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Posted by: 01450ES4x4
Has anyone ever put rear duals on their machine. I think it was Maxx Traxx that used to make a kit but i cant find it again. Does anyone know if someone makes a dual wheel kit or how to go about doing something like that. Thanks
Posted by: RaptorRy
Check out the febuary dirt wheels pg 156 there is a 01 grizz with duals all round hope this helps Ry
Posted by: friedenspull
Hey go to highlifter.com. Look at the readers wheelers under exreme wheelers. There used to be a guy on there with duals all the way around on his SP500. Pretty awesome looking machine. I have the pics somewhere if you can't find them pm I'll get-em to ya.
Posted by: friedenspull
Sorry just went to high lifter the quad is no longer there. Let me know if you want the pics
Posted by: Grizzdaddy
Can you explain in more detail how you did the dual wheels? I really want to make a set and try them on my AC
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Posted by: maddog56
Albright shores runs a sand drag series. A guy showed up there with a banshee running a sled engine and a rear axle with 4 extreme hauler paddles on it. Not on the utility end I know, but sweet to look at none the less.
Posted by: Starky
I don't know if this would work but I don't see why not. You could knock the studs out of your hubs and replace them with longer hardened bolts. Put the first set on and tighten them down with some nuts and then put the second set on and tighten them down with some nuts. I think the important thing would be to make sure you use hardened bolts.
Posted by: MnFriesen
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Originally posted by: friedenspull
Sorry just went to high lifter the quad is no longer there. Let me know if you want the pics
you should post them into your gallery... I know I would like to see it
Posted by: suzuki4ever
I used to have dual wheels all the way around on my LT230. It was great, i could float across ponds and stuff. I got the idea from an artical i saw in a dirt wheels mag. i built wheel spacers that i bulted to the hub with the inside tire and they had another hub on the end of them witch i bolted another wheel to. It kills you in turning and it makes it exstremly wide but I could kill all my buddies through the mud on their big 4x4s, on my little 2x4 sport quad.
Posted by: floridaredneck
go to highlifter.com and search it. i jus a post on there about a kit sumone made and will make for people
Posted by: Glenlivet
Not unless you found a way to fix the rim flanges of the inner and outer wheels together. The described setup would be axially strong but would have virtually no lateral strength except that provided by the friction between the wheels, or rather the tire sidewalls since they bulge out past the wheels, at the meeting faces. IE: Roll the outer tire up on a rock and it would skid up in relation to the inner tire. Then you are set for a bumpy ride home.
Posted by: Glenlivet
The above situation brings to mind the big drawback of all around dual wheels, (besides the Schwarzennegger-like arms needed to steer the beast): leverage against the wheel bearings.
The distance measured from the centerline of the tire to the centerline of the outside wheel bearing compared to the distance from the centerline of that outside bearing to the inside (or opposite) wheel bearing is the mechanical advantage of the wheel mass that the bearings and suspension parts must support.
Adding a second outer wheel moves the leverage point out to the midline of the outer tire and MORE than doubles the weight and mass that must be handled. (due to the hardware used to mount the extra wheel)
The rear axle of a solid axle quad has bearings nearly the width of the machine apart. Let's say 30 inches. If the distance from the centerline of the back tire to the rear wheel bearing is three inches then there is a 10 to 1 leverage advantage for the axle against the load. Moving the load point out to the middle of an outer dual tire (Let's say 12 inch tires and a 1 inch space between them) is 6" +1"+6" plus the original three inches to total 16 inches. Against the axle width of 30 inches between bearings. So the axle now has a 2-1 advantage or so against the load. Still not bad and survivable. Front steering spindles on the other hand... (and rear on an IRS)...
On my King Quad the front wheel bearings are almost side by side. The centerlines are then about 1 inch apart. I can't speak for others because I haven't seen them apart but let's double it and say 2 inch centers, to be generous. If the centerline of the front tire is 3 inches from the outer bearing then there is a 1.5-1 mechanical advantage of the wheel/tire AGAINST the axle and bearings, right off the bat. If the, lets say narrower, front wheels of a dual setup move the load point out a bit less than the rear, say 14 inches, then you now have made a 7-1 mechanical advantage AGAINST the axle and bearings.
If the engineers who designed the quad built in a safety factor of a generous five (an industry standard for bridges), you have now achieved negating this and now have a safety factor of 1-1.
Meaning it can fail and break at any time, and more than likely will, without warning, sooner than later.
Sure looks cool though...
