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Posted by: action450s
Actually the opposite is true for plowing. In this case you WANT a tire that will dig to the hard surface for traction, you wont get enough traction in snow to push snow with the blade.
What you mentioned about flotation and staying on top of the snow applies to trail riding, where you are not towing , pushing or working, just traveling. In this case you want to stay on top and not have a tire that digs causing a high center.
You will see, if you try to tow a heavy load or push one, no matter what tire you have your going to dig a hole in deep snow. The difference when plowing is that you are travelling behind the blade which just got rid of the deep snow!!!
One of the Highlifter Outlaw tires would make a great snow tire, cant remember the model, but the tread block has a lot of sipes as opposed to a solid block. The more biting edges you have make a better snow tire. Interco has a new one out too, they advertise it for mud, snow and trail, looks to be a nice tire.
Posted by: RedGoblin
Believe it or not, the ITP Holeshot ATR is supposed to be very good in the snow. This is a tire with tread similar to that of the racing Holeshot tires, but in a bigger size for utilities. It will be great on every surface except for deep mud and like I said, according to multiple different reviews, is suprisingly great in the powder.
Posted by: CaptainQuint
My friend runs the radial ATRs on his KQ and they do remarkably well in the snow. They do well in everything. They do great in the snow and for plowing chores. Looking at them you wouldn't think they would but they really work well in the snow for some reason.
Not just good for just the snow either. They don't tear up the trails like the heavier lug tires. They are much easier on the turf and yard than the 589s he sometimes runs. They are easier to run on the gravel and pavement than the more aggressive tires. Of course being radials they handle way better than bias ply tires. He use to change them out for 589s for creek running but doesn't even do that as much anymore. They even handle the mud fairly well. Not in the same league with the 589s obviously but they still don't do half bad. He's looking into getting a set of the XTRs if he decides to keep the KQ.
Posted by: propnut
any radial is going to be an improvement, but the less aggressive treads will dig less (a good thing)
car tire you want to dig down to the pavement - different for ATVs except when plowing or light snow cover. So you want a tread that will penetrate soft of snow and float on crusty snow for all around usefulness.
The 489s are excellent all around inexpensive tire. You can't do too much better than a 589 for plowing, but that tire stinks when riding in deep snow - not a good all-around snow tire.
Radial with moderate tread, ATR or Wetlands radial. There may be others.
Posted by: propnut
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Actually the opposite is true for plowing. In this case you WANT a tire that will dig to the hard surface for traction, you wont get enough traction in snow to push snow with the blade.
exactly what I said, that's why I said a tire like the 589s would be great for plowing. They'd get right to the pavement. However, as you said - if you just scraped the pavement, why would you need that aggressive of a tire? You don't. These new radials have deep enough tread to get the job done, but not too aggressive. Aggressive treads will dig you in faster on trails, best all-around belongs to the radials
Augie, don't you have the PXTs? I don't thing you can do much better so why spend the extra cash?
Posted by: Wayback40
While doing some spring time, late May, riding in the mountians a few years ago I came across a long section of trail covered by snow. This was located in some dark timber. I was riding a Sportsman 500 at the time and was starting to sink a little to often in the soft early afternoon snow. I had been following the tracks of another ATV when I came to a creek crossing with about a three foot snow ledge on the other side. Damn if the other ATV's tracks didn't go up the snow ledge and continue up the trail. Considering the snow was soft I couldn't believe what I was seeing. The snow ledge wasn't very badly torn up either. No foot tracks in the snow from having to hook up a winch either. I knew I wouldn't be able to make it so I turned around. About an hour and a half later the guy on the other ATV came down the trail. He was on a newer Grizzly and had reversed all four of his tires/wheels, so he was using them in the oposite direction than what they were intended.
Posted by: Wayback40
Kodiak 660, Damn this is a small world sometimes. Obviously you impressed me with your riding. I'm doing pretty good. Maybe we'll have to hook up for a ride. Are you still over in WA? Did you hear of that guy named Tuttle that raped and stabbed his daughter last summer over here in Idaho? He had ditched his car about 200 yards downstream from where I usually camp on wonderful creek. He had been in custody about a month when I found his camp, which was a few hundred yards up the creek from where I usually camp. Luckily I didn't spend any time up there in July, when he was up there. If I had he could have easily killed me while I slept since the sound of the creek would have covered most noise he would have made. Nice thought huh? Take care,
Posted by: Wayback40
Kodiak 660, I checked out the photos. Just as I remembered it!
Maybe I can hook up with your group some day. Most of you guys ride on weekends though. I work graveyard four nights a week. My weekends don't start until 0830 on Sunday mornings. I'm thinking you guys would have a pretty good lead on me by then. At least maybe I'll run into you again on the trail. Take care,
Posted by: Wayback40
Kodiak 660, Sounds good, thanks!
Posted by: Kodiak660
The best tire hands down for the heavy Polaris in snow is the Goodyear rawhide MTR radial........rockymountainATV sells them for the best price I have seen.
A bunch of us run them and they work awsome.....these tires have a huge footprint and when aired down to 2psi will let you float across the snow when riding for fun......keep them aired up for plowing and they work great for that too.
Soft ride and great traction....they wear well too.
Posted by: Kodiak660
Wayback 40 that was me! Check out pics 9, 10, and 11 in my Gallery......I took those pics that same day.
It was on champion creek and you have a green 500.
How ya doing?
Posted by: Kodiak660
Yeah it is a small world.I am still in Wa but I want to move out your way soon........yes we need to hook up and ride.
I see you have a 700 now.......nice quad!
Too many bad things happened this past year in that small area of N Idaho.....I hope 2006 brings peace to the area.
A few of us meet and ride Wallace and CDA area alot.
In fact we visit in the "where to ride" section here under "spokane-N idaho area rides" (Or something close to that)
Its been great finding you in here.....lets keep in touch and ride in 06!
Posted by: Kodiak660
Next time I come up to CDA to ride I'll PM you here and let you know........9am on a sunday morning ride isnt too late for us.
Posted by: Augie
I have been playing in the snow with my new toy and thus far am extremely happy with it. My only want would be for a little more snow traction. I plowed my driveway the otherday (OK, I admit it, I scrapped the slush off it.) and had zero traction issues in AWD while pushing the snow, but I could not back out and turn around without holding the override button. Is there a tire that would suit me better than the Carlisle AT489's that came stock. Preferably a tire that won't break my piggy bank, sprain it maybe but not break it.
Posted by: Augie
Looking at those holeshot ATR's I can see why they would be good in snow. They don't look like they would clear as well which would allow for the snow on snow traction capabilites of your garden variety car snow tires give you.
Posted by: Augie
I thought about chains but I don't want to have to take them off when I go trail riding and will also tear the hell out of my truck bed when I am going to plow my uncles driveway 5 miles down the road.
Posted by: Augie
Good to know. I'm used to thinking in terms of needing something that can move a 6000lb truck around in the snow. I imagine the requirements would be different.
What about the supergrip superlites? Would they do me anygood?
Posted by: Augie
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Originally posted by: propnut
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Actually the opposite is true for plowing. In this case you WANT a tire that will dig to the hard surface for traction, you wont get enough traction in snow to push snow with the blade.
exactly what I said, that's why I said a tire like the 589s would be great for plowing. They'd get right to the pavement. However, as you said - if you just scraped the pavement, why would you need that aggressive of a tire? You don't. These new radials have deep enough tread to get the job done, but not too aggressive. Aggressive treads will dig you in faster on trails, best all-around belongs to the radials
Augie, don't you have the PXTs? I don't thing you can do much better so why spend the extra cash?
Nope the PXT's were an option on the SP400, if I had realized it I would've spent the extra $$$ for either a 500EFI or just the upgrade to my 400
Posted by: AKHappy
Chains would be the cheapest. They work good too.
