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Originally posted by: garyc660R
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Your just mad because you can't gain 18hp from bolt ons.hr>
Well, sh!t, I might as well trade my Rappy in for a 400 EX if I want beat everyones a$$ in a drag. All I gotta do is get a fancier seat and some chrome lug nuts and I'll get an extra 4 HP. WOO HOO!BR>
And Redhornet... nobody cares about straight line speed except EVMAN. We're just telling him what's real and what's fantasy.
Posted by: SickSixtyRider
Come on EVMAN, lets hear another one about how you beat a Raptor modded with a R1 motor with a 250 Timberwolf in a hillclimb. Its Monday and I want to start the week off with a good laugh.
Posted by: 4wheel4food
I gotta stand up for my bike...I have a '03 Z400 and I love it...Do i care about drag racing,
NO...But 60-65 will get me there fast enough...It eats trails(dirt,sand, rocks, whatever) alive...
I love this bike because I ride with people who have all diff. kinds of bikes from 660 Grizzlies
to 660 Raptors, etc. and it never fails to get me anywhere they are all going...If you wanna
ride balls to the wall, it can do that..It you wanna tackle technical trail rides, it will do that...
I have ridden most of my buddies bikes(raptor 660, kodiak 400, predator, sportsman,etc.) and
I haven't found one yet that even comes close to my Z...That's just my opinion....My best advice
to people who are looking to buy, is to try and ride one before buying one....If that is not an option
it's really a crap shoot as to which one you will like the best...Good luck and let us know what
you end up with....
Posted by: Evasiveone
I agree with looking at the Z400.
But since you stated you do not like the looks of the Z400 you need to look at the '07 Predator 500. For 2007 they lowered the price of the Predator 500 to $5999. There is no comparison performance wise between the ol' 400ex and the 500 Predator. Those Preddies are fast as hell and look damn good.
Go sit on all the different bikes and see which one strikes your fancy. But for the price I would look real hard at the Z400 and Predator 500, especially the Preddy.
Posted by: Evasiveone
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Originally posted by: EVMAN
dude are you smoking the 400ex stock top speed is 76mph that is what the manfacture even says it is. And the ds 650 is not better it is a really good dune machine but other then that it takes the rest of that power that it has to pull around its almost 500 pound body. when the 400ex only weighs 378. Also the top speed of the 450er is 83mph out of the box not barely 70mph SRY buddy your wrong.......
You are not getting out of this that easy.
You keep saying that you are right and we are a bunch of hemp smoking idiots and we need to look up the facts. I think maybe you should show us these facts. Because we could look for a year and not find facts to back up your statements.
No 400ex is going to hit 76 mph stock. Like everyone has already told you 65-68 stock. And no 450 is going to go 83 mph out of the box. In fact no bike sold today is going to go much over 75 mph stock for liability reasons. Even the 683 cc EFI 700R has a speed limiter that retards the timing to limit it to 74 mph.
You need to pull your head out of the magazines (and other places) and listen to people that know what these quads can do personally and not just read about it.
Posted by: themartinz
I have two 05 Honda 400EXs that I bought about 3 months ago. They were brand new so I got them for $4999. I bought them for friends to ride. If you want a lot more bang for your buck...go with the Predator 500. Cheaper than the Honda, but night and day more powerful. Z400 is probably in between the Predator and the Honda performance wise. Hondas are definitley reliable. Go to Pismo and try to rent a 400...you will only see Hondas!
Posted by: Fulltiltrider
Originally posted by: EVMAN
A raptor with a r1 engine dood that would be horrible at the climb of hill climbing that i do it would just spin back tires and grab and flip it and roll down the hill
Ill have you know that a r1 powered zilla was the fastest thing up the beaverdale hillclimb last weekend. not just the fastest quad, the fastest thing. it even beat a bike with a kz 900 2 stroke motor
by the way i bet my deathtrap will do 80 in 3rd
Posted by: nathanpri08
Whoever said there 400ex whent 70-75mph is off there medication!My 400ex had respectible mods and at best it would go 68mph.My ds goes 70-75mph on a lucky day pushing her a little.yoshiequipped your exagerating just a little or ALOT.Dont mean to call you a liar but that 400ex just isnt that fast.Sh*t if they where that fast i would have kept mine and not sold it for my ds650x.
Posted by: nathanpri08
Put my buick skylark against any stock honda civic.lol.Atleat i can say its not a 4cylinder.
Posted by: duneracer500
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Originally posted by: Chipper00792
I am trying to decide bewtween the brand new 400ex( Which im really considering of getting) and a raptor 660 2005, both would be completely stock and i would probally never put any mods on it which one would you choose and would be the overall better quad, and i mean not just how fast they are, there handling and overall performance to. I would mostly just be riding thru woods and open fields.
Thanks
If I were you I would go with the Raptor 660. Nevermind the fact that its 260 cc's higher and has reverse. Its also a Yamaha. Honda may be the best on earth, but when it comes to sport quads theres nothing better than a good old Yamaha. As far as top speed goes, you might get 5 mph higher with the Raptor. Raptor tops anywhere from 70 - 75. The Honda look for anything between 65 - 70. The raptor handles a-lot better, its better on trails, it has a more confortable seat, and also has reverse.
Hope this helps.
Posted by: duneracer500
Thats nothing guys. Listen to this funny load of bull.
In that ATV Source Forum, I had a guy tell me his KFX 700 could run 85 stock. Then, he told me his buddy had a banshee that would do over 100. I was wanting to talk to guys knowledgeable of atv's, that right there made me change my forum. Even though, after I corrected the little weasel everyone went killer on me and they all ganged up on me telling me I didn't know what I was talking about.
Thankfully, I found this forum where people who know their abc's to atv forums.
Posted by: crazy1291
TO CHIPPER00792 (TOPIC STARTER) if you can afford a 2007 400ex, which costs 5999$USD msrp, why dont you buy a brand new z400 or a brand new pred? they all cost the same, and polaris has greatly improved the reliability of the pred in the last few years.
TO EVMAN (THE GUY WITH A 45HP 400EX) I have just one question............... when you raced the banshee and the raptor.......... WERE....... THE QUADS........ RUNNING?????? LMAO, YOU REALLY THOUGHT YOU COULD BEAT A BANSHEE AND A RAPTOR WITH YOUR 45HP 400EX.
WELL MAYBE THE RAPTOR TIPPED OVER AND THE BANSHEE WAS GETTING A REBUILD (NO OFFENSE SHEE AND RAPPY RIDERS, im just having some fun)
or maybe....... HE PULLED ON SPARK PLUG ON THE BANSHEE, (WHICH BASICALLY TURNS IT INTO AN OVERWEIGHT BLASTER) AND HE SOAKED THE RAPTOR'S AIR FILTER IN WATER, AND PUT SAND IN HIS ENGINE OIL? OR MAYBE HE EVEN SWITCHED THE GAS, PREMIX IN THE RAPPY- REGULAR IN THE BANSHEE. THAT SHOULD FFFF THEM UP PRETTY GOOD. lmao, thanks for giving us something to laugh about--- here's a link to submit your story at........ comedy central aka jokes.com
Posted by: crazy1291
just calm down............... this is not a battle ground
Posted by: crazy1291
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Originally posted by: squirterboy
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Originally posted by: duneracer500
Thats nothing guys. Listen to this funny load of bull.
In that ATV Source Forum, I had a guy tell me his KFX 700 could run 85 stock. Then, he told me his buddy had a banshee that would do over 100. I was wanting to talk to guys knowledgeable of atv's, that right there made me change my forum. Even though, after I corrected the little weasel everyone went killer on me and they all ganged up on me telling me I didn't know what I was talking about.
Thankfully, I found this forum where people who know their abc's to atv forums.
my uncle gets around 106 mph on his banshee so it dusnt surprise me
that banshee isnt stock though- and i doubt a stock kfx700 does 85 mph- its more like high 70s or 80 mph- my friends dad's been pulled over for going 130kmh (80mph approximately) in a 80kmh zone
Posted by: Yoshiequipped
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Originally posted by: Chipper00792
what do u think the top speed of the 2007 400ex would be if it was stock?
the top speed on my 05 400ex was about 73-75 mph. thats layed over the gas tank complaetly wound out, i dont weight but 140 pounds so that gives it a little more speed right there. now with my pipe and fully broke in motor i have been clocked at 80 on my new one and 85 goin down hill on my first 05 which blew flames out both sides about 10 feet long while trail riding. (honda dealership didnt put the oil line on the top of the motor on all the way and it blew it back off and ignited the oil) scariest experience in my life!
Posted by: Yoshiequipped
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Originally posted by: SickSixtyRider
Unbelieveable. How does Honda even compete?!
big name and reliability, basic design makes for esay repairs and ease of maintainance. sometimes the most simple designs are the best!
Posted by: Yoshiequipped
how you just gonna tell me what my 400 will do? were you there? ok then, point proven. but no BS! my friends where following me down a major road at clocked me at 80 on cruise control following me. so argue that. (sicksixtyrider)
Posted by: BBR650
i do agree that comparing the two is like comparing a metro to a mustang, but a 400 ex has its place a good trail bike especially now that it has reverse. the downfall it has is that it is air cooled. i have had an 03 and 04 raptors and liked the rides of them both. i agree about swapping the stock rear tires out. when you want them to slide they wont and when you want them to hook they wont. your preference will make your decicion, what kind of riding you do and what you ride with. a little word of warning, if you buy a 400 anything dont get mad at the utility's that are gonna pick on you.....my lil 650 outty likes stock and piped 400's for snacks. so if it were me 660 it, if i was going to do it again,(which im thinkin seriously) i would have another 04 660.
Posted by: Chipper00792
I am trying to decide bewtween the brand new 400ex( Which im really considering of getting) and a raptor 660 2005, both would be completely stock and i would probally never put any mods on it which one would you choose and would be the overall better quad, and i mean not just how fast they are, there handling and overall performance to. I would mostly just be riding thru woods and open fields.
Thanks
Posted by: Chipper00792
Yeah i feel the same way, does anyone have the new 2007 400ex?
Posted by: Chipper00792
what do u think the top speed of the 2007 400ex would be if it was stock?
Posted by: Chipper00792
Well i think personally you are both on crack, but whatever u say...... I think the z400 isnt the most appealing atv like the colors yellow with blue seat, if im gonna spend that much money i want it to look sharp like the new 400ex's do
Posted by: Chipper00792
Well the more and more i read about the brand new z400 the more i like itmfrom waht ive read it is better than the 400ex with a little bit more power and its liquid cooled which is a plsu since the 400ex is air cooled(which i hear isnt the greatest) so is the z400 as good as it sounds?
Posted by: Chipper00792
Well when isaid they didnt look good i wa particualary talking about the yellow and blue seated one but now i see the black one and it looks really cool
Posted by: 1128633636
Now Now Raptor13, to your shagrin not everyone has only ridden one or two bikes in this forum.... There's some good banter back and fourth.... But whoever said anything stock does 83mph is smok-n bad stuff and needs a little reality adjustment.... I believe "Redhornet" from Murrieta Ca. said it best "if I can keep up with my friends" it's all good. Seriously I ride all sand dunes here in So Cal (Glamis/Dumont). There is only so fast you can go before the front end comes up and steering is an after-thought. I do admit, don't have a clue on the riding style in Wis, Ok or N Car. I'm guesing woods and trails ? Could be wrong... But truley, nothing sucks power out of a machine like sand (so that's my measuring stick). And from where I come from it's alway's a HP to weight ratio that wins (up the big competition hills) regardless of MFG. If you have the money to go lighter, while thowing in CCs fuel and air, you'll win... That's just the simple nature of physics....Trust me, I got my doors blown off at the beginning..(04 KFX700)...
NOW 796cc w/ 11.5 comp, Crower 254 degree cams, mild port, Empi (FST) duel 44mm down draft carb, Dalton full clutch, HMF Duel Exhaust, FST CDI box, Works shocks, Skat trak Extremems and a little VP110 gas...the rest is bling......................Build your bike; have fun ! And ride safe........That's the most important goal
Posted by: raptor13
This is a funny forum---------I dont get the love for the honda 400 ex, this quad is rear heavy, powerless, and from my accounts not very dependable. This is not a quad to compare to the 660. It is however a good one to buy your wife to retreave refreshments for the guys. Dont buy the RHonda ex, its for girls or guys who like abuse. You will be sucking hind tit from everyone on the trail except for the poor guy that fell in love with the 300ex and dumped all of his piggybank money into building the S&&T out of a dust eating man b%^ch. As you can tell I think hondas are great for kids but as soon as the hair pops out you need to ride something else preferably a YAMI. Yamaha has slapped the competition around for years and from the recent rides doestn look like its changing. Raptors are the ONLY 4 stroke quads to consider in my veiw. All of the tip happy, too torquey reveiws on here are a joke, Ive had a 2001 for years and never experieinced these occurances, although I will say the banshees still rule if you ride in the desert or large open areas.
Posted by: raptor13
13 is my old number from racing, I have 3 quads presently and Ill let you choose which one you would like to take a beat down from, here goes- 06 raptor 700 r slight mods, 02 banshee major mods(78 rwhp but will still only run around 92 because of gearing), or the suzuki quadmaster 50.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I new you were a pansie, picking the quadmaster. I telll you what Ill take a bicycle as you suggested and you bring the rhonda 400, At least on the bike Ill still have my dignity. I just love this forum, some with knowledge some without you being the latter of the two. As I said the Rhonda 400 is a good quad if your a pippled up teen with raging horemones or for anyone who sports panties albeit girls or freaks. Go home, service yourself, get rid of some of that poisen and come back on here when you can think clearly.
Posted by: raptor13
EVMAN, cool off man your losing your mind. Raced a raptor and banshee and beat them on a 400ex???????? Are you SH&TING ME!!!! The last time I checked this was an atv forum, not EVMAN in wonderland. Hey IM the biggest critic of honda ATVs and think that they fell off the wagon after the 250r and the 3bie 350x. Hell a 400 ex cant even beat those. Maybe on planet zolar things are completely reversed. All of you guys on here spouting this dung are very entertaining. Ill give the 400 ex credit for being a good trail quad because it doesnt have enough power to get you in trouble. Regardless of that its all about what you like I guess but keep the bull to a minimum. And be carefull about what you claim to be factual, REALITY BITES and it rides a YAMI>
Posted by: raptor13
Evman, again with these antics. What are we to do with you. These raptors and 450s your refering to must have 600 lb riders if your stoppong and waiting on them. If you want and like the 400ex than be our guest but these hp claims sound like something out of a import car mag. Maybe you just have a complex about your quad and feel that you have to build it up. I will give you some advice, the bolt ons that youve done dont add up individually, for instance lets say these are advertised gains from manufactors 7hp pipe, 5 hp filter kit, 3 hp jettting. added together you have an additional 15 hp, but this is not the case. Some boltons negate total effect just as they do in building a car engine. thes mods together would probably net you aroud 9hp. Soooo the bolt ons you have vs the Hp you claim are short of a miracle. I guess my raptor has a net of 32 more hp because i have a pipe, air kit, hot cam, and a power programmer. Just added all the best case numbers from the manufactor. sound about right. Wrong, I can tell you its never been dynoed and certainly doesnt have that kind of HP. Another thing to consider is peak hp numbers can be very deceiving. If you make minimal hp uup to 4500 rpm and then make the magic number fro about 1500 rpm a well tuned, and planned quad identical to yours that makes more usable hp and torque longer than you will crush you and probably have a little less peak HP> Keep riding the Rhonda if you like. For us men will take something with more of the wow factor.
Posted by: raptor13
Evman, forgot to comment on your rant about honda being the winningest quad. That is a stupid comparison. Thats like saying an acura won most of the scca races and you bought one and said its faster and better than a Viper. Another point, I raced semi pro in california for 6-7 years back around 90-98. I raced banshees when we were ALOWED to race the 250r. We constantly mopped the floor with them, 2 years later the honda guys cried so much they made us sleeve the banshees down so that they could keep up. Basing your quad purchase on mx racing is fine but keep your comparisons in the same class. 400 ex vs. yfz450----NO 400ex vs. Raptor 660 or 700----------NO 400ex vs 350 raptor or warrior----------maybe. Hondas answer was the 450r, and thats not impressive.
Posted by: raptor13
I think we may have scared evie off. If my calculations are correct, evman may be 10 to 13 years of age- from a planet not of this solar system- and high on kool-aid and cheetos. Got to love post from these guys, the are radically funny. It seems on these forums that whatever you own is the best regarless of fact, and that skill will over come all. This is a crazy world we live in where raptors, banshees, zillas, 450s are all whipping boys for the 400ex- you know its funny just to type this. Evman I have a bone stock 05 raptor, I would race you for the title to your spacecraft. This is an age old argument- its always (i beat a raptor) or (I beat a banshee). At least we can see who set the mark. YAMAHA I would like to stir another pot- Evman and all of you other Rhonda fans- I could bet that your all big import car fans too. It seems that this is the same BS that you here any friday night on the streets about honda cars. Trash ball civics with junkyard swaps and ebay turbo systems pushing monster HP numbers( that would be about 200 hp for all of us here on earth but on planet zolar its huge)
Posted by: Toolboy
My brothers 400 ex is stock and it goes 65-70 max. I don't see how you are getting much more speed without incredible mods. I'm not calling anyone a liar, I would just have to see it to believe it. Other 400's we ride with have similar performance as my brothers.
On a side note saw a stock trx honda 450 go all out against a bomb Outy 800 with 28" Dirt Devils on it. The bomb took off and let by 2 quads and held it all the way to top end which was the same for both. They went at it for about 3/4 of a mile.
Posted by: redhornet
As a brand new ATV rider, (rode MX 20 years ago) I chose the 400ex for its proven reliability and all-around trail bike effectiveness. I bought my early teen boys the 250ex so there was no need to go any bigger for me since I'd have to stay with them anyway.
I clearly have a solid trail bike with ample power, good reliability and a balanced ride. When the time comes, I will certainly look for more power and either mod the ex or buy something better out of the box like the Z400 or a Raptor.
To each his own. You need to know what you plan on doing with the bike before you buy. If you just want to impress your friends on the drag strip, buy the Raptor. If you want to go on 40 mile desert rides and not worry about anything, buy the Honda. I don't need to race any body or impress anybody, I just want to ride and have fun without the hassle.
Posted by: redhornet
I don't get the fascination with top speed and drag racing. Is this grammar school?
It's about fun and what's right for you. I ride trails and don't need to hit 60 mph. I need handling, reliability. I don't hang out with the beer croud racing up and down a sand hill all day. I expect to be able to ride till my tank's half empty and ride back, and have some fun on the way without worrying about blowing up.
To each his own. Honda makes a fine machine and obviously a top seller or they wouldn't have kept it the same all these years. Only lately are some of these other bikes catching up. Honda will likely update the old horse soon and blow them all away again.
Don't knock someone elses choice. Not everybody wants to fly off 20 ft jumps at 50 mph, some of us just want to ride and not worry about keeping the front end down, or having an engine problem 15 miles from the truck.
Lighten up ya'll.
Posted by: redhornet
Being fairly new to the sport, and the proud owner of a 07 400ex, I am curious as to why there is so much emphasis on racing and head-to-head speed on these boards. If you want to race back and forth up sand dunes or down a flat drag strip, go buy the fastest quad you can find and you can fluff your tail feathers in everybodies face. Who fricken cares how fast you can go in a straight line?
Buy the quad you need for the type of riding you'll do. If you ride trails like me, get a 400ex or a Z400, if you want to race, buy the race ready quads. If you just want to show off, buy the biggest quad you can find, mod the heck out of it and watch your dollars float away with your dragstrip wins.
Comparing head to head speed in quads that are designed for different tasks is like comparing an F-150 to a BMW M3.
Lets get real people.
Posted by: redhornet
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Originally posted by: EVMAN
straight line speed i do not care about the top speed of my ATV i do not care what it is as long as i can keep up with everyone else which i do not have a problem with, me and my cousin ride almost every day he has the ltr 450 and his quad has never made it up any hill that mine has not. I have made it up hills my first try that took him twice 3 times which says i have pleanty of power. ME and him are always saying whoes the best why is mine good and why his is good. I never said mine was the fastest either i know mine definetily is not the fastest we raced several times i got close a couple of times but his is just to fast. But all i can tell you is when me and him and alot of other people on a variety of quads are riding we are always having to stop and wait for them and most of them have 700 raptors and 450's And dont tell me about I have made it up hils that raptors cannot get up my friend went up it and couldnt get up it so i dont know wut your talking about the raptor is the best impossible to beat. i am simply telling you wut i have beet and what i havent beat. And with the horspower . instead of talking crap why dont you just go look it up it is not hard those facts i put are all acurate you can find them all if you look 5 minutes on the internet if ya just took the time. SO why dont you all go do some reaserch on the 06 400ex look up all the parts and read about them learn about that exact quad and then come back and talk to me when you know what you are talking about
Again, my point is....if you want to ride with many other people of varying degrees of skill and machine, don't buy a 400ex or plan on modding the heck out of it, or buy the biggest fastest quad you can find.
I bought my ex for its reliability and overall ability to handle anything I can throw at it. If I find myself trying to keep up with others, I'll get a faster quad. If you are waiting for people on 400ex's to catch up to you, then they need to find new riding partners.
My whole point is that to argue about who is faster than who when your comparing apples to oranges is school yard stuff.
Posted by: JohnRogers
I don't have much experience with ATV's but I just bought one and while asking around and all, most pointed me in the direction of the Z400. Even the sales guy did. Basically said it was the best bang for your dollar. I paid right at $6000 for mine.
Posted by: TheRaptor700Rider
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Originally posted by: Yoshiequipped
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Originally posted by: Chipper00792
what do u think the top speed of the 2007 400ex would be if it was stock?
the top speed on my 05 400ex was about 73-75 mph. thats layed over the gas tank complaetly wound out, i dont weight but 140 pounds so that gives it a little more speed right there. now with my pipe and fully broke in motor i have been clocked at 80 on my new one and 85 goin down hill on my first 05 which blew flames out both sides about 10 feet long while trail riding. (honda dealership didnt put the oil line on the top of the motor on all the way and it blew it back off and ignited the oil) scariest experience in my life!
Bullsh*t buddy. 450s stock go into the 70's, not a 400ex. I hate people who over hype every damn thing they say. Read a couple magazines buddy. I'd trust them over anything you have to say after that dream you had about going 75 with a 400ex.
Posted by: yz426ex
EX.
Out on the same track the raptors frame kept cracking. The ex frame still looks perfect.
Posted by: miller3103
I agree with everyone on the 400ex. I ride an 03 and the other day we went trail riding and then we hit the asphault highway and raced. The Z400 (05 model), DS650, 400ex w/ 440 big bore, and my 400. everyone of them stock (except the 4--ex with the big bore) this is how we ended up. 1st - DS650,2nd- 440,3rd-Z400, and last by ALOT was me on my ex. The exs are GREAT trail riding quads but you have to spend alot of money to get them to even compete with the other quads. I bought mine just for trailing not for racing so im fine with the way mine performs. The only thing that im doing to mine is putting an HMF Sport Series Slip-On just to give it some sound. Im not too worried about the big power gains. If I was looking to buy on today to race or just for more power I would go with the Z400. It and the Big Bore 440 ran a VERY close race. The DS650 is a very fast quad but just too big for my taste but t rides very comfortable for that big of a quad. As big as it is he could spin it around on the trails just us with ouur 400s. Well I just thought that I would out in my 2cents.
Posted by: deezna
ok, I have a 2005 honda 400 ex and it's pushing 65 top speed and that's on pavement. They wont do 75 stock unless you got a different sprocket and maybe taller rear tires. Also I would take the honda 400 over a suzuki anyday of the week. The Z maybe be overall faster but the Honda seems to have better torque and much better for trails and it's also a much more durable machine.
Posted by: EVMAN
dude are you smoking the 400ex stock top speed is 76mph that is what the manfacture even says it is. And the ds 650 is not better it is a really good dune machine but other then that it takes the rest of that power that it has to pull around its almost 500 pound body. when the 400ex only weighs 378. Also the top speed of the 450er is 83mph out of the box not barely 70mph SRY buddy your wrong.......
Posted by: EVMAN
I do not know where you read that the 400ex barely hits 50mph the honda 250 top speed is beetween 50-55 mph how is a 400ex slower then that even my little cousins 150cc hammerhead go-cart does 42 mph stock and they just put on tones of aftermarket parts it i probally doin close to 50 mph right now and it only has a 3 gear fully auto engine so i think you should do a little more research like i have done and everyone i have talk to even the proffesionals at dealers said that it was around 76mph dont believe me look it up on the internet.
Posted by: EVMAN
dude wut the hell is your problem i bet you have never tried a 400ex in your life yo probally just like spitting out random crap that you dont even nooooooo. I have beaten a 660 raptor in a drag a banshee in a drag, a Z in a drag, and i have beat all of those quads in hill climbing my quad is not stock but even if it was there is no way those quads would out run me the only quad that i have raced with my sis stock 400ex is the Z and he was about 30 pounds lighter then me and i beat him on a drag by about 2 quad lengths. I also went riding with him a weak later and he couldnt make it up lots of the hills i could he ran out of power. So you may be able to talk sh*t but you can definetely not back it up IF you want to watch a Z and a 400ex race go to google and type in 400ex vs ltz400 it is at the very bottom of the page . sry biotch ttyl byybyyy now hahhhhhaahahah.
Posted by: EVMAN
ok well i raced a stock 06 400ex against my friends Z and beat him by about 2 quad leanghts i weigh about 30 more pounds then him and we are pretty much equally mached at riding i have watched several videos of the honda winning almost everytime out of like 12 videos the Z won like 3 time the rest honda just type in 400ex vs ltz400 on google go to the bottom of the page and click where it says honda 400ex vs ltz400 video sand drags and tell me which one wins ok its not that hard alrighty then byyyyyyyy now......
Posted by: EVMAN
Actually ya i beat the 660 raptor several time no problem also i beat the almost stock banshee just had pipes on it banshee a couple of times in a sand drag banshee definetilly not as fast as the 450's which is what i ride with all the time and i dont know what your talking about not enough power stock has 27 rear horsepower alreaty pleanty of power to do pretty much everything MIne has a cdi rev box 5 horspower gain + 1200rpm dmc comp 4 full exhaust,with end cap off 6-7 horspower.Weight Reductions, fmf power up jets ,uni airfilter, K&N extreme power lid, white brother airbox vents 7 horspower so total of 18 horspower give or take a few added on so 27+18= 45 horsepower give or take a few which the 450r honda is 37 rear horspower stock YFZ 36 rear horspower ad LTR 32 horsepower Banshee stock 37 horspower Stock 660 raptor 35.5 rear horspower. Stock 700 raptor 42 rear horsepower. Even go look them up by yourself if ya dont believe me. SO why dont you go think of some more crap about honda write me back and we will do this all over again. I also see you are brand loyal to yamaha. And that you think honda sucks well why dont ya go look at some videos of the yfz 450 and the honda 450 and tell me the last time yamaha has won against honda in proffesional racing. Never mind ill tell you they have not won any major event since 2004. Hondatook everything until 2006 when ltr came out then that started winning alot of races as well Honda also won baja 1000 i dont think yamaha took 1 race. And the basnshee is a dinasaur has been around to long used to be the best but now 4-strokes have taken over. 450's are the fastest and best race bikes now thats why they dont race the banshee any more ohwel sry ok ttyl byyyyyyyyyy now!
Posted by: EVMAN
straight line speed i do not care about the top speed of my ATV i do not care what it is as long as i can keep up with everyone else which i do not have a problem with, me and my cousin ride almost every day he has the ltr 450 and his quad has never made it up any hill that mine has not. I have made it up hills my first try that took him twice 3 times which says i have pleanty of power. ME and him are always saying whoes the best why is mine good and why his is good. I never said mine was the fastest either i know mine definetily is not the fastest we raced several times i got close a couple of times but his is just to fast. But all i can tell you is when me and him and alot of other people on a variety of quads are riding we are always having to stop and wait for them and most of them have 700 raptors and 450's And dont tell me about I have made it up hils that raptors cannot get up my friend went up it and couldnt get up it so i dont know wut your talking about the raptor is the best impossible to beat. i am simply telling you wut i have beet and what i havent beat. And with the horspower . instead of talking crap why dont you just go look it up it is not hard those facts i put are all acurate you can find them all if you look 5 minutes on the internet if ya just took the time. SO why dont you all go do some reaserch on the 06 400ex look up all the parts and read about them learn about that exact quad and then come back and talk to me when you know what you are talking about
Posted by: EVMAN
i thought about getting the 450 but i realy liked the reverse and a couple of my friends had the 400 and it is easily campariable when you put mods on it and i wanted a quad that would last forever withought having any problems that was the only reason i did not get a bigger bike so i can put mods on this bike and dont have to worry about it breaking.
Posted by: EVMAN
ok well either i am an extremely good rider to beat all of these people or i have a good bike or both and yes me and my cousin dust all of these people when we go on trips i think that it is both skill and the bike but i think it is 50/50 all i know is what do you have to compare it to if i can go up every hill i attempt or am just riding with everyone else and i always get ahead i dont like being in the middle i have to be in the very back or front. if i get in front i forget theres people behind me and we are soon split up because i go to fast. Even on fast rides i always stay in the back so that i let everyone else on the 450 banshee and raptors go ahead and then i can catch up fast .so if those quads havent made it up hills that i have when me and my friends ride all time and i have beat them in races before and then you say it is imposible that is not true you need to learn a little more About the new 400ex or if ya live in california come and ride with us and i will show ya what i mean .Anyways i am done talkin about this subject its getting pretty old and boring so lets find somthing else to talk about.Hey do you know if there is a way to put pictures on this i ave some cool PICS. to show of me doin some cool hills that i climb all the time?
Posted by: EVMAN
A raptor with a r1 engine dood that would be horrible at the climb of hill climbing that i do it would just spin back tires and grab and flip it and roll down the hill
Posted by: EVMAN
HEY RAPTOR 13 , 10 to 13 wow you are probely an immiture 40 year old virgin who smokes in his room all day. Why dont you learn what you are TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU TYPE IN ALL OF THIS SHI* IN ALRIGHT SEE LATER BITC*
Posted by: colbyland91
i have a 400ex and my brother has a raptor and when we ride on trails the raptor wants yo shut down it hates going slow but the ex will just go tough them no problem. well whatever you get i hope ur happy with it. Peace
Posted by: squirterboy
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Originally posted by: duneracer500
Thats nothing guys. Listen to this funny load of bull.
In that ATV Source Forum, I had a guy tell me his KFX 700 could run 85 stock. Then, he told me his buddy had a banshee that would do over 100. I was wanting to talk to guys knowledgeable of atv's, that right there made me change my forum. Even though, after I corrected the little weasel everyone went killer on me and they all ganged up on me telling me I didn't know what I was talking about.
Thankfully, I found this forum where people who know their abc's to atv forums.
my uncle gets around 106 mph on his banshee so it dusnt surprise me
Posted by: mako30515
ok i have a 2005 trx400ex in yellow and i put that atv into alot of thing and roll down a 20ft hill and it still run like it was new....am not a big fan with yahama ya they go fast but they are not well mad .. i have a friend that has a 700 yahama 06 and it not workin well when he frist got it and mine still run like its new so if i was u i would get a honda am about to get a 450r honda soon a 400 is good but i need seed....
Posted by: Whip
i have done nothing to the gearing on my 400 and it has been clocked doing 80 MPH.
Posted by: Whip
my 400 has been clocked doing 80 so maybe your mods werent so respectable.
Posted by: Mr. Exceptional
get the ex
Posted by: honda400_06
man look i got a stock 06 400 and i have had mine at 74 and it wasn't maxing out but the 400 is the best sounds better and looks better the 660 is faster but not as good as the 400 and the 400 rides better
