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Posted by: tomthetreeguy
Depending on the fiber that is used in the rope you might get a huge whip or none. The more stretch in the rope the more energy that is stored in the rope. Think of bungie cords on one end and solid rod on the other end of the spectrum. Each will stretch but the rod will stretch less before it breaks. The high density fibers used in fiber winch lines have very little stretch. They are expensive and more delicate than metal fiber ropes.
Many of the high density fiber ropes are pretty easy to splice. It would pay to copy the splicing instructions, reduce them and laminate the instructions. Stash them on your quad with a fid in case you need to fix a rope. Many of the fibers are too slippery for most knots. I'll bet dollars to donuts that there are very few readers here that know how to tie a triple fisherman's hitch. If not, google it and know how to tie it.
Posted by: LDouglasLJr
Hey there, I love the syn rope on my winch. For mine I use the hawse fairlead and the "rope" has held up great so far. And I use my winch pretty much all the time. Lately I've been moving gravel with my blade so it's been up and down a lot lately. Plus I've been getitng rid of some trouble some trees and the "rope" has pulled a lot of trees over after having them cut through the majority of the way. I really like the "rope", a lot better the the steel cable as I was tired of slicing my hand up when I wouldn't notice a stray band sticking out. If you do get it I think you'll be quite pleased with it's performance.
Posted by: LDouglasLJr
I use the Amsteel-Blue winch cable. It has a much higher breaking strength of 5400lbs for a 3/16" where a 3/16" for a steel cable is 4200lbs. Warn does recommend not using a Kevlar rope on a winch. Their winches utilizes a brake located inside the drum. This brake generates heat and the Kevlar rope cannot help to dissipate the heat where a tradational steel cable will. So the heat it generates could critically damage the rope. The Amsteel rope I use is made from HMPE (High Modulus Polyethylene) which I do not think is a Kevlar material.
Posted by: LDouglasLJr
I bought mine off of eBay as I got it cheaper off of eBay at that point in time now the price is pretty close. I found a good place www.okoffroad.com where they have it for 3/16"x50' with shipping and all for $47.95 plus they have the aluminum hawse fairlead for $58.90 for shipping. I got my hawse from them and it's been great.
Posted by: LDouglasLJr
My only guess at that would be the rollers are made of iron and thus tend to have some roughness to them where the aluminum hawses are extemely smooth. Also I think with the rollers it would be possible on an exteme angle pull that maybe the rope would slip between the rollers and possibly cut the rope causing injury or worse. But again that's just my guess as I've done some searches and not found much else of an answer.
Posted by: LDouglasLJr
You do need to remember when using the rope that it is not solid as a steel cable would be. The rope will compress and could slide in between the rollers. And you would be surprised in the weight difference in the roller verus the hawse. I know I was when I swithed mine out. As for the roller fairlead they are I believe zinc coated and made from steel. Here is a url I found last night while surfing at home. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PR-fairlead/ it shows what happened to this guys roller while using the syn rope on it. If I happen across any others about rollers and rope I'll let you guys know.
Posted by: Thunderbolt
When I bought my warn winch I thought I read that you had to use an aluminum hawse fairlead and that the rope wasn't for actual winching. I thought it said for the bucket or the plow only.
I was looking at something different than the rope you guys are talking about. I may look into the rope myself.
Posted by: Thunderbolt
Why do they use a hawse fairlead instead of a roller ?? I realize that a new roller would have to be used when switching to the rope and I would think a roller would be better no matter what you use. Anyone know why they don't reccomend a roller ??
Posted by: 4xZuk
Has anyone bought/tried the new syn. winch rope? My cable is starting to show a little wear-a couple of small kinks, etc., and I am considering "the rope". Also, do you have to use a hawse fairlead, or will a roller work? Thanks.
Posted by: 4xZuk
Thanks for the info. We are going to H/M in Oct. and I think the rope will be on my winch when we head out.
Posted by: 4xZuk
A buddy of mine is into rock crawling with his Jeep. He uses a syn cable, although it's huge, he hasn't had any failure(s). I saw the syn. cable in one of the ATV mags, and got to thinking about replacing my wire. The 4WD mag.s seem to be united w/ praise. I was just wondering about performance w/ ATV's. I've also heard that when/if failure does occur, there is no "whiplash" effect. The "rope" drops straight down. THis struck me as odd, because I've seem/been party to ski ropes snapping and whipping over the front of the boat. But, I guess different construction(s) has a different result. Where'd you get that Amsteel cable?
Posted by: 4xZuk
I agree w/ Thunder. A roller is a roller. I don't think my R/f is made from Iron. It appears to be stainless tubing. What's the deal w/ this? An aluminum H/f would be a weight savings, but...............
