lengths.

The Grizzly has slightly better engine braking and the power steering takes the cake IMO (if you like to ride rough trails where it makes a big difference that is)...

Posted by: 2TV

I have no complaints about the new Grizz seat either, but then again I was used to a Brute Force 750 (if you think the new Grizz sits high, you should try a Brute Force!). I ride quite agressively at times myself and actually I find myself standing more than sitting down anyway (after over 20 years of dirt bike riding standing feels more natural plus you have better control of the machine and a better sight distance when rapidly traversing terrain). I can be just cruising along with my riding buddies right behind me, but then when I stand up I actually speed up without realizing it sometimes and the next thing I know I'm riding by myself...

Posted by: 2TV

Hunter009, does your buddy have the new 700 Grizzly? It's a completely different animal from the 660. The 700 Grizzly definitely raises the bar...

Posted by: 2TV

About that fuel management adjustment on the Grizzly, remember that the originator of that report already had a performance exhaust system installed. I do not know if they had made any air intake (air filter) changes or not. Adjusting the fuel map would be necessary if the air intake flow and / or exhaust flow rate is modified just as you would have to modify the jetting with similar modifications on a carbureted model. So I'm pretty sure the performance exhaust system had something to do with that power increase and chances are that modifying the fuel map on a completely stock Grizzly would not have the same effect. Also that 9 - 10 MPH speed increase was over the measured course that they were using. I don't think that changing the fuel map or even in addition to making air intake / exhaust modifications will increase your top speed. It will just help the machine to get to it's top speed quicker than before...

Posted by: CaptainQuint

I'm just not all that comfortable on a big top heavy utility ATV with low pressure flotation tires and soft suspension and a solid rear differential section flying down a trail, gravel road or pavement at top speed. The handling, well, it's just not a confidence inspiring. Come on. Compared to vehicles designed for such activities the things ride like pregnant whales.

I find that I rarely find myself hitting 40 mph on my ATV. That is on the gravel go to and from certain parts of my farm. On the trails around my farm I don't think I hit 10 very often. It's just too tight and curvy through the woods to go very fast. Most of the times a very fast runner could go as fast or faster than I'm going. Heck many times someone could nearly walk faster.

I don't really care about top speed. I care about usable power. I care about handling. I care about comfortable ride. I care about durability. I care about build quality. I care about manufacturer support after the sale.

Posted by: oldturtle

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Originally posted by: FITSofRAGE
well so far. i love my new grizz. there is only one complaint. the darn seat is sooo thick and feels high. i am going to try to get an upolstry place to cut it down some. my 03 grizz u set lower on it. but the seat is cummfy.. just feels tall....

Just the thought of tearing up that beautifully comfortable seat makes me cringe. This is not a race quad. I think you need to give yourself a little time to adjust to the best seat of all time. You may regret modifying the seat. And I have modified the seat on darn near everything I have ever owned, but just not this one.

Posted by: oldturtle

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Originally posted by: CaptainQuint
....Come on. Compared to vehicles designed for such activities the things ride like pregnant whales.....

I suppose that comparing either the Griz or the King to a good sport quad at speed may seem like riding a pregnant whale. However, there is major difference between various sport utilities. While test riding the Polaris 500 EFI, I did think that this feels just like riding a boat. Then on the King Quad it felt much more like a sport quad.

Posted by: oldturtle

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Originally posted by: FITSofRAGE..... but im going to have my seat done by an upholstry fella here. that is, if he can do it. he does show cars.....

I have redone many seats for myself, friends, and grandkids. I have had great luck carving down seat foam with a medium wood rasp and then finish off with a file. The foam comes off fast and easy with a wood rasp and you can carefully get just exactly the shape you want. Forget about using the electric turkey carving knife. Any appolstery shop can re install the stock seat cover. I have air powered staple gun but that is a little pricey for just one seat cover. I would not have much confidence that anyone elso would get it just right for you. I seem to remember that the stock griz seat foam is dual stage foam so this could be another reason for you to carefully cut down the foam yourself. However you do the seat, I hope it works out for you.

Posted by: oldturtle

King vrs Griz and all other big bores, its not about the power. I scratched the Bombs, the Cats, and Polaris because of their linked brakes. I want right hand front brake along with good 4 wheel engine braking. Next issue is handling and the King has issues like steering instability in the rocks. So that leaves Griz as the only option for me and power/speed was never a factor.

Posted by: DesertViper

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Originally posted by: FITSofRAGE
the power steering gives u the, i just dont get tired riding it feel. it handles way better then my 03. wich i still love the 03, but its kinda like godzilla now. the ergonomics of the 07 grizz are great. and u can use diff lock. and really not know your in diff lock with the power steering. i tested this quite a bit while riding some tight places. u can actually use diff lock at any time. very good thing. :,)

You're right, you can't tell when you are in four wheel drive with the new Grizzly, based on steering anyway. We rode last weekend, and there was two feet of fresh snow at our house when we loaded up in the morning, so I put the Grizzly 700 in 4x4 to get it up on the trailer, and my son used the speed is my friend technique to get the YFZ 450 on the trailer. We went riding someplace 50 miles south, and 3000 feet lower elevation than where we live, and there was no snow at all. I unloaded the Grizzly and didn't even think about the fact that I had put it in four wheel drive earlier that morning. I ended up riding for 15 miles before I figured out it was in four wheel drive. And the only reason I discovered it was in four wheel drive was because my son on the YFZ started challenging me in the turns, and I noticed that I could not do the drift king routine in the turns with the Grizzly like I normally can. The Grizzly just wanted to hook up and go around the turn instead of letting the rear end drift out. I looked at the dash display and noticed it was in four wheel drive, but would have never noticed it based on steering effort. As soon as I dissengaged four wheel drive it was back to full throttle power slides again. BR>
The Grizzly is no sport quad, but it does real good for a utility ATV (better than any other I have ridden).

DV

Posted by: DesertViper

Speaking about how high these utility quads are, ... Yamaha actually kept the Grizzly 700 reasonably low, considering how much ground clearance it has. We have had my Dad's Brute Force 650i parked right alongside my Grizzly 700 on the trailer, and it surprised me that the front rack of his Brute Force 650i with 25" tires was actually an inch higher than the front rack of my Grizzly 700 with 27" tires. And his 25" tires had 3 psi in them, whereas my 27" tires had 6 psi in them. And I believe the Brute Force 750i is a bit higher than the 650i.

V2Rider,
any chance you can measure the distance to the top of the front rack on your Arctic Cat? My Grizzly 700 measures 38 1/2"

DV

Posted by: DesertViper

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Originally posted by: booch1
clocked my 06 660 grizz at 72 mph on mygps 6mph faster than my buddies kq can only imagine how much faster the 700 grizz is

64 mph on the speedometer, at 6000 ft altitude, with 27" tires.

Posted by: DesertViper

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Originally posted by: v2rider
yes, it is 39 1/2" to the top of the front of the front rack

Thanks. So after taking into account the differences in tire heights, the Cat sits an inch and a half higher than the Grizz, or thereabouts.

Posted by: Toyeboy

I'm guessing "which is faster?" is really asking which is more powerful? Really most 700cc utes can do close to 70mph so top speed isn't a big deal. I haven't ridden the new Grizz 700, but from what I've heard it's not much if anymore powerful than the King in stock form. Come Febuary, VDI is finally releasing their ECU for the King which will change things DRAMATICALLY since the King is detuned so bad in stock form.

Posted by: Toyeboy

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Originally posted by: TrailxRider
No kidding, look at all those Suzuki bikes you had! lol

And yeah the Can-Am crushes both of them..

The 800 crushes the King in power, but not much else..sure the Can-Ams are fast but their build quality is questionable in comparison to top quality brands like Yamaha, Suzuki, etc.. I'd hope the 800 is better for how much it costs.

Posted by: Toyeboy

If I was in the market right now I wouldn't consider another King Quad or the Grizzly. I'd have to go with a BF 750 or Outty 800 simply b/c IMO the King's power is just okay for a 700cc machine, where the BF 750 and 800 are in another league. I'd get a BF 750 just b/c it's one of the big four jap brands. But the King's power should get MUCH better after VDI releases their ECU though, b/c it's a dog down low with the severe stock detune.

The need for more power isn't b/c I want more speed, it's b/c I want more low end torque to keep the tires spinning in the mud and snow.

Posted by: Toyeboy

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Originally posted by: FITSofRAGE
i c.. well we can go thru this power thing all day.. again big power is good in certain places. i just know from my experiences.. that ive blown off several more powerful quads racing in the woods. again its the rider. and as said earlier. PREFERENCE. im not bashing any of them. its just on here. all u ever seem to hear. is how fast is it. whats the top speed. on a ute.. i still think its funny. just like the good old yfz 450 or suzuki.. there both fast. but u can get a rider on a ex 300 or 400 and smoke both the fast quads. guess im just getting down to, yes the big ones there have more power. there faster. but that does not always put them in the lead. thats why racing is so much fun. u can have an underdog quad. but yet still come out on top. i look more into riding technique. and set up i guess. rather then just who has the most power. we could make a bus fly with a big enough engine. just like the old f4 phantoms in vietnam. they thought u could make any thing fast with a big enough engine.. or should i say engines. it was one bad mamma jamma!!! but there were some less powerful planes. that gave the old girl a run for her money.. and again that came down to pilots! SEMPER FI carry on hr>

Yeah I understand what your saying. I've seen the KQ beat outlanders on ESPN 2 when they have the ATV racing, the guy that drives the King makes the King look like a yz 450. The Arctic Cats won a few times as well, that tells you all these big bores have their advantages. I think I'm just aggrevated that my King 700's power was neutered so much from the factory on the low end, but once that's fixed with VDI's ECU, I'll be happy.

Posted by: Toyeboy

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Originally posted by: BlastFeem
I would love to see the guys riding these KQ's that cant steer them or have all the problems with the steering.. Or better yet I like to ride one that is suppose to have the bad steering
I cant believe all the problems i have read about this on other websites. Maybe I got lucky with mine? Hell I think mine steers like pwr steering (other than when its in diff lock) but how often do you use
difflock? I dont, havnt really needed it. Going fast, up hill down hill, over rocks etc havnt had the bars ripped out of my hands yet.
Then again i have pythons for arms.. lol

I know what you mean, the King steers very easy, which is easier on the arms and shoulders. The only problem I've had with the steering is the fact that it feels a bit twichy in comparison to my Polaris, but it's not as much of a problem as some have made it out to be. As for the handlebars getting jerked out, I haven't had this occur, I personally think that this is caused more from a combination of unusually rough terrain and maybe rider error going to fast for the type of terrain they're driving on. You can't expect the handlebars of anything without power steering to not move when you snag a log or rock, people need to use caution when going over uneven rough terrain.

Posted by: Toyeboy

Originally posted by: Eisel34

As a 05 King and buddy as 05 Grizzly I would say go for the Grizzly with the power Steering as long as your dont ride in water. Buddies Grizzly has been pulled back every trip to Hatfield Mccoy. And since we been talking to people all the grizzs have that problem we keep hearing different reasons. As far as how fast I would not worry about that they are about equal he gets me a little if you are looking for fastest for some odd reason I guess you ride on dirt roads go with the renegade other buddy has outlander 650 and he runs away from us

A king 700 with the new VDI copperhead ecu can beat a Outty 650 in a drag, a guy on nyroc's forum said he won first place in a local atv drag race(which included beating a outty 650, bf 650, etc..) it turns the king into a much faster atv.

Posted by: Instigater

FITSofRAGE just got the Grizz, Blastfeem has the KQ. Both like what they have. As too which is faster, maybe they'll run 'em after the Grizz gets broken in.(10 hrs)

Posted by: Instigater

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Originally posted by: Outback31
Remember top speed isn't everything unless you are going to be riding on the salt flats.

Yeah, me and FITS love making fun of people that ask "What's the top speed on......" If, it is a sport quad, we say nothing. Most of the time it is a utility, we have ourselves a ball.

What is the top speed is of a big ute quad, going through a very tight trail, over logs, through mud holes, over bridges just wide enough for the quad, with 28" Mudzillas, in reverse? Why do so many people care about TOP speed? We see about 30-35 mph on a strait-away where we ride and about 15 around corners, any faster than that, you are a donkey. Our trails are non-directional, traffic flows both ways. I would give anything for one of these donkeys to come that fast around a corner and see the front of my MV coming at 'em.

Posted by: Instigater

Those have got to be the 2 best looking quads, I've ever seen. I can't believe how tough they look. I bet those things are better than any other quad in their class. Heck I bet no other quad could ever be in THAT class. Boy, Yamaha sure does set the bar high don't they? What does it feel like to have those? I bet you get alot of people wanting to be your friend. Then again, I bet someone that you think is your friend bashes your stuff. What will you do about it? How will you sleep? What will we do for food? How will you respond? Guess what, I don't want to ride your new Grizz. That makes you mad, doesn't it. I don't want to ride it and you can't make me!

Posted by: Instigater

Don't forget Meerkat, Kazuma and Enon

Posted by: Instigater

I rode both yesterday and did a little comparing, Blastfeems KQ and FITSofRAGE's Grizzly. I rode them for about 3-5 mins each. I believe that the KQ is faster, it seemed "out of the hole" power was greater. I did not do any trail riding. I stood on both quads for my testing. I did not sit down, so, I don't have an oppinion of the Grizzly seat being too high. I did not use the brakes on either, or engine braking, I was in an open field. The Grizzly seemed to absorb the bumps better at WOT. The Grizzly settings are still stock, the KQ were at a little stiffer settings, than stock. This may have attributed to the stiffer ride across open terrain on the KQ. I liked the Grizzly footwell better than the KQ. I am used to a flat footwell, like Polaris. The KQ was more like a footpeg on a sport quad, which reminded me of what I was on (sport/utility). There is still a footwell for splash/slipoff protection. I put the Grizzly in diff lock 4WD and the power steering is awesome. I could not tell a difference from the diff lock being engaged. I did not put the KQ in diff lock. I was not comparing the diff locks, just testing the P/S of the Grizzly. Obviously with no 4WD on, the Grizzly still steered better, but they both steered like a dream compared to Polaris machines.

Posted by: Instigater

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Originally posted by: BlastFeem

Read Instigater's reply again he is talking about the 700 grizz... thats what he was comparing..

Yes, this is true, this comparison is about the 700's. I have compared the 660 with the Polaris on a different thread!

Although not mentioned in this thread, I have rode the Brute Force 750 and Outlander 800 today only on dry asphault,.......no comparison with power, those are monsters. The Outty of course, kills all others in the power department!

Posted by: Instigater

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Originally posted by: TrailxRider
Since you dont seem to be getting much help..

I've never had a Grizzly, heard good things, but I do have a KQ, which is a GREAT machine, I am very happy with it. It ( stock, according to the manufacturer ) will go 68 MPH.

Well, I am glad you offered your advice, since nobody seems to be weighing in on the topic. Don't look now, but this whole thread had been comparing the 2, which is what he asked!

Posted by: Instigater

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Originally posted by: FITSofRAGE
yea but how fast do they go up hill with 28 inch zillas on it?what is top speed on it going thru the bog. i have to laugh at this.. i think they all in stock form, go quite fast enough to get into trouble. i think any of them will easily top 50. now u tell me.. what tight woods are u going to ride these in. and do over 50 mph.. and how many times do we just ride in a flat field and race straight back and forth.. i think when it come to going fast thru the woods. it takes a certain part of atv. like 25% quad. and 75% rider. u can take a good rider, put him on a honda recon. and blow the doors off some one else of less experience riding a king quad or grizzly. the nicer handling atv,s make it much easier to go faster on. but big power does not always mean u are going to be the fastest thru the woods. or to the finish line. power helps. but sometimes. theres only so much of it u can use at one time or another. i think everyone worries too much about top speed. i believe that alot of people should practice in riding skills also.. i like power and i love my grizzos. and i like more power. but u still have to be able to ride them well also. that is, if you are wanting to haul butt thru the woods.. hare scrambles are fun. and a good place to learn about going faster.. and getting hit by other people too.. kinda sucks eeekkkbut still fun...

Nothing is as fast as the ole MV with 28" Zillas, very low end clutch set-up, 2 full tanks of gas, 300 lb rider, and a 3-12" subs to eat at the rest stops.

Posted by: Instigater

well, thank you FITS... I am sure you are looking for a nice reply as a thank you, but you're not going to get it!

Posted by: Instigater

I do not have pythons......I have earthworms!

Posted by: squeege

Hey TrailxRider...........Yer like 35 mile west of me..........How's it hangin'

Posted by: squeege

Hey FITS!

That giant scale gas planes.. aerobatic stuff is really awesome to watch.....saw some on youtube and was like WOW!

Posted by: squeege

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Originally posted by: TrailxRider
Hey, I'm good.

Where exactly you live, and ride at? We may have ridden together before.

I have a place in Pittsburgh, but ride in crawford county area, near meadville, pa

Posted by: v2rider

I would get the grizz, faster or not. I honestly dont know which is faster, but the grizz would be in my garage like yesterday over the KQ

Posted by: v2rider

The handling, well, it's just not a confidence inspiring. Come on. Compared to vehicles designed for such activities the things ride like pregnant whales.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I seem to be able to keep up with most on the trails. The only area of trouble would be sharp high speed corners.

Posted by: v2rider

And If you think a BF sits high, you should try a new Arctic Cat!!

Posted by: v2rider

yes, it is 39 1/2" to the top of the front of the front rack

Posted by: v2rider

Thanks Fitsof Rage! And my creation is almost complete, to replace my wife........ Do you have any pics?

Posted by: v2rider

thats a nice grizz!

Hey fitsofrage, nice machines!!

Posted by: v2rider

Im happy to see that you threw water on a thread that was going to burn out of control soon.

Posted by: FranktheTank76

Thinking about buying one of the two, be nice to know to help make my decision easier, Thanks.

Posted by: GEARSLAYER

Here's my Grizz!

GC Grizz 700

Posted by: GEARSLAYER

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Originally posted by: Instigater
I rode both yesterday and did a little comparing, Blastfeems KQ and FITSofRAGE's Grizzly. I rode them for about 3-5 mins each. I believe that the KQ is faster, it seemed "out of the hole" power was greater. I did not do any trail riding. I stood on both quads for my testing. I did not sit down, so, I don't have an oppinion of the Grizzly seat being too high. I did not use the brakes on either, or engine braking, I was in an open field. The Grizzly seemed to absorb the bumps better at WOT. The Grizzly settings are still stock, the KQ were at a little stiffer settings, than stock. This may have attributed to the stiffer ride across open terrain on the KQ. I liked the Grizzly footwell better than the KQ. I am used to a flat footwell, like Polaris. The KQ was more like a footpeg on a sport quad, which reminded me of what I was on (sport/utility). There is still a footwell for splash/slipoff protection. I put the Grizzly in diff lock 4WD and the power steering is awesome. I could not tell a difference from the diff lock being engaged. I did not put the KQ in diff lock. I was not comparing the diff locks, just testing the P/S of the Grizzly. Obviously with no 4WD on, the Grizzly still steered better, but they both steered like a dream compared to Polaris machines.

This thread was about the 700's. FITSofRAGE's Grizz is a 660 I believe. The Grizzly 700 is a more refined machine IMO as I too had a 2003 660. I think the 700 Grizz has the best steering in the industry now, a stronger midrange than the 660, and handles only a hair better than the 660. The top speeds are comparable but the 700 gets there faster hands down. Don't get me wrong, the 660 is still plenty nimble and worth every penny! It's just that the power steering takes the cake.

Only complaint on the 700 is it cuts out at or off idle once in a while. I believe this has been fixed by getting them breathing better.

Posted by: GEARSLAYER

My bad guys...looked like he was talking about the 660. I need to get some glasses! lol

Posted by: brpbear

I would get the Grizz for two reasons.One PS.two the Grizz is geared lower and doesn't lose as much power when you put larger tires on them or us it at higher altitude

Posted by: brpbear

The Grizz will out perform the king quad but when it is compared to the 650 and 800 outty the outtys eat bears for lunch.

Posted by: brpbear

nullI know one place the Grizz can't stay with the outty thats in the snow at 7000ft.

Posted by: brpbear

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Posted by: brpbear

Originally posted by: Toyeboy

Why would you want a queen with a VDI box when you could have a 800 outty for the same money as a 700 queen and a VDI box.

Posted by: brpbear

I think you had better ck your prices 9700 will get you a xt with all the extras like a winch,bumpers,tire up grade and a three year warrenty

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

well so far. i love my new grizz. there is only one complaint. the darn seat is sooo thick and feels high. i am going to try to get an upolstry place to cut it down some. my 03 grizz u set lower on it. but the seat is cummfy.. just feels tall. the power is good, from what ive felt so far. still breaking it in. the handling with stock tires is very very good. feels light and very responsive compared to my 03. the power steering gives u the, i just dont get tired riding it feel. it handles way better then my 03. wich i still love the 03, but its kinda like godzilla now. the ergonomics of the 07 grizz are great. and u can use diff lock. and really not know your in diff lock with the power steering. i tested this quite a bit while riding some tight places. u can actually use diff lock at any time. very good thing. the front breaks are now killer. u can use one finger to shut her down. and the rear breaks are also very stout. it blows my 03 away in the brake department. and with the new control arms. u can tell the difference going over obsticals. the improved ground clearance from them, makes a huge difference. where my 03 the lower a arms would hit towards the middle. these just go over them. another nice feature. and u can adjust the fuel management using the instrument panel. a feature off yamaha roadrace bikes.. another nice thing!!! so far it has passed my expectations. other then the seat.. now the king quad. both my friends. blast and bat cave boy have them. and i like them both. ive ridden them both. they feel light. nimble. and handle well. and have killer breaks. but i have owned yamaha all my life. with some others in there. so i stuck with the grizz because how my 03 treated me. i dont think u would go wrong with either. i would say get the grizz. just because of some of its ammenities. but u should go look at them both. and really take time to look at them. and maybe try to ride them both. and see what u think. its ur money. get what makes u happy. but ill stick with both my grizzos. i feel i have another long time friend with my new one. and the 03 is now the bogger. well if we can keep a certain name axle in it. and no more breaky :,)

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

oh yea. the engine breaking is very very good. i mean good. just had to throw that in there.. and it does not matter wich is faster. they both have more then enough power. everyone worries about how fast they are. the big kawi brute has more. but could u get it thru the woods faster then these two? i highly dought it. the rider means alot. u can have the fastest atv on the planet. but u also have to be able to ride and control this thing>>>>

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

lol. i think that most utes have come far enough. that they dont handle like pregnant whales.. both mine have done well. the 03 used to be quite the hare scramble machine. till i put on the 28 zillas. and we go a bit faster then 10 mph thru our trail system. unless its the very tight rocky technical stuff. my yfz 450 is the railing machine. but the big utes can do the job. not a sport quad by no means. but u can go fast enough to make ur hair stand up at times.. just dont let one get away from u.. he he

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

yep thats why they call them sport utilitys. ive got my new 26" swamp lites and 7 series itp,s coming too. im staying with a smaller tire. i dont want to turn this one into godzilla, like my 03. i got one to bog. and one to trail ride. and the 450 just to flat out rail. i feel now i have the best of all worlds. work my butt off for them. but i like all my toys.. now that im single. its quite nice. the difference between men and boyz are the price of there toyzzzzzzzzimg src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> and the seat has still got to go. i ride very agressive thru the woods. and some of my friends are the same way. my old grizz's seat was just fine. and still is. the new grizz does have a very plush seat. but i dont really care about a softest seat. i like to ride. and ride hard alot. so i rather set a bit lower on it. may be a ute. but they still handle well for what they are. there not just made to putt along. although, its nice sometimes to do that. but i like to keep the old throttle on. man i wish it would snow here. even though i hate winter. id like to go hit the road. and do some snow rideing. but as of now. i just luvvvvvvvv my new grizzo.. and i cant wait to go bogggg my old grizzo some moreimg src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

oh by the way. i did see in dirt wheels that the new grizzo won the shootout. was a toss up between the rincon, grizzly, and sportsman?? eeekkk. at the end. i thought they would say the honda. but all seemed to round it out. and picked the grizz. and i also read another article. where the honda rincon won a shootout. so guess its just who is rideing them. and who is judgeing them. but ill stick with my grizzo.. yamaha has been very good to me. since i was the age of 7. but i still like the king quad too..

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

im not saying i want it to set like a sport quad. and i do stand up most often too. but i like the way my 03 seat is better. when u are setting on it. it just feels much higher then the old grizz. and sometimes while in rough rocky stuff. and u are moving around on the seat. i would just like it a bit lower. the height of the quad is great. my 03 has 14 inches of ground clearance. and i still will ride it hard thru the woods. only it will where u out faster. this is just my preference. i like a lower seat. and i did set on a brute force 750. and oh yes. it was like setting on a fork lift. very high feeling. i was looking at one of these to buy. till i set on it. any how. i more then love this atv. i love them both. one is big. one is stock. but im going to have my seat done by an upholstry fella here. that is, if he can do it. he does show cars. so i dont think my seat would be much of a bother. again. this is just my preference. u know. different strokes..for diff. fokes. and i am deffinetly different. my butt is not that tender that i need the thickest seat. but yes yamaha did a good job on this seat. for people that want ultimate comfort. and im talking seat height. not the height of the atv. the ground clearance is fine. but i like a lower center of gravity, that is my but just a little closer to the frame.. img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">. as of now. i just cant think of any other ute atv i would rather have. hay i know. ill let instigater ride it for a while. and break the seat in with his 300 lb. self.. big man. big seat. big break in and i dont mean big around. i mean paul bunyon big.. eeeekkkkk

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

oh by the way there v2. that green AC just looks mean!!!!

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

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Thanks Fitsof Rage! And my creation is almost complete, to replace my wife........ Do you have any pics?

ah. replace wife??? mine should have been replaced years ago. but better late then never. i have one less wife. and many more toyzzzzzzzz
img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">. i got some new pics of my new grizz at elson street. i just have not uploaded them to my photo bucket yet. im getting a collection though. i want to get some more bog footage of the old grizz. ive had some trouble breaking rear gorilla axles. eeekkkk. any how. they both have been sent back. guess they may have been an older batch. the new ones have better shafts. cv's are the same. but the bar is better chrome molly. so hope my new ones just take the mud slinging punishment..

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

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some of the new. and a couple of muddy old grizz.. with new snorkels. should have done them long ago. i cant wait till friday for my new swamp lites. and then i just want to go ride for hours and hours and miles and miles... ah man its sooo nice looking. all nice and clean in its new stock self.. that wont last long. time to start scratching it up. not too bad i hope.. he he

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

u dont need to ride it. im too busy riding it. i want to ride it. and yes yamaha makes some nice things. so does honda, kawisaki, suzuki.. oh did i forget one.. ah i did not think so. i once thought i was wrong. but i was mistaken. look what u bring here. the web of deciept. are u still going this weekend. wont have my new gorillas. but i have the stocker back in. ill bog till it breaks.. then ride my shiney new one.. now quit with this sarcazm bashing. u big russian. ill hide ur lunch box. oh yes. theres can am. arctic cat.. lets see. lets see. nope cant think of any other nice quads.. i know theres some chineese ones. welp thats all i can think of.. YOU SAID IT. NOT ME!!!!!

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

hay thanks oldturtle.. i just may do that. but i think i will ride it some more. and see. without my coveralls on. it did not feel as bad.. maybe i got a thick butted coveralls!!!. i got my new tires and itp rims. i am riding this weekend. and i will see how it feels. and if i get used to it. i just may leave it alone. guess time will tell.. thanks and take care

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

htanks v2. yes gear that is one nice grizzo. i sometimes think i still like read better then blue. but i wanted somthing different. and my 450 is blue.. so somthing different. any how.. thanks. and very nice

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

u can adjust them thru there on board fuel management system. and yes the 700 handles much better then the 660. it feels lighter on its feet. IMO. mine also has hesitated once in a while right off idle. but as ive ridden it. it has gotten better. could be it is breaking in. its been running fine as of now. instigater rode both my grizzos. but he rode the 660 for 4 hours. where my 700 he rode in a field. next time. he will have to ride the 700 longer. this post has run off some. but they all do it seams. but as for the 700 u just cant go wrong with it. and ill bet your right. a little slip on. clutch kit. and some on board adjusting. the 700 grizz would wake right up. and probably surprise u.. thats about the only thing this one of mine will get. clutch kit. and a good slip on.. and thats enough. my 03 is my monster. ill do more to it. but not the new one. i pretty much like it the way it is.. yamaha did an out standing job. improving this grizzly..

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

yea but how fast do they go up hill with 28 inch zillas on it?what is top speed on it going thru the bog. i have to laugh at this.. i think they all in stock form, go quite fast enough to get into trouble. i think any of them will easily top 50. now u tell me.. what tight woods are u going to ride these in. and do over 50 mph.. and how many times do we just ride in a flat field and race straight back and forth.. i think when it come to going fast thru the woods. it takes a certain part of atv. like 25% quad. and 75% rider. u can take a good rider, put him on a honda recon. and blow the doors off some one else of less experience riding a king quad or grizzly. the nicer handling atv,s make it much easier to go faster on. but big power does not always mean u are going to be the fastest thru the woods. or to the finish line. power helps. but sometimes. theres only so much of it u can use at one time or another. i think everyone worries too much about top speed. i believe that alot of people should practice in riding skills also.. i like power and i love my grizzos. and i like more power. but u still have to be able to ride them well also. that is, if you are wanting to haul butt thru the woods.. hare scrambles are fun. and a good place to learn about going faster.. and getting hit by other people too.. kinda sucks eeekkkbut still fun...

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

lolur right man.. i forgot about those subs.. man. u better pack three more for me the next time.. u will have to take ur nitrous off the mv. to slow it down. better get some air brakes man..

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

from what ive seen of the can am 800. and this is from pulling the injured one out of the woods. the only good place for a can am. is on a farm. actually thats a bit harsh. from what ive seen. the can am does not hold a candle to a king quad. the king is most deffinetly king compared to a can am. the can am has a frame that looks like a toy. it may have a big powerful rotax. the best part of it. but again. the king would be a much better atv. in handling and toughness. i see u pay a huge price tag for a can am.. and im sure people have and love them. but after seeing one torn apart. i still say that just about any jap atv is built better. at least a king quad has a frame.. not just some flat piece of tin shaped into a c channel going out the front. with all its things hooked to it. like diff. and such.. it looked very chinsey.. and from how it folded. i would have to say it is as chinsey as it looks. and though it is not made of tin. just a figure of speach. any how. id take the king over the 800 any day.. and im sure that any one who has ridden. that really really looks at them. would also choose the jap atv.. im not a polaris man at all. but id take a polaris any day over the can am.. at least u know the polaris will not fold like this can am. instigaters polaris is quite beefy..

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

glad u like it. thats why this county is supposed to be free. we have the right to choose. thats what u choose. and its ur right. and glad u have luck with it. this is why we have so many things to choose from. people dont like yamaha. ive had great luck with my yfz 450 my grizzo. and now hopefully my new one. and all my yamahas in the past. and also ive had luck with my kawisakis suz. and hondas. ive had in the past. but this is why theres all these manufactures. so we can choose what we want. we also have the right to voice our opinions. wich opinions are like a holes. we all have them. we all like something different. guess thats what makes this country so great. we can go out and buy just about any thing we want. providing we have the money.. thats the bummer. so many great toys.. and alot of times. just not enough money to get these great toys.. the difference between men and boyz.. the price of there toys. heck look at me. i dont even have a king quad. but ive ridden them. both my friends. u can just tell by looking at them. they are good. and by riding them. i know they are good. but i like my yamaha better. but ive grown up with yamaha. but again. thats my choice.. so im glad u like ur can am.. its always nice when u get somthing. and then u like it. theres nothing worse then buying something. then not likeing it. so id say u did good. GOD BLESS THE LAND OF THE FREE!!!!

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

oh by the way. i see u have a blaster. got one of them too. a 2000. was my wifes. wich i have no wife any more.. thank god. i dont ride this one. but its been thru alot. and even though. they are a cheaper atv. and maybe some call them throw away. its been a tough little ride. got some go fast mods done to it. and it is one little wheely machine.. i dont know if i should sell it. or just give it to my soon to be x wife.. man i like that word. x wife. had two of them. never again.. now i have room for more toys.. and ride any time i want to.. may get lonely sometimes. but riding takes that away.. yes instigater you are welcome.. what did i say.. i must have been in a daze. or smelled too many exhaust fumes. did i say your quad was tough? did i really.. oh man what did i do? why why did i do this? welp guess u better bring an extra sub the next time we ride.. img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

im not arguing. i just voice my opinion like everyone else does on here. like i say. there like a holes. we all have them. some good. some bad.. but we all have them no matter what. ill ride with any one. i dont care what any one has. we all are doing the same thing. headed for the same goal. we all love to ride. and thats the bottom line. we all are in this to fullfill our needs. and thats doing what we love..ride.as u can see in my name. guess it fits me. im a bit different. but not bad. and this weekend. ill be taking out some fits of rage during a hare scramble this weekend.. i think im going to run my new 07 grizzo. should be better then the 03. but the o3 has gotton me some 1st and 2nd place trophies. alot of fun. ive got a sickness that just wont go away.. but thats ok.. SEMPER FI CARRY ON

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

well i used to roadrace motorcycles. last bike was a 99 yamaha r6. ran wera. glrra. and a local club fasttrax. i miss draggin my knees.. that was the best. all i have now. are my old leathers and helmet. and lots of pics and trophies. but at 1000.00 minimum race weekend. it got a bit exspensive. i havnt raced that in like 5 years. man do i miss it. id give any thing to race bikes again. but the price is just outrageous.. i live in ohio. and i used to go to atlanta to the gnf.. wera grand national finals. those were about a one week stay. and id spend in excess of 3500.00 bux.. so needless to say. those days are gone. and i miss them. but.. i run some harescrambles now. did some cra stuff. and some local hare scrambles here in ohio. i havnt done one in about 2 years. but its time to get back into them. i also fly giant scale gas planes.. aerobatic stuff. radio control. another hobby i have. that takes way too much money.. why is it, everything we like to do thats fun. costs soooo much dough.. i thought about taking up knitting. but im sure ud have to buy titanium needles or somthing. and that would be a bunch.. lol

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

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Originally posted by: squeege
Hey FITS!

That giant scale gas planes.. aerobatic stuff is really awesome to watch.....saw some on youtube and was like WOW!

yea i got two 35% planes. yak and edge 540. i fly 3d. its alot of fun. and u do get adrenalin flow with them..i have done that more in the past five years. well other then quad riding.. ive tried to stick to these two.. but money gets tight at times. but guess thats life.. i try to spread my butter too thin at times. but hobbies keep u sane. and its better then some. who set in bars and just drink it away.and get fat... hobbies are good clean fun.. well sometimes muddy fun.. he he

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

the gy wich could only use his one arm road the grizz in the one video. he did adjust the fuel on it. and that one he road did not have the pipe. they did a 1/8 mile run.. standing start. it gained 8 mph in there 1/8 mile run. top speed wich eveyone seems so worried about. stayed the same. it hit the rev limiter at 62 on the radar gun. and the speedo on the grizz read 65. but the one armed fella did run it stock. only adjusting the fuel. the other fella that raced it around the woods and track had the grizzo pipe on it. and yes im sure the pipe would wake it up. i have one on order. should be here today. yeaaaaa!! ive adjusted mine some. and it does make a difference. when i get my pipe. ill go higher. or to where it seems best for me. more in. more out.. theres the key. i will get to see just what the pipe does for me. grant it. i dont have radar guns and all that. but i can surely tell some by the seat of my pants..

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

good one trailx.. nice post. i agree. preference.. thats what its all about. and then just having fun with what u got...

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

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Originally posted by: brpbear
The Grizz will out perform the king quad but when it is compared to the 650 and 800 outty the outtys eat bears for lunch.

again. were talking flat out power. drag race strait line.. u can have all that power. but again will the big power out run a rider thru the woods on a grizzly or king quad. i highly dought it. the rider is the major factor here. they can eat up bear all day long in a straight line. now throw in some tight woods. jumps. corners. and lets see who eats what

oh and i would not be so sure that a grizz will just eat up a kq stock to stock. boht my buddys king quads run really really good. weve never raced. but u can tell from riding them they run really strong.. but again. we are usually hauling a$$ thru the woods.

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

yes in a straight line. im sure the big outty will outrun a king or grizz. thats it.. yes in a straight line. im sure they will out run them all day long. now lets add some tight woods. turns. humps bumps. jumps.. now lets see if the big outty can out run any others thru the woods. a straight line drag race is one thing. but when u are racing thru the woods. such as a hare scramble. or just plane in the woods. just because the outty has bigger power does not mean its going to be the victor. in a woods race. rider rider rider. u can have all the power in the world. but in tight situations. u can only use so much..ive out run atv,s at hare scramble. and fun riding in the woods. that would smoke me in a straight line. but yet they were not the victor. and they had much more power then i.. but yet i came out ahead. and ive had other riders. that had less than i. but yet they became the victor..

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

i c.. well we can go thru this power thing all day.. again big power is good in certain places. i just know from my experiences.. that ive blown off several more powerful quads racing in the woods. again its the rider. and as said earlier. PREFERENCE. im not bashing any of them. its just on here. all u ever seem to hear. is how fast is it. whats the top speed. on a ute.. i still think its funny. just like the good old yfz 450 or suzuki.. there both fast. but u can get a rider on a ex 300 or 400 and smoke both the fast quads. guess im just getting down to, yes the big ones there have more power. there faster. but that does not always put them in the lead. thats why racing is so much fun. u can have an underdog quad. but yet still come out on top. i look more into riding technique. and set up i guess. rather then just who has the most power. we could make a bus fly with a big enough engine. just like the old f4 phantoms in vietnam. they thought u could make any thing fast with a big enough engine.. or should i say engines. it was one bad mamma jamma!!! but there were some less powerful planes. that gave the old girl a run for her money.. and again that came down to pilots! SEMPER FI carry on

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

im sure theres alot u could do to it. dohc engine. theres pistons. cams, pipes. porting polishing. so many mods u can do to any. ill bet u can get some big power out of ur king. that engine has alot of potential. both kings my friends have. run pretty darn strong. and there stock.. so many mods. so much money. so little time. but theres always somthing to do to get power. so dont give up. just hang in there. you will get her up im sure..

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

ditto

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

ah yes pythons.. he he. hes telling u the truth. he has very big pythons for arms.. blast and instigater are brothers. and they both are very big fellas.. i dont think he has to worry about the bars being pulled from him. unless if he hits a tree head on. and then i hate to see the tree afterwards.. eeeekkkkkBR>they dont need power steering. they are power steering..

Posted by: FITSofRAGE

yea right! lumber jack.. i believe that..

Posted by: JDGrizz

The Grizz, hands down.

Posted by: BlastFeem

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Originally posted by: Outback31
Remember top speed isn't everything unless you are going to be riding on the salt flats.

Yeah, me and FITS love making fun of people that ask "What's the top speed on......" If, it is a sport quad, we say nothing. Most of the time it is a utility, we have ourselves a ball.

What is the top speed is of a big ute quad, going through a very tight trail, over logs, through mud holes, over bridges just wide enough for the quad, with 28" Mudzillas, in reverse? Why do so many people care about TOP speed? We see about 30-35 mph on a strait-away where we ride and about 15 around corners, any faster than that, you are a donkey. Our trails are non-directional, traffic flows both ways. I would give anything for one of these donkeys to come that fast around a corner and see the front of my MV coming at 'em.hr>

I remember a guy on a dirt bike that turned a corner and saw the front of your MV ... lol Good thing he missed it!!!!!
top speed... I have had mine up to 57 on a paved road with more to go on stock tires.. wont do that again!!

Posted by: BlastFeem

Read Instigater's reply again he is talking about the 700 grizz... thats what he was comparing..

Posted by: BlastFeem

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Originally posted by: brpbear
I would get the Grizz for two reasons.One PS.two the Grizz is geared lower and doesn't lose as much power when you put larger tires on them or us it at higher altitude

I got 27 in tires on mine and only lost a little pwr out the hole other than that its fine... Put it in low and you cant even tell....

Posted by: BlastFeem

I would love to see the guys riding these KQ's that cant steer them or have all the problems with the steering.. Or better yet I like to ride one that is suppose to have the bad steering
I cant believe all the problems i have read about this on other websites. Maybe I got lucky with mine? Hell I think mine steers like pwr steering (other than when its in diff lock) but how often do you use
difflock? I dont, havnt really needed it. Going fast, up hill down hill, over rocks etc havnt had the bars ripped out of my hands yet.
Then again i have pythons for arms.. lol

Posted by: gohip2000

I have the grizzly 700. If I remember correctly from info I've gotten. the King quad and grizzly are pretty close, but the KQ has a slightly higher top speed. I just found out however that the grizzly 700 you can adjust the fuel management your self for a 16% power increase from the factory setting and you can pick up around 9-10 mph top speed. Both are supposed to be great quads. I was trying to decide between the grizzly and the KQ. I went for the more expensive Grizzly because it has more ground clearence and awsome engine braking. I was hesitant at first, but soon after it arived, that hesitation went away. Which ever you go with, I'm sure you'll be happy with the decision. Choose wich one seems to be grabbing your attention the most.

Posted by: gohip2000

So what is the reasons you are hearing that the grizzlies need to be pulled back?. I've taken mine in lots of mud and water up over the wheels and had no problems what so ever.

Posted by: TrailxRider

Since you dont seem to be getting much help..

I've never had a Grizzly, heard good things, but I do have a KQ, which is a GREAT machine, I am very happy with it. It ( stock, according to the manufacturer ) will go 68 MPH.

Posted by: TrailxRider

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Originally posted by: TrailxRider
Since you dont seem to be getting much help..

I've never had a Grizzly, heard good things, but I do have a KQ, which is a GREAT machine, I am very happy with it. It ( stock, according to the manufacturer ) will go 68 MPH.

Well, I am glad you offered your advice, since nobody seems to be weighing in on the topic. Don't look now, but this whole thread had been comparing the 2, which is what he asked!

No need to get all touchy, but look:

Thread Title: King Quad 700 vs Grizz 700, which is faster?????

He asked which is faster, I told him how fast the KQ went; I wasn't trying to offend anyone, chill.

Posted by: TrailxRider

No kidding, look at all those Suzuki bikes you had! lol

And yeah the Can-Am crushes both of them..

Posted by: TrailxRider

Do you OWN one? That 800 crushes the KQ lol.

Not bashing on the KQ, I LOVE that thing, but the 800 is a better bike all-around. Though I like the handling on the KQ better.

Posted by: TrailxRider

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Originally posted by: FITSofRAGE
from what ive seen of the can am 800. and this is from pulling the injured one out of the woods. the only good place for a can am. is on a farm. actually thats a bit harsh. from what ive seen. the can am does not hold a candle to a king quad. the king is most deffinetly king compared to a can am. the can am has a frame that looks like a toy. it may have a big powerful rotax. the best part of it. but again. the king would be a much better atv. in handling and toughness. i see u pay a huge price tag for a can am.. and im sure people have and love them. but after seeing one torn apart. i still say that just about any jap atv is built better. at least a king quad has a frame.. not just some flat piece of tin shaped into a c channel going out the front. with all its things hooked to it. like diff. and such.. it looked very chinsey.. and from how it folded. i would have to say it is as chinsey as it looks. and though it is not made of tin. just a figure of speach. any how. id take the king over the 800 any day.. and im sure that any one who has ridden. that really really looks at them. would also choose the jap atv.. im not a polaris man at all. but id take a polaris any day over the can am.. at least u know the polaris will not fold like this can am. instigaters polaris is quite beefy..

Um, We've had our Can-Am since we bought it, over a year ago. It's never had ONE problem. My dad rides it. I ride the KQ. One time I wasn't paying attention and rammed into the back of his quad while he was at a dead stop...His bike was flawless, mine needed new plastic/racks ( Though we were able to bend the plastics back into shape ). Not to bash the KQ, as I LOVE it; its a GREAT machine. But the Can-Am is definitely not a toy..

And we've never had any major problems with the KQ either for the record, besides oil; but we havnt check it out much yet..

Posted by: TrailxRider

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Originally posted by: FITSofRAGE
oh by the way. i see u have a blaster. got one of them too. a 2000. was my wifes. wich i have no wife any more.. thank god. i dont ride this one. but its been thru alot. and even though. they are a cheaper atv. and maybe some call them throw away. its been a tough little ride. got some go fast mods done to it. and it is one little wheely machine.. i dont know if i should sell it. or just give it to my soon to be x wife.. man i like that word. x wife. had two of them. never again.. now i have room for more toys.. and ride any time i want to.. may get lonely sometimes. but riding takes that away.. yes instigater you are welcome.. what did i say.. i must have been in a daze. or smelled too many exhaust fumes. did i say your quad was tough? did i really.. oh man what did i do? why why did i do this? welp guess u better bring an extra sub the next time we ride.. img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">hr>

yeah I know that its a free country. But I prefer to back up my reasons too. Its cool.

Anyways, yeah people say Blasters are " too small, not fast enough, youll grow out of it "..I HAVE to race something that small by age, and I'm 6'1" around 200 lbs, but I have no problem zipping around on that thing. It makes me mad when people say how they are too slow or too small or something, and most of them have probably never rode one. And yeah, they're great with wheelies. They're 3rd only to Honda 300/400 ex's. But the light weight overall design & the nice-sized powerband makes it very very easy to wheelie. lol.

You seem like a pretty cool guy. Most people would keep arguing no matter what either person says ( and me being the same way I would probably do it too LOL ).

Posted by: TrailxRider

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Originally posted by: FITSofRAGE
im not arguing. i just voice my opinion like everyone else does on here. like i say. there like a holes. we all have them. some good. some bad.. but we all have them no matter what. ill ride with any one. i dont care what any one has. we all are doing the same thing. headed for the same goal. we all love to ride. and thats the bottom line. we all are in this to fullfill our needs. and thats doing what we love..ride.as u can see in my name. guess it fits me. im a bit different. but not bad. and this weekend. ill be taking out some fits of rage during a hare scramble this weekend.. i think im going to run my new 07 grizzo. should be better then the 03. but the o3 has gotton me some 1st and 2nd place trophies. alot of fun. ive got a sickness that just wont go away.. but thats ok.. SEMPER FI CARRY ONhr>

I know I was saying that you weren't arguing. Lol. Yeah I'm the same way, I'll ride with anybody, I just like to ride. ( Though there are brands that I will NOT buy lol ) Thats cool, what state do you live in? And what league you race in?

Posted by: TrailxRider

Hey, I'm good.

Where exactly you live, and ride at? We may have ridden together before.

Posted by: TrailxRider

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Originally posted by: TrailxRider
Hey, I'm good.

Where exactly you live, and ride at? We may have ridden together before.

I have a place in Pittsburgh, but ride in crawford county area, near meadville, pa

Hmm. Can't say I've ridden there. I've ridden tons of different poker runs, Marienville, Bedford, Ashland, and a ton of other places.

Posted by: TrailxRider

I think he will be happy with either one he gets. But I think looking at the specs would probably determine which one you want. They both are obviously great bikes, but its all about what YOU want it for. So take a look.

Look at the specs:

Grizzly:

Type 686cc liquid-cooled w/fan, SOHC four-stroke single; 4-valve
Bore x Stroke 102mm x 84mm
Compression Ratio 9.2:1
Carburetion Yamaha Fuel Injection (YFI), 44mm
Ignition 32 Bit ECU
Starting System Electric
Transmission Yamaha Ultramatic? V-belt/H, L, N, R, P
Engine Braking All wheel
Drive Train Yamaha On-Command? pushbutton 3-way locking differential, 2WD, 4WD, locked 4WD; shaft
Chassis
Suspension/Front Independent double wishbone, 7.1? travel w/5-way preload adjustment
Suspension/Rear Independent double wishbone, 9.5? travel w/5-way preload adjustment
Brakes/Front Dual hydraulic disc
Brakes/Rear Dual hydraulic disc
Tires/Front AT25 x 8-12 w/aluminum wheels
Tires/Rear AT25 x 10-12 w/aluminum wheels
Dimensions
L x W x H 81.3" x 46.5" x 48.8"
Seat Height 35.6"
Wheelbase 49.2"
Turning Radius 126"
Ground Clearance 11.8"
Fuel Capacity 5.3 gal.
Dry Weight 600 lb.
Rack Capacity 99 lb. front/187 lb. rear
Towing Capacity 1212 lb.
Other
Instrumentation Digital LCD multifunction display: speedometer, odometer, dual trip, hour meter, clock, fuel, gear position
Lighting Dual 35W Halogen multireflector headlights & 21/5W brake light

KQ:

Engine: 695cc, DOHC, four-stroke, single cylinder, liquid-cooled
Bore Stroke: 102.0 X 85.0mm
Compression Ratio: 10.0:1
Fuel System: Fuel Injection
Lubrication: Wet sump
Ignition: CDI
Transmission: V-belt CVT automatic with high/low range sub-transmission, 2WD/4WD/4WD front differential lock
Final Drive: Shaft drive
Overall Length: 2120mm (83.5 in.)
Overall Width: 1210mm (47.6 in.)
Overall Height: 1220mm (48.0 in.)
Seat Height: 860mm (33.9 in.)
Ground Clearance: 260mm (10.2 in.)
Wheelbase: 1280mm (50.4 in.)
Dry Weight: 272kg (602 lbs.)
Suspension Front: Independent, double A-arm, oil-damped, five preload settings
Suspension Rear: Independent, double A-Arm oil-damped, five preload settings
Brakes Front: Dual hydraulic disc
Brakes Rear: Sealed hydraulic disc
Tires Front: AT 25 x 8-12
Tires Rear: AT 25 x 10-12
Fuel Tank Capacity: 17.5 liter (4.6 gal.)
Color: Black, Green, Red

They're VERY similar. I personally would go with another KQ, just like a lot of people would say that they would get another Grizzly. It's up to your personal preference. Either one will be a great choice.

Hope this helps

Posted by: TrailxRider

Thanks. All-in-all ATVs just come down to preference. Anything can be made faster;Anything can be made easier to steer; Etc.

Just depends on your preference. I personally did not pick out my KQ, my dad did, as he rode it before we had the Outty. Now he rides the Outty, and I ride the KQ. I love this bike. I have never rode the Grizzly, but I'm 99.5% sure he checked out the Grizzly when he looked at all of them. He also looked at the BF. But all-in-all, I love my KQ, just like people love their Grizzlys, and their BF's, and their Recons. It's just preference, in the long run. I think he will be happy with either bike.

P.S. pick the KQ! lol.

Posted by: TrailxRider

Weird how everyone has a different say in which bike would win. I guess the world will never know which is better. Lol.

Then again people always says they had problems with KQs..I never have. We either got lucky with the years we bought our quads, or we take good care of them ( we do. )..Because none of ours have had any problems. =\

Posted by: TrailxRider

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Originally posted by: FITSofRAGE
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Originally posted by: brpbear
The Grizz will out perform the king quad but when it is compared to the 650 and 800 outty the outtys eat bears for lunch.

again. were talking flat out power. drag race strait line.. u can have all that power. but again will the big power out run a rider thru the woods on a grizzly or king quad. i highly dought it. the rider is the major factor here. they can eat up bear all day long in a straight line. now throw in some tight woods. jumps. corners. and lets see who eats what

oh and i would not be so sure that a grizz will just eat up a kq stock to stock. boht my buddys king quads run really really good. weve never raced. but u can tell from riding them they run really strong.. but again. we are usually hauling a$$ thru the woods.

You're referring to the grizzly/KQ to the Outty, right?

If you are..You're crazy. Those Outtys will smoke anything lol. Trust me. =|

Posted by: TrailxRider

Well I ride with my dad every time I ride one, so I have first hand experience with the two of them in the woods. I've never drag raced him though. I know for a fact that he has no problem keeping up with me when I lead, nor do I have a problem with him.

I'm not saying the KQ or the Grizzly are weak..I said earlier. I love my KQ; but the Outty is another whole level of power. Its like taking a Blaster vs. a Banshee..lol

Posted by: TrailxRider

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Originally posted by: brpbear
nullI know one place the Grizz can't stay with the outty thats in the snow at 7000ft.

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Posted by: TrailxRider

Yeah, there's always something you can add to make it a better machine.. Though having a great machine to start with makes it easier! LOL

Posted by: TrailxRider

I found myself saying that to myself many times.

I feel the EXACT way. It's never jerked out of my arms. Ever. Except one time it did, I hit a log..err..well tree..but I think that was on my 250 ex anyways.. lol.

I'd like to ride one of them too...

Posted by: TrailxRider

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Originally posted by: Toyeboy
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Originally posted by: BlastFeem
I would love to see the guys riding these KQ's that cant steer them or have all the problems with the steering.. Or better yet I like to ride one that is suppose to have the bad steering
I cant believe all the problems i have read about this on other websites. Maybe I got lucky with mine? Hell I think mine steers like pwr steering (other than when its in diff lock) but how often do you use
difflock? I dont, havnt really needed it. Going fast, up hill down hill, over rocks etc havnt had the bars ripped out of my hands yet.
Then again i have pythons for arms.. lol

I know what you mean, the King steers very easy, which is easier on the arms and shoulders. The only problem I've had with the steering is the fact that it feels a bit twichy in comparison to my Polaris, but it's not as much of a problem as some have made it out to be. As for the handlebars getting jerked out, I haven't had this occur, I personally think that this is caused more from a combination of unusually rough terrain and maybe rider error going to fast for the type of terrain they're driving on. You can't expect the handlebars of anything without power steering to not move when you snag a log or rock, people need to use caution when going over uneven rough terrain.

Yeah, anyone who drives over a log or large rock of some sort, and gets the bars jerked ( which I think most people exaggerate over anyways ), and then complains about it, needs to step off the ATV.

Posted by: Outback31

Hey Tank, Go with the Grizz. Proven reliability for years. That was my 1st choice but could not pass up the deal that I got on my 07 500 LE. Remember top speed isn't everything unless you are going to be riding on the salt flats.

Posted by: booch1

clocked my 06 660 grizz at 72 mph on mygps 6mph faster than my buddies kq can only imagine how much faster the 700 grizz is

Posted by: Hunter009

I respect the grizz but my KQ just handles so nicely. It feels like I am muddign in atruck and not on a quad.

I loved riding my buddies Grizzley but I will always love my King Quad hands down.

Posted by: Eisel34

Buy the Grizzly if u got the extra money buy the ducks buddy has it I have king his looks like the day he bought it Ducks plastic is tough to scratch and if u do u cant see it. And as far as speed I can only dream of keeping up with him both have pipes and he eats my king up. His is a 660 can only imagine what the 700 with power steering is like . Any KQ owners need help with my plastic cant keep it on the quad those 2.00 plugs are killing me

Posted by: Eisel34

U can sum it up real easily. They are equal mattters which name u want on the side My 05 King Rides the same as buddies 06 Griz he may get me in the start by a few quad lengths on a dirt road threw the woods we r the same.. If u want to conpare look at the Can am 800 will eat both up and ride twice as nice. Sorry I did not buy can am even though price threw the roof for one. Suzuki in my heart that why I bought the king

Posted by: Eisel34

As a 05 King and buddy as 05 Grizzly I would say go for the Grizzly with the power Steering as long as your dont ride in water. Buddies Grizzly has been pulled back every trip to Hatfield Mccoy. And since we been talking to people all the grizzs have that problem we keep hearing different reasons. As far as how fast I would not worry about that they are about equal he gets me a little if you are looking for fastest for some odd reason I guess you ride on dirt roads go with the renegade other buddy has outlander 650 and he runs away from us

Posted by: kickervr91

I have an 07 king 700 and wouldnt trade it for a grizzly 700. My buddy has the new one with eps it steers so lightly that it actually makes it feel out of control. I guess its alright if you are old and weak but for me i dont see the need. One place top speed comes in handy is when you are running from the police which i have had to do several times and I will leave my buddy in the dust. He has acceleration but i have top end. other than that i dont usually go much faster thatn 40mph here and there. But i am young and like to travel fast lol.

Posted by: kickervr91

Outlanders are about $9,700 so I dont see how you get a king and a vdi being the same price. A king is about $7,000 plus a $500 vdi, you save about $2,000 a better deal if you ask me. That and there are a lot more suzuki dealers around than can-am.

Posted by: gordie580

The griz 700 top speed is anywhere from 64-68mph. I have ran 3 different ones and the fastest was 68 down hill. The king qaud not even broken in was at 72 mph. I have been out ran by the KQ everytime, the griz is a bit faster at start