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Posted by: garyc660R
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Originally posted by: raidermike67
You mean the Can-Am duel where they PURPOSELY ran the sp800 into the side of the mud bog to slow it down? You mean the same Can-Am duel that they put the sp800 in the wrong range (which was obvious from the video) for the sled pull? You mean the same Can-Am duel where they kept showing different views of the sled pull (sometimes with the sp800 lights on and sometimes off) kind of like they took different runs and combined them to make the Can-Am's look better? You mean the same Can-Am duel that they would not use the Polaris in the 4X4 part of the duel. You mean the same Can-Am duel that had NOBODY that was not bias in the comparison. OH...... OK.....Just asking if we were talking about the same duel. >>>>>>>>>>>>Someone's a bit oversensitive it seems. LOL.......get over it.
Oversensitive? Looks like he has some good points there.
Posted by: LTZ
I think it's rediculous. The Japanese CEO's are like 90 years old and have probably never even sat on one of the Ute's they manufacture. Polaris knows damn well that nobody will show and then they'll say " see we challenged them all and they were all scared, WE WIN".
Posted by: Scootergptx
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Originally posted by: CaptainQuint
They never seriously expected anyone to accept this challenge. I'd say this has probably accomplished all it was meant to - get people talking and generate publicity and buzz in the ATV community. It's marketing 101 for Pete's sake. Granted, Polaris is trying to be a bit avant-garde in a professional wrestling sort of way, but it was hatched in some marketing research session. It's also pretty obvious with the conditions layed out in the contract they don't seriously expect any manufacturer to pick up the gauntlet so to speak.
Exactly! Look how many threads on this site alone this has created. All goes back to the saying, "There is no such thing as bad publicity."
Posted by: twentycharacters
Agree to waive any right to compensation for participating in this event and for appearing in any Polaris advertising about this event.
? Acknowledge that your name and your company?s name and likeness may be used to the extent that you are filmed at this event by signing the enclosed
Participant Release.
? Acknowledge and agree that anyone accompanying you must sign the Observer Release before they will be admitted to or permitted to observe The Duel.
? Acknowledge that Polaris/McKinney have the right to use the results of this event for promotional purposes.
? Agree that Polaris has the exclusive right to record the event, and the exclusive right to any and all recorded audio or video footage of the event. Polaris
shall not be responsible for how participation in The Duel impacts competitor business.
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I would not agree to this. Polaris wants to have exclusive rights to everything, using their competitiors to their advantage WHILE their competitors WAIVE their rights to ANYthing. Unfair terms. Polaris cant have it both ways. If they win- fine publish it- unbiased. If the competitors win, allow them to have rights to that and publish it -UNBIASED. Isnt that what the polaris CEO really wants - to settle things once and for all? if he is imposing the waiving of rights for the other OEMS, screw it - its fishy already.
Besides, wasnt this already done via the Can-am Challenge? Is Polaris running scared and trying to copy this? In the Ute area, which i acknowledge im no 100% expert, but i think the CAN-AM Challenge already showed them and some other OEMS up a little and did more for CAN-AM than this duel will do for Polaris. Its a waste of time.
Posted by: CaptainQuint
They never seriously expected anyone to accept this challenge. I'd say this has probably accomplished all it was meant to - get people talking and generate publicity and buzz in the ATV community. It's marketing 101 for Pete's sake. Granted, Polaris is trying to be a bit avant-garde in a professional wrestling sort of way, but it was hatched in some marketing research session. It's also pretty obvious with the conditions layed out in the contract they don't seriously expect any manufacturer to pick up the gauntlet so to speak.
Posted by: zorro700
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Originally posted by: twentycharacters
Agree to waive any right to compensation for participating in this event and for appearing in any Polaris advertising about this event.
? Acknowledge that your name and your company?s name and likeness may be used to the extent that you are filmed at this event by signing the enclosed
Participant Release.
? Acknowledge and agree that anyone accompanying you must sign the Observer Release before they will be admitted to or permitted to observe The Duel.
? Acknowledge that Polaris/McKinney have the right to use the results of this event for promotional purposes.
? Agree that Polaris has the exclusive right to record the event, and the exclusive right to any and all recorded audio or video footage of the event. Polaris
shall not be responsible for how participation in The Duel impacts competitor business.
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I would not agree to this. Polaris wants to have exclusive rights to everything, using their competitiors to their advantage WHILE their competitors WAIVE their rights to ANYthing. Unfair terms. Polaris cant have it both ways. If they win- fine publish it- unbiased. If the competitors win, allow them to have rights to that and publish it -UNBIASED. Isnt that what the polaris CEO really wants - to settle things once and for all? if he is imposing the waiving of rights for the other OEMS, screw it - its fishy already.
Besides, wasnt this already done via the Can-am Challenge? Is Polaris running scared and trying to copy this? In the Ute area, which i acknowledge im no 100% expert, but i think the CAN-AM Challenge already showed them and some other OEMS up a little and did more for CAN-AM than this duel will do for Polaris. Its a waste of time.
You mean the Can-Am duel where they PURPOSELY ran the sp800 into the side of the mud bog to slow it down? You mean the same Can-Am duel that they put the sp800 in the wrong range (which was obvious from the video) for the sled pull? You mean the same Can-Am duel where they kept showing different views of the sled pull (sometimes with the sp800 lights on and sometimes off) kind of like they took different runs and combined them to make the Can-Am's look better? You mean the same Can-Am duel that they would not use the Polaris in the 4X4 part of the duel. You mean the same Can-Am duel that had NOBODY that was not bias in the comparison. OH...... OK.....Just asking if we were talking about the same duel.
Posted by: zorro700
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Originally posted by: v2rider
Well Duh, Polaris wouldnt run a campaign showing a drag race with a can-am, would it?
Your right, in all fairness that should be put in.
Posted by: zorro700
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Originally posted by: raidermike67
Well I think the idea of challenging the actual CEO's is a joke IMO. This is supposed to be about the machines not the men behind them. I know zero about any of them but if some are fairly old then is this really even fair? I just have his image of the Honda CEO being this 67 year old little Japanese guy who gets this envelope and just laughs at it.
Besides, only POLARIS CLAIMS to make the TOUGHEST ATV's. I guess with an extra couple hundred pounds of steel added to their frames, they MIGHT be right about that but good grief, an 800 lb ATV is a bit much.
Wanna play tug-o-war?
Posted by: zorro700
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Originally posted by: raidermike67
Wanna play tug-o-war?
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Hmmmmmmm......sure, bring it on! Although I'm not sure what this proves and in all my trail riding days I've never found this to be something that has occured to me. This something like a tractor pull?
"in all my trail riding days" hmmmmmmmmmmm...........believe it or not some of us paid the extra for 4X4 so we could use them for work. I use mine a lot for plowing and pulling and unless you want to strap a couple 100# bags of grain to your 800 (which YOU suggested is how much extra useless weight is on a Polaris) I'm going to out work your rocketship everyday of the week and twice on sunday. Now has it occured to you? Or do you need what a 4X4 is meant for spelled out more clearly?
Posted by: oldturtle
I would say that competition between experienced rider with their own designed tires against less experienced riders on lighter outsourced tires is just a promotional gimick for Polaris. No other companies will even acknowledge this new advertising scheme probably dreamed up by some New York City ad executive.
The only way this is going to happen would be in pages of Quad Magazine where they might run some tow, haul, rough terrain tests with less emphasis on race performance during one of their regular open class shoot outs. And then the first thing they would do is swap tires anyway to 'level the playing field". They could then crown the new king of utes and it could be Polaris, AC, or even Honda Foreman depending on competition format.
Reminds me of when Lee Iacoca of Chrysler had the same need for publicity back in 80s.
Posted by: 4wheelerfred
we could alway let dirtwheels be the 3rd party! there trust worthy
Posted by: raidermike67
would not agree to this. Polaris wants to have exclusive rights to everything, using their competitiors to their advantage WHILE their competitors WAIVE their rights to ANYthing. Unfair terms. Polaris cant have it both ways. If they win- fine publish it- unbiased. If the competitors win, allow them to have rights to that and publish it -UNBIASED. Isnt that what the polaris CEO really wants - to settle things once and for all? if he is imposing the waiving of rights for the other OEMS, screw it - its fishy already.
Besides, wasnt this already done via the Can-am Challenge? Is Polaris running scared and trying to copy this? In the Ute area, which i acknowledge im no 100% expert, but i think the CAN-AM Challenge already showed them and some other OEMS up a little and did more for CAN-AM than this duel will do for Polaris. Its a waste of time.
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It's a JOKE! How old are the Honda and Suzuki CEO's? The terms of conditions are a joke as well......I doubt this packet will make it out of any legal department of any ATV manufacturer.
BOLD? ROFLMAO, this guy is a coward IMO. Make it a fair race with with riders picked by a third party, judge it by a third party and let a third party administer all the media formats.
This guy is only pulling this stunt cause he knows most probably won't accept then he can say "SEE, THEY HAVE SO LITTLE FAITH IN THEIR OWN MACHINES THEY DIDN'T EVEN ACCEPT THE OFFER"......
Posted by: raidermike67
You mean the Can-Am duel where they PURPOSELY ran the sp800 into the side of the mud bog to slow it down? You mean the same Can-Am duel that they put the sp800 in the wrong range (which was obvious from the video) for the sled pull? You mean the same Can-Am duel where they kept showing different views of the sled pull (sometimes with the sp800 lights on and sometimes off) kind of like they took different runs and combined them to make the Can-Am's look better? You mean the same Can-Am duel that they would not use the Polaris in the 4X4 part of the duel. You mean the same Can-Am duel that had NOBODY that was not bias in the comparison. OH...... OK.....Just asking if we were talking about the same duel.
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Someone's a bit oversensitive it seems. LOL.......get over it.
Posted by: raidermike67
Well I think the idea of challenging the actual CEO's is a joke IMO. This is supposed to be about the machines not the men behind them. I know zero about any of them but if some are fairly old then is this really even fair? I just have his image of the Honda CEO being this 67 year old little Japanese guy who gets this envelope and just laughs at it.
Besides, only POLARIS CLAIMS to make the TOUGHEST ATV's. I guess with an extra couple hundred pounds of steel added to their frames, they MIGHT be right about that but good grief, an 800 lb ATV is a bit much.
Posted by: raidermike67
Wanna play tug-o-war?
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Hmmmmmmm......sure, bring it on! Although I'm not sure what this proves and in all my trail riding days I've never found this to be something that has occured to me. This something like a tractor pull?
Posted by: raidermike67
I'm going to out work your rocketship everyday of the week and twice on sunday. Now has it occured to you? Or do you need what a 4X4 is meant for spelled out more clearly?
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Knock your bad self out with all that work. My ATV is for FUN! IF I wanted one for work I'd have bought a Honda Foreman or Rancher.
Tell me what a 4x4 is meant for, please, I've just dying to find out.
The great thing about the #150lb bag of sand I put on the back is I can remove it for when I'm having FUN!
Seems a bit silly for Polaris to declare a duel with utility vehicles designed for WORK yet I'm curious what their course will look like in Vegas? Suppose there will be a tug of war pit? Kinda hot for snow, so doubt there will be a snow plowing competition. They probably will have a mud hole so that should be interesting. Why no drag race? Just throw that #150lb bag of sand on the back to try and make it fair huh? Wonder if there will be any hill climbing contests? Doubful........
Posted by: raidermike67
Oversensitive? Looks like he has some good points there.
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He's entitled to his opinion. That video shows the different Outlander models also coming up short against some of the competition but in general the Outlanders held their own against even larger cc ATV's. The video has since been revised to show other competiton. IF it were rigged as the poster vaguely suggested wouldn't the Oultander models win every competition?
Posted by: raidermike67
The BRP video was verified by a third party and used "pro" riders, I like this because then you are comparing machines not drivers. And that's what the whole point is, isn't it? The Polaris CEO is claiming their machines are the best or is he claiming he is the best rider???
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Exactly, this SHOULD be about the machines and not the CEO's....Like I said, I bet Honda's CEO could give a rats arse. They are the most profitable automotive/motorcycle/small engine maker in the world and have produced HIGH quality machines for decades. Polaris claims to be the toughest, Honda claims to be the most reliable. When your 40 miles from camp and down a canyon, which would you prefer...the toughest or the most reliable? I'll take getting back home every time ANYDAY over which is the toughest.
Posted by: raidermike67
think it's rediculous. The Japanese CEO's are like 90 years old and have probably never even sat on one of the Ute's they manufacture. Polaris knows damn well that nobody will show and then they'll say " see we challenged them all and they were all scared, WE WIN".
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EXACTLY!
To make this a totally fair and unbiased event each manufacturer should donate ONE of their hand picked stock ATV's for this event and everything else should be handled by a third party paid equally by each manufacturer who also chooses the riders.
They should have 7 heats so each rider can compete on each machine. I also don't think they should be "pro" riders but average riders like those of us on this forum(I'll volunteer<G>
Posted by: raidermike67
HEY, lets organize our own?
They will have to put up this track anyway? Why can't a bunch of us show up and pay a fee to run it after the "duel" is over?
Should I send a registered letter to the CEO of Polaris and see if he will accept our challenge to let real men from the real world see what these machines are made of? Some of us might change our mind/opinions/attitude about other machines this way. LOL, anyone think he'll accept my offer?
Posted by: Dirtydude
CEO of Jap bikes?
I could see AC maybe answering, but I don't know anything about CEOs for Jap products (do they even speak english? )
Posted by: Dirtydude
I went to the duel thing and clicked all the links
seen the good and bad points for all the quads, except that they didn't let it show the good and bad for the polaris bike BR>
said my Grizz has wimpy tires and suspension, rofl I coulda told em that. who keeps stock tires?
wonder how bad it would hurt Polaris if they lost the duel to several Jap bikes? Someone on the blog said CAN-AM ceo was an awesome rider. Wonder if the Yamaha/Suzuki/Kawasaki guys have even ridden a quad?
Posted by: Dirtydude
I don't know if anyone would come with the rules Polaris has made....
They secured all the video,audio, and choose their own camera people, commentary people everything is Polaris controlled.
There is just too much to risk, specially if the other CEO's are crappy riders they'd be made a laughing stock
cut and paste from rules
TERMS OF ENGAGEMENT:
All invited CEOs/Presidents must agree to comply with the following terms to participate in The Duel:
? RSVP to The Duel by 5pm EST, 10/20/06.
? Confirm your approval and acceptance of the Facts & Terms of Engagement (this Addendum), The Duel (Addendum 2), and the third-party vendor
(Addendum 3) by signing those documents and delivering them, along with a signed Participant Release, to Tom Tiller by 5pm EST, 10/20/06.
? Identify your stock MY 2006 or MY 2007 ATV model currently being sold in dealerships for use in The Duel by 5pm EST, 10/20/06. See Addendum 3 for
details.
? Pay all travel expenses (both transportation and lodging) associated with your participation, including all travel costs for any people accompanying you.
? Agree that you may be accompanied by no more than 5 people, all from your company, and that those persons may only be on the track on event day if they
wear a track pass to be handed out during check-in. All other attendees are limited to stadium seating.
? Provide your own personal wardrobe/riding gear, which is void of logos other than the company you represent. Safety gear is mandatory (helmet, goggles,
chest protector, over-the-ankle-boots, gloves and any other standard safety equipment).
? For mechanical set-up prior to and repairs during The Duel, you may bring a company technician as part of the 5 allowable track attendees. Electronic
alterations are prohibited (e.g. electronic fuel injection). Once we confirm your competition models, we will supply a list of allowable tools. This will be
provided by 11/3/06.
? Agree to waive any right to compensation for participating in this event and for appearing in any Polaris advertising about this event.
? Acknowledge that your name and your company?s name and likeness may be used to the extent that you are filmed at this event by signing the enclosed
Participant Release.
? Acknowledge and agree that anyone accompanying you must sign the Observer Release before they will be admitted to or permitted to observe The Duel.
? Acknowledge that Polaris/McKinney have the right to use the results of this event for promotional purposes.
? Agree that Polaris has the exclusive right to record the event, and the exclusive right to any and all recorded audio or video footage of the event. Polaris
shall not be responsible for how participation in The Duel impacts competitor business.
? Polaris reserves the right to invite select dealers, press, salespeople or other attendees.
? While there will be limited seating, spectator entrance is free of charge.
other rules
? ProM will ensure that ATVs are set to manufacturer recommended specifications and no modifications are made to stock models as selected by competitive
CEOs.
so yes, everyone would have to use all stocker tires/wheels
Posted by: Steveo10
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Originally posted by: 4wheelerfred
we could alway let dirtwheels be the 3rd party! there trust worthyhr>
DW's... "And the winner is, Yamaha"
Posted by: James1701
With all the restrictions on the the camera and mike, I bet you that in the end even is the CEO's dont show, they will look like they are there. Or they will say they did not want to participate, but they used their machine for the test anyway.
Posted by: squeege
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Originally posted by: raidermike67
think it's rediculous. The Japanese CEO's are like 90 years old and have probably never even sat on one of the Ute's they manufacture. Polaris knows damn well that nobody will show and then they'll say " see we challenged them all and they were all scared, WE WIN".
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EXACTLY!
To make this a totally fair and unbiased event each manufacturer should donate ONE of their hand picked stock ATV's for this event and everything else should be handled by a third party paid equally by each manufacturer who also chooses the riders.
They should have 7 heats so each rider can compete on each machine. I also don't think they should be "pro" riders but average riders like those of us on this forum(I'll volunteer<G>
I am free........LOL!
Posted by: squeege
Then we can say " see we challenged them and they were scared"
Posted by: ncriderforks
I think its a pretty bold move to make such a challange as this. The site gives you the right to vote on the courses and obstacles that will have to be used in the challange. Who do you think will come out on top and in what catagory? If you have not seen the challange click on the Polaris "DUEL" banner Ad on the top of this site. They have even put tracking numbers on the packages so you can see that they are sent to the other CEO's
Posted by: ncriderforks
I can't blame polaris for wanting the rights for the video and audio. They are paying for the whole deal. The way I understand it, they are even paying for all the atv's being used. They have an independent company to do the purchase of the machines and everything. It is a utility battle. So the challanges are going to promote a utility atmosphere. I know a race is not involved but what does that have to do with utility?
Posted by: ncriderforks
I could see polaris to be at a disadvantage on tires. Yes, they do have great stock tires. But in an arena it's most likely gonna be on a hard packed surface. The 05,06 700 will actually lose in a pulling contest against an 04 model cause of the tires. The 04 had less aggressive tires and there is more rubber making contact with the ground. The new tires on them now are good in loose stuff but get less grip on hard surfaces. Guess it all depends on the type of track that is made up. Every tire, just like every atv has its shining moments
Posted by: ncriderforks
I'm sure AC will come. I'd be surprised to see other brands. Leave it to the Americans to stand up for what we believe in. Seems like in every other situation in the world everybody promices but we are the only ones to deliver. Now, to shake things up a bit, I'll bet Polaris out pulls AC in a pull sled or dead wieght pull. Don't get mad, just having fun (I was told that I was too unbias in another thread so I'm changing my reply for this one) How can we make a bet on a forum that don't cost anything? I ain't got no money and I'm just talking junk now for fun
Posted by: ncriderforks
I think pro riders would give a false impression of the whole challange. Most all of us in this forum have experience in riding atv's. I can't speak for everyone but I am nowhere close to be considered a "pro". The challanges that are being voted on don't seem to have the need for a pro rider. They are going to be using them as a work horse it seems for the most part and anyone who has some seat time should be able to do these challanges. Most of these CEO's I'm sure ride seeing that they are head of the companies. I would not say they are pro's by any means but I'm sure they can hold there own on the challanges that they will be participating in if they show up. The Can-am challange was done by that company for that company. No invites were sent and it wasn't judged by a third party. As far as the rights to the video and audio, if I were spending thousands of dollars on this event I would want the rights too. All the other companies have to do is pay for there travel and stay. I'm sure this can pave the way for alot more challanges from different companies.
Posted by: ncriderforks
Sounds like you seen the same video I seen. Polaris has been putting out videos like this for years now. Back when the grizzly 600 came out they had comparison videos. Every company does this showing there strong points. But to say the brp challange was a third party judge and all is abit strange. I have the dvd and it says in fine print that it is a publication of Outrange PUblications, media division. Polaris uses Medialoft. But all they do is film the action put on by the marketing crews for the companies. Most end up in dealer showrooms on tv's playing all day. Some are put on infomercials and sometimes you dee them stuck in magazines. I think brp makes a fine atv with great features. nobody doubts that. I'll bet this thing will be on tv or webcast or something, kinda hard to hide that on retakes od scenes.
Posted by: ncriderforks
Sounds like you seen the same video I seen. Polaris has been putting out videos like this for years now. Back when the grizzly 600 came out they had comparison videos. Every company does this showing there strong points. But to say the brp challange was a third party judge and all is abit strange. I have the dvd and it says in fine print that it is a publication of Outrange PUblications, media division. Polaris uses Medialoft. But all they do is film the action put on by the marketing crews for the companies. Most end up in dealer showrooms on tv's playing all day. Some are put on infomercials and sometimes you dee them stuck in magazines. I think brp makes a fine atv with great features. nobody doubts that. I'll bet this thing will be on tv or webcast or something, kinda hard to hide that on retakes od scenes.
Posted by: ncriderforks
When I watch a panthers game, At the end of the broadcast(if they are home) says that the rights to the program are owned by the panthers and the nfl. No replay w/o permission. But yet we see replays all over the sports shows. As long as the other companies get permission from polaris and do not alter the footage, then I'm sure they can use it. If yamaha out pulls ac then yamaha may use that footage. They just won't show the ones that beat the yamaha. Somebody has to have rights to it. If brp made this challange I would be all for it. And all of you who are brp fans would love it. So what's so bad about this setting aside the video rights some people complain about? People are complaining bout tires and everything else. This ain't nascar. If they were all built the same with a different brand name sticker on the side this test would be useless. The local Yamaha, suzuki dealership in town thinks it's great. And there biggest competition is Polaris.(in my area) They are even thinking of flying out to watch. They have commented that this is a great marketing event and hopes that there brands follow through with something of there own. Something should be done like this every year. Who cares who makes the challange.
Posted by: ncriderforks
I can't see atv's with a 600 pound limit. As a play toy I guess its ok but to work and use as a utility it won't handle as well. Hook up to a disc or cultivator and see how she pulls. The ride seems to be smoother too with the extra weight. It doesn;t get tossed around as easy. As log as the balance is good It doesn't bother me at all. And I've seen the 800 sportsman loaded with all the extras stand straight up with no problem. Oh yeah, My grandpa is 70 and has no trouble hanging with me and i'm 25. He rides one of those 800 pounders too. I'm not saying he shouldn't take it a little easy, but you all know how grandpa's are. You can't tell em nothing. Set in there ways.
Posted by: ncriderforks
If enough money was spent and enough news was spread about it then yes, I bet they would. Polaris did that several years ago against yamaha with the grizzly 600 vs the sportsman 500. Shootout was put on by a Dealership that sold both. CEO's didn't ride but a rep for each company came.
Posted by: v2rider
Why would they do this to themselves? Polaris is known for there comfortable, perfect trail riding machines. AC is half as comfortable on the trail, but was jacked up and given a differential lock, and made into a mud machine. I think Polaris and AC are going to go at it!!
Posted by: v2rider
Well Duh, Polaris wouldnt run a campaign showing a drag race with a can-am, would it?
Posted by: balgonieman
I would rather see them use pro riders, then this takes rider skill out of it. Because now if pol has the best rider and the rest can't ride to save their lives, well what does this prove?? That would'nt prove that Pol has the best machine, just the best rider on that day.
This "duel" will have NO credibility at all.
Posted by: balgonieman
All I'm saying I guess is that I want to see the bikes perform and not who has the best rider, who knows maybe some of these ceo's have no clue when it come to riding utility quads?
What does it really prove if I compare my Outlander 400 to my friends Grizz but only if his 10 year old son drives it, then I'll brag how bad I beat him through the mud etc, etc. The only thing this would prove is that I have much more experience than this 10 year old -- not that my 400 is bigger and badder than his 660.
The BRP video was verified by a third party and used "pro" riders, I like this because then you are comparing machines not drivers. And that's what the whole point is, isn't it? The Polaris CEO is claiming their machines are the best or is he claiming he is the best rider???
Posted by: SlyCulprit
I had an oppurtunity this weekend to ride a Polaris 800 and I have to admit it was a very plush ride. I was up in China Lake region of Maine with my cousin and his buddy who happens to own a Polaris dealership. The guy took offense to Calvin pissing on the Polaris logo on the back of my Brute. LOL... Anyway we swapped machines for 2 hours and I have to admit that the 800 was very smooth over a very bumpy trail... Especially comparing it the jarring ride of my Brute. Was a little disappointed in the power of the Polaris and my own Brute had to pull me out of 3 mudholes.... it wasn't just me either because on the return trip I had to pull him out while he was riding the Polaris. All and all it was a great machine and if I wasn't as aggressive of a rider as I tend to be, The Polaris would definitely get strong consideration, for now, I'll stay with the Brute.
As a side note I have also ridden the King Quad, The Grizz 700 and a Rincon 650 and from what I remember of those 3 the Polaris was easly a better choice than those 3.
Posted by: SlyCulprit
This may not be politically collect but... ROR Raugh out Roud
Posted by: SlyCulprit
I wouldn't think anyone keeps stock tires, but if you have to show up to the race with stocks and Polaris' stocks are 100 times better than yours, Polaris is gonna beat your a**
Posted by: BBR650
i wonder if can am is gonna bring an xt or non xt? that would be a stock tire difference.
