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Posted by: hammer4
Hatchet, Leather Gloves(handling winching duties if needed), compass, H2O, Toolkit, Matches, Quick Energy Snacks, etc. I'm sure everyone else out there will have alot of interesting suggestions as well!
Posted by: Kawi650
Ok now I don't take as much as I used too.... I use to take: chainsaw, gas for bike and saw and bar oil, propane touch (for starting fires and thawing out stuff), a stove top for the propane cylinder, junor splitting mall, Hammer nails , tarps, surival / winter sleeping bag, cell phone and adaptor, axe, rope, tow rope, fishing rod and stuff, extra clothes/ gloves etc., Dish gloves, tube for tire with tire repair kit air compressor, extra valve stem (You should see the look on some's face after they loose a valve stem and you pull an extra one out of you box) tire goop, the thick bungie strap, have used one for plugging massive tire holes, Lighter, loc de icer, Ice scraper for cleaning floorboards, peanut butter and other food items, gps, wire, even a small portable dc heater, fold up shovel, kidney belt and first aid kits, Flagging tape, 4 liters of oil, extra straps, come alongs, complete line of tools including a ratchet kit, extra new set of spark plugs, Electical tape and duck tape, DC flashlight, maps, winch tools, 4 liter bucket for water (which I use in the summer for cooling radiatiors), shortwave radio, flares, fold up lawnchair, hiking shoes, Chest waders ( I use these in nasty weather), Extra key to bike, knives, Pipe clamps and hoses, nuts and bolts ... just to list a few, I know I had more. Everything fit in a box that I made with dimentions of 6 feet by 3 feet by 3 feet high.
Posted by: Kawi650
No I don't ride hondas, I ride a kawi but when I'm bikeing I want to be able to look after everyone. On the weekend I was moving some of my old bikeing stuff and found an old polaris belt, (I use to have one with me and I didn't even own a polaris) a set of wheel bearings for a honda, even some old army food rations... If someone want's the food it was only in my box for about 5 years LOL
Posted by: Kawi650
Ok there was homemade box made out of 3/4 plywood 6 feet by 3 feet by 3 feet high on back rack, there was a 2 by 4x3 up front and small coolers fasten to the front fenders covering the warning lables go, 2 gas jugs on the very back.
Posted by: Raptoryfn660r
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Originally posted by: Specta
Call it "over-kill".
Tire plugs
Tire plug kit
CO2 cartridges
Tire gauge
Spark plug
Extra ign. key
Valve stem tool
Bungee cords
Bungee net
Tie down (ratchet)
Gloves (riding)
Gloves (surgical)
Gloves (winter)
Ski masks
Zip ties
Electrical tape
Duck tape
Space blankets (2)
Survival candles
Weatherproof matches
Rain slickers
First aide kit (complete)
First aide book
Tweezers
Nail clippers
Visine
Blistex
Afrin
Sun-block
Flash light
Batteries
Fuses
Tow strap
Come-along
Compass
Shovel
Knife
Plastic tarps
Wet ones
WD-40
Fire starters
Wood shims for kindling (line bottom of trunk with them)
Fire extinguishers
(Aerosol can style)
Sierra saw
Hand soap
Surgical masks (dust)
1 qt oil
Coolers (two six-pack size coolers, 1 for food, 1 for frozen water bottles and drinks)
Tooth picks
Maps
FRS radios
Insect repellent
Light sticks
Bio toilet paper
5 ft&39; 3/8” fuel line (siphon)
Loud whistle
Replacement lens for goggles
Ice sox
Hand warmers
Toe warmers
Foot warmers
Sweatshirt & pants
Bathroom hand towels (good for packing)
Plastic garbage bags
Binoculars
S&W Hammer-less 357 Mag (not in trunk)
100 rounds Hydro-shock ammo
Hope this helps.
That is a list I should printBR>
Thanks
Posted by: Syclone
What do you put all your gear in?
Pictures would be great!
They would give me an idea about what I am looking for in a box for my Sportsman.
Posted by: Syclone
BigBamaBoy,
We've had this to happen on a 450 Honda with 27s about 4 miles from the nearest road.
After 2 cans of Fix-A-Flat and a lot of praying, it finally took.
Later I learned (I think it was in this forum) that you can take a rope, wrap the rope around the tire, make a knot in the rope and pull it as tight as you can. Next, add the air and it should hold the bead.
I've not tried this but it is a good theory since pressure of the rope on the tire would push the beads back to the rim.
If any one else has a suggestion, please let us know.
Later
Posted by: Syclone
Thanks for the info ReconRanger.
I've seen the CO2 inflation kits at Cabela's and Bass Pro Shop, but I never put much stock into them because I didn't know if they really worked that good. After seeing your post, I'll have to invest in one.
The Fix-A-Flat is a good quick fix when you're out in the middle on nowhere but it leaves that liquid rubber in the tire and on the wheel. After it hardens, it can make the tire feel out of balance at higher speeds. Then you have to go through an act of congress to get that mess out!
Thanks again.
Later
Posted by: Specta
Call it "over-kill". We have helped more people than we have our selves. The bath towels and frozen water bottles (instaed of ice, they don't melt and make a mess) came in handy when we came upon a bad crash, they helped the rider that was bleeding badly. The first aid kit seems to get used quite a bit. We are surprised what we have used so far. Desposable rain slickers (about $1.50@ should come with every ATV) are a must along with the plastic tarp (more like heavy plastic painter use). This all fits in our Tamarack Trunk. If it is snowy or real cold, we take along our Koplin bag on the front and load it with extra warm clothing and extra hand, toe, and foot warmers.
Tire plugs
Tire plug kit
CO2 cartridges
Tire gauge
Spark plug
Extra ign. key
Valve stem tool
Bungee cords
Bungee net
Tie down (ratchet)
Gloves (riding)
Gloves (surgical)
Gloves (winter)
Ski masks
Zip ties
Electrical tape
Duck tape
Space blankets (2)
Survival candles
Weatherproof matches
Rain slickers
First aide kit (complete)
First aide book
Tweezers
Nail clippers
Visine
Blistex
Afrin
Sun-block
Flash light
Batteries
Fuses
Tow strap
Come-along
Compass
Shovel
Knife
Plastic tarps
Wet ones
WD-40
Fire starters
Wood shims for kindling (line bottom of trunk with them)
Fire extinguishers
(Aerosol can style)
Sierra saw
Hand soap
Surgical masks (dust)
1 qt oil
Coolers (two six-pack size coolers, 1 for food, 1 for frozen water bottles and drinks)
Tooth picks
Maps
FRS radios
Insect repellent
Light sticks
Bio toilet paper
5 ft&39; 3/8” fuel line (siphon)
Loud whistle
Replacement lens for goggles
Ice sox
Hand warmers
Toe warmers
Foot warmers
Sweatshirt & pants
Bathroom hand towels (good for packing)
Plastic garbage bags
Binoculars
S&W Hammer-less 357 Mag (not in trunk)
100 rounds Hydro-shock ammo
Hope this helps.
Posted by: Specta
"Also do you know what MRE's stand for? they stand for Meals Rejected by Ethiopians." lol
I have got a lot of items from other lists people have posted in these forums. Have learned a lot in here from a lot of really nice and experienced people. I should get some type of rope too, and maybe an extra charger for the phone (and the list gets longer, again). We take about 6 frozen 12 oz water bottles in the cooler to keep the cokes cold and to drink as they thaw out. They work a lot better than ice and don't seam to thaw as fast. We always take extra snacks and an extra sandwich.
Enjoy the ride.
Posted by: Specta
I've had to killed quite a few mean rocks over the years and the gun comes in quite handy when they get out of line. Two things I never leave home without, my American Express and my 357. (j/k, i don't have an American Express)
I live out in the wild west, and everybody carries a gun.
Posted by: Specta
Thanks RstolzWi, and my list gets bigger. lol It works pretty good for a bandaid too, like new-skin. (darnit, that makes two)
Posted by: Ol
On June 18 of last year I posted this on the Honda forum and was told I was full of beans:
The desert is a very hostile and unforgiving environment. Appended here is a list of items I have on my ATV when I make excursions out into the unknown spaces. In the high desert wilderness, a problem only 5 miles away from the ranch could spell disaster.
ALWAYS a jacket – last Saturday (June 14) it was 98 in the afternoon and 41 in the morning
Water bottle + full extra canteen + 10L / 2.5 Gallon water keg (yes, all 3)
Survival rations
Cell phone
CB Radio and /or Motorola GMRS radio (if a partner has one)
Topo Map - Compass - GPS (GPS is always 3rd behind the Map & compass, never 1st)
Gerber Tool
SAK
tow strap
bungee cords
folding knife or fixed blade
Rifle and extra ammo - in addition to a 12Ga double barreled Coach Gun w/ 7 rnds of 00 Buck, 7 rnds of hi base #4s, 8 rnds of #8s, & 3 aerial signal flares paired with a Ruger 22 auto w/ 6 7/8 barrel and a box of ammo stashed in the Survival Bag on the rear rack. I also always wear a handgun: either a 45ACP, S&W Trail Boss 44 mag, or S&W 357.
German entrenching tool because it provides both pick and shovel
8X10 plastic tarp
1st Aid Kit & venom extraction kit
2 cell Maglight (AA size)
6 extra AA batteries in a small ammo pouch (for Maglight, GPS, CB)
Photon Flashlight
backpacker's candle lantern
Fox 40 whistle
1 roll toilet paper
Boonie Hat with chin strap
bandana (yup, them cowboys wore ‘em for a reason)
sportsman's survival blanket
Bic lighter, magnesium fire starter & magnifying lens
Sunblock
heavy leather work gloves
tool kit containing:
6" adjustable wrench
8mm,10,12,13,14,15, combo wrenches
lines-mans pliers
mill file, small (very handy)
multi blade screwdriver
roll of electrical tape
4" "needle nosed" Vise Grips
asstd sized cotter pins
3 hand held aerial signal flares
3 12 Ga aerial signal flares
1 Orange Smoke Marker
1 roll of duct tape
5 ft 18 ga. electrical wire
asstd electrical connectors
shrink tubing
50&39; paracord
tire plug kit
spare fuses
spare spark plug & spark plug wrench
whet stone
Believe it or not TWICE all this gear PLUS a 12 gauge double barreled Stoeger Coach Gun will fit in a Cabela's rear-rack bag. The point is that it still leaves ample room for all the requisite prospecting gear.
I was forced to open the emergency kit up this past weekend (July13) when my buddy blew a tire and did NOT have proper repair gear. From the ranch, we were about 12 miles out in the desert in 120 degree heat. It 'could' have gotten deadly real quick. Preparation for those excursions into real wilderness areas can indeed mean the difference between an enjoyable time and a disaster with fatal consequenses.
Posted by: Ol
Alaskaboy,
Regarding the hardware: the rifle and sidearm are strictly for defensive use. As in Alaska, where we prospect is pure wilderness and you are strictly on your own. My ranch is almost 9 miles from the nearest paved road and the 'diggings' are another 20 miles beyond the ranch - all very remote high desert wilderness. The shotgun and Ruger 22/45 are strictly for survival and "live" in the survival bag 24/7/365. I consider them as back-up.
There have been rare occasions in the bush when I was damn glad that I was armed - times when I believe that the visible presence of a firearm precluded any ah, "mischief" on the part of those with whom we encountered.
TreeDoc, I live in the SF Bay area. My 1881 Ranch is in central Nevada.
Posted by: reconranger
I prefer to travel light and fast, whether it be on a sport bike or utility. Out here in the desert, the single most important thing is WATER! I carry a 3 liter Camelback, minimum. A waterproof GoreTex jacket and the Boy Scout "ten essentials" (matches, leatherman tool, energy bars, basic first aid, etc.). And, a cell/sat phone. In some areas, a firearm (S&W Scandium/Titanium .357 Mag. Model 360 Kit Gun at only 12.5 oz.!). Plus, a tire plug kit and CO2 inflators, and basic tools.
When you are on a sport bike, you are going to have to carry most everything on your back, so I travel as light as possible. On a ute, you have the option of carrying more stuff, but still, I like to keep it minimalist. My utilities are just "go anywhere sport bikes" anyhow.
Posted by: reconranger
A kid got killed in our local San Bernardino Mts. a few years ago. A bear mauled him in his sleeping bag. Over the years, I have probably run into more bears than anything else. One person killed and one mauled by a mountain lion in the Santa Ana Mts. a few weeks ago. After that, everybody was seeing lions in their back yard. Somebody reported one, and the police ended up shooting what turned out to be a huge house cat.......poor fluffy! They had to shoot a bull that had gone feral in the foothills. It had massive horns, and was chasing folks. I think it particularly disliked mountain bikes.
Posted by: reconranger
natron-Not having anything to winch to is a common problem in the desert! But, it has never been such a big problem that I wanted to carry a clunkey sand anchor around with me.
If you get stuck in the sand, it is just a simple matter to pick the bike up out of the hole, and set it on higher ground.......unless you have a 700 lb machine! I can handle a ~500 lb machine like the Rancher pretty easily by myself, but if the machine is much heavier, you better bring a couple of buddies along to help do the lifting. This is another reason I go with the "travel light and fast" philosophy. Don't want the machine loaded down with a bunch of heavy cargo boxes and gear I probably wouldn't use in a 100 years anyway.
I have done minimalist backpacking/hiking/mountain biking for years, and this is how I pack when I ride the quads. Every trip I discover some more stuff that I can survive WITHOUT! Just enough gear (water!) so I can survive the night, and walk out the next morning if I have to.
Posted by: reconranger
Syclone-Anything you have at had will work to seat a bead. Tie down straps are by far the best (because you cans cinch them down), but a tow strap or even you belt will work in a pinch.
On the utes, I carry a 9 oz. CO2 cylinder (http://www.inflationzone.com/), and it will seat a bead on any tire. On the sport bikes, all there is room for are the little CO2 cartridges, but a couple of those will inflate a quad tire. But, seating a bead is a bit more of a challenge with the little ones.
Posted by: ChaosInMt
Funny all my lists start with beer. I wonder if this means somthing?
Posted by: ChaosInMt
I also carry one most of the time we have Grizzles and black bears mountaion lions wolves and tree hugging asss holes . I try not to shoot the bears and lions they dont know any better .
Posted by: ChaosInMt
Heck my 44 has a name its called company.
Posted by: ChaosInMt
We have Grizzles we are part of thire food chain They are not like those nice Black bears.
Posted by: Coyotechaser
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Originally posted by: Specta
Call it "over-kill".
Tire plugs X
Tire plug kit X
CO2 cartridges
Tire gauge X
Spark plug
Extra ign. key
Valve stem tool
Bungee cords X
Bungee net
Tie down (ratchet)
Gloves (riding)
Gloves (surgical)
Gloves (winter) X
Ski masks
Zip ties
Electrical tape
Duck tape
Space blankets (2) X
Survival candles
Weatherproof matches X
Rain slickers X
First aide kit (complete) X
First aide book
Tweezers X
Nail clippers X
Visine
Blistex
Afrin
Sun-block
Flash light X
Batteries
Fuses
Tow strap X
Come-along
Compass X
Shovel X
Knife X
Plastic tarps
Wet ones
WD-40
Fire starters
Wood shims for kindling (line bottom of trunk with them)
Fire extinguishers
(Aerosol can style)
Sierra saw X
Hand soap
Surgical masks (dust)
1 qt oil
Coolers (two six-pack size coolers, 1 for food, 1 for frozen water bottles and drinks)
Tooth picks
Maps X
FRS radios
Insect repellent
Light sticks
Bio toilet paper X
5 ft&39; 3/8” fuel line (siphon)
Loud whistle X
Replacement lens for goggles
Ice sox
Hand warmers
Toe warmers
Foot warmers
Sweatshirt & pants
Bathroom hand towels (good for packing) X
Plastic garbage bags
Binoculars X
S&W Hammer-less 357 Mag (not in trunk) X different kind
100 rounds Hydro-shock ammo X 12 rounds
Hope this helps.
I just put an X next to the things I take. I don't know if it'll come out right. I also take extra socks, winter gloves and winter hat. Also some water and a snack. Short trips- I just take a poncho, matches, flashlight and a knife. Don't forget the camera.
Posted by: Coyotechaser
I usually carry a gun to protect myself from other people. You never know who you'll meet up on the mountain. We get a lot of people from out of state up there. My other concern is rabies.
One day I went for a walk about a mile from my home. I was walking on the side of the road during the day between a corn field and thick brush. This fox walks out in front of me and starts up the middle of the road. The thing never even noticed me. So I'm basically walking behind it wondering if it had rabies. I let it get a little further and then made some noise. It jogged up into the brush. Few days later someone shot a sick fox in the same area. Rabies. That day I didn't take my gun and couldn't even find a decent sized pebble to throw at it. I considered myself lucky. The healthy animals don't concern me. Well at least the 4 legged ones don't concern me.
Posted by: KodiakOwner
Some extra gas may be a good idea. I want to buy the gas jugs that are flat and take up little space on your racks. I think they are called space savers or something like that. Sounds like you are well prepared for anything!
Posted by: KodiakOwner
Better safe than sorry. He's ready for anything.
Posted by: KodiakOwner
Hey Alaska boy how deep of snow can you drive your kodiak 450 in? Also do you know what MRE's stand for? they stand for Meals Rejected by Ethiopians.
Posted by: KodiakOwner
this has been an educational thread. sounds like we could survive in any condition. thanks for the lists. two sheets of plastic poly and some rope will make a decent lean to when needed. one sheat for ground cover and th other drapped over the rope. Tie off the corners of the top polly to rocks or trees or whatever is handy. We had to do this in a survival course i took. They are a b***h when it snows a lot though.
Posted by: KodiakOwner
just a question. whats the handguns for? shooting the stupid bastard that got you lost and stranded?
Posted by: KodiakOwner
P.E.T.A. What does that stand for again?
Oh yeah, it stands for People Eating Tasty Animals....... I was a member and didnt know it.
Posted by: WoodsRuner
a can of Fix-A-Flat and a cel phone for normal daily riding.
on long trips: add a bottle of water, a snack or two (Granola bars), small first aid kit,
Swiss army knife, gas, quart of oil, hand and foot warmers if its cold.
That is it.
Posted by: bigbamaboy
I see most all yall carry tire plugs, but have any of yall ever pushed your tire completely off the rim. It happend to me about 7 down a steep mtn. Not a happy camper. What would yall do in this sit.
P.S.
I carry my trusty Browning 22 pistol to ward off meth-cookers and pot growers, LOL.
Posted by: bigbamaboy
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Originally posted by: reconranger
Syclone-Anything you have at had will work to seat a bead. Tie down straps are by far the best (because you cans cinch them down), but a tow strap or even you belt will work in a pinch.
Would it not be easier to use your winch cable? Just wrap the cable around the tire, and take in cable till it causes the tire to buldge out against the rim. And you have a way to hold the tire while you fill it w/ air.
Posted by: rescuediver
Treedoc, F&G is not the enemy when it comes to mtn lions. Back in I believe 1994, the people in the state of Ca. passed a law that makes the mtn Lion a protected species. The law to protect mtn lions was passed by the vast number of voters in the S.F and L.A. areas that wanted to protect their fuzzy cats. The rest of the state (where mtn lions have been problems) wanted the initiative to fail and give F&G more power to address the problems. Unfortunately, there was more voting people in the two most populated areas in the state (L.A. & S.F) so the law passed. F&G does not have a problem taking care of problem animals. They know that mtn lions are a problem, unfortunately the mtn lions are protected and other then irradicating problem mtn lions, their hands are tied by law.
Posted by: Sparkey
I carry some rope, gloves, tree saver, snatch block tow strap, some shackles a small folding saw, water, a compass and or a gps, maps, snacks, insect repellant, a mini mag flashlight, a bic lighter, a whistle, and some rain gear. (Some times a pistol if I feel the need, check local laws) The protection is for 2 legged critters. Extra gas is a good idea and tire repair stuff like fix a flat or plugs and a small pump or C02 inflator is a wise thing also. The usual tool Kit of course. A first aid Kit and some Duct tape isn.t bad either.
Posted by: AlaskaBoy
Thats one heck of a list, it actually does not take up much space as it mostly small stuff. I would add some 550 cord{parachute cord}. I carry and axe tied to the rear rack as well as a folding shovel also attached to the rack. I added a ammo can to act as a trunk and carry just about everything on that list. I like the surgical mask idea, I have ridden numerous times and that would of helped. I also carry a couple of freeze dried meals used to carry MRE's but the freeze dried take less space. I to like those flat pack water and gas containers but can not bring myself to pay for them. I would also sugest a water purifier, I have the Backpacker one and it has given me alot of years use, money well spent. I carry 2 one qt. military water bottles and fill them up as I need, water is plentiful here but sometimes you have to wonder of the source. A current copy of the game regs as well. Either my 41 mag or the 44, when I am feeling like it the 45 acp. A small fishing rod is handy when you find a creek or beaver pond with trout in it. I also mounted a Ram spotlight from Cabelas. How about a camera and film, never know when you might want to rember something. Charger for the cell phone. Mini compressor. Survey tape and some additional tools to add to the few that comes with the bike. For tow ropes I have 150 feet of comercial fishing rope carried in two sections one 100 foot and the other 50 feet this way I will always be able to find a place to hook my winch too. Thats about all I can think of right now. I will have to add some of the things off Specta's list to mine. AlaskaBoy.
Posted by: AlaskaBoy
We in Alaska all carry blue tarps, the more the merrier. I always over do it when I pack tarps for hunting camp, we can cover an acre it seems. It beats getting wet though, normaly during hunting season it rains, alot and there is nothing more depressing then getting wet while moving around camp in the woods is different story. You only have to get wet running to the outhouse, as I am not putting it any closer when you got guys drinking cheap beer and eating chilli. Bad combination, especially with a camp fire going.{HAHA} Hey nobody mentioned the plug in blender, what gives? You can not have taco night without the margihrettas. AlaskaBoy.
Posted by: AlaskaBoy
Hey Chaos, nothing wrong with putting beer on your list. Except I do not need to add it to my list as it is right up there with my handgun and ammo and those are neccesary and never get put on the actual list, you never forget them. It likes putting on your pants in the morning, you don't forget them. Now of course for the disclaimer: never ride while drinking nor use a firearm while intoxicated.AlaskaBoy.
Posted by: AlaskaBoy
The handgun is for the four legged critters that like to roam into camp, mainly Brown bears. Once in awhile you will get a Black bear or even a Coyote but they will run when yelled at. I had a Caribou stick its nose to my tent and sniff, it was a not a good way to wake up and see the side of your tent being pushed in and hearing something snorting. I did not shoot thru the tent as it was in the line with my friends tent and just yelled at it to get the @#$$ out of here. I was somewhat suprrised when I heard the sounds of hooves hitting the hard trail and grabed my Mag lite and gun and jumped out of the tent, my friend of course heard the yelling and he to was flashlighted and armed. We checked the side of the tent and there was drool on the tent and Caribou tracks. The next year while we were in the same spot hunting Caribou we had a Brown bear with cubs come into camp in the middle of the day and she went right to the pole we had our Caribou hanging. She was alittle late though as we had just cut them down and loaded them onto the fourwheelers for the trip out to the truck. If we had stayed another night I am positive we would of had a nightime raid. The most important reason for the handguns is the ultimate savage beast, The Tree Hugger, these creatures have been known to come into your camp and pee on the beer, that can not be tolerated.AlaskaBoy.
Posted by: AlaskaBoy
Hey TreeDoc, I agree about predator control. We are trying that but that wacko group called PETA is all over our a@@ and trying to get a boycott of visitors. I say fine, I would rather have hunters and fishermen then the tree huggers, they do not spend money. The outdoorsman spend big and that is what is running our economy as the oil drys up. I like the the 3 S rule, I have seen it applied alot over the years. AlaskaBoy.
Posted by: AlaskaBoy
Ol, I see this as a resonable and a responsible list and I carry just about everything you have on that list +/- a few things. I feel it is alittle overkill on the weaponry, I carry a sidearm .45 or 44 mag or even my .41 mag and a .300 win Ruger but no shotgun, to each his own though. Go prepared or die, good motto. AlaskaBoy.
Posted by: TreeDoc
OK Ute drivers....I'm putting together a list of things that I want to carry on my quad when I hit the trail. I am just getting started but so far I have a tire repair kit (patches, plugs, tire irons), tow line, first aid kit, and a few things that I want to get relating to the winch (snatch block, tree saver, etc.). What else do you carry on your Ute when you go on a short or long outing?
Posted by: TreeDoc
LOL!
Posted by: TreeDoc
Out here in California, Black Bears are prevelant but are generally pretty harmless except in certain instances. While Deer Hunting, I have found myself trekking on foot, right between a surprised mother and cub....not a good place to be! It's the kitties that are an issue IMO. This state is full of 'em! I don't give a rat's ass what DFG or the media says "after" the recent attacks. If you see ONE Mtn Lion, there are 10 more that you haven't seen.....but they see you! The simple fact that we are "seeing" them is reason to be concerned. They are desmating the Coastal Blacktail herd as they go unchecked with no real predation. The city folk in our major metropolitan areas stay at home all warm and cozy and think about how wonderful the fuzzy kitties are...how could we consider managing their population. Meanwhile, those of us involved in the outdoors see how bleek the future is for our local deer populations and wildlife and at some point in the not so distant future, some poor jogger, bicyclist, or small child on an outdoor outing with his/her "sheople" parents that don't recognize a hazard if it were to sneak up and bite them in their azzes.
I always carry when in the outdoors. The 3 S's....If need be, Shoot, shovel, and shut up!
Posted by: TreeDoc
I'm not shocked by that this at all, I think it's prudent. What part of this state are you in Ol? Aside from a newly devoted ATV'r, I'm also a Pilot and find myself flying over the Southwest's inhospitable desert rather frequently. At the chiding of a few of my fellow pilots, I carry a survival pack that houses 14.7 pounds of gear with strong similarities to much of what has been discussed here, plus or minus a few things. After flying to the scene of a crash, pending my survival in the first place, I am prepared with that pack's contents to keep at least 2 people alive for upwards of 5 days. Along with the ELT in the aircraft, if I do my part in flying my filed flight plan and communicating any ammendments to such, I can expect rescue within a day if conditions are right. If they aren't, then a few days might be more likely. I think an ATV mishap in similar terrain or conditions could be worse as it is possible that no one would really know exactly where you were.
Interesting reading this has been, I'm glad I posted it!
~TD
Posted by: TreeDoc
rd, I am in total agreement with you on DFG having there hands tied by the voters way back when. The point that I was trying to make is DFG won't come out and take a stand on the issue. When that lady got attacked and they found that guy that had been killed, DFG seemed to really play down the issue about lion population, like it really isn't a problem. The only time I have heard a DFG Biologist really speak to the issue is in an "off the record" environment.
Posted by: natron1
I realize I'm comming a little late here. But 2 items many of you might consider if your out by yourselves. These are from experiences I had as a 4-wheeher. What if you need to winch (power or come a long) and there are no trees, rocks, or anything stationary. One of those sand drag boat anchors is just the ticket. You may need to use a shovel to bury it a little in certain situations. I never ran deserts out west. Can you get buried in sand dune like sand? Anyhow, no matter the situation, the harder you pull the deeper it digs in. I still carry a 12 incher when I'm by myself. I use to carry a sheep herders or sometimes called a shepards jack in my jeep. But this would be impracticle on a Quad due to length and weight. But an old fashion bumper jack seems better. Jack up under the brush guards and push the jack and the quad to one side to get out of stucked hole onto firmer ground. Consider these if your going by yourself.
Posted by: natron1
For yourself your right. You hit it though for me. With a bomb at 755 lbs. Need a jack.
Posted by: RstolzWi
One thing that comes in handy, and I didn't see on the lists.and takes up little space is a tube of Crazy glue. Temp fix for everything from clothing to plastic.
Rick-Wi
Posted by: WyoBullRydr
you can get those space savers from Cabelas.com go to the ATV section of coarse, and there they are. One for fuel and one for water.
Posted by: WyoBullRydr
I will be a enw ATV'r in the near future. I am looking to go as far as possible back into the Medicine Bow National forest in Wyoming. Aside from My 30-30 and .40 Glock, and the other stuff on the larger list at the beginning of this thread, what should I take with me. I am buying a '04 Grizz and will be taking plenty of gas. It will be mid Aug. and the weather is questionable. I will be taking tent and sleeping bag of coarse. Thanks TW
Posted by: WyoBullRydr
Speaking of Gear bags, I just bought a cool set from Big R for 80 bucks. They have them on sale, It was a kit that had a huge rear rack bag, two hadlebar mits, a two section fender bag, a two section tank bag with bottle holder, and all of it is water-proof Mossy Oak Camo. I couldn't find a better deal than this. Check it out. All of the stuff has a protective black foam diamond plate covers. They look really cool on my 3-wheeler. Later. TW
Posted by: WyoBullRydr
Please disregard my last entry. I went riding with the big bag attached. I hit a few small jumps with the big red and all but one of the straps that holds the thing on busted. I got hosed.
Posted by: Bjack
Kawi650,
I read your message to my son, his reply was "HE MUST RIDE A HONDA". very funny message