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Posted by: maddog56
For 9k you could buy a banshee or any big bore 4 stroke sport quad that would decimate the bombs.
Posted by: maddog56
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Originally posted by: TrailxRider
For 9k! Then it isn't stock is it?? It's not even moderately modded! It's got tons of mods in it! We're talking about stock bombs, and maybe a little modding. Nothing huge. If I wanted to put 4 ish extra thousand into my bomb, im sure it would beat the banshee, once again.
Outlander 800 HO EFI Price (MSRP): $8,749.00
If you get to spend 8750 plus tax, then so can I. And using the banshee or any other big bore sport quad I can spend that much and be dramatically faster than a stock outty 800 that costs the same.
Heck, give me that budget and I can purchase and make a few kawasaki 4x4's faster.
It's the best stock 4x4 out there as far as power goes, but for the price it had better be.
Posted by: maddog56
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Originally posted by: TrailxRider
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Originally posted by: maddog56
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Originally posted by: TrailxRider
For 9k! Then it isn't stock is it?? It's not even moderately modded! It's got tons of mods in it! We're talking about stock bombs, and maybe a little modding. Nothing huge. If I wanted to put 4 ish extra thousand into my bomb, im sure it would beat the banshee, once again.
Outlander 800 HO EFI Price (MSRP): $8,749.00
If you get to spend 8750 plus tax, then so can I. And using the banshee or any other big bore sport quad I can spend that much and be dramatically faster than a stock outty 800 that costs the same.
Heck, give me that budget and I can purchase and make a few kawasaki 4x4's faster.
It's the best stock 4x4 out there as far as power goes, but for the price it had better be.
You're changing the subject. We never said ANYTHING about who's bike was more expensive. We wanted to know WHO'S BIKE WOULD WIN IN A RACE. I told you the Outty would, and you disagreed and wanted proof, now you're trying to prove me wrong using the price tag?
Argue with someone who cares.
LOL, what thread are you reading when you replied here?
I never said anything either way about what a stock vs stock race would turn out as. I didn't disagree with you, and I sure as hell didn't call for proof. I'm not trying to prove you wrong about anything.
I just said that for the price the outty better be fast, because that much money into a number of other machines and you'd be even faster.
Posted by: maddog56
Is anyone else unimpressed by the fact that a brand new high-tech 4 stroke that costs nearly 9k dollars US can beat a sport quad that was released in the late 80's with less than half the displacement and costs 2/3 the price? The only impressive part is the power of the 800 overcoming the weight to make it a race.
I'd be posting about beating 450's or some of the big bore sport quads, if the 800 can beat them. I honestly haven't looked into it to know if they do or not.
Posted by: maddog56
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Originally posted by: BBR650
ya know honestly it should say somethin for can am and the outlander that we are even discussing this........700lb 4x4 utility vs 350-400lb sport bikes?
Yeah...I just mentioned that the only impressive part about the whole ordeal is the bike's power being great enough to overcome the weight.
Posted by: maddog56
BansheeGuy, I can't understand a damn word you're saying.
I mean, would a period somewhere really kill you?
Posted by: maddog56
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Originally posted by: DVXDUDE
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Originally posted by: Steveo10
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Originally posted by: maddog56
Is anyone else unimpressed by the fact that a brand new high-tech 4 stroke that costs nearly 9k dollars US can beat a sport quad that was released in the late 80's with less than half the displacement and costs 2/3 the price? The only impressive part is the power of the 800 overcoming the weight to make it a race.
I'd be posting about beating 450's or some of the big bore sport quads, if the 800 can beat them. I honestly haven't looked into it to know if they do or not.
no, im impressed
uhhhh...I'm pretty impressed. The outty is made as an UTILITY quad, for hauling stuff and going through mud. the banshee on the other hand is made for SPEED and drag racing...nothing more, yet it still has a tough time out-running a 700lb 4x4 bike lol
your obviously just pissed off about this and don't want to admit your wrong, so keep running your mouth...your the only one coming off like a idiot.
Have you even read this thread? I haven't said the outty can't beat it.
The banshee's engine is from a road bike w/o the pv's, in stock tune it's hardly a "drag only" machine.
We've got a 4-tec 1000, the engine is great as has been for a number of years. When you drop an engine like that into a quad, even when losing 200cc, I have every expectation for it to beat a number of sportier alternatives.
Posted by: enFORCER
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Originally posted by: BBR650
this guy acts like motof150 with his eiger...........give it up.....you wouldt have a hope or a prayer against my 450hr>
Hmmmm LOL, I'll take some of this action. Do you ever bring your 450 to St. Joe State park in Missouri?
Posted by: enFORCER
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Originally posted by: RDZ350
His' 535 is stock.LOL!!!!
LOL, it's got pipes...........
Posted by: enFORCER
Hmmm, you guys really don't need to bag on BansheeGuy69 so much. We all have are own opinions.
Posted by: enFORCER
Well, I don't know. It is kind of pricey. I think if I was going to shell out $9000 for an ATV I would probably cough up another grand and get the new Polaris RZR side by side.
Posted by: enFORCER
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Originally posted by: KFX400JUMPIN
an outlander 800 will beat a stock banshee, i ride with people that have both of these and we lined them up to drag and the outlander won it
Sure it will......... If they race in reverse!!!!!!!
Posted by: enFORCER
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Originally posted by: Steveo10
Pipe/reeds dont really help with top-end.
I disagree Sir. Pipes and reeds will make a difference on a stock Banshee. Especially the pipes. The stock exhaust on a Banshee is really worthless. It's way to restrictive.
Posted by: enFORCER
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Originally posted by: screwARCTICCAT
Wouldn't the Can-am Outlander 650 and the Yamaha Banshee be more on the same level?
Hmmm, the above statement could quite possibly be the stupidest thing I have ever heard............................
Posted by: enFORCER
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Originally posted by: Steveo10
How many more knots does it give you?
A set of pipes will let The Banshee rev higher. I have seen a 3-5 mph increase, depending on the kind of pipe used.
Posted by: ss97
The 800 is quicker to 250-feet but what about after that?
250-feet is nothing, I would expect a 4x4 with that much engine to take off like a rocket with all that traction. A 2wd with a lot of power loses a lot to wheel spin.
I can't imagine that a Banshee or a DS650 would not eventually catch and pass the Outlander...........
Posted by: ZillaRider87
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Originally posted by: BansheeGuy69
buy a real bike a 2 stroke no reverse no electric start pre mixed gas chain drive that 2 stroke rumble nothing like it and when u see the banshee pass the outty u have 2 say oh not possible pics oh i need vids ill send em as soon as i get em . a six speed 350 2 stroke twin being beat by a 800 outty what a laugh
haha your talking so much sh!t with your 'modified' banshee. banshees are fast bikes without a doubt but your talking about them like there your god.how about we take your 6 speed 350 2 stroke twin against my 5 speed 500cc single 2 stroke. ill even meet you half way to where you live sometime, that is if you will even show up.....
Posted by: Steveo10
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Originally posted by: maddog56
Is anyone else unimpressed by the fact that a brand new high-tech 4 stroke that costs nearly 9k dollars US can beat a sport quad that was released in the late 80's with less than half the displacement and costs 2/3 the price? The only impressive part is the power of the 800 overcoming the weight to make it a race.
I'd be posting about beating 450's or some of the big bore sport quads, if the 800 can beat them. I honestly haven't looked into it to know if they do or not.
no, im impressed
Posted by: Steveo10
link dont work?
Posted by: Steveo10
Pipe/reeds dont really help with top-end. Pipe will make your bike more torquey. To help with top end, get bigger tires and/or change your gearin
Posted by: Steveo10
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Originally posted by: enFORCER
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Originally posted by: Steveo10
Pipe/reeds dont really help with top-end.
I disagree Sir. Pipes and reeds will make a difference on a stock Banshee. Especially the pipes. The stock exhaust on a Banshee is really worthless. It's way to restrictive.
How many more knots does it give you?
Posted by: RDZ350
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Originally posted by: BansheeGuy69
go Race ? ive beat every big bore here for a 4x4 no problem 4 or 5th gear no sweet only bike i didnt beat was the 800 outlander if i passed my cousins 700 kawazaki no doubt ill pass the outlander theres only 2 bikes that beat me a stroker banshee that i kept up with in 5 gears and a ds 650 just barely pass me and the stock rev limiter for the ds 650 baja x is not 75 mph its 81 and this tread is for any 1 who has tried it and not about money for bikes ... thankyou
I raced my brother v-force with my 400 polaris sport.He didn't just run off and leave me.The v-force isn't the fastest bike out there.I really like it though.It has good power and very trail friendly(easy to ride/automatic).That said,my brother has had several people crash his' 700 because they underestimated what a new automatic quad could do.Just because it's automatic,doesn't mean it can't be powerful.They are impressive.I'm sure can-am has done their homework too and made an incrediable quad.I can't wait to ride one.
I agree with some of these guys.You just need to find one and race it.
If it beats ya,that's ok.Look at the million of mods available to ya.
Technology has helped the big bores alot.Just look back 5-10 years ago at what the industry called fast.It's just going to keep improving.Man,it's great how much the atv industry is improving.
If yamaha had been improving the banshee along the way like they did other quads then the banshee could have been insanely fast from the factory.
Please let us know when you race one.
Posted by: RDZ350
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Originally posted by: BansheeGuy69
yes because some ppl cant see the outty getting beat well face it it has been beat and by lots of racing bikes and where u guys live u have easy acess 2 parts and pipes mods right well i dont i live in newfoundland in a small town called terrenceville u got dunes we try all the bikes on pavement big streaches and for the record the ds 650 is most likely the fastest atv on the market so ... where does the outlander stand not with racers hahahaha
If it's your video,what's to say the race wasn't fixed.Maybe you had the outy slow down to where it looked like you really beat it?LOL!BR>
Man,the banshee I had would smoke your's if it is stock.
There's a ton of guys out there that could smoke me.
I don't like loosing either,but it's a fact of life that it will happen to all of us sooner or later.
Don't let it ruin having a good day of racing when it happens to you.
Whether it's from an outy or whatever.I've beat bikes I thought I couldn't and have been smoked by bikes I thought didn't have a chance.It happens.
Posted by: RDZ350
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Originally posted by: BansheeGuy69
Drag racing on sand is for babys go on the pavement and see what happens banshee winner all races the v force is garbage i was going 2 buy 1 but she could hardly beat a blaster and u got a pic ill tell u sumthing about it ok .... what bike spins rocks and sand more v foce or banshee the banhsee of course it has a powerr band all she is going 2 do is spin and loose traction and then the v force will beat her same result ha what a laugh go on pavement and race em ull see what bike is the fastest then all the racers do is spin think about what ur saying about a banshee or any racer being beat . dont be a fool ! ill prove u wrong
I know exactly what you mean.Lack of traction will cause a banshee get when it wouldn't if it hooked up.Most riding is done off road though.So in normal riding conditions,you better have some good tires for the area you're at.That said though the v-force is a good quad along with many others.There is plenty of other quads that will beat a stock banshee.There are some very fast 450's out there.Say at a 300 foot dirt track,These outy's,v-force,etc... will probably hook up better than a banshee and get ya off the line.That's doesn't leave ya alot of time to catch them and these new utility quads are very strong.
Posted by: RDZ350
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Originally posted by: BBR650
traction is a MAJOR key. its if your running dirt tires and your off highway the outty has the advantage....visco lok. there are guys around here like you, "lets race!" then they lose in the dirt/sand....then its " lets go race on the highway!" they are off road vehicles.....as far as im concerned 300ft is a drag race. race ya a renegade.....that is the 800 sport bike. then you can brag. if you want to actually race sport bike for sport bike i have one of those too.....our outtys arnt race bikes.
That is a good point.The banshee is a sport bike and the outy isn't.Even if they were even in a race,that would say alot for how far utility quads have come.Now if that utility quad beat the sport bike................?
Posted by: RDZ350
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Originally posted by: maddog56
Is anyone else unimpressed by the fact that a brand new high-tech 4 stroke that costs nearly 9k dollars US can beat a sport quad that was released in the late 80's with less than half the displacement and costs 2/3 the price? The only impressive part is the power of the 800 overcoming the weight to make it a race.
I'd be posting about beating 450's or some of the big bore sport quads, if the 800 can beat them. I honestly haven't looked into it to know if they do or not.
I totally see that also.The outy is an expensive quad but figure it is great for those that can afford them.I still like banshee and hope to ride an 800 soon,and I figure I'll like them too.
I'm not picking sides here.I think I'll like both.
Posted by: RDZ350
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Originally posted by: BBR650
ya know honestly it should say somethin for can am and the outlander that we are even discussing this........700lb 4x4 utility vs 350-400lb sport bikes?
I second that.
Posted by: RDZ350
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Originally posted by: BBR650
this guy acts like motof150 with his eiger...........give it up.....you wouldt have a hope or a prayer against my 450hr>
Are you calling him out?LOL!
Posted by: RDZ350
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Originally posted by: BBR650
i do go to st. joe from time to time. i dunno how it would fair against your 535 but i would give it all i could!
I think you would do against him.His' 535 is stock.LOL!!!!
Posted by: RDZ350
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Originally posted by: BansheeGuy69
listen u dont have drags on pavement like we do i dont know who any of u are and i dont even care if i get beat ill blow her away on a track if i cant drag race em ill beat them using skills besides how many ppl here can beat each other . listen i got a friend that ownes a blaster right and no 1 here can beat him and id like 2 see some of u beat him on a track bet half u cant race this is my whole point ppl race different and the way i drive i can keep up with a ds 650 baja x comes close to beating it its how u drive and what u drive point of all this is i can beat the outty
I have raced asphault.I run a 7.38 in the 1/8th mile with my 350.That was with spinning the rims inside the tires.When I got it to hook up,I wrecked it.It was too much machine for me.I think on that pass it would have gone in the 6's.It launched insanely hard.
I may know what I'm talking about.
If you can beat an outy on asphault,that's great but if you go somewhere to ride that's either dirt or sand and get beat by one,please don't be one of those guys that cry on and on about "if we were on aphault I'd win,I missed a gear,blah,blah,blah".It does appear your are.I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: RDZ350
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Originally posted by: BansheeGuy69
listen i dont say oh i missed a gear boo hoo im not like that if i loose well run em again and again if ya like i dont care alright im no wuss i race anyone anything anywhere
If you're not,fantastic.I bet you have met guys like this.
Posted by: RDZ350
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Originally posted by: BansheeGuy69
i need 2 ask what will vforce 3 reeds and fmf grarnly pipes with turbine core 2s will do 4 my bike any 1 know how much faster it will go ?
You probably won't be able to tell much difference with just reeds but the pipes should make a noticeable difference.If you don't ride in much mud or water,I would remove the airbox and buy K&N filters that clamp directly to the carbs.That combination of reeds,pipes,and filters should help it quite a bit.You would definitely be able to tell a difference just make sure to rejet it.
For a stock port banshee,I like Toomey T-5's.The FMF's would be an inprovement though.
Posted by: Dwags
yall need to pull ur head out ur @$$ and go ride. just go have fun dont bitch all the time
Posted by: way2fst
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Originally posted by: BansheeGuy69
alright there is ppl saying banshee cant beat the outty i speak for yamaha and all banshee owners its not going 2 happen in bombardiers dreams the outty still wouldnt win a race against the banshee
PLEASE dont speak for me.....i think u are retarded and run ur mouth too much with a K&n and BOOST BOTTLE to back it up......
u are a shame to banshee dudes across the land and i wouldnt be surprised if a outy beat ur banshee, shees are old bikes and the stock pipes plug em up and they need some $$ to really wake up.....
so do me a favor and please shut up.
Posted by: screwARCTICCAT
Wouldn't the Can-am Outlander 650 and the Yamaha Banshee be more on the same level?
Posted by: crazy1291
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Originally posted by: Dwags
yall need to pull ur head out ur @$$ and go ride. just go have fun dont bitch all the time
lol you used symbols to write @$$ but not bitch, if you're trying to be respectful by not saying ass, then why do you say bitch? it's a degrading term, darn it!
lmao
Posted by: powercat400dvx
hell guys, my piped dvx 400 will run 76 with no wind blowing.
Posted by: jonnyboy5662
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Originally posted by: BansheeGuy69
listen i dont say oh i missed a gear boo hoo im not like that if i loose well run em again and again if ya like i dont care alright im no wuss i race anyone anything anywhere
You ever raced a meerkat? What if I ride a meerkat... would you race me?
Im not talking about any kind of a tame meerkat... This thing is more of a Meerbeast!
Just kidding. I'll let you guys get back to your argument.
Posted by: jonnyboy5662
OH NO! I thought we put this thread to rest.
Posted by: BBR650
http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p208/pokeyz400/?action=view?t=MeCanAm.flv
http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p208/pokeyz400/?action=view?t=Me.flv
bansheeguy, leave it to rest. its ok to get beat by a 700lb bike with a winch and racks with 4x4. many ppl are learning this. it has been done, it takes a ds with a set of snows, full exhaust, cdi and a k&n to out run a stock outty.
i think you need to ask THE BOM about what kind of bikes the outtys will run.
Posted by: BBR650
im not arguing with anyone. the simple answer is GO RACE ONE. dont call ppl liars and say its not possible if you dont know.
Posted by: BBR650
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Originally posted by: BansheeGuy69
go Race ? ive beat every big bore here for a 4x4 no problem 4 or 5th gear no sweet only bike i didnt beat was the 800 outlander if i passed my cousins 700 kawazaki no doubt ill pass the outlander theres only 2 bikes that beat me a stroker banshee that i kept up with in 5 gears and a ds 650 just barely pass me and the stock rev limiter for the ds 650 baja x is not 75 mph its 81 and this tread is for any 1 who has tried it and not about money for bikes ... thankyou
700 kaw doesnt stand a chance in a race...prarie or v-force. we toy with those. i take it you have had a radar gun on the ds at the revlimiter?
Posted by: BBR650
wooo!!!!! your bragging about beating a utility... img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
Posted by: BBR650
traction is a MAJOR key. its if your running dirt tires and your off highway the outty has the advantage....visco lok. there are guys around here like you, "lets race!" then they lose in the dirt/sand....then its " lets go race on the highway!" they are off road vehicles.....as far as im concerned 300ft is a drag race. race ya a renegade.....that is the 800 sport bike. then you can brag. if you want to actually race sport bike for sport bike i have one of those too.....our outtys arnt race bikes.
Posted by: BBR650
ya know honestly it should say somethin for can am and the outlander that we are even discussing this........700lb 4x4 utility vs 350-400lb sport bikes?
Posted by: BBR650
this guy acts like motof150 with his eiger...........give it up.....you wouldt have a hope or a prayer against my 450
Posted by: BBR650
i do go to st. joe from time to time. i dunno how it would fair against your 535 but i would give it all i could!
Posted by: BBR650
lol, im sure i would eat sand, but ill give it my all!
Posted by: BBR650
outlander vs. drag z 400 and other 450's
Posted by: BBR650
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Originally posted by: BansheeGuy69
well dont reply to me and u shut ur big ol mouth and ill have pipes & reeds the summer y should i put all that on a brand new bike i just bought unless u can buy it 4 me
who was this to?
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outlander vid
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Originally posted by: RDZ350
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Originally posted by: BansheeGuy69
listen u dont have drags on pavement like we do i dont know who any of u are and i dont even care if i get beat ill blow her away on a track if i cant drag race em ill beat them using skills besides how many ppl here can beat each other . listen i got a friend that ownes a blaster right and no 1 here can beat him and id like 2 see some of u beat him on a track bet half u cant race this is my whole point ppl race different and the way i drive i can keep up with a ds 650 baja x comes close to beating it its how u drive and what u drive point of all this is i can beat the outty
I have raced asphault.I run a 7.38 in the 1/8th mile with my 350.That was with spinning the rims inside the tires.When I got it to hook up,I wrecked it.It was too much machine for me.I think on that pass it would have gone in the 6's.It launched insanely hard.
I may know what I'm talking about.
If you can beat an outy on asphault,that's great but if you go somewhere to ride that's either dirt or sand and get beat by one,please don't be one of those guys that cry on and on about "if we were on aphault I'd win,I missed a gear,blah,blah,blah".It does appear your are.I hope I'm wrong.
that was a nicer post of what i was going to say rdz.....
bansheeguy69 as far as our racing experience....you may not know us from adam but there are a few of us that DO know what we are talking about. there are some fast blasters out there....yes. it takes a whole lotta work to make them that fast. when we get back from THE CLASH OF THE TITANS ill give you some 300ft times of an 800 outlander with a pipe and paddles. please dont go attacking our racing credability......as you said you dont even know us!
Posted by: WisWolvyII
http://www.700v.com/racing.htm
Heres a mildly modded kfx beating a modfied banshee, if the kfx700 can do it, a stock banshee doesnt stand a chance agisnt the big bad 800.
Posted by: WisWolvyII
If your talking a 300 foot race an outty would beat a stock banshee, troque is what wins short drag and the banshees motor is not known for its torque and combine that with the hookup of 4wd and a cvt, the banshee doesnt stand a chance, i have also heard that the outlander can beat a stock raptor 700 in a drag and if thats the case a stock banshee wouldnt be too tough, RDZ brought up a good point, that these are off road vehicles and if it doesnt hook up in dirt,sand, etc. It doesnt win. i wont argue that the banshee has limitless potential for power, but in "real life" a stock 800 will beat a stock banshee.
Posted by: WisWolvyII
Except "MotoF150" was more believeable
Posted by: TrailxRider
Lol you made another..Nice..
Seriously, we know what we're talking about. If 8 people all say you're wrong, just admit you're wrong. Don't go make another topic..
It's beating a DS
Posted by: TrailxRider
HE DID TRY IT!
THERE IS A PICTURE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
You have been proven wrong, stop being retarded!
Posted by: TrailxRider
...You've been proven wrong, just get over it.. I personally don't have a video, I'm sure someone does. Ask around..
Posted by: TrailxRider
For 9k! Then it isn't stock is it?? It's not even moderately modded! It's got tons of mods in it! We're talking about stock bombs, and maybe a little modding. Nothing huge. If I wanted to put 4 ish extra thousand into my bomb, im sure it would beat the banshee, once again.
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Originally posted by: TrailxRider
For 9k! Then it isn't stock is it?? It's not even moderately modded! It's got tons of mods in it! We're talking about stock bombs, and maybe a little modding. Nothing huge. If I wanted to put 4 ish extra thousand into my bomb, im sure it would beat the banshee, once again.
Outlander 800 HO EFI Price (MSRP): $8,749.00
If you get to spend 8750 plus tax, then so can I. And using the banshee or any other big bore sport quad I can spend that much and be dramatically faster than a stock outty 800 that costs the same.
Heck, give me that budget and I can purchase and make a few kawasaki 4x4's faster.
It's the best stock 4x4 out there as far as power goes, but for the price it had better be.
You're changing the subject. We never said ANYTHING about who's bike was more expensive. We wanted to know WHO'S BIKE WOULD WIN IN A RACE. I told you the Outty would, and you disagreed and wanted proof, now you're trying to prove me wrong using the price tag?
Argue with someone who cares.
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Originally posted by: TrailxRider
For 9k! Then it isn't stock is it?? It's not even moderately modded! It's got tons of mods in it! We're talking about stock bombs, and maybe a little modding. Nothing huge. If I wanted to put 4 ish extra thousand into my bomb, im sure it would beat the banshee, once again.
Outlander 800 HO EFI Price (MSRP): $8,749.00
If you get to spend 8750 plus tax, then so can I. And using the banshee or any other big bore sport quad I can spend that much and be dramatically faster than a stock outty 800 that costs the same.
Heck, give me that budget and I can purchase and make a few kawasaki 4x4's faster.
It's the best stock 4x4 out there as far as power goes, but for the price it had better be.
You're changing the subject. We never said ANYTHING about who's bike was more expensive. We wanted to know WHO'S BIKE WOULD WIN IN A RACE. I told you the Outty would, and you disagreed and wanted proof, now you're trying to prove me wrong using the price tag?
Argue with someone who cares.
LOL, what thread are you reading when you replied here?
I never said anything either way about what a stock vs stock race would turn out as. I didn't disagree with you, and I sure as hell didn't call for proof. I'm not trying to prove you wrong about anything.
I just said that for the price the outty better be fast, because that much money into a number of other machines and you'd be even faster.
I'm thinking you are Banshee..lol. Misunderstanding. My fault.
Posted by: TrailxRider
..The Brute Force and the Outty are two COMPLETELY different animals...But, whatever, it's your opinion.
Posted by: TrailxRider
Pics? Video? Wanna be a little more specific..?
Posted by: TrailxRider
Having an opinion and voicing it egotistically for all to hear are two different things. Personally, I give up arguing with him. No matter what we say he's going to say his bike is better...
Posted by: TrailxRider
Exactly.
Posted by: DVXDUDE
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Originally posted by: Steveo10
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Originally posted by: maddog56
Is anyone else unimpressed by the fact that a brand new high-tech 4 stroke that costs nearly 9k dollars US can beat a sport quad that was released in the late 80's with less than half the displacement and costs 2/3 the price? The only impressive part is the power of the 800 overcoming the weight to make it a race.
I'd be posting about beating 450's or some of the big bore sport quads, if the 800 can beat them. I honestly haven't looked into it to know if they do or not.
no, im impressed
uhhhh...I'm pretty impressed. The outty is made as an UTILITY quad, for hauling stuff and going through mud. the banshee on the other hand is made for SPEED and drag racing...nothing more, yet it still has a tough time out-running a 700lb 4x4 bike lol
your obviously just pissed off about this and don't want to admit your wrong, so keep running your mouth...your the only one coming off like a idiot.
Posted by: daron
hahah!!!! I got something for all of you. My Red and Black 1985 1/2 Yamaha Tri-Z 250 will take all of you to school. Its sleeved, ported, reeds, jetted, full exhaust, and geared perfectly. What do you say to that?? hahah!!!! I have beaten numerous of the following; banshee, blaster, DS650, Grizz 700, Raptor 660, Grizz 700, Rincons, 200X, 350X, and a few dirt bikes. I haven't come across anyone around here with a outlander, but if I see one I'll be sure to challenge. If its not that much faster than a DS650 it doesn't stand a chance.
Posted by: daron
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttt!!!!!! I FARTED!!!!!! BR>
My Tri-Z will beat the outlander 800 or the renegade 800 in a drag race and then it would pull it through the mud. HAHAHAH!!!!!! 3 wheels are better than 4
Posted by: daron
HHAHAHAHAH!!!!! I'm glad I'm from Texas where you can own what you want. Who doesn't like 3 wheelers??? I like 4 wheelers to, but I started riding a honda atc 70 when I was 2 and by the time I was 4 I was on a big red 250ES. 3 wheelers are not dangerous, inexperienced riders are dangerous. Its like sueing the tobacco company for getting cancer. No one forced them to buy a 3 wheeler, and no one told them to ride like morons. How is that I was 2 years old riding a three wheeler and didn't get hurt??? Anyways, I have one and they are popular as sh it right now. Just look at ebay. Thousands of dollars are being spent on them. More than they cost brand new. I would like to see how your banshee stacks up against my Tri-Z. Oh and just so you know I have nothing against quads as I own two of those and I'm also currently looking for a banshee, so no, I'm not a banshee hater. My point is, to everyone, riding atvs is supposed to be fun. A way to get out of the rut of the weekday jobs and all of that bullsh it. Who cares whose atv is faster or stronger. Ride what you got and have fun.
Posted by: daron
I would have to say no the outlanders are fast for sport utes but comparing them to any racing quad is a joke. It would be a decent race until the outty started running out of gear with that automatic tranny. Then the 6 th gear of most racing quads would walk away.
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
Someone needs to try these bikes or the ds 650 vs 800 outlader I know that bike isnt what they say it is !
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
Dont reply to me unless someone tries it dont make up anything dont go around and say it can when u dont try them
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
good for him he never tried me did he me and that person is not the same i can probaly drive better u never know
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
i seen the pic the outlander got mods pipes 2 and i do NOT see 1 banshee only a ds 650 and u need the video if u want 2 prove me wrong
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
well a friends uncle is bring a 800 outlander here the summer soo i gess until then no 1 know if a stock banshee beats outty . if i get my pipes and reads the summer it will be easy then ...
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
My name is wayne ok and i know the bike got balls at lower end but mine dont have all that strong of bottom end i know that so i bought a boost bottle which did make a difference and a k&n air filter for more air flow nothing is keeping my bike from hitting 80 mph she will do it and ill pass the outlander on top end no doubt about it maybe ill keep up in mid range because if i could keep up with a banshee like mine that is a stroker in all gears u know i can shift fast and hit the power band at the right rpm outlander has wa about 8000 rpm mine revs out at 10500 big difference all i need 2 do 82 mph sure is 22 x 11 x 9 tires
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
go Race ? ive beat every big bore here for a 4x4 no problem 4 or 5th gear no sweet only bike i didnt beat was the 800 outlander if i passed my cousins 700 kawazaki no doubt ill pass the outlander theres only 2 bikes that beat me a stroker banshee that i kept up with in 5 gears and a ds 650 just barely pass me and the stock rev limiter for the ds 650 baja x is not 75 mph its 81 and this tread is for any 1 who has tried it and not about money for bikes ... thankyou
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
Your right ... but its not a outlander or a banshee is it ask sum 1 2 try those bikes not ur tri-z 250
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
Two guys from here were racing on a banshee and a ds 650 the banshee had bigger tires that messed with her gear ratios more apart right ... less bottom end the bikes were close when the banshee was mixed lean and we didnt use a radar gun we used a gps on both the ds 650 baja x version was at 82 mph with 2 people on her 81 with 1 person and the banshee at 80 mph 1 person
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
i said the brute force because its in the outlanders class u see for big bore vtwins
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
the banshee cannot keep up at take off i figured that but as soon as 4 gear was in they side by side and the banshee ate her on top end i told u so i told u so the outty isnt a racer its the fastest ... in 4x4
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
we got 2 much snow right now and i never brought i camera because i would get broke when the snow goes dont worry ill have the pics and vids allover this site
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
yes because some ppl cant see the outty getting beat well face it it has been beat and by lots of racing bikes and where u guys live u have easy acess 2 parts and pipes mods right well i dont i live in newfoundland in a small town called terrenceville u got dunes we try all the bikes on pavement big streaches and for the record the ds 650 is most likely the fastest atv on the market so ... where does the outlander stand not with racers hahahaha
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
Drag racing on sand is for babys go on the pavement and see what happens banshee winner all races the v force is garbage i was going 2 buy 1 but she could hardly beat a blaster and u got a pic ill tell u sumthing about it ok .... what bike spins rocks and sand more v foce or banshee the banhsee of course it has a powerr band all she is going 2 do is spin and loose traction and then the v force will beat her same result ha what a laugh go on pavement and race em ull see what bike is the fastest then all the racers do is spin think about what ur saying about a banshee or any racer being beat . dont be a fool ! ill prove u wrong
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
What planet half of ye comming from mars a 700 r efi ratpor is the fastest bike on market that is stock not mild performance bla bla garbage pipes makes some difference 2 y dont ya go take ur bikes 2 where i live show u all haow 2 drive not just in a drag and the outty is beatable i did it the raptor will do it the yfz will do it the ds can do it 4 sure dont be a cry baby these bikes are racers no big deal being beat admit to it i know the outtys not the fastest if the 400 outty cant pass a blaster what is 400 more ccs going 2 do pass my big bear woop dee doo im sooo ashamed . buy a real bike a 2 stroke no reverse no electric start pre mixed gas chain drive that 2 stroke rumble nothing like it and when u see the banshee pass the outty u have 2 say oh not possible pics oh i need vids ill send em as soon as i get em . a six speed 350 2 stroke twin being beat by a 800 outty what a laugh
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
alright there is ppl saying banshee cant beat the outty i speak for yamaha and all banshee owners its not going 2 happen in bombardiers dreams the outty still wouldnt win a race against the banshee
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
hey id love 2 race ya but i live in newfoundland i cant get my bike there for a race i wish i could
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
ill get a motor cycle later on if i dont the banshee is getting a 750 tripple stroker well see whats fast then ill have a lot of welding and ciustomization but its going in her
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
well dont reply to me and u shut ur big ol mouth and ill have pipes & reeds the summer y should i put all that on a brand new bike i just bought unless u can buy it 4 me
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
some guy that told me to shut up and other crap thats who i said it to
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
listen u dont have drags on pavement like we do i dont know who any of u are and i dont even care if i get beat ill blow her away on a track if i cant drag race em ill beat them using skills besides how many ppl here can beat each other . listen i got a friend that ownes a blaster right and no 1 here can beat him and id like 2 see some of u beat him on a track bet half u cant race this is my whole point ppl race different and the way i drive i can keep up with a ds 650 baja x comes close to beating it its how u drive and what u drive point of all this is i can beat the outty
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
listen i dont say oh i missed a gear boo hoo im not like that if i loose well run em again and again if ya like i dont care alright im no wuss i race anyone anything anywhere
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
I meet worse and been in pretty intense races
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
I was going 2 reply when i has sum pics of us racing but sum 1 wants 2 argue again actual video footage or serious pic of the 2 bikes alone please
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
i need 2 ask what will vforce 3 reeds and fmf grarnly pipes with turbine core 2s will do 4 my bike any 1 know how much faster it will go ?
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
a guy from here had old set of dg pipes on a recked out banshee with 260's jets ? or more sumthing like that anyways and he had a k&n air filter it had 2 make a difference if i kept up with him in 1 2 3 4 5 in 6th he passed me like nothing im guessing the 22 x 11 x 9 tires had 2 play along with that maybe that banshee even beat a ds 650 the baja x ... actually played with it on top end what do anything think about difference pipes makes on a 2 stroke ?
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
Yeah that sounds right 3-5 mph increase thats not bad but what about the vforce 3 reeds too im sure that will help more than 3-5 mph for sure and daron no 1 cares about ur 3 wheeler u know if ur caught here in canada with one they get chopped up because there outlawed ppl got killed on them and 4 wheels are better than 3 anything between 2 and 4 wheels is junk
Posted by: BansheeGuy69
Hey daron i see ur point yeah 3 wheelers are popular in the states but you cant have any in canada i had a yamaha tri moto 125 when i was younger and that old thing was 1980 and i bet if i still had it i could wheelie longer than anybike made those old bike are fun ill give em that for speed and a good time hey
the banshees i dont like very much tell u the truth they rattle apart and mine is experincing a new sound after being clocked off at 79 mph with slicks for tires and no baffles took them out for sound but if ull agree with me the outty cannot keep up with some racing bikes like my bike the yfz 450 the 700 raptor or the ds 650 baja x
Posted by: KFX400JUMPIN
an outlander 800 will beat a stock banshee, i ride with people that have both of these and we lined them up to drag and the outlander won it
