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Posted by: scavanau
For the ones here breaking their cable, is anyone using a roller fairlead?
Posted by: damguy
I've broken my cable several times in the past couple of years. I always keep spare cable clamps and some thimbles to keep the cable from kinking for quick repairs during a storm. I also remove my hook from the cable and use a shakle so there's no chance of the hook disconnecting in a storm. Whenever I break the cable I cut it back removing any frayed cable too. I now have an extention clamped to the short plow angle lever. This allows me to easily find the lever when the rear of the plow is buried and also gives me a guide for height while raising the plow which has (so far) kept me from breaking my cable this season. I previously plowed with a 98 Big Bear then a 2000 Kodiak and I'll tell you the Rincon is the most awesome plow machine! Stock radials and a little weight on the rear rack and I pushed over a foot of snow no problem. Can't wait for the next storm!!!
Posted by: damguy
I've always used a roller fairlead and still break cable. It's way too easy to break these cables with the short distance your lifting and the amount of cable spooled at the touch of the switch. I'm leary of these syn cables and may just make up a short steel one for the winter. When will someone make a downsized hydraulic power angle plow for a quad? Any clever people tried to make one?
Posted by: Snownut
I use a roller fairlead but when the cable pulls to one side it still rubs the fairlead housing and will break. Mine broke over the weekend...
Posted by: Fango
I've switched to the SYNTH ROPE...but I do not use it for plowing...it is great but it can be damaged. Especially with using it for a plowing application. I opt to replace my rope with a short section of cable for plowing. (don't forget to change the fairlead also) If I go out riding...I simply respool the rope on and replace the alluminum fairlead.
The rope is SPENDY and I hate wasting hard earned money!!
Posted by: Fango
Looks like it would be fine....except I know my old roller fairlead would chew the sh!t outa that rope with all the grooves from the cable. A smooth alluminum fairlead would be better with the rope.
Posted by: Fango
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Originally posted by: Timo
They do reccommend a aluminum fairlead with rope
Warn obviously is not recommending aluminum fairleads....the picture on the link shows a roller fairlead.
Master-Pull DOES recommend aluminum...(maybe that is who you are refering to when you say "They")
Aluminum Fairlead
This is what I use....anything else will fry your rope quick like!
Posted by: Fango
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Originally posted by: akfireman
not that I dont believe you fango, I know master pull uses the aluminum fairlead, but why would warn show it with a roller fairlead if it wasnt ok. I can understand if your fairlead is grooved like you said yours was but with a smooth roller it shouldnt have any problems i would think.
If you have a new roller fairlead your rope will probably be OK....I just know what my experience was. Personally I wouldn't use the rollers with a rope. I figure that I would rather spend an extra $45 for the right fairlead than fry my rope. Just a matter of opinion....not the Gospel on the subject.
Posted by: action450s
I snapped mine a couple times plowing, no big deal. If you do ruin it, your only ruining the first 4-5 feet of cable, not all of it.
Ideal solution would be to have a short 10' length on the drum for winter plowing, and put your regular cable back on in the spring.
I haven't seen the need to do this personally, I've only lost about 6' of my cable from snapping and I repair it with simple hand tools and the proper clamps from the hardware store.
Posted by: action450s
Just winch cable clamps from the hardware store. They look like a U-bolt, but the sliding piece is very different and is meant to grip the cables securely and without swuatting them together. I reccommend using them in pairs spaced 3" apart.
I always cut away the frayed broken end. To do this I tightly wrap electrical tape over an area about 1" long and use a hackwaw to cut the cable in the middle of the taped area. This way the threads stay together during and after the cut. I usually leave the tape on from then on to keep it from fraying period.
Posted by: action450s
I have a roller fairlead on mine, still frays the cable during repeated use lifting the blade. It usually breaks when I lift the blade too high, so that's my own stupid fault.
I nay check out that rockstomper cable, looks like goood stuff.
Posted by: Coyotechaser
Rockymountainatv.com sells replacement cable. Warn- 50' $25.99, Ramsey- 50' $29.99, and Tusk- 50' for $24.99.
I would probably get a shorter length of cable to use for plowing and then save the 50' for the trails.
Posted by: FUFIGHTER
What kind of clamps were you using action 450s?
Posted by: Bears
Hello GUys.
I use my warn winch mainly for lifting the plow blade when plowing snow. I have heard that this can damage the cable. ANy onoe have any experience with this problem? Other suggestions besides buyng another 200.00 lift option. Would it be possible to use the synthetic ropw warn just came out with by fastening that to the end of my current winch cable instead of removing the whole cable? REally do not want ot remove the whole cable because then what happens if I do get stuck? Please give me your suggestions. THanks
Posted by: Bears
Thanks TImo.
RockStompers may be the answer for our plowing needs! That rope appears like it will not kink up and fray like the traditional cable plus it is long enough to use as your winch too compared to the 8foot piece that WARN is selling. Great site. THaNks guys.
Posted by: liquidplumber
go with spider cable it is all i will use
Posted by: Goss50
I just snapped mycable last week. Being a newbie I went to Cabella's and ordered a new cable. It wasn't till later that my buddy told me I could have gone to Home Depot and bought some cable for much much less.
Oh well.
Posted by: Glenlivet
I just grab a marlinspike and splice the cable. No big ugly clamp to hang up on things and cause problems. Roll the ends in so there are no sharp ends or ugly tape to fray off. Old loggers trick. Marine splice.
Posted by: Glenlivet
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Originally posted by: rjrtools
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Originally posted by: Glenlivet
I just grab a marlinspike and splice the cable. No big ugly clamp to hang up on things and cause problems. Roll the ends in so there are no sharp ends or ugly tape to fray off. Old loggers trick. Marine splice.
I don't know this one could you please give more detail?
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Here is a PDF (Adobe Acrobat Reader) splicing manual for wire rope in logging. Refer to the Marine Rolled Splice. The Loggers Eye shown is good too but the strands must remain outside the line and should therefor be cut off at about 1/4 inch and heated with an acetylene torch until the wires of each gob into a little knob that won't grab cloth or skin. If you wish to use a thimble it is imperative to secure the eye loop tight around the thimble and make your first tucks tight to the ends of it. I don't use a thimble. The splice shown has the strand ends left outside but the core can be cut and rolled out of the live end before the splice is started and when the splice is completed the strands can be cut short and rolled one after the other into the space formerly occupied by the core, and at the last the core is measured and cut to clear the last strand and rolled back in, making for a smooth splice that will not catch clothing or fingers. (and will run through blocks and fairleads, unlike a cable clamped eye. Don't worry about cutting the core, it comprises only 7% of line strength. For the small line used in ATV winches you can spike the eye down to a wood block with an electrical wire staple. I make all my accessory straps this way. A spliced eye will never slip or fail on you. The line will break first.
http://www.worksafebc.com/publications/health_and_safety_information/by_topic/assets/pdf/splicing.pdf
Posted by: cnynctry
A bit more expensive but I don't think is going to wear out for a loooooong time. Masterpull winch rope
Posted by: akfireman
here is something interesting I saw on the Warn website, has anyone have one or heard how good they are, here is a link to it warn plow rope
Posted by: akfireman
not that I dont believe you fango, I know master pull uses the aluminum fairlead, but why would warn show it with a roller fairlead if it wasnt ok. I can understand if your fairlead is grooved like you said yours was but with a smooth roller it shouldnt have any problems i would think.
Posted by: Timo
STOP!!!!! Check this site out. After much research I ordered rope from this site. It's stronger and lighter. What more can you ask for. www.rockstomper.com
Posted by: Timo
They do reccommend a aluminum fairlead with rope
Posted by: Timo
The manufacturer of the rope recommends it. I think there is a problem using used roller fairleads. Check the link under my name on page one.
Posted by: Timo
Thats what I'm hoping anyways because I don't want to spend 45.00 for aluminum
Posted by: rjrtools
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Originally posted by: Glenlivet
I just grab a marlinspike and splice the cable. No big ugly clamp to hang up on things and cause problems. Roll the ends in so there are no sharp ends or ugly tape to fray off. Old loggers trick. Marine splice.
I don't know this one could you please give more detail?
For the people who have a multimount system check out Montanna Jacks thing for moving your winch.
I welded brackets onto my plow frame so my cable pulls in straight now instead of making the corner to go down to the plow.
Posted by: rjrtools
Glenlivet, that was a great link! Thanks, Bob
Posted by: dg37615
hello,
i have a 2500 warn winch. wondering what is the correct way to respool cable onto the drum? same procedure if putting a 6 ft section on for plowing? thaks, dave
