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Posted by: RoostKing
For 85 and 86, the LT were 5 speeds.
RoostKing 99 Banshee 85 LT 250R,now its hanging on the wall...
Posted by: 86atc250r
I don't believe the LT250R ever had a powervalve in stock form. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I have ridden a couple over the years, and with them as well. I have heard a few people comment on how fast they were, but haven't found that to be the case myself. Case in point: When I first got my ATC350X, probably around '90 or '91, I rode with an LT250R that was piped and carb'd. We would pull even on from a rolling start drag on a flat surface, until the very top, then the 350X would start slowly pulling away, I always attributed that to the fact that my 350X had 6 gears, and I think the LT only had a 5 speed. This seems to be the case with every LT250R I have been around, they just never seemed that fast to me.
Anyone with the same experiences, or is it just me?
Posted by: 86atc250r
Obviously the 350X and LT250R are completely different kinds of bikes, and I wasn't trying to make direct comparisons.
I was only relating several riding experiences that I had when riding my 350X at the time, when a buddy was riding an LT250R, thoses were the outcomes for me. We all know there are a lot of factors that go into any kind of racing.... Not all that familiar with the LT250R, but the one I am talking about was probably one of the first if that makes any difference.
Since then, I have ridden with a few that posed little challenge to the bikes I have been on as well, namely the ATC250R. Just my experience, others may differ....
Posted by: 86atc250r
Duster...
That could be, it was a long time ago and I have long since lost track of that riding buddy. For some reason I was thinking it was a 5 speed, but wasn't sure.
We used to play "chase" all day long, we would ride trails at breakneck speed trying to lose one another, then sometimes pop out into a long, flat, open field for a straight drag, hence, the rolling start. These are the cases when the LT and I would race. It was always very close, but seems like I would pull away on the top. I probably weighed about 125/130 at the time and my 350X was still pretty new, man it had a lot of power back then, 6th gear wheelies were no problem...
Later
Posted by: CT250R
Well, I would say that for CORNERING, the LT would handle better for flattrack, however the suspension frame geometry of the suzuki isn't quite as good and the hOnda 250R's go through the "rough stuff" better. They also handle a little bit squirrely though. The LT might be faster stock but not modified. The TRX250R now is the fastest 250 modified because they have been racing them for the past 12 years! All the top engine builders would run something else if there was something else better(i.e. LT or Tecate 4 motor). The LT250R's are a cool bike for sure but they also don't hold up quite as well to the extreme abuse of MX,Cross country or TT racing. Flattrack racing wouls be the only area where the LT has an advantage over the TRX. And even then it would need to be a rolling start race like nascar. From a dead stop the TRX would beat it and then it wouldn't be worth running.
CT250R
Posted by: 90_lt250r
OK, for those who don't think so, the LT250R does have a powervalve, I could show you the one on mine if you like. Its also pretty fast, I raced my cousin's new 400ex last night on pavement and I had a 3-4 quad length lead until I topped out in 6th and then he started to catch back up. I think it handles pretty good too, especially around the corners. Overall, I can't complain, considering I used to own a 99 Warrior (what a waste of money that was). What I really wanted to get was a TRX250R, but I couldn't find a good one around my area so I settled on the LT and I'm not really disappointed.
Posted by: Fireblade74
I am gonna have to put my two cents worth in on this one. I have a LT, and have entirely different stories to relate to. Mine is piped, jetted, ported, and geared for more topend. A friend of mine owns a 350X and he has no chance against my bike, he is a very good rider and will take a risk to beat me. I had my cousin on the back with me when we drag raced and I still beat him, we did this to see if it made much of a difference in the outcome of the race. I don't think a 350X is in the same class as a LT, nor should be compared, nothing negatice meant by this. Another friend has a TRX250R, and his is modified also, and he has a better chance then the 350, but still not enough. I rode his bike, and personally don't like it. I feel awkward on the bike, and I can't relate to everyone saying it is the best handling quad made. I can see I am going to regret saying that. :-> When you sit on the two, you feel as if you are part of the LT, kind of like sitting on my GSXR, your in the bike, not on it. The 250r and my brother's Banshee feel as if your on them. Later
Posted by: gagnier
I have watched both machines race and I know people who own them. The LT has a power valve for exaust and the honda doesnt, this is the main reason why the LT can beat the 250R in stock form as the R doesnt have one.
The R will out corner an LT anyday, I have seen a 330 LT get beaten by a piped R in every corner then the LT would sling shot by.
I think the only reason u see more Rs racing is the cornering, and because of that there are lotsa aftermarket parts.
The Honda is the slowest out of all the High Performances 250 2 strokes
1 Tecate
2 LT 250R
3 250R
Posted by: gagnier
Thanks for setting that straight I knew that the LT had a Powervalve, Im also pretty certain that the Tecate has one also
Posted by: gagnier
No production quad has EVER HAD a powervalve or KIPS, or ATAC or what ever u like eh
Posted by: gagnier
I was right the Tecate does have a powervalve just like the LTs , Gas Gas, Phillps Quads,
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/6243/Tecate-4.html
check it out it SAYS THE TECATE HAS A POWERVALVE !!!!!!!
Posted by: duster
86atc250r,
Not an arguement starter, just a correction...LOL!!!
The Lt250R was 6 speed, I raced an '88. The probable cause of your wins was most likely this...Most people re-geared the Lt more for bottom end. The Lt was awesome out of the hole anyway and you could really hurt some feelings from a dead stop on a short run with more bottom. It would run away BAD. But in long runs, another would catch up and start to pull away.
People also did this to make it a better trail machine in woods.
BE COOL!!
Posted by: duster
atc250r,
I owned and raced an '88 Lt250R, It was 6 speed. If it was an early model, it may have been a 5 speed. I'm not real familiar with those.
I couldn't imagine it without 6th though. So, if is was without it, there was good reason to add it. I was just kind of scratching my head at your reply, remembering how fast mine was when I 1st got it, much less after going to the race shop. Bone stock, I beat Banshees and modified 250R's in short runs.
LATER...
Posted by: duster
atc250r,
I owned and raced an '88 Lt250R, It was 6 speed. If it was an early model, it may have been a 5 speed. I'm not real familiar with those.
I couldn't imagine it without 6th though. So, if is was without it, there was good reason to add it. I was just kind of scratching my head at your reply, remembering how fast mine was when I 1st got it, much less after going to the race shop. Bone stock, I beat Banshees, Tecate 4's and modified 250R's in short runs.
LATER...
Posted by: LTqracer
I'm fairly new to the world of atvs and i'm wondering about what the the main differences between a LT250R and a Honda 250r are. i see alot more 250r's racing motocross and racing altogether but i don't know why they are considered better. So basiclly Im wondering why there alot more 250r's racing than there are LT250R's. Any help would be appriciated.
Posted by: Yamaholic
there is no powervalve on any production racer
Posted by: Yamaholic
no production quad has ever had a powervalve.
Posted by: atvcrazyone2
the 86LT has 6 gears.
Posted by: atvcrazyone2
the 86LT has 6 gears.
Posted by: atvcrazyone2
the 1986 lt250R has a 6th gear
