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Posted by: ElectricShift
We have two and they're great for just getting on and having fun.
Posted by: Raptorlegs
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Originally posted by: OldGrump
I am 6'0 and weigh 235 and want to buy a Z250 ride with family. When I was a teenager a 250cc was considered the "Big Boy" atv. Now everybody says you must have a 300 or 400 in some cases a 600. Why must you have all those CC's to have fun? Have they changed the gear ratio where the 250 cc dont perform like they did 15 years ago or what. Please give me some feedback on this! I would like some opinions on size and performance. i dont want to start a brand thread or anything , just reasons why you need more cc's
I think it was a lot different back with 3 wheels too. They just flat weighed a lot less. My 200x was 280lbs versus what? 350lbs for a 250ex? Not to mention I was lighter too! BR>
A 250cc will tote most people around fine on a hard pack surface. But I think you'll be much happier with that 400!
Posted by: Raptorlegs
For the most part, the majority of atvs have always been 4-strokes with the exception of the sport models.
Posted by: blindside350
You are going to be cramped riding a Z250, 250s aren't full sized quads anymore the Z250 is now an entry level quad...But for about the same price (2500-3000) you could either get a 400ex or a Warrior and have plenty of fun w/ the fam...
Posted by: blindside350
Excellent choice looks like you love Suzuki
Posted by: Scooter86
OldGrump,
a lot of the old sport quads are still around or just recently discontinued. The 300ex and Raptor 350(Warrior) are examples. I had a new 230 Quadsport in '86 when I was only 14 and 150lbs. I got bored with the power it had after about 6 months. The new z250 has the same size engine as that old Quadsport, but has shaft drive and an auto clutch which will both deprive it of performance potential. At 235lbs the z will move you around, sure. But by spending a little more up front you will get more power, a bigger, more comfortable frame, and better suspension. If your wife is not an experienced rider, then a z250 is a good quad for her. Plus you can always keep it for when your kids get bigger while moving your wife into something better.
Posted by: Scooter86
Congrats!! I think you made a great decision, and I'm sure your Zuk will treat you right.
Posted by: Curls
250cc quads are way too small for full sized adults. I bought a Yamaha Bear Tracker for my wife and she liked it at first, and it worked well for trail riding. After a couple of years we started to ride more challenging trails. On one outing we were trying to get over a hill and that little quad just didn't have the power to make it. I tried to force it over by getting a running start and just at the top the quad ran out of power and slid backwards until it flipped over and rode me the rest of the way down. My wife now owns an 04 Grizzly no more hill problems. I still own the Bear Tracker and still ride it but I am acutely aware of it's limitations. It's a great loaner quad for visiting family and the kids ride it and have a blast. Adults need 400cc minimum or sooner or later you'll end up in a situation where having too little power could be more dangerous then too much.
Go big or go home! BR>
Posted by: OldGrump
I am 6'0 and weigh 235 and want to buy a Z250 ride with family. When I was a teenager a 250cc was considered the "Big Boy" atv. Now everybody says you must have a 300 or 400 in some cases a 600. Why must you have all those CC's to have fun? Have they changed the gear ratio where the 250 cc dont perform like they did 15 years ago or what. Please give me some feedback on this! I would like some opinions on size and performance. i dont want to start a brand thread or anything , just reasons why you need more cc's
Posted by: OldGrump
Blindside350, thanks for your opinion. I have ridden other atvs Z-400,Warrior,Predator and a few others not to mention. I was kind of looking for a bike that my wife could also ride but You have to understand that i will be buying 4 atvs within the next three months. Two kid atvs and one for wife and one for me.
Posted by: OldGrump
Blackbird, I guess time does fly makes you wonder what happened to the easy old days. My cousin has a z-400 and he really thinks it the perfect bike for me. most would do trail riding ,farm riding and some small private backyard tracks.
Posted by: OldGrump
Well guys thanks for all the input. I am now looking at either a Z-400 or a KFX400 . I know they are the same bike. Just cant make up my mind White or Lime Green. Both of them look good!! maybe I'll flip a coin or ask the kids. .
Posted by: OldGrump
Well Guys its been a while since I have been on here. I bought my wife a Suzuki Z-250 and she loves . I took it for a spin. It fits me comfortably and had plenty of power. I'm still thinking of a Z-400 but if I had to buy me a Z-250 for myself I wouldnt have any regrets. have fun and keep riding.
Posted by: OldGrump
Well Guys, I finally did it. Today I bought me a 2005 Z-400 White w/Blue frame and stripes. I got a great deal on it, the dealer was trying to get rid of his inventory to make room for the new 06 models coming next month. He assured me that the only changes would be the colors for the yellow would have a blue seat. The bike is pretty fast, and I dont think I needed to wait for the Z-450. The Z-400 is fast enough for me. Thanks for all your input and opinions.
Old Grump
Posted by: 86LT250RFatty
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Originally posted by: OldGrump
I am 6'0 and weigh 235 and want to buy a Z250 ride with family. When I was a teenager a 250cc was considered the "Big Boy" atv. Now everybody says you must have a 300 or 400 in some cases a 600. Why must you have all those CC's to have fun? Have they changed the gear ratio where the 250 cc dont perform like they did 15 years ago or what. Please give me some feedback on this! I would like some opinions on size and performance. i dont want to start a brand thread or anything , just reasons why you need more cc's
because your probobly thinking when you were a kid, every bike was 2-stroke, now its 4-stroke, 250cc 2stroke makes WAYYYY more hp then 250cc 4-stroke.
Posted by: Banshee392
Get the KFX400, they look better IMO.
Posted by: promod69camaro
I like larger engines also. There is nothing like not having the power to make it up a hill. For this reason, I purchased a KFX 700. It has a lot of power. My GPS says it will go 72 MPH on hard ground. You do have to be careful with flipping it over. I have a friend that rode it 3 feet before it went over on him. He rode in a flight for life helicopter to the nearest hospital. He is ok. Get the larger engine with the suspension you like. You can always tune it down until you want more power.
Posted by: BigBaller
If you think about it the older 250's like the R and the Lt and the tecate are still some of the fastest quads.
Posted by: poopy
you cant go wrong with the Z/kfx400 it is the best all around quad
Posted by: Lefty31
Dun get the Z of the KFX get the DVX 400 all the same the DVX just looks 10x better.....you may get a bit dirtier but it all washes off right?
Posted by: ATSAaron
MY wife just bought a Z250 today. We didn't pick it up yet, the local delaer is trying to locate a yellow '05 model for her. The size is very close to the Z400. I had bought an older Warrior to restore for her, but she really prefers an auto clutch. The Z250 has a bigger carb. and engine than the Honda 250EX (229cc).
Aaron
Posted by: blackbird
because in our day 250cc was a 2 stroke and thats why it was a big boy atv.to get the 250cc 2stroke power you have to get 400cc 4strokes.
Posted by: blackbird
like you said you have riden them ,and pick the best one you like best and go have fun
Posted by: thorrider250
a lotof quads back then were two strokes also. now everything is four strokes which arent as fast
i have a z250 and felt it underpowered after about a year. id suggest you get a 400
Posted by: Wheelerbob
Hey old grump, I just joined this site to give you my two cent's. I was in the same boat back in october 04. I'm 6'4 and weigh in at 260 lbs, I've been riding for just over 20 year's now and i remember it the same as you. I've had 250r's both 3 & 4 wheel's Back in the day , in fact i bought a atc250r brand new in 86, having said that i also remember that the last time i was really into riding the 250x was the big dawg four stroke on the block, in fact the 300ex hadn't even been released yet. And yes i had a 250x too, i had a lot of fun on that thing, but these's day's to have a so called real quad it must be 400 cc's or bigger. Well i hope i don't rub anyone the wrong way since i'm new to the site and all but that is bull, not everyone need's to smoke through the wood's at 75mph or jump 20 feet in the air. In fact some people just want to ride for the fun of it, so when i went looking for a wheeler i remembered back to the day's when a 250 was just fine. I looked for reliability and not so much size. To make a long story short i bought a 250ex, I piped & jetted it and ride the hell out of it. To this point i've had my ex in mud up to the fender's with no problem's, I've also never failed to make it up any hill i've tried in 2nd gear. To get to the point my 250ex has plenty of power for me, don't get me wrong all the 400's and 450's are much faster I just don't need all that. my 250r day's are over. By the way at 6'4 i'm not cramped on the 250, so in my opinion youl be just fine on a 250z or ex. Just my two cent's. P.S sorry for the length of the post.
