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Posted by: BONER
The 25" 589s did NOT beat the 27" Vamps, they scored a 9 out of 10 while the Vamps scored a 9.5 out of 10 in the mud.
Overall, Yes. The 589s did beat them overall, but not in mud.
I would recomend the the 26" Vamps for your 400, but if you go 27" I would get Magnum bi/tri-claws. They are awsome.
They ride better than vamps and mud just as good, IF NOT BETTER.
Posted by: BONER
Well I find that the Claws do better the more you spin them, like outlaws. With vamps you want to keep the wheel spin down so you can just grip and pull. Normally, if you ahve to spin them and come to a stop it's all over.
Posted by: robh
Just got my set of vamps and itp wheels on tuesday, cant wait to get out with them this weekend.
Posted by: robh
I was in a hurry when I first mounted them, took me all of about 5 mins to fig something was wrong, fixed them after i looked at the pics, but thanx, btw it was only the fronts that was on backwards, i guess thats what happens when you let your kids help
Posted by: 4502000
The 589s are great mud tire and a all around tire for the simple fact on hard pack it has a great center tred pattern for a smother ride. Very little vibration.Look for a tire with a tread pattern with a close inline center tread.
Posted by: lrichard
Roman,
I have been having 27" Vamps for 2 years now on my machine, and use them for all sorts of riding and I have no complaints at all. I have 2 brothers in Louisiana that use Vamps on their machines and ride with other people with all sorts of different mud tires. They have not once bowed down or lost to any other tire in the mud. All they do is stay in the mud too.
Look at my photos and see what types of terrain I ride in. They have done just as good as stock tires in the gravel. Guys I hunt with every year laughed when I first got my tires, but guess what they have now. No more laughing.
I also snow plow with the Vamps and they do very well for that too. I am very well satisfied with Vamps and wouldn't buy anything different right now.
Posted by: TheArcher
If all you do is ride in the mud vamps are great. If you do some trail riding, some work, some all around use you will find the 589's to be a better tire. They are still hands over better than stock tires in the mud but they won't rattle the teeth out of your head on hardpack. As far as the outlaw/vamp debate.... in my opinion they accomplish the same thing. If you have an extra $200 to spend buy the vamps or 589's and get a winch.
Posted by: BigMud2000
ROMAN- Hey, I see you're pretty close to my neck of the woods...
I'm assuming you have 11" rims since you said Outlaws won't fit... I would think that the Outlaws would do better in the mud than the Vamps, but I'm not sure if it would make up for the price diffference for new rims....Normally I would say Outlaws, but considering the rims, I would say go with Vampires, thats what 90% of the mud riders around here run. If you don't wanna make the drive to Shreveport to Highlifter, I would recomend going to C&R Offroad in Bastrop, I got my tires there and they seem pretty friendly and knowledgeable.
PS- Ever ridden at Lock 6 or Three Beach right on the LA/AR border? Pretty good riding there, we ride there alot in the spring and summer, just waitin' for the Ouachita to go down enough to get down there now...
Posted by: billglaeser
atvnews did a mud tire shoot out and the 589s one, they beat the vampires and they were comparing 27in vamps to 25 in 589s i would go with the 589s
Posted by: ROMAN
I'm debating between either 26' Vampires or 26" Outlaws. I want to use my stock Prairie wheels and this will work with the Vampires, but it won't with the Outlaws. This creates a $200.00 price difference in favor of the Vampires. Are the Outlaws that much better? Some people have recommended the 589s but I don't know if they'll handle the severe mud I'm running into. What do you think?
Posted by: ROMAN
I've got a winch, just don't like to have to use it every time I ride in this gumbo mud. Where I ride at here in Louisiana is primarily swampy, with not much of a bottom to it.
Posted by: robertm
I have 27" vampires on my 4x4 and they work great.
it takes an act of god to get stuck in mud. but they are right about the fact that they will be a bumpy ride. if you know that you definately want a mud tire that looks mean (and is)I would definately choose the vamps. I have buddies with outlaws and they are about the same in the mud they both work very well. $200 bucks is what makes or breaks the debate for me.
my dad has some bear claw 27" and they handle the mud fairly well. not swamp worthy but a much smoother ride. it all comes down to what you like to do with your atv.
Posted by: packrat
I know two guys with 500 sportsmans one has 27" vampires the other has 27" tri claws.They had there own little deep mud shoot out and the tri claws seemed to do better.
Posted by: yamahagye
robh, why are your vampires on backwards???
Posted by: King300
the archer,
I have a 2000 King Quad 300 and want to put bigger more aggressive tires on it, what did you put on your KQ and what type of power loss if any did you have
Posted by: redrubi01
I have 27 vampires on my rubicon... I also had them on my old 97 foreman 400 (except those were 25's).. If you a AWESOME mudding tire and ALOT of bite all around... go with the vampires.. If you do alot of trail riding go with the (4) 26-10-12 titans... or whatever size of them fits ur stock rims... i would go with the skinny 10's if u do alot of trail riding.
2001 rubicon: (27-10-12) vamps... 2 warn 2500's... snorkel... magnum billet rims... HL performance kit (when it comes out)... heated grips...
Posted by: Mudrush
Irichard,
What is that you are pulling in the picture 007_7 it looks like the bottom of an outhouse or something.
Posted by: Mudrush
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