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Posted by: TractorPacker
I don't think the 06 will be much different it the engine department. The added a 1.4mm to the stroke but reduced compression. I see those 2 things as self cancelling as far a change. It will rev a little slower, but that will make it seem slower. That will make it a better trail quad.
THe seat hieght is up .4 inch, and it appears all stats are the same. That means more seat cushion.
Posted by: reconranger
One review said they are attempting to make it more trail friendly. That was one of my big criticisms of this machine. I trail rode my buddies on some nasty tight single track, and I was actually glad to get off that thing and back on my Z400! If you think about it, 99% of these machines will never see a track. Sure, MX machines get all the glory, but when you get them out on the trail that track setup does you more harm than good. They also said there may be a "WR" version in the works. The all new Raptor looks very interesting as well.
But, I still however can't figure out why Yamaha makes its bikes so narrow??? An MX bike should be 50" wide, right out of the box!
Posted by: reconranger
Yamaha markets the YFZ as an "out of the box" MX machine, so they need to make that version is 50" wide. Then they need a seperate WR version, for trails. That's what I am trying to say, in a roundabout way. If they want to try and make a bike to do both, that's fine with me too. I'm not in the market for one anyway.
Just a note, my buddies is now MXing his YFZ, and basically after one season the bike is completely trashed! (He's a pretty good rider, with no major crashes.) Next season he is switching to dirt bikes, because he can't afford an new quad every year.
Posted by: reconranger
Dirt bikes more expensive??? He figures he can ride a CRF450 right out of the box, and the CRF has about the same MSRP as the YFZ.
With the quad, you are going to have to buy: a-arms, shocks, wider axle, rims, tires, etc. All that aftermarket stuff is going to be thousands of $$$$$ extra, just to get started.
I have to say that his motor is still going strong. It is his frame and swingarm that are trashed. The swingarm has a huge X-shaped crack right down the middle. A foot peg broke off. The bike is unrideable. But, for the recreational rider, the bike should hold up alright.
Posted by: ridinsmooth
yeah i going with yfz660r i want to see the bombardier or the suzuki not the yfz i so sick about hearing about the yfz450 is the best i am hoping that suzuki smoke the yfz. sorry dont take offensive.
Posted by: PhatDave
sweet deal
Posted by: motox26
I was going to say, thumper dirtbikes are expensive. That is one of the big reasons why I race a 2-stroke, a LOT cheaper. But if you add in aftermarket parts I could see a dirtbike being cheaper.
Posted by: YFZ660R
I don't think the difference will be much as TractorPacker said, what I find more exciting is suzuki and maybe bombardier getting in the 450 battle!
Posted by: buck183
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Originally posted by: reconranger
One review said they are attempting to make it more trail friendly. That was one of my big criticisms of this machine. I trail rode my buddies on some nasty tight single track, and I was actually glad to get off that thing and back on my Z400! If you think about it, 99% of these machines will never see a track. Sure, MX machines get all the glory, but when you get them out on the trail that track setup does you more harm than good. They also said there may be a "WR" version in the works. The all new Raptor looks very interesting as well.
But, I still however can't figure out why Yamaha makes its bikes so narrow??? An MX bike should be 50" wide, right out of the box!
Kind of an odd reply if you think about it. First of all you complain about how difficult they are to ride on the trail. Then you say they are not wide enough. We all know that wider quads are less trail friendly when trying to fit between tight trees. Not to mention the YFZ is also the widest MX quad coming off the assembly line as we speak....yet Yamaha, and only Yamaha, is guilty of making their quads too narrow.
WTF?????? If you don't like the bike just say it. Don't pick it apart just because it doesn't fit your tame riding style.
Buck
Posted by: buck183
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Originally posted by: ridinsmooth
yeah i going with yfz660r i want to see the bombardier or the suzuki not the yfz i so sick about hearing about the yfz450 is the best i am hoping that suzuki smoke the yfz. sorry dont take offensive.
The YFZ is the best!. Get on one or get behind one.
BR>
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Buck
Posted by: blastersrgay
o my god! i cant freakin wait until i get one!!! does anyone else agree this may be the best quad ever made?
Posted by: blastersrgay
it will rev slower? o and they kept the same compression ratio
Posted by: blastersrgay
wat are you talking about? dirt bkes are more expensive.
Posted by: strongtyerYFZ
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Originally posted by: reconranger
But, I still however can't figure out why Yamaha makes its bikes so narrow??? An MX bike should be 50" wide, right out of the box!
i hope you mean MX quad... cuz if you cant figure out why their dirt"bikes" are so narrow then..... lol j/k
the yfz has a real wide stance to start out with, it has a really low center of gravity, and its not tippy. if your going to race mx then you are probably going to buy newer, stronger, wider, a arms anyways. i dont think yamaha would want to make that standard and drive up the MSRP. who knows tho. its wide enough for me stock tho.
