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Posted by: 2FAST4U69
Just from personal experiences, I have beat both 450's when stock, then after mods. They have also beat me... well except for the yfz, but I still havent met a person who can ride one well. I have raced the TLD pred when I was stock and had no trouble pulling him down the strip. Everytime I have seen the pred in a drag race it has always been in the back of the pack. Now don't get me wrong I think the polaris is a well rounded bike, in fact I almost bought one before I got the raptor. But IMO the pred needs to shave some weight then I think it would be pretty damn good down the strip. And 1bad450r is right about nobody having them around this area, and that IMO speaks volumes by itself...
Posted by: maddog56
Depends on the race, rider, terrain, proper jetting, etc.
But the yfz has more hp and a better power to weight ratio if that's what you are asking. Search.
Posted by: maddog56
Nevermind, this has turned into a Polaris discussion thread and I'm late to the party. Sorry guys.img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
Posted by: ridinsmooth
the yfz
Posted by: thebigshow
i seen a the new preditor hand it too a yfz and the 450R two weekends ago..i was shocked how much faster the new preds are versus the older ones.but as much as i hate to say this , the raptor 700 beat all three of them pretty dam consitantly...not by much , but almost every time...thats about as unbiased as it gets...this was in the 100yd drags, i havent seen any of them race on any thing longer than that...
Posted by: thebigshow
dont feel bad if you own a yfz.... next year they will come out with something that will spank the raptor and the predator...its a never ending cycle
Posted by: thebigshow
i agree 100% about that the 3/4 throttle thing..they were all very close...i was just impressed on how much faster the new preds were..
Posted by: thebigshow
i really cant believe this thread is still going....kills me...i hear alot of talk about the yzf would win or the pred wold win but have any of u went to a drag strip and actually watched them? there is no debate left, the NEW predators consistently beat the yfz in the 100 yd drag that i saw.. but they were VERY close...close enough to were weight and riding skill can play a factor....but NEITHER of them are just toally dominate at the strip over the other...now the new 700, thats a whole new can of worms in its self...it consistantly SPANKED ALL THREE BIKES...(yfz,450R, pred) it is way quicker, fastest stock 4-stroke quad i have ever seen....and im not a raptor fan..but the truth hurts sometimes...ill have to deal with it..lol...props go out to the polaris and yamaha, they really stepped up this year...
Posted by: thebigshow
LOL, 100 yds = 300ft .....u know it might come down to traction, where they were racing the sand was real loose, maybe in a tighter envirement the yfz does better,dunno
Posted by: thebigshow
great post!!!!!!!!!!!! and how old are u???? if idiots were airplaines..............this place would be a fu#king airport...lol..
Posted by: Bradracer18
In my opinion........the yfz is by far the quickest stock bike. I think the 450r and the pred are really close stock. With every mod, the pred will come closer to beating the yfz.......and eventually it will beat the yfz's when it comes to totally modded out bikes. The yfz is a pretty quick machine, no doubt, but for the real racers.......the pred would be a better bet. However, as of right now....I think the rappy might still have the pred by a little bit.......but not for much longer(maybe a year or two)........the pred is really comming along, on preformance parts.......
I have seen a really quick yfz though.........but its only advantage was being pretty built, and light weight riders.........and reving it up and dropping the clutch like I've never seen.......I'll admit, they must have pretty good clutches.......my pred wouldn't have liked that very much.........
Anyways........I'd conclude.........yfz over pred stock to mid lvl builds............and then pred over yfz in supreme builds...... and I don't really think the 450r is worth comparing to........haven't seen a whole lot of fast r's.........
Posted by: Bradracer18
In reverse?? lol........bout the only way......modded though the pred will win..........
Posted by: Bradracer18
lol.......dune........
I'll race ya........
Posted by: Bradracer18
The yfz is very fast accelerating........the pred is faster on the top end by about 2-3mph. Stock for stock(unless it is an 03 like mine which were faster for some reason).....the yfz will win a 300' drag. Get to modding them.......and the pred is going to start to win out
Mdaddy........I'd be glad to take your offer.......I'll race your warrior, or your "friends" yfz.........doesn't matter, I'll still win. I've got mine dialed in almost perfect for the mods......and it runs darn good. I like to race for big money, or slips though, so keep that in mind........
You guys who think preds aren't fast, need to come to SW Iowa........we'll show ya fast preds, wether we loose or win, they are still pretty fast. I think we're getting them down into the 4.4 in 300' range.......which is fairly respectable for a 4 stroke.
Posted by: Bradracer18
well to tell you the truth......I'm not sure that its a 250r......I think it might be a lt250.....or a lt500 frame.......but either way....it does fly......but we sold it a while back.
Superman.......uhhh.......I'm pretty sure that I'm right. This pred is running in the range of 4.5-4.3sec in the 300'.......this is still with shocks, and on race gas only.......He's got one with no suspension(I think).....but don't think they have ran it yet......
The motor is worked on both of these......big bored.
Posted by: Bradracer18
I don't know the mph's.......off hand. I'm not just throwing these numbers out either......they are factual.....that is.....the 4.5 and 4.4sec.........
It doesn't suprise me the yfz didn't have those good times, nor the z.........the pred is faster, when modded, like I've been saying........especially faster than a z........
You have seen rappy and bomb times that fast right???
Posted by: Bradracer18
No videos.....no one believes them anyways.....everyone always says the comparison quad must be real slow or something......but no videos of it even running down the strip alone....that i have anyway.
I know the 450's are fast......but the pred will run those times too.......
Check out his newest pred......it is a 574cc trick motor....in a pure drag frame......its pretty cool......not sure if it has been ran yet(for times).....
go to......Nicholas cycle
Click on gallery......and go to the bottom to see it........
Posted by: Bradracer18
this guy is a joke......talking to me??? i have been here a while bud......no joke here.......come up to SW Iowa....with your yfz, and z......see who wins........we'll race for more than your cheap talk too!!!!
Talk to the bomb guys......they'll admit the pred is quick.......
Posted by: Bradracer18
yeah....no times.......I don't think Doug is very website making inclinded(as expected)......so he doesn't put more on there, than needed by his customers I guess. He updates it every 2-4 months....I think his son does most of it.
I know he was on this site, a while back saying he ran a 4.5........you could look it up in the search category.....he doesn't post that often.......name is jammer42........
I think the pred will eventually catch up in the world, but we are just a few yrs behind everyone else(raptors and ds's)......we might not ever be faster.....who knows.....
I personally perfer xc racing.....
Posted by: Bradracer18
lol......"getting up off the floor now".......thanks spyder......
Posted by: Bradracer18
mdaddy......I'm not disagreeing with you there.......pipe for pipe......the yfz is still faster......I admitted that already. But......what I am saying is that the further into the mods you get, the pred will eventually catch up to the yfz and then eventually beat them......trust me.......I've seen it first hand.....mine will beat some mildly modded yfz's
Posted by: Bradracer18
I am actually 12.5:1......but yeah I have to run a mixed ratio.....of probably no less than 110 race gas mixed with 92/93 premium.......50/50......I was just running strait 110 race gas.....but won't be doing that for long........
You can get lower compressions to allow you to just run premium......and you'll be able to get the new piston, and get that junk stocker out of there!!!!!
Posted by: Bradracer18
yeah........you'd be fine with that.....and premium......and you'd still get the aftermarket piston, which is much more reliable
Posted by: Bradracer18
spyder.........and you were wondering what my intake/carb setup looks like.......for now......look at the pic 5th down........
here
Posted by: Bradracer18
Yeah......depends on how much water you go though.......your stock air box isn't that water proof either.........but the filter is a long ways up there......and an outerware will protect some water......remember, the twin air filter is covered in oil......so it won't suck in too much water.....
As for the bb kit.........I would just get the basic mods for now.......and see if you still need more power........I'd get a good exhaust system(either doug's pipe, or and hmf......both with a rath headpipe)........I'd go with the twin air clamp on......and carb mods.......and then possibly a high comp piston......and port and flow job.......which is what I've got.........that is putting you about 12hp above stock........
Any major engine work I was going to do........I'd let Doug do........less problems that way.......or make sure you have a manual, a buddy.......and lots of time. Ask lots of questions if a problem arises.....and don't start it unless you know its right........
yeah.......I think that might be tyler drakes quad(he's on predowners)
Posted by: Bradracer18
this thread is old......and pointless........so who cares, ask away......
As for the rims, I assume you are talking about mine?? They are the lightest ones Douglas makes(not sure what color of label, maybe black).........I just use them in the sand......when I get in the dirt.....I put the stock, more heavy duty ones on.......
well.....$400......can do a few things with it.......my list would be this........
1.....rath racing headpipe.....regardless of your pipe, other than stock, this will end up being your headpipe, it is the best on the market, can go wrong with it.
2.....Nicholas Cycle carb mods......they are worth it!!!
3.......Some type of air filter mods......even if you have to just open the lid up.......and go with a clamp on tube, with a filter an the end(which would be placed in the airbox with no lid).....some guys are running this type of setup......and I've heard it performs pretty good......but not as good as the twin air.......
4.......I'd get a new exhaust here......this is where a great exhaust is going to acutally be seen over a good exhaust.......I'd choose between Doug's drag pipe, and the HMF pipe.......wouldn't consider any others.......
5......some type of aftermarket piston.......not a big deal, but will help you out on reliability........
Then......I'd go with suspension and body upgrades......
I know this is more than 400 bucks.......but just listed how I'd plan stuff out
Posted by: Bradracer18
As for the plastic......they will just break again.......mine are both broke, not a big deal.....just makes it easier to take them off.......
The wheels are hyper wheels......they are very expensive......for racing only.......look them up for prices.......you'll soon find your douglas are good enough......
Elkas......are much better than the fox's........but also the one's i'm talking are very expensive.........notice I don't have them......so......yeah.......
As for the scoops.......yeah I like raths too.......but I also like Doug's..........hard decision......
Other than that.......I like your list........exactly what I'd do.........then I'd possibly go into some handlebars......and antivibe stem(these are my next mods).......
Posted by: Bradracer18
yep.......kinda what I was thinking......lot of money with the flexx system though......don't know if I can do it or not!!! I can't decide between hpd's and rath's stem......but think I'l end up going with rath, due to service......
Posted by: Bradracer18
yeah......the pred is more powerful than your scrammy(torque).......and it will jump way better too.......it probably jumps better than the rappy too......due to better shocks, and a wider stance.
I suggest one like spyders.....however they are all nice!!!
Posted by: Bradracer18
yes his is.......look at his sig.......he has pics of it too......
Posted by: Bradracer18
he said the ex would win in the trails........but in the drags....it would be even......and I agree........when modded though the polaris will win.....in drags
Posted by: motox26
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Originally posted by: spyder6
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Originally posted by: Billiam11
are u kiddin me in the trails!?!?! polaris's make the HEAVIEST BIKES AROUND
ur kiddin grright
just cuz their heavy dosnt make them slow :/ the sportsman 800 its 160 pounds heavier and only has 10cc's on the Brute Force, yet still manages to beat it 5 times out of 10
Throw in some turns or obstacles and then weight makes a difference.
Posted by: 2mnyToyz
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Originally posted by: 1bad450r
The predator wouldn't stand an ice cubes chance in hell racing either one of the 450's. Especially the YFZ.
wow... really?
Posted by: 2mnyToyz
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Originally posted by: SVTPETE
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Originally posted by: 1bad450r
The predator wouldn't stand an ice cubes chance in hell racing either one of the 450's. Especially the YFZ.
wow this guy is on crack! I only went to the dunes once when my preddy was stock. I did not have any yfz's wax me. I lost consistantly to modded 450's honda and yamaha by a quad length on comp hill. I never got to race a stocker but stock for stock or mod for mod it will come down to rider. This is my only experiance and i am being as honest as possible. I own and race yamaha jet skii's and have a yamaha quad so I am not biased. One place I do agree with bad 450 is on an mx track. I think the 450's are lighter and jump better. In a straight line drag it will be close.
That's been my experience too. I have an 03 and 05 preddy, I occasionally lose a few sand drags to yfz's, not a 450R yet and have consistenlty beat 660R's and recently tied with the new yamaha 700. I say tie because it really depended on who could keep thier front end down, but at the top end, the preddy did start walking away from the 700. If he changed his gear ratio, the 700 would be equal. I'd say that says a lot for the predator. Not one of these races have been very far appart on the winner, except for the 660R's, they're by 3 to 4 bike lengths. It does "wax" the z400 and z400 with the 450 kit in a straight line. It's all rider ability after the first corner...
I just started playing around with my buddies on the short TT track and have been on a high-speed flat track (once). The preddy has the nads to keep up and win, it's rider ability that will win these kinds of races.
My bikes have clamp-on K&N filters, high rev CDI and LTE pipes. Currently talking with Nicholas Cycle on a few other goodies...
Posted by: DrDune
If the wind is blowing from east to west with a barometric pressure setting @ 30.05 them the YFZ would win. If the wind is blowing from north to south with a 35% chance of rain then the predator would win. If the wind is calm and the predator is running stock then the YFZ kicks ass. If the above is reversed with a humidity setting of 62% then the predator would win. Unless the wind is blowing north by north east with a west by south west trajectory then the YFZ would win, but only by one bike length. Got It!!
Posted by: heatseeker8
post it in the Yamaha AND in the Polaris forum.that will tell you which
Posted by: heatseeker8
Did you get some sort of transmission kit from Yamaha or sumethin?
How in the world do you have a lowered gear transmission and have higher top end..I smell B.S.
Posted by: 4wheelerfred
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Originally posted by: Webopper
Nothing like diggin up a thread that was crap 6 months ago and is still crap today...
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: tblazer
Anybody want to drag my 78' TransAm.
Posted by: spyder6
in a drag, id have to say its close
in the trails the predetor
MXing, the YFZ
theres so many veriables also
Posted by: spyder6
they really shouldent loose to a raptor 660, a Predetor TLD can beat it in a drag i can see it getting whipped by a YFZ, i mean, nothing can really touch a YFZ, cept for maybe this supposed new suzuki coming out. but after all, Matt Smiley did finish second in this years GNCC on his Factory Predator (bill balance got 1st on a YFZ for those who dont know)
Posted by: spyder6
i mean, if i were to pull a lie, i wouldent even call an EFI'd quad jetted i mean, i might screw up and say it was Power Commanderd, but those arnt even out yet, lol
i putted around a bit on a YFZ yesterday at my friends house who just got one, very nice and well put together machine, it does, like everyone says have a power band resembleing more to a 2stroke, but i liked the feel of the drive train and the mid-range power band to the motor. my only fault with the YFZ was the suspention was fairly harsh (atleast for my tastes) and seemed a little too small for a almost full grown person i wouldent doubt a YFZ takeing a Predetor, but there 2 very different styles of machines, and in the place were the Predetor dominates, a YFZ couldent keep up, and vice versa. i have yet to see a 700R zooming around, but i cant wait to see it
Posted by: spyder6
nice try
Posted by: spyder6
and the start off, a good start is key
Posted by: spyder6
no sh!t sherlock a piped and jetted quad would smoke a stock. put stock against stock and it would be a different story. a TLD pred will beat the 660 5 times out of 10, and hte 660 will beat a pred 5 times out of 10
Posted by: spyder6
its true though, the pred has the fastest reverse gear
Posted by: spyder6
wet weight the pred weighs a few pounds less than a Raptor. and your right about dumping alot of money in and seeing not alot of changes, but a pred with all the mods against all the others with all the mods its the fastest, problem is, you need all the mods, AND no one has that much money,
Posted by: spyder6
stop posting in this frigging thread!
Posted by: spyder6
oh shut up you dumb bastid, you dont even own a z400, go back to playing with your rusty warrior.
Posted by: spyder6
brad, running the 12.1 compression is Premium pump gas right? or do you mix race gas?
Posted by: spyder6
like an 11:1?
Posted by: spyder6
seems like id get alot of water on it, were it is... remember, i go through water a good deal. by the way, i was looking at nicks 558 bore kit, with the sleaves and everything. how hard is it to nock the current piston sleeve out and stick the new one in? should i let my dealer do it if i got it?
EDIT:
i was going through nicks photos, and i saw this http://images.50below.com/facility/nicholascycle.com/drake%202.JPG and holy crap thats hot. i made up my mind that im going to keep my cracked black plastics, and buy blue ones when i get the chance and have my lights window tinted so there black.... whoaaa
Posted by: spyder6
what kind of rims are those... like manufacturer? hmmm
i'll look further into this twin air see if i can find anyone else that has it and ask them for a more open opinion on it. then i'll go from there. i have about 400 bucks to spend at the moment on my preddy and im trying to think up the best ways to spend it. if i get a new muffler i figure i could sell my current PP on ebay for like $180 or so and make some money back.
sorry for hijacking the thread, just seemed like the right place to ask a few questions
Posted by: spyder6
well, i figure i'll tackle the best and more expensive first.
and i was talking about the blue preds wheels, i have douglases too.
as far as my list:
HMF Black chrome slip on
Carb mods
some sort of air filter
Rath header
Rath scoops
thats all the stuff that id like to have with my 400 bucks. yeah i know, already over my limit. i figure i can sell my PP exhuast for about 200 though, so theres the header right there.
as far as suspention, i was thinking about keeping my Fox's. im not entirely sure if theres anything better than Elka's and i know the Fox's are elka's main competition, so why drop more money on only a very small difference.
as far as my plastics, my front right clip for my fender on the fuel tank snapped at the plastics. i donno if i did it or if it came from the factory like that and i never noticed untill now. ive never flipped it or had it land on the front fenders. but do you think i should stick with them? the extra vibration from the plastics is minimal, or do you think i should try and get my dealer to cover it under warrenty?
thanks
Posted by: spyder6
yeah, as far as the handle bars i was looking at the Fasst Flex bar, i know alot of GNCC racers use it, or drop some more money and go with a Renthal fatty bar (1 1/8th i belive) with a rath anti vibe stem and his gauge cluster
Posted by: spyder6
nooo dont get rid of your 400! just save up some money and get an LE pred
Posted by: spyder6
well, tonight was my first night of withdrawls. im starting to really miss my 800... i shouldent though as we have a 2000 Sportsman 500 H.O. thats perfectly fine and is great. oh well, maybe an exhaust and stuff
Posted by: spyder6
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Originally posted by: Billiam11
are u kiddin me in the trails!?!?! polaris's make the HEAVIEST BIKES AROUND
ur kiddin grright
just cuz their heavy dosnt make them slow :/ the sportsman 800 its 160 pounds heavier and only has 10cc's on the Brute Force, yet still manages to beat it 5 times out of 10
Posted by: spyder6
so does the suspention set up, the sportsmans have a very very wide stance and a smooth suspention, wereas the stock brute force suspention has been commented on countless times to be very tipsy and overly firm
im not trying to take builders sides here or anything, just to prove a point, and i know were your comingfrom, and i agree that a 400ex would take a scrambler 400 in the trails.
Posted by: spyder6
other than cosmetics
Close Ratio transmition
Fox Podium X shocks with resivoirs
Maxxis Razr 2 tires
Pure Polaris (White Bros.) E-Series pipe
GNCC bumper
Posted by: spyder6
well so far there has been 2 different LE's
the 05 LE which is white and has the standard gear box, and the 06 LE that i have which is black and has the close ratio gearbox.
depending on were you buy it, on average its about $400 more, but the stuff you get with it thats different from the Troy Lee (Maxxis Razr2's and E-series pipe) are about $600 if you were to buy it seperately from the quad
Posted by: spyder6
you blow men so get the frick out of here
Posted by: spyder6
i saw a Raptor 700R today and that thing was BAAAAD thats going on my list of things to buy if i had a million dollars. that is going to be one hard quad to beat, yamaha really got it right this time
Posted by: spyder6
i think in a drag it does
Posted by: spyder6
were talking about 700r's numbnuts, read the posts
Posted by: spyder6
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Originally posted by: spyder6
i think in a drag it does hr>
How long of a drag?....
id say 300ft because a short drag, the YFZ is light and fast enough to get away before the raptor starts pulling back
Posted by: spyder6
a rappy 700?
Posted by: spyder6
well i know for fact that the Preddy TLD's are AS FAST as raptor 660's stock for stock (atleast from my experience) and i dont doubt that the 700r could kick the chit out any of the quads out
Posted by: spyder6
i really, honestly, with full emotion, hate idiots, and this board is full of them.
Posted by: cr125predator
Spyder- couldnt have said it better. Just dont ask in the yamaha or polaris forums, you'll get very bias results. Ask in a honda or bombardier forum
Posted by: cr125predator
yea but those are only based on opinions. it is very biased also.
Posted by: cr125predator
One thing nobody ever seems to accept is that maybe the rider sucks. I know everybody knows that affects it but nobody ever adds that in. Its the same if you put ricky carmicheal on a 85cc bike and put any joe schmo on his factory dirtbike, he will still whip them. So just because your bike might be good, it doesnt mean the guy on it is, so he will lose. If you have a good rider on a good bike then of course he will win.
Posted by: raptor6
My piped and jetted 660 smokes stock preds and stock 450s all day,when it come to a piped nad jetted 450 i cant take him but not smoke him,a YFZ450 will SMOKE a pred all day long.
Posted by: NebraskaPower
I have had quite a bit of experience in the last year with several different makes and models of bikes. I feel the rider is 75% of the reason someone wins or looses, even in a drag race. My bike has light modifications and I have raced several different bikes on the track and in drags and I have been beat by a simple late shift mistake, let it hit rev limiter one gear and it costs you lots of time. The only bike that has been able to consistently beat mine, was a lightly modified YFZ 450 and he is normally behind until 4th gear and then pulls quite a bit harder than my predator in the top two gears. Don't know why, but it did. I did weigh about 60 lbs more than that kid though. He couldn't have been more than 140lbs soaking wet. Most of the bikes that beat me in the mx this year were YFZ 450's. Nice track bike. Overall I wouldn't buy a different bike, I really like the feel of the predator. Seemed way more stable than the other two. Just seemed to fit me better!!!
Posted by: YFZRyderMace
Hey everyone. I was wonder who would win in a race between the YFZ450 and the Predator500..
Posted by: Hoopie
can the moderator delete this thread!
Posted by: SVTPETE
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Originally posted by: 1bad450r
The predator wouldn't stand an ice cubes chance in hell racing either one of the 450's. Especially the YFZ.
wow this guy is on crack! I only went to the dunes once when my preddy was stock. I did not have any yfz's wax me. I lost consistantly to modded 450's honda and yamaha by a quad length on comp hill. I never got to race a stocker but stock for stock or mod for mod it will come down to rider. This is my only experiance and i am being as honest as possible. I own and race yamaha jet skii's and have a yamaha quad so I am not biased. One place I do agree with bad 450 is on an mx track. I think the 450's are lighter and jump better. In a straight line drag it will be close.
Posted by: SVTPETE
wow you raced a jetted 700r. I have never heard of one of those. By the way did you ask the guy how he jetted it. I am curious
Posted by: SVTPETE
I got the whole shot on two YFZ's last weekend at my first race. One did get out just ahead of me but I beat the other two by a quad length. I was the most inexperianced rider there and the only one to be mx ing for the first time. The other 2 yfz's eventually passed me in a rythym section on the second lap.
Posted by: Streko
A Predator Would Win
05 Pred (Mine)
05 YfZ (Bros)
04 450r (Dads)
Posted by: Streko
yfzs are so over rated any way so definetly a predator would win
Posted by: Streko
yea ok im over rated..... get off the crack moron face it a predator would win
Posted by: Streko
yea seriously ................. you are acting like a moron ........... so calm down and just say good things and not stupid/bad things
Posted by: Streko
yo bro that video might prove the yfz won ........... but it will not win in a straight drag race if you have the same expierenced drivers driving them............ the guy on the predator in the vidoe was probally not as good as the guy on the yfz .............. so a predator is faster by a few quad lenths
Posted by: QaudMan
It depends more on how skilled the rider is sure it isnt rocket science to drag but u still have to time your shifts correctly keep it strait, and keep the front end down. If the riders where the exact same skill level the YFZ would blow the Predator out of the water stock or otherwise.
04,Blue YFZ-450 FMF Factory 4 full sytem,KaN air filter
AC nerfs with heel gaurds.
Posted by: CaptainToyota
I attend a lot of ATV races and more often than not the Predators end up with the short end of the stick. They are a great trail quad, but when it comes to racing the weight really hurts them.
Just look at the weight: YFZ 350 pounds, TRX450R 376 pounds, Predator 410 pounds.
The Predator just doesnt have the power to make up for the additional 60 pounds.
One things for sure, the Predator is a HUGE step up from the Scrambler.
Cap'n
Posted by: CaptainToyota
In the ATV drag races Ive been to the 450 consistently beat the Predators by at least 3 quad lengths in the stock 400cc-500cc class. At the ones I go to they race 300 feet though.
Cap'n
Posted by: superman2880
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Originally posted by: Boooost
Just to let you guys know my friend has a YFZ-450 and my brother has a Pred 500. I took the Pred and raced from a dig pulled on the Yfz very easily only at 3/4 or less throttle. Then we did it 4 more times after that one being from a roll on and still was consistant. Now He is a pretty good rider with me beind fair and not laying into it all the way becaue of the short streach that we ran on. I am not biased because I do not own one so I have reason to pick sides of the two, plus the YFZ is a little hesitent from a start?????
Crazy kids
Posted by: superman2880
why would i feel bad that i own a yfz...i love it. I just thought it was funny for some kid to say that a predator will walk on a 450 at 3/4 throttle...highly unlikely
Posted by: superman2880
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Originally posted by: keelam
I raced against a piped, and jetted 700r and smoked it with my quad. mine accelerated faster and i topped out higher than him too because of my low gearing transmission. If i could take a piped 700r, i think i can take a predator with ease.
Haha, jetted....silly kids
Posted by: superman2880
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Originally posted by: Bradracer18
The yfz is very fast accelerating........the pred is faster on the top end by about 2-3mph. Stock for stock(unless it is an 03 like mine which were faster for some reason).....the yfz will win a 300' drag. Get to modding them.......and the pred is going to start to win out
Mdaddy........I'd be glad to take your offer.......I'll race your warrior, or your "friends" yfz.........doesn't matter, I'll still win. I've got mine dialed in almost perfect for the mods......and it runs darn good. I like to race for big money, or slips though, so keep that in mind........
You guys who think preds aren't fast, need to come to SW Iowa........we'll show ya fast preds, wether we loose or win, they are still pretty fast. I think we're getting them down into the 4.4 in 300' range.......which is fairly respectable for a 4 stroke.
wow 4.4...i would like to see one of these preds and know the mods. I'm calling b.s.
Posted by: superman2880
bradracer..i'm not saying it couldn't happen but i know of a well built yfz 60+ horse that doesn't run those kind of times...also of a well built z 50+ horse thats not running those kind of times.
Why don't you try and get some timeslips before throwing out those kind of numbers...btw...what kind of mph were those times
Posted by: dreamMACHINE
short drag-100 yds its guna b the yfz, but if its long enogh for both quads to max out then the predator.
Posted by: BloodyRomance
well this one time at band camp....my honda odyssey beat my friends VW bug. but once he put dual exhaust and jetted the hell out of it....that bug couldn't keep rubber on the rims long enough for us to race! but stock for stock i totally whipped his butt. enough already! this whole thread is full of the smell of BS and buttsweat.
Posted by: BloodyRomance
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Originally posted by: Streko
yo bro that video might prove the yfz won ........... but it will not win in a straight drag race if you have the same expierenced drivers driving them............ the guy on the predator in the vidoe was probally not as good as the guy on the yfz .............. so a predator is faster by a few quad lenths
thats one hell of a conclusion you bring up!
Posted by: QuIcKrIdEr
did yu guys not see the test shootout between the yfz, predator and the Z440, the YFZ kicked the pants off both the other bikes!!
Posted by: paintballbanshee
I hate to say it but i would have to say i think predators are over rated when it comes to speed, i raced a 2005 tld with a white bros exhaust, jetted with a filter and i waxed that guy, if the preddy was stock and the yfz was stock the yfz would own it on any terrain. modding them out, yfz still owns it. Predator weighs like 60 pounds more, only 50 more cc's and yea it has a strong motor but it aint no rocketship
Posted by: keelam
YFZ 450 yall must dont noe jack
Posted by: keelam
exactly
Posted by: keelam
I raced against a piped, and jetted 700r and smoked it with my quad. mine accelerated faster and i topped out higher than him too because of my low gearing transmission. If i could take a piped 700r, i think i can take a predator with ease.
Posted by: keelam
ahahahahhahah.......you guys definetly got me there. Jetted 700r, ahahahhahahahaha....
Posted by: keelam
I raced against a piped 700r and I killed it with my stock yfz450 when i first got it. I won by like 3 quad lengths. I think it was just my skills.
Posted by: keelam
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Originally posted by: Webopper
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Originally posted by: keelam
I raced against a piped 700r and I killed it with my stock yfz450 when i first got it. I won by like 3 quad lengths. I think it was just my skills.hr>
I thought I told you to take your BS elsewhere. You don't have a YFZ. You might have a Predator 90, but that's it. Less than a month ago you were asking about getting a YFZ maybe in 8 months. That would be very fast to get the bike and all the mods you were talking about. Plus, once you got this new bike you have been dreaming about forever, where did you post that. Shortly before that you were asking about how to wheelie...I.E. you have no bike and no skills.
You should get some help. Anybody that has to come on here a try to pump themselves up or define themselves by this website or by what they think other people will think of them because of this website has some serious self esteem issues.
Now, if you want to come on here to learn about stuff and provide useful, helpful and most importantly, truthful information, that's fine. If not, it's very easy for me to link all you old posts that show you are full of it.
Don't hate because you don't got the skills.
Posted by: keelam
i was about to start saying bad things, but I already got the last warning from a moderator, cough cough...LTZevil400...cough cough. He told me that I got the eye of all the moderators on me so I would have to watch what i say.
Posted by: keelam
yfz 450.
Posted by: keelam
your so freaking over rated....how can the predator beat a yfz450 stock for stock. huh?
Posted by: keelam
ahahahhaha
Posted by: keelam
yall got some funny jokes, dont get me wrong......
Posted by: keelam
exactly how fast?? huh?
Posted by: Webopper
I put the spankin on a YFZ over the weekend. Dude had to run back to the trailer to pick the rocks out of his teeth...
Footnote...didn't really count. We were at over 9000 feet and neither of us rejetted. He was running like a 180 and he could barely hit the throttle without it boggin. I know it didn't count, but it still felt GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD.
Posted by: Webopper
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Originally posted by: keelam
I raced against a piped, and jetted 700r and smoked it with my quad. mine accelerated faster and i topped out higher than him too because of my low gearing transmission. If i could take a piped 700r, i think i can take a predator with ease.
Once again, you are on here lying about everything and anything. Didn't you learn your lesson? Take your BS somewhere else, you have no credability on this site what so ever and the post above is a good example of why.
Posted by: Webopper
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Originally posted by: keelam
I raced against a piped 700r and I killed it with my stock yfz450 when i first got it. I won by like 3 quad lengths. I think it was just my skills.hr>
I thought I told you to take your BS elsewhere. You don't have a YFZ. You might have a Predator 90, but that's it. Less than a month ago you were asking about getting a YFZ maybe in 8 months. That would be very fast to get the bike and all the mods you were talking about. Plus, once you got this new bike you have been dreaming about forever, where did you post that. Shortly before that you were asking about how to wheelie...I.E. you have no bike and no skills.
You should get some help. Anybody that has to come on here a try to pump themselves up or define themselves by this website or by what they think other people will think of them because of this website has some serious self esteem issues.
Now, if you want to come on here to learn about stuff and provide useful, helpful and most importantly, truthful information, that's fine. If not, it's very easy for me to link all you old posts that show you are full of it.
Posted by: Webopper
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Originally posted by: keelam
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Originally posted by: Webopper
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Originally posted by: keelam
I raced against a piped 700r and I killed it with my stock yfz450 when i first got it. I won by like 3 quad lengths. I think it was just my skills.hr>
I thought I told you to take your BS elsewhere. You don't have a YFZ. You might have a Predator 90, but that's it. Less than a month ago you were asking about getting a YFZ maybe in 8 months. That would be very fast to get the bike and all the mods you were talking about. Plus, once you got this new bike you have been dreaming about forever, where did you post that. Shortly before that you were asking about how to wheelie...I.E. you have no bike and no skills.
You should get some help. Anybody that has to come on here a try to pump themselves up or define themselves by this website or by what they think other people will think of them because of this website has some serious self esteem issues.
Now, if you want to come on here to learn about stuff and provide useful, helpful and most importantly, truthful information, that's fine. If not, it's very easy for me to link all you old posts that show you are full of it.
Don't hate because you don't got the skills. hr>
I'm going to give you credit...at least you have a sense of humor.
Posted by: Webopper
Probably good advice...
Posted by: Webopper
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Originally posted by: 1bad450r
Ok enough of the non-sence. The predator would not beat a yfz in a drag race stock for stock. I highly doubt it would even come close. This whole thread is rediculous..
Wow, really? My stock preddy beat a piped and jetted YFZ without it even being close. Dude couldn't hook up at all, and I was 2 lenghts before I hit second. For anyone to say this can't beat that is a rediculous statement. Under the right or wrong circumstances, everything is beatable.
Posted by: Webopper
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Originally posted by: 400EXtreme1
the yfz would beat it. With out a doubt
Now we are to "without a doubt". Well, if it would beat it without a doubt, why didn't it? There is a very logical explaination why it didn't, but I'm curious to hear from you why without a doubt, it would beat it, but didn't.
Posted by: Webopper
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Originally posted by: 1bad450r
This thread is rediculous and quite honestly just old d@mn news.
I agree with you there...
Posted by: Webopper
Maybe the 60cc and 5hp in stock form will help that. Also, I don't know too many people that ride thier quads (at least very long) dry. Now, I know different dynos will give different numbers, but if all machines are run on the same dyno, then that's the real test. This is the only place I have found that has run a variety of machines on the same dyno and posted the results. I don't see where these guys would be biased toward any particular manufacturer either. If you look at dry weight to power ratios, based on the numbers at MJT, you will see that these 2 bikes are nearly identical with the Preddy at about 11.2 lbs/horse and the yfz at 10.9.
Now, I know the next thing everybody is going to come back with..." I know the YFZ puts out 38 HP stock, I've read it everywhere". Well, of course you have, cause that's what the manufacturer put out that it does. I've seen that the Predator does 42...so what!!! Point being, no 2 dynos are going to give the same number, and the manufacturer puts the highest one on their propoganda. Much like bow manufacturers and their IBO speed...if you're up on that.
Bottom line, these are 2 very fast and powerful bikes. The biggest difference will be what (who) is on the seat.
Posted by: Webopper
Dang man, it was dead, I think we killed it good, and now you brought the creature back to life with the 700r thing...I don't have the energy, well, actually I don't have the data, so maybe it's dead again...
DO NOT RESUSCITATE
LOL
Posted by: Webopper
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Originally posted by: CRAZY660Raptors
everyone in here is stupid predators cant beat a yfz450 my god and it wouldnt even touch my 660 raptor so polaris can suck on co*k for all i care they jus have good work quads with the sportsman 800 that is all i have to say goodbye
That's as articulate and intelligent a post as I've seen on here in a long time. How can you argue with those facts?
Posted by: Webopper
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Originally posted by: DrDune
If the wind is blowing from east to west with a barometric pressure setting @ 30.05 them the YFZ would win. If the wind is blowing from north to south with a 35% chance of rain then the predator would win. If the wind is calm and the predator is running stock then the YFZ kicks ass. If the above is reversed with a humidity setting of 62% then the predator would win. Unless the wind is blowing north by north east with a west by south west trajectory then the YFZ would win, but only by one bike length. Got It!! hr>
That would explain my recent victory...or was it a defeat?
Posted by: Webopper
My pics show the '05 LE...Spyder's ride is HOT though. Still lovin the looks of that thing.
If you can find an '05 LE now, which will be tough, there are deals to be had on it.
Posted by: Webopper
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Originally posted by: Billiam11
polaris's blow
WOW, only 13 posts into it on this forum and already you are showing such wisdom and knowledge. I can't wait to see what you have in store for us when you grow up...
Posted by: Webopper
Nothing like diggin up a thread that was crap 6 months ago and is still crap today...
Posted by: Webopper
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Originally posted by: spyder6
i really, honestly, with full emotion, hate idiots, and this board is full of them.
Amen brother....A - freakin - men!!!
Posted by: JRThibber
predator
Posted by: Torbinx
I didnt bother to read all the gabbing inbetween but I know a 450 will. not sure if pred is quicker top end but heres a video of proof, its 15.5meg and has a bunch of quad drags. I know the pred has a e-series full exhaust not sure about anything esle or the on the 450 but the yfz wins by about 6 quad lengths. The drag with the yfz and pred is 1min 20secs in fyi. movie link
Posted by: 1bad450r
The predator wouldn't stand an ice cubes chance in hell racing either one of the 450's. Especially the YFZ.
Posted by: 1bad450r
well im not trying to be an a-hole here or start a my bike is better than yours arguement because im just really not gonna argue here. I havent seen alot of predators run because honestly not many people have them around here. Just isnt a popular bike in this area. Once again im not tryin to be an a-hole but the predators that are around here are usually on the bad end of an ass-whoopin on the drag strip. I see them lose the most to the rappys and 450's.
Posted by: 1bad450r
LOL... Then after that race me and ricky can line up on the strip, him on a Yamaha Breeze and me on my 450.. OOO I better watch out he is pretty good. Drag racing and MX are apples and oranges. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to go fast in a straight line. Rider definatly plays a part in any type of riding but some alot more than others and thats a fact.
Posted by: 1bad450r
Ok enough of the non-sence. The predator would not beat a yfz in a drag race stock for stock. I highly doubt it would even come close. This whole thread is rediculous..
Posted by: 1bad450r
You know maybe he couldn't hook up and maybe that is how you supposidly beat him. I'm not saying that the predator is a bad bike so don't get you underwear in a twist. The fact of the matter is that a yfz 450 IS faster than a predator and that is what I'm talking about, which bike is just a straight up faster machine. Everyone can sit and argue about this for the next year and nobody is going to get anywhere because everyone is just going to say that there bike is faster than the next guys so really whats the point. This thread is rediculous and quite honestly just old d@mn news.
Posted by: 1bad450r
I agree, they both are powerful fun bikes. Who cares about all this. Atleast we all have bikes, lets quite arguing and go ride!
Posted by: 1bad450r
Congradulations YFZRyder for starting the most rediculous thread in ATV Connection history. This is really getting stupid now, who gives a crap? This site must be mostly kids because we're all acting like freakin 12 year olds. They are all fun to ride and not one of us on here would turn down any of these bikes so stop damn arguing.
Posted by: 1bad450r
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Originally posted by: DrDune
If the wind is blowing from east to west with a barometric pressure setting @ 30.05 them the YFZ would win. If the wind is blowing from north to south with a 35% chance of rain then the predator would win. If the wind is calm and the predator is running stock then the YFZ kicks ass. If the above is reversed with a humidity setting of 62% then the predator would win. Unless the wind is blowing north by north east with a west by south west trajectory then the YFZ would win, but only by one bike length. Got It!! hr>
LMAO! That is halarious.
Posted by: 1bad450r
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Originally posted by: gooligan
all right i have a 2003 predator 500 with modifications done to it but only mods done to it is for lookss.. nuttin has been done to the engine like no pipe no jet kit no rev box and so on but would like to add those mods to it in future.. i raced the 2005 yfz 450 that has a jet kit and titanium 4 FMF pipe against my 03 pred.. it was pretty much a even race the hole way but i slowly started to pull away but then the road ended the yfz 450's are great quads and i know that it all depends on the rider and the riders weight but thats just what i think about the predator and the yfz. i read this forum before i raced the yfz 450 and now that i have raced it i registered and i posted my comment... there is 2 years difference between each of the quads but my pred also has 50cc up on it so by him jetting it and piping it gave him about 50cc gain on his bike.. but what it really comes down to is the rider... but i think if the predator raced the yfz 450 stock the predator would win buy a big gain.
Well you better hope you don't race any Rappy 660's any time soon cause your gonna have to do all kinds of mods to get that 160cc's worth of power he has over you.. (i wish there was a rolling eyes face)
Posted by: 1bad450r
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Originally posted by: gooligan
lol u know when u say race a raptor and good luck becuz the 160cc over me its not like that polaris and yamaha are to different makes of engines and i have read magazines that say the the predator beat a moded raptor 660 flat out.. the motor in the predators are japanese motors. when u hear 660cc and 500cc u just automatically think o the 660cc one for sure but what people gotta remember is that the motor size for different makes is nuttin. like look the yfz 450 can beat a 660 raptor and there both yamaha like whats up with that or its close. all im saying is the companys are different and motors cant be built exactly to each comapnys setting like suzuki and yamaha and polaris and so on this is comfusing but its true and ppl that know there bikes and quads will understand me
I was being a smart a$$ you turd. You're the one talking all this crazy non-sence about how by him piping and jetting his bike he got about a 50cc gain and how stock to stock the predator will beat the yfz by a big gain. What the hell is a big gain?? And learn how to put sentances together for God sakes, its rediculous, you have like eight run-on sentances in that post. I think the only one "comfused" here is you. Learn how to spell. And I hope you don't mean a stock predator beat a modded 660 flat out, yeah oook, I'd love to see that one. Bottom line buddy, don't talk to me like I don't know anything about engines or how this stuff work. If anyone sounds like they don't know sh!t from shinuba about this whole subject it is definatly you.
Posted by: 1bad450r
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Originally posted by: Bradracer18
I don't know the mph's.......off hand. I'm not just throwing these numbers out either......they are factual.....that is.....the 4.5 and 4.4sec.........
It doesn't suprise me the yfz didn't have those good times, nor the z.........the pred is faster, when modded, like I've been saying........especially faster than a z........
You have seen rappy and bomb times that fast right???
It's definatly possible. I know the Sparks 450 runs around like 4.3-4.4.. Something like that. I just haven't seen alot of real fast preddy's. If you have any vids let me know, I'd love to see one of those things in that area.
Posted by: 1bad450r
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Originally posted by: Bradracer18
this guy is a joke......talking to me??? i have been here a while bud......no joke here.......come up to SW Iowa....with your yfz, and z......see who wins........we'll race for more than your cheap talk too!!!!
Talk to the bomb guys......they'll admit the pred is quick.......
Don't listen to Mdaddy's non-sence Brad. He's somewhat of a jackass, I don't know how many times I am going to have to say that. They do have some pretty nice Preddy's on that site. They had some pretty nice wins from what they say, I just wish they would have posted up some times to go with those wins. It does say in that gallery page that "Doug's 558 full drag predator" runs 4's which is impressive. Good website.
Posted by: 1bad450r
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Originally posted by: spyder6
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Originally posted by: MarkFiddling
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Originally posted by: spyder6
i think in a drag it does hr>
How long of a drag?....
id say 300ft because a short drag, the YFZ is light and fast enough to get away before the raptor starts pulling back
Well I've had some experiance here and most of the time the Rappy jumps out front about half track and never looks back. And no it wasn't a crappy rider, this was running 4-5 different bikes and riders.
Posted by: 1bad450r
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Originally posted by: spyder6
a rappy 700?
The 660.. And I know you guys have been talking about the 700's but whats the difference. If the 660 was doing it I dont think the 700 should have a huge problem.
Posted by: warriorguy22
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Originally posted by: gooligan
all right i have a 2003 predator 500 with modifications done to it but only mods done to it is for lookss.. nuttin has been done to the engine like no pipe no jet kit no rev box and so on but would like to add those mods to it in future.. i raced the 2005 yfz 450 that has a jet kit and titanium 4 FMF pipe against my 03 pred.. it was pretty much a even race the hole way but i slowly started to pull away but then the road ended the yfz 450's are great quads and i know that it all depends on the rider and the riders weight but thats just what i think about the predator and the yfz. i read this forum before i raced the yfz 450 and now that i have raced it i registered and i posted my comment... there is 2 years difference between each of the quads but my pred also has 50cc up on it so by him jetting it and piping it gave him about 50cc gain on his bike.. but what it really comes down to is the rider... but i think if the predator raced the yfz 450 stock the predator would win buy a big gain.
keep dreaming
Posted by: warriorguy22
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Originally posted by: MarkFiddling
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Originally posted by: spyder6
i think in a drag it does hr>
How long of a drag?....
I was spanking preds in 300ft drags that were piped and jetted.
Posted by: 400EXtreme1
the yfz would beat it. With out a doubt
Posted by: Boooost
Just to let you guys know my friend has a YFZ-450 and my brother has a Pred 500. I took the Pred and raced from a dig pulled on the Yfz very easily only at 3/4 or less throttle. Then we did it 4 more times after that one being from a roll on and still was consistant. Now He is a pretty good rider with me beind fair and not laying into it all the way becaue of the short streach that we ran on. I am not biased because I do not own one so I have reason to pick sides of the two, plus the YFZ is a little hesitent from a start?????
Posted by: CRAZY660Raptors
i own a 2003 660 raptor special edition thats piped and jetted and i have been beat by them all and i have beat them all its all rider and wut u got in it plain and simple my buddy races his yfz 450 and its ballzy and my buddy owns a pred 500 and i can kick both there asses in a drag by about a quad link i jus started this thing so i gotta get sum pics of my quad on here so u guys can have ur jaw drop lol jk peeps
Posted by: CRAZY660Raptors
everyone in here is stupid predators cant beat a yfz450 my god and it wouldnt even touch my 660 raptor so polaris can suck on co*k for all i care they jus have good work quads with the sportsman 800 that is all i have to say goodbye
Posted by: Grizzly09
easily the predator ...yall dont noe jak!!
lol keelam
Posted by: powerismygame
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Originally posted by: Boooost
Just to let you guys know my friend has a YFZ-450 and my brother has a Pred 500. I took the Pred and raced from a dig pulled on the Yfz very easily only at 3/4 or less throttle. Then we did it 4 more times after that one being from a roll on and still was consistant. Now He is a pretty good rider with me beind fair and not laying into it all the way becaue of the short streach that we ran on. I am not biased because I do not own one so I have reason to pick sides of the two, plus the YFZ is a little hesitent from a start?????
i dont even understand what he typed, and i read it 5 times.img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">
Posted by: WYOYFZ450
If you have 2 stock mach. the pred will stand out more. but the problem is you can dump alot of money into a pred and not see big changes and it weighs a ton. I have a tricked out YFZ and have freinds that ride pred trx450 raptors. We ride at the big dunes (Chokecherry) and the only quad that even touches mine is a tricked out banshee with 100+Hp. It all depends on the mods and the riding conditions. He with the most money goes the fastest..............
Posted by: MarkFiddling
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Originally posted by: 02Polaris400
oh yeh. thoes new 700's are FAST!! it was all re-designed from the 660 and now EFI now thats crazy. it's going on my dream list too.
But is it fast enough to beat the YFZ450? hmmmm...............
Posted by: MarkFiddling
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Originally posted by: spyder6
i think in a drag it does hr>
How long of a drag?....
Posted by: MarkFiddling
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Originally posted by: warriorguy22
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Originally posted by: MarkFiddling
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Originally posted by: spyder6
i think in a drag it does hr>
How long of a drag?....
I was spanking preds in 300ft drags that were piped and jetted.
Still.
Posted by: MarkFiddling
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Originally posted by: spyder6
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Originally posted by: MarkFiddling
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Originally posted by: spyder6
i think in a drag it does hr>
How long of a drag?....
id say 300ft because a short drag, the YFZ is light and fast enough to get away before the raptor starts pulling back
Thats what I said!!
Posted by: mdaddy
the yfz would and will destroy the polais. i cant believe some of you people are saying the predator will actually outrun the yfz. this is just stupid. most z400s will outrun predators. any predator that has a pipe and jetted i have an 06 yfz that will destroy you by atleast 3 links. no problem. it only has a yoshi pipe. cum get some, you will get completely innahalated in a drag race JJJJJJEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZEEEEEE
Posted by: mdaddy
anyone around texas la or ark. with a piped predator write back and i will happily meet up for money on a 300 ft drag. ive watched my best friend destroy alot of fast stuff. this is a complete joke
Posted by: mdaddy
badracer18, i said piped and jetted... anybody who is stupid enough come get some of the yfz. this is not even worth me argiun about your an idiot. i have waxed plenty of predator with my z let alone my best friends yfz. this guy is a complete JOKE
Posted by: mdaddy
I SAID A PIPED AND JETTED PREDATORS YOU IDIOTS
Posted by: mdaddy
yeah okay yalll can sit on these forums and talk sh!t but yall cant find a piped predator to outrun me on this 06 piped yfz sorry it will never happen.
Posted by: mdaddy
brad get off the floor and get your head out of your buddys pants. your sick
Posted by: gooligan
all right i have a 2003 predator 500 with modifications done to it but only mods done to it is for lookss.. nuttin has been done to the engine like no pipe no jet kit no rev box and so on but would like to add those mods to it in future.. i raced the 2005 yfz 450 that has a jet kit and titanium 4 FMF pipe against my 03 pred.. it was pretty much a even race the hole way but i slowly started to pull away but then the road ended the yfz 450's are great quads and i know that it all depends on the rider and the riders weight but thats just what i think about the predator and the yfz. i read this forum before i raced the yfz 450 and now that i have raced it i registered and i posted my comment... there is 2 years difference between each of the quads but my pred also has 50cc up on it so by him jetting it and piping it gave him about 50cc gain on his bike.. but what it really comes down to is the rider... but i think if the predator raced the yfz 450 stock the predator would win buy a big gain.
Posted by: gooligan
lol dont have to dream bud i know i raced him and i know what i saw..
Posted by: gooligan
lol u know when u say race a raptor and good luck becuz the 160cc over me its not like that polaris and yamaha are to different makes of engines and i have read magazines that say the the predator beat a moded raptor 660 flat out.. the motor in the predators are japanese motors. when u hear 660cc and 500cc u just automatically think o the 660cc one for sure but what people gotta remember is that the motor size for different makes is nuttin. like look the yfz 450 can beat a 660 raptor and there both yamaha like whats up with that or its close. all im saying is the companys are different and motors cant be built exactly to each comapnys setting like suzuki and yamaha and polaris and so on this is comfusing but its true and ppl that know there bikes and quads will understand me
Posted by: gooligan
hey bradracer if u have msn mine is gooligangooligan715@hotmail.com im on right now and add me i would like to talk to you about the predator
Posted by: 02Polaris400
yo man i am responding to this warrior guy. i know this gooligan guy we know each other from school and i seen the race and he did win. close race all teh way through and the predator started to clean house at the end slowly pulling away. polaris prediotrs are fast quads. don't doubt this kid for a minute that he did'nt beat this 450 because he did. you should get to know the quads better before you start judging them. if you still don't beleave me or gooligan you can come up from where ever you live probly the u.s. and come to canada we would race a 450 for you and beat it. heck if you come up bring you little warrior and i'll bring my scrambler 400 and i'll beat you there too. show you how racing is done.... but i'm finsihed what i had to say which was a polaris preditor 500 will beat a yfz450 i know it's hard to hear in the ears of a yamaha fan but you gotta face it.
Posted by: 02Polaris400
dream on buddy. that would be a easy way for a preditor to make a couple bucks. i wish i lived way down in hickville becasue it seems like nobody knows what they are talking about down there and i would take you on and make myself some money.
Posted by: 02Polaris400
i know this is off topic but man a 1986 honda 250r with a 650 crotchrocket motor in it. holy that thing would scream. how fast does she go? ... i used to have a 1986 honda 250r too but the engine was blown and i just sold it. i wish now i kept it to play around with.
Posted by: 02Polaris400
hahah.. nice call. ya m daddy or what ever you like to call yourself you don't even know what you are talking about. you just keep ggetting shut down. a 1997 warrior...... SUCKS.
Posted by: 02Polaris400
hey Brad racer.. i was thinking about trading in my old 2000 scrambler and maybe buying a faster quad. possibly a preditor because i am very pleased with polaris's quality and i was just wondering how fast a stock preditor would run? and how you find they handle jumps? .. do they handle jumps better than let's say a 660 raptor?
Posted by: 02Polaris400
spyder is yours a LE too?
Posted by: 02Polaris400
spyder i seen the pics of your pred. it look awsome. there nice looking machines. i don't know much about the preds tho. what is the difference between the normal pred 500 and the pred 500 LE?
Posted by: 02Polaris400
nice.. when did they start making the LE edition? like in 2004? and how much more is the LE edition?
Posted by: 02Polaris400
yeh spyder8 is right Billiam11. and plus the only blowing a polaris will do is the blowing past the yamaha 660 raptor!
Posted by: 02Polaris400
oh yeh. thoes new 700's are FAST!! it was all re-designed from the 660 and now EFI now thats crazy. it's going on my dream list too.
Posted by: Billiam11
oh my god that yz450 has a large advantage against its opponet...there is no way the only thing close to beatin that thing is the new honda.
Posted by: Billiam11
are u kiddin me in the trails!?!?! polaris's make the HEAVIEST BIKES AROUND
ur kiddin grright
Posted by: Billiam11
polaris's blow
Posted by: BadASSFast
The YFZ would
