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Posted by: GE4x4
The shocks are not bad, but just a little to soft. They need stiffer springs.
Posted by: CaptainQuint
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Originally posted by: ncriderforks You can mount countless things in about 2 sec.
Who told you?
Posted by: Catterman
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Originally posted by: ncriderforks
Polaris offers all kinds of attachments for the rear and fron racks that just snap on. From boxes to gun scabbards, chainsaw holders, backrest, I can't remember them all.
Yes, it is like the MRP from Arctic Cat. That is where Polaris got the idea. However the Polaris system isn't as user friendly and sturdy due to those plastic racks. Both accessories are over priced though.
Posted by: Catterman
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Originally posted by: CaptainQuint
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Originally posted by: ncriderforks You can mount countless things in about 2 sec.
Who told you?
Not me, I only mount my wife and it takes me at least 2 minutes and 30 seconds
Posted by: 700vtwinman
LOL......ok, where ever this guy rides at that has a thong, I don't want to go. EWWWWU..........man oh man the things that go on these days....LOL.
BTW......isn't a thong suppost to do that? Ride up you???......LOL
Posted by: 700vtwinman
LOL......hopefully he wears his thong the right direction.
Posted by: 700vtwinman
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Originally posted by: J0NJON
I want to hear from the person who started the thread. What type of riding do you do? That has ALOT to do with what advice we'd give you.. Also i'll go ahead and tell you my opinion. And i may have said this before but i'll say it again..
I think Polaris has more going for them right now then anyone else. And here are a few reasons why..
1. The best/most plush ride in all of ATVing.. Simply outstanding.
2. Lock'n'Ride compatibility system (already mentioned)
3. Electronic Fuel Injection
4. Oldest/Most proven EFI ATV out there. The Sportsman700EFI has now in its 4th year of production and the bugs are worked out...
5. Most storage (by far)
6. True AWD ( i like Polaris' 4wd system the best, although MANY will disagree, but its a matter of opinion)
7. Best towing capacity
8. Dual Rear brake lights with rear work lights
9. Best stock tires available with some awesome stock rims
10. And now, if you get a 2007 you get Polaris' newest addition.. Active Decent Control (ADC) Its Polaris's new downhill 4wheel enging breaking and from what i hear, its great.
So anyway, i know personally that alot of other ATV's are better at certain things and each ATV kindof has its specific purpose, but if i were buying right now, i think i can honestly say that i'd go with the Polaris 700. Its the best selling 700cc class ATV ever so far, its proven, has unique features, and i've had absolutely zero problems with mine, and i've pushed it about as hard as it can be pushed. And the weight has definatly not been an issue, so dont let that scare you. I love mine.
Good luck with your decision, i hope i helped.
Yes you are correct with the Active Decent Control (ADC). However, getting the back up lights, the ADC, the 2.5 winch, the nice rims and nice tires you have to jump up to a deluxe package, which is about $1200 or more. This is what the dealer told me the other day when I called about a price on the pol800 X2. That is not to say it is a bad thing, because once you add nice tires, rims, cargo boxes, 2.5 winch and back up lights to another brand of atv, the price will be higher.
Posted by: montyh
i say BF650i or 650Bomb, but there can be a case made for any of those on your list. i think you could use any of them to keep up with any other.
monty
Posted by: raidermike67
The Outty 650 has execellent power and good handling, bad front suspension,>>>>>
Bad? Are you talking from personal experience? I adjusted my shocks and can hit whoops on trails with NO problem, soaks it up very well.
Posted by: raidermike67
Oh come on raidermike, you dont have to get so defensive whenever someone points out a bad point on your brand of quad. >>>>>>
Not getting defensive, he's just wrong is all.
Posted by: raidermike67
It's not like I'm bashing the Outty, just stating that their front suspension is less than perfect...OK??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Never said it was perfect, prob. no sport/ute is....I adjusted my shocks and there was a big difference......Not sure where the weak brake thing is coming from, slam on them and you almost go over the handlebars....Night and day difference from my Rincon, brakes and shocks for that matter. To say they have a "bad" front end/shocks is a pretty inaccurate statement IMO...could it be improved upon? Sure, what can't be?
Again we go back to people making statments based on what they've heard, been told or read somewhere.....I can only speak from first hand experience and this isn't my first Outlander so I know a bit of what I'm talking about. Absolutely people should be able to come here and get info. etc, but how accurate is "I hear from a guy who read somwhere the Outlander's have weak brakes"?? Give me a break.....
My "complaints" or area's of improvement for this quad would be:
Skid plates-I made my own
Better battery strap
Wish it were a bit lighter
Speedo should have a clock
Put the plastic tool kit back in the front area
Quick releases for the front and rear racks
A little bigger radiator, seems to shut on and off a lot but its still been pretty hot here
Wish it came in black
BRP should offer option which can make your quad unique, I heard A/C does something like this with it's plastics and designs/decals? I removed my racks and had to get a bit creative in covering up the holes and securing the front and rear covers.
Posted by: raidermike67
I didn't hear that from a guy, that was written in ATV magazine's last big bore shoot out... the 6 guys that test these ATV's for a living all said their Outty's brakes were sqeaking loudly and grinding by the end of their test. I'm pretty sure they gave the Outty's front suspension a 25 out of 60... much lower than the other 5 ATV's they tested.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So they said the front end was simply bad or inadequate? Squeeky brakes are normal on new Outlanders until they have been ridden for a while......They make an awful sound when wet.
There is a difference between bad/junk and something that could be better, night and day difference IMO.
How did the IRS compare to all the others? Junk as well?
Posted by: raidermike67
It's not a matter of being defensive but putting accurate INFO. out there. I'm not here bashing any brand.
Posted by: raidermike67
Thanks, but I'm actually going to go with 25" ITP Holeshot ATR's.......remember I'm not going for the mud or snow but they sure look nice.
Posted by: raidermike67
Bomb's are too ugly for me>>>>>>
At first I agreed, thought they looked like moon rovers. Take a look at my pix...I kinda made mine a bit unique to me.
Posted by: Steveo10
Good that you got a Sportsman 500... no offense to the sportsman 400, but my friend has 1, and it seems gutless tryin to turn those tires. It dont seem like the tire speed is all there.
Posted by: Steveo10
Wait til you get your CDI for your king, Toyeboy!
Posted by: DesertViper
Well since all of us own one of each of those, we'll be sure to only give you objective information Actually I only own the Grizzly 700, but have owned a Praire 650 and 700, Grizzly 660, Rincon, and a Sportsman before. The suspension on the new Grizzly 700 is only average, but everything else on the Grizzly 700 is outstanding. I love the engine and transmission, the handling, and all of the features. The Grizzlys ability to conquer tough terrain is amazing, and trails that shoud be technically difficult are effortless. It is easily the best all around ATV I have ever owned, and if I were still in the market for a big bore ATV, knowing what I do now about the Grizzly 700, I would make the same choice all over again. Good luck choosing an ATV.
DV
Posted by: DesertViper
LMAO!
Posted by: DesertViper
I wasn't laughing at you. It was the whole thong thing that made me bust out.
DV
Posted by: downeaster
'm with the DesertViper, and I've had atvs for 15 yrs now, and this new 700 Griz tops the cake. Buy something
else if you want, and then take a test ride on the new Griz, and then its too late.
Posted by: downeaster
From the way I see it is you should be wearing underwear and not thongs anyway. That could
be your problem.
Posted by: Toyeboy
JerBear525, IMO there's not a "best" ATV out there b/c EVERYONE isn't going to agree...If you want info which does what the best then I'd be able to tell you.
The Polaris 700 has the plushest ride, plows the best, tows the best...odd 4WD system not a full time 4wd selection, goes into 4wd when the rear wheels slip-----IMO not as good as real world limited slip 4wd with locker.
The KQ 700 has a great ride, very good handling, EFI,true front locker/4wd system, detuned severely though so it has disappointing low end power in stock form.
The Grizz 700 is very comparable to the KQ but it has better low end power b/c it isn't detuned plus it has power steering and true front locker/4wd. Power steering isn't proven though so....
The Outty 650 has execellent power and good handling, bad front suspension, odd front locker setup though, engages when it wants to why BRP and Polaris have to be different hear beats me b/c true 4wd with selectable front locker is better.
Posted by: Toyeboy
No not from personal experience, but I've heard it from several Outlander owners and magazine reviews, they all said the front shocks/suspension were just bad, and from pictures I've seen of the front shocks it'd have to agree with them.
Posted by: Toyeboy
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Originally posted by: raidermike67
Oh come on raidermike, you dont have to get so defensive whenever someone points out a bad point on your brand of quad. >>>>>>
Not getting defensive, he's just wrong is all.
The majority of magazine editors and owners I've heard say that the Outtlander 800/650 have a bad front suspension/and weak brakes, I'm not making this up.. what good would it do me???? This guy looking for an ATV deserves to know the Outty does have a few weak points...This is just what I've read and heard over the past year they've been out so there is some truth in this. It's not like I'm bashing the Outty, just stating that their front suspension is less than perfect...OK??
Posted by: Toyeboy
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but how accurate is "I hear from a guy who read somwhere the Outlander's have weak brakes"?? Give me a break.....
I didn't hear that from a guy, that was written in ATV magazine's last big bore shoot out... the 6 guys that test these ATV's for a living all said their Outty's brakes were sqeaking loudly and grinding by the end of their test. I'm pretty sure they gave the Outty's front suspension a 25 out of 60... much lower than the other 5 ATV's they tested.
Posted by: Toyeboy
The Sportsman 500's are very good ATV's that's for sure, very comfortable and exellent at plowing and towing...the 500 is Polaris' most reliable Sportsman b/c it uses the Fuji 500cc motor and it's proven, and they last a long time. I had an 04 400 and it used the 425cc Fuji and I put 2300 miles on that motor and it still ran very strong when I sold it...in fact it was the most reliable part of the ATV.
I know what you mean about people lieing about their ATV's...this is why I chose to educate myself about nearly every model out there, I pretty much know what beats what in a drag and the pros and cons of every big bore and I wouldn't lie about it b/c what good does that do??
I heard this one the other day and I had to lol -"I bought an Outty 800 and it doesn't go 100 mph what's the deal??"
Posted by: Toyeboy
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Good that you got a Sportsman 500... no offense to the sportsman 400, but my friend has 1, and it seems gutless tryin to turn those tires. It dont seem like the tire speed is all there.
Yes that's the thing I didn't like about the Sportsman 400 it felt really underpowered, to this day I still wish I had gotten at least the 500 high output, I've heard it's much more powerful than the 400...but this time I made sure I had enough power and went with a 700.
Posted by: JDQuadRider
I have a Grizzly 660 and it turns great. It's every bit as effortless as my Rubicon.
Posted by: 4FITTY
I own 2 Outty 800's and I agree the front shocks are the worst thing about the Outty. But I think the Outty is a very good machine, I also like the AC ALOT! Im sorry I dont think much of the PO PO. I have had great luck with yamamha's, and I have had very bad luck with kawisaki's (chassis SUCKS engine great)
Posted by: ncriderforks
I'm a sportman guy myself. You will get so many opinions on this. You are best to go ride them all and decide for yourself. Some people say the sportsman's feel too heavy. Some say the grizzly doesn't turn very well. The list can go on and on.
Posted by: ncriderforks
The 700 grizz has left me mixed feelings. Hurts your privates on rough trails. The seat design sucks. The power steering did not do a very good job on a hard packed surface. Asphault it felt like any other wheeler. The power is good but the overall feel I was not impressed with.
Posted by: ncriderforks
Laugh at me if you want, but it wasn't comfortable
Posted by: ncriderforks
Sounds alot like the lock-n-ride system that polaris has. You can mount countless thigs in about 2 sec.
Posted by: ncriderforks
Who told me bout what? The lock and ride? Polaris offers all kinds of attachments for the rear and fron racks that just snap on. From boxes to gun scabbards, chainsaw holders, backrest, I can't remember them all.
Posted by: ncriderforks
I just bought this weekend an 06 polaris 500 carb. I know its not the biggest and most powerful but I put some time on it and love it. I don't think I'd want anymore power. It didn't come with ebs but I'm use to a scambler anyway so that doesn't bother me. I've got front and rear ebs clutches new in the boxes but I love the take off. It will bring the front end nearly straight up with no problem. I may grab an 800 clutch and use it since that clutch won't give a loss on the bottom end but sometimes the ebs just almost gets in the way.(for my style of riding anyway. Yes, there are times when I wish I had it) I can just keep the throttle up just a little and the belt will stay engaged and hold back enough anyway. I've put several hours on all the new big bore and like was mentioned in other replys, they all have weak points and strong points. I am impressed at how Polaris now teaches a class to all the dealer sales people on the good and bad points of all brands. They have every brand for the dealers to ride and let them decide what they like and don't like on each machine. The hope is to educate the dealers on each brand so they won't fill a potential buyer's head full of lies just to get them to buy polaris. But at the same time give them good amo on the points where polaris shines at. I can bet that there isn't one person who has not had a sales person for any brand to lie between ther teeth about something just to get you to buy. I can't stand it. I had a guy tell me once that a Rubicon 500 would out pull a sportsman 500. The next week we had a sled pull at the county fair grounds and watched him get out pulled by a polaris magnum 325 stock!!!!! I ask him later why he told me that. He gave me a smart comment and walked off. All yeah, And a sportsman 450 is just as fast as a BF 750.(Different person) He failed to mention it was in the first 5 feet out the hole. Everybody hear can guess the rest of the story.
Posted by: v2rider
If your a rock climber, or outdoorsman (camp/fish/hunt) then i would go with AC. They are hard to beat with their speedrack system, and ground clearance. I can mount a cargo box, gun scabbard, ice auger, fishing poles, portable ice house, chainsaw,ect.... in seconds, and take it off just as fast.
Posted by: v2rider
LMAO!!!!!
Posted by: v2rider
Oh come on raidermike, you dont have to get so defensive whenever someone points out a bad point on your brand of quad. Oh wait, thats what you said to me once
Posted by: v2rider
Dont waste your breath Toyboy, the outty has zero problems, and everyone should own one. And if you want to be like them, you can buy a bigger bed, kick your wife out, buy a bag of strawberries and cool whip and sleep with your outty
Posted by: v2rider
he gets so offensive?????
Posted by: v2rider
hey raidermike, your quad looks pretty sweet with the outfit you got on it, now you should look at my pics, and picture those tires on your quad. That would take it to the next level
Posted by: RancherATCrazy
LMAO, this whole thread is a riot!
Posted by: JerBear525
Which is the best all around 700 class Otty 650 Grizz 700 Kq 700 Polaris 700? Any suggestions on Atv of the year?
Posted by: J0NJON
I want to hear from the person who started the thread. What type of riding do you do? That has ALOT to do with what advice we'd give you.. Also i'll go ahead and tell you my opinion. And i may have said this before but i'll say it again..
I think Polaris has more going for them right now then anyone else. And here are a few reasons why..
1. The best/most plush ride in all of ATVing.. Simply outstanding.
2. Lock'n'Ride compatibility system (already mentioned)
3. Electronic Fuel Injection
4. Oldest/Most proven EFI ATV out there. The Sportsman700EFI has now in its 4th year of production and the bugs are worked out...
5. Most storage (by far)
6. True AWD ( i like Polaris' 4wd system the best, although MANY will disagree, but its a matter of opinion)
7. Best towing capacity
8. Dual Rear brake lights with rear work lights
9. Best stock tires available with some awesome stock rims
10. And now, if you get a 2007 you get Polaris' newest addition.. Active Decent Control (ADC) Its Polaris's new downhill 4wheel enging breaking and from what i hear, its great.
So anyway, i know personally that alot of other ATV's are better at certain things and each ATV kindof has its specific purpose, but if i were buying right now, i think i can honestly say that i'd go with the Polaris 700. Its the best selling 700cc class ATV ever so far, its proven, has unique features, and i've had absolutely zero problems with mine, and i've pushed it about as hard as it can be pushed. And the weight has definatly not been an issue, so dont let that scare you. I love mine.
Good luck with your decision, i hope i helped.
Posted by: J0NJON
lol he gets so offensive hahaha.. Bomb's are too ugly for me
Posted by: 4x4utilityman
Hey, I like dem alls buts whats about de suspension on the IRS? Cool and very nice pics too.
Posted by: 4x4utilityman
I hate it when I go riding and my thong tightens up. Talk about singing high notes. Well, I fixed that, cause I bought a polaris. Now that I have a girls quad, it rides so much better that my thong doesn't ride me.
Posted by: crackerheath
I ride a stock kaw 650 brute force and i race and beat 300 lb 400's up sand hills and the only utillity quad to beat me is the 700 kaw prairie. I smoke the 750 bf and all the grizzlys they may be great in other applications but not up a steep sand hill.
the 700 prairie has the same motor as the kfx 700. the 800 outlander comes close and would probably beat me with the right rider.
I would have to say the 700 prairie would have to be my choice; allthough the 800 canam renagade is on my wishlist and would love to get some reports on the new power steering system on the grizzly
