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Posted by: sugarhead
I have a Mojave,the 1 kid I use to ride with last year had a blaster.He couldnt get traction in the snow
like the MO could an when he got stuck he had to ge toff it which was a zillion times WHile I sat there waited an laughed.The I clicked it down turned reverse knob an backed up an out LLOL.For top end an if Ya like to tinker the blaster for overall the Mojave,the 300 ex is a good quad 2 an might have better suspension then the MO but its not like MOjave owners dont have options tho
Posted by: sugarhead
ya like what the last guy said JK.It depends on what your gonna use it for like mx all around etc.The blaster is better for mx sand but it is a 2 stroke an will need more rebuilds an maintenance.I have ridden a 300 ex an its just like the mojave.There both 4 strokes maintenance is minimal put oil an gas in them an they will last along time before rebuilds.I believe they can both be made to work on an mx track too but there engines are slower reviing then a 2 stroke.Believe it or not the mojave fels very 2 stroke to me for some reason.Well good luck in your choice there all good bikes,the rider usually makes the bike not the bike the rider.Im tellin ya the truth just take care of your stuff an youll have fun in the long run*
Posted by: SANDMAN430
all round 300 ex
Posted by: reconranger
Better add the Honda 250EX to this list! Otherwise, it's incomplete.....
.......and, the new Raptor 250 (4-stroke) already announced (see Yamaha's web site). This will be the Blaster's replacement. Hopefully, it will be a hot little machine too.........
Posted by: clover
fastest-blaster,but barely over mojave,300ex
cheapest-z250
good trail atv-all of them
all around-My pick is the 300ex,because it is almost equal in power to the others,but has better suspension,handling,and is more comfortable.
Posted by: ElectricShift
" B-L-A-S-T-E-R-S A-R-E B-E-T-T-E-R T-H-A-N T-H-E 4-0-0-E-X A-N-D T-H-E Z-4-0-0 A-ND E-V-E-R-T-H-I-N-G E-L-S-E "
LOL
Posted by: ElectricShift
Banshee392 your blaster is awesome! They look neat without the stock tires
nice bike man
Posted by: Raptorlegs
I think you should judge a bike for it's potential and not what it does stock.
They never seem to stay that way for long. At least for me. If we were comparing a 250X to a 250r, which would you choose?
You put that extra $700 back into that blaster and hold on tight. Probably at least come close to getting you a pipe, jets, reed cage, K&N, milled head and port & polish.
Posted by: Raptorlegs
The average rider can easily get 5+ years out of a 2-stroke between rebuilds. If you ride everyday, then maybe not. But most people don't. I had one dirt bike for 8 years that still ran good. Just use a high quality oil and fresh gasoline.
Besides, 4-strokes have maintenance issues too, like checking/adding/changing oil and adjusting valves. It's 6 or half a dozen the other imo.
Posted by: Raptorlegs
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Originally posted by: MOJAVEalltheway
they require alot of maitnence if you plain of drivin it for a couple year ( motors blowing up, ect.......)
Frankly, you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by: ridinsmooth
1.Blaster
2.Mojave
3.300ex
4.z250
It seems you knew which one would be first because of you topic
Posted by: NLWarrior01
Pretty sad isn't it when a 21 year old 250cc quad can whoop on brand new machines with more than 2x the displacement
Posted by: NLWarrior01
I wish I could find a decently priced 250R .. I'm looking at a 95 blaster now, or was till I found out where it is not worth the drive. Maybe a trike .. someone in my area was selling a Tecate 3 ...
Posted by: NLWarrior01
I'm looking under 2k, the little blaster was 1500, but it'll cost me $100 in gas just to go see it. As for ordering machinery off ebay .. I'm not easy about that, especially second hand stuff comging from away .. no warranty. Plus shipping would absolutely kill me. Love your icon b.t.w. .. that's funny chit right there!! LOL
Posted by: NLWarrior01
Might have to revise to a 1992 KDX200 ... back to the dirt bikes again LOL .. though there's also a 1998 KDX220R which gets mixed reviews. It's only a few hundred more. The 220 seems to be a good trail bike, but motocrossers were disappointed with the top end power. Another user said they eat plugs .. bah .. hard to know what to do.
Posted by: NLWarrior01
point taken. mayme that's the route i'll take. the kdx's look hella mean
Posted by: 428mustang
Depends where you live. Here in Corvallis, Oregon, there is only a honda dealer( unless you count Kawasaki mule , yuck ) so Hondas are cheaper cause there is a lot of them rathen then suzuki or whatever. For trail, go with honda. For dunes, go with the blaster cause of speed, weight, ect. But keep in mind that in 2006, a lot of anti-2stroke laws will go into effect. In speed, it would go Blaster, 300ex, then the other two. My friend and his neighbor raced, the neighbor had a Z250 and my friend had a 250ex and the 250ex won.
Posted by: 428mustang
Your smart to reasearch before you buy. I diddn't and I hate what i got, so im gettin a new one. Recons suck
Posted by: 428mustang
Just spend the extra money and get a 400cc. By the time yo make your smaller quad able to beat some thing bigger, you'll have enough invested that it would have been cheaper to go ahead and get the bigger model.
(Man, it's been over a year since I replied to this discussion.)
Posted by: Quad4Fun
I could put a 400ex motor in my 300ex frame, with a few mods to make it work well, and smoke all your a$$es.
hehehehe img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> LMAO, just kidding there to prove a point.
You can mod just about any quad in a certain class of quad and out perform any stock or lesser moded quad.
Generally speaking that is.
So it's not a true/accurate comparison to say I've done this and this mod to quad A and I can smoke quad B.
Mod quad B, and not quad A and now quad A beats quad B.
But as stated earlier, it is good to hear how a certain quad will perform with mods done.
I see this on more of these topics, it's so funny img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
I don't know squat about these quads except what I've researched, read up on, and by talking to those I know that have each one.
I'm looking at getting a new quad for my wife, Looking at the 400ex and Z400, or the smaller 300ex cause it might fit her better for how she will ride it. But I don't want to get her something that is way under powered for what she will do.
I know the two 400's.
So I have read all the shootouts and topics comparing the 300ex and similar quads.
I would suggest you do the same, along with trying to sort out all the banter back and forth here img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">.
Look for the pros and cons of each quad.........
Then decide which qualities and features you want, and how you want the quad to perform according to your riding style.
You definately get a less biased opinion by reading all the different shooutouts.
Don't just read one, find 'em all.
You get lots of good opinions in these topics (including this one), but as this topic clearly shows, it's hard to sort through it all and know how true/unbiased any of it is.
I'm sure there are many good and accurate opinions, but sometimes it is hard to figure out which ones those are img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">BR>
Anyway, Ive rambled enough ...
good luck and I hope you get the one that works best for you.
BTW, I'm leaning towards the 300ex.
Because I've overwhelmingly heard it is very reliable and bullet proof. (which my other Hondas are/were, even my suzuki is)
.....I'm most certainly not Brand loyal. I'm performance and quality loyal.
I don't care who wins a drag race.
I'm looking at how it will perform according to how my wife will ride it.
I like the features and controls.
I like the size and feel.
It has plenty of power, and only needs a few minor mods to compliment the power, for trail riding.
With those few mods and some good paddle tires, it will perform fine for my wife at the dunes for how she rides.
Only real negative I've heard is how the Reverse works. I've tried it out, and although not near the best out there, and it really isn't that bad or a pain to use. At least it has reverse I do hope they decide to improve it someday.
Again, Good Luck
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Originally posted by: bl4cksh337
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Originally posted by: mojavemadness
king whatevr, you need to do YOUR research because i have burned 3 less than 1 year old 300ex's in EVERY dragrace. how can you compare your obsolete 282cc aircooled single over head cam engine to my high performance 249cc dual overhead cam 4 valve liquid cooled powerplant, not to mention stock 11:1 race caliber compression. don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that the 300ex is not a good machine, but it's like comparing the z400 to a 400ex, the z all out is better in every aspect. the only aspect of the mojave that is inferior to the 300ex is suspension, and that's a matter of opinion, personally i think the 300ex's suspension is a little on the soft side. blasters are about as fast stock as a 300ex and i know this from riding experience.my mojave with my mods is dead even with my best friends blaster with v force toomey pipes uni airfilter, airfilter plugs, etc. i don't think you've ever even ridden with a mojave with an experienced rider, or you would know how quick the machine really is. not that it is much faster top speed than the 300ex it is slightly and accelerates faster, ultimately being a better drag racing machine than the 300ex, or any type of riding. i raced my friends with the 300ex's and swapped bikes to see wether the rider made a difference, and it didnt. i have ridden every sport quad that is sold today and all of the discontinued legends and have a good perspective on evry one of these machines so you cant tell me that us mojave riders need to do our research. when we say our mojaves beat 300ex's were nothing but right. your engines economic design and honda's effort to make the machine as reliable as possible makes it have much less potential for improvement over the mojave because it doesnt have the DOHC liquid cooled, fastest design produced
You are plain out wrong. With the money that i saved from buying a mojave or 300ex i have put a toomey b1 pipe, jet, air filter and smoke 400ex up dune hills but maybe its just rider. But anyways with the money you will save you will absolutely slaughter all of those bikes. You don't even have to put any though into that one its a no brainer. I have had my blaster since 99' and have been pushing it as hard as i could and have only had one problem. And that was because i didnt do some basic tuning and that was cleaning my carb. That was it!!! AND mojave madness you are out of your mind. You have no idea wat your talking about, I think your guessing and you have unfortunately guessed wrong!
Its Strange my friend had a 2001 blaster bored .20, jetted, complete toomey b1 pipe, toomey air filter and i was SMOKING him aniytime
Posted by: NichelsonRacing87
blaster is the best with mojave in 2nd
and Sash why do Hondas suck???????????????? everyone bashes on Honda......why????? i don't know, but i have owned Hondas, Suzukis, and Yamahas and i have nothing bad to say about any of them, they are all good manufacturers.....and remember this Honda pretty much started the whole ATV racing with the 250R, except for drags, Banshee's own the drag strip......
Posted by: raptor660rle2003
seeings that I have had both a 300 ex and a blaster, i must say the 300 ex is waay faster than a STOCK blaster, but the blaster is way more fun to ride...add some mods and that blaster will keep right up though.
Posted by: BeastMan
blaster will be faster and work better with mods ect,300ex is slow to me mohavie is better if u ask me
Posted by: tjmax
alright here it is the 300ex will smoke a mojave
the blaster will smoke a mojave
the 300ex is mostly even with the blaster but the blaster has crap for supention.
the z250 is a ozark with difrent plastics
on the track the blaster and 300ex are around the same.
the mojave is a great trail quad
so is the 300ex
the blaster is for smaller riders
u can make any chain drive quad go faster than the compition by the sprockets.
the z250 is by far one of the best trail quads i have seen.
i have riden all of these quads and own a 300ex.
trail
1. z250
2. mojave/300ex
3. blaster
track
1. blaster/300ex
2 .mojave/z250
dunes
1. blaster
2. 300ex
3. z250
4. mojave
all around best
1. 300ex/ blaster
2. z250
3. mojave
Posted by: rolsmojave3
Yeah...I used to run with 300ex's now with my 36mm carb i own them
Posted by: rolsmojave3
put all that together and make one complete thought...not jiberish
Posted by: rolsmojave3
well since i know your just trying to piss me off...1. i have beat a piped blaster with rad valves and very mild porting 2. i've seen a 300ex do the same thing and the mojave and the ex were stock so yeah
Posted by: rolsmojave3
nothings wrong with the clutch...they can handle a ported motor with stiffer springs...but a 240 blaster compared to a stock motored mojave...so that means i could take mine to a 290-300cc's...i'm pretty sure it'd take you then...since a 370 stroker will take a slightly modded YFZ
Posted by: rolsmojave3
finally a smart blaster owner...my buddy has a blaster in the modding process right now...it got lots of motor mods from project blaster and HWD...he got's the old adjustable LRD pipe...before porting..baaaa....after porting that thing hauls some major ass...good god
Posted by: rolsmojave3
you favor the blaster because you own one
Posted by: prieber14
ya know what? why even have these types of forums? they're pointless because most ppl are just gonna say better things about the ones they have or just because they like the brand or something, most likely ppl arent going to tell u they're TRUE feelings about each one, and who knows, they probably didnt even get a chance to ride the other ones anyway...so once again, i say that these types of threads are pointless
Posted by: prieber14
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Originally posted by: 428mustang
My friend and his neighbor raced, the neighbor had a Z250 and my friend had a 250ex and the 250ex won.
AH HA yeah thats right lol
Posted by: prieber14
off topic here..but this thread was started almost a year ago. i cant believe its still going on
Posted by: SickRider
Blaster
Posted by: mojavemadness
the mojave is by far the best trail quad out of the 4. mojave is superior in every aspect to the 300ex except suspension. the z250 is a nice quad but, you will be happier with a quad with a chain drive.the mojave is about as fast as a blaster, and if u want to beat the blaster, just take your airbox lid off. as far as speed is concerned here's how i rate these quads 1.blaster/mojave 2. 300ex 3.z250. i give these quads the same rating for acceleration. as far as the trails are concerned, blasters arent what youre looking for i ride with a bunch of blasters and every 2 mins they stall on the trail, 2 strokes just rnt great for it. as far as the trails r concerned i rate them 1.mojave 2.300ex 3.z250 4.blaster. now all you have to consider is the price blaster is 3100 z250 is 3899 and mojave is 4100 while the 300ex is 4400 or 4600, sry i dont know.
dont listen to ppl who are brand loyal, ill only give u facts that i have learned from my experiences
at the end of the day, blasters r fast fun n cheap, but the reliablility aspect definetly, in my opinion , goes to the mojave with the z250 as the runner up
Posted by: mojavemadness
king whatevr, you need to do YOUR research because i have burned 3 less than 1 year old 300ex's in EVERY dragrace. how can you compare your obsolete 282cc aircooled single over head cam engine to my high performance 249cc dual overhead cam 4 valve liquid cooled powerplant, not to mention stock 11:1 race caliber compression. don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that the 300ex is not a good machine, but it's like comparing the z400 to a 400ex, the z all out is better in every aspect. the only aspect of the mojave that is inferior to the 300ex is suspension, and that's a matter of opinion, personally i think the 300ex's suspension is a little on the soft side. blasters are about as fast stock as a 300ex and i know this from riding experience.my mojave with my mods is dead even with my best friends blaster with v force toomey pipes uni airfilter, airfilter plugs, etc. i don't think you've ever even ridden with a mojave with an experienced rider, or you would know how quick the machine really is. not that it is much faster top speed than the 300ex it is slightly and accelerates faster, ultimately being a better drag racing machine than the 300ex, or any type of riding. i raced my friends with the 300ex's and swapped bikes to see wether the rider made a difference, and it didnt. i have ridden every sport quad that is sold today and all of the discontinued legends and have a good perspective on evry one of these machines so you cant tell me that us mojave riders need to do our research. when we say our mojaves beat 300ex's were nothing but right. your engines economic design and honda's effort to make the machine as reliable as possible makes it have much less potential for improvement over the mojave because it doesnt have the DOHC liquid cooled, fastest design produced
Posted by: styelz
if ur doin trail ridden then the z250 and 300ex would deffinatly be the best....the blaster and mojvie wouldnt have a chance!
Posted by: impactrox92
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Originally posted by: BeastMan
blaster will be faster and work better with mods ect,300ex is slow to me mohavie is better if u ask me
a 300ex kills a mojave in almost anything.
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2003 300ex
hmf slip on
renthal handlebars
flame shock covers
cut front fenders
jetted
uni air filter
scott hand grips
maier handguards
Posted by: impactrox92
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Originally posted by: masterbalster200
a z250 is deff not the cheapest its 3899 the blaster is the cheapest at 3199 and the blaster is the all around best out of these
a stock blaster isnt anything compared to a 300ex. it may have more top speed but worse handling and acceleration.
Posted by: impactrox92
LMAO!!! I have no problem out accelerating 300EX's, even when it stock.
so thats u riding maybe u werent riding with an experienced rider and u shouldnt say u have no problem beatin them off the line when u havent raced them all. but for the kind of riding this guy does i would recomend a 300ex or mojave
Posted by: underpantsnomes3
Which is fastest, cheapest ,good trail atv, and all around better atv. THANKS!
Posted by: underpantsnomes3
Thanks guys
Posted by: underpantsnomes3
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Originally posted by: 428mustang
Your smart to reasearch before you buy. I diddn't and I hate what i got, so im gettin a new one. Recons suck
That sucks!
Posted by: Exrider22
300ex its the most reliable and ive never had a problem beating any of the other quads
Posted by: masterbalster200
a z250 is deff not the cheapest its 3899 the blaster is the cheapest at 3199 and the blaster is the all around best out of these
Posted by: weber
too me there all good quads it is just what u like
Posted by: weber
i think that a blaster is the best for the money.
Posted by: Banshee392
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Originally posted by: impactrox92
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Originally posted by: masterbalster200
a z250 is deff not the cheapest its 3899 the blaster is the cheapest at 3199 and the blaster is the all around best out of these
a stock blaster isnt anything compared to a 300ex. it may have more top speed but worse handling and acceleration.
LMAO!!! I have no problem out accelerating 300EX's, even when it stock.
Posted by: Banshee392
Nitsud, Shut the hell up your making all us blaster owners and compeitive racers look stupid. All in honesty the 240 kit's don't do anything more than add torque unless the kits are ported, and even with that it's gonna run like $hit without an aftermarket pipe like LRD and an aftermarket reed cage like 1dirracing's G3 or Vforce3's reed cage, NOT a rad valve (they suck). And I know for a fact your not beating any 400's with your "240" it takes alot more than that to have a competitive bike. And please put all your n00bish thoughts into one reply because it just makes you look like a postwhore forum noobie.
Posted by: Banshee392
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Originally posted by: ElectricShift
Banshee392 your blaster is awesome! They look neat without the stock tires
nice bike man
Thanks man!!
Posted by: Banshee392
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Originally posted by: Vunit
Yes man...your the best..it is just pissing me off listening to this f**ker rambling on about total bullsh!t...yea dude put all you bullsh!t words into one post....and no way in hell are blaster better than 400ex's and never a z400....lay off the crack....nice bars Banshee392..looks just like mine only in black...sweet blaster too..i like what you have done...
Blasters can be faster than 400EX's and Z400's if you put enough work and money into the motor. Hell you can beat stock shees until they hit 6th and hang with piped ones in the lower gears. It all comes down to how big your wallet is and who does the engine work. There are a few people on projectblaster that hand the 450's their asses in Open class, but they are superior riders and have over 2 grand into their motors.
Posted by: Vunit
z250 and 300ex love the trails, blaster and mojave love the track and dunes. Either the z250 or 300ex.
Posted by: Vunit
Even though i have a lakota i love it and think that what i do type of riding it is great and never gives me any trouble. I'd have to say that the 300ex sound like the quad for you, it's a clutch, a 300 and has reverse which the mojave does not have and if your riding trails you want that. The honda 300ex is bullet proof just make sure you change the oil other wise your fine. The mojave's are also great machines but it a kickstart and has no reverse, more on the racing size like the blaster. Blaster's are good for most things but it's a 2 stroke which mean you better keep on top of everything, i had an 04 and liked it but where i ride it's not the best for and i bottomed the shocks with the jumps i hit, new shocks to much money. The z250 is a nice layed out quad but nothing compared to the 300ex or mojave. Your best with the 300ex or the mojave keep in mind no reverse and it's a kickstart but that's not to bad.
Posted by: Vunit
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Originally posted by: wolverinewildman
better learn to have your facts straight before you talk
kawasaki mojave's always had reverse always.
Nice i should have gotton a mojave then
Posted by: Vunit
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Originally posted by: Banshee392
Nitsud, Shut the hell up your making all us blaster owners and compeitive racers look stupid. All in honesty the 240 kit's don't do anything more than add torque unless the kits are ported, and even with that it's gonna run like $hit without an aftermarket pipe like LRD and an aftermarket reed cage like 1dirracing's G3 or Vforce3's reed cage, NOT a rad valve (they suck). And I know for a fact your not beating any 400's with your "240" it takes alot more than that to have a competitive bike. And please put all your n00bish thoughts into one reply because it just makes you look like a postwhore forum noobie.
Yes man...your the best..it is just pissing me off listening to this f**ker rambling on about total bullsh!t...yea dude put all you bullsh!t words into one post....and no way in hell are blaster better than 400ex's and never a z400....lay off the crack....nice bars Banshee392..looks just like mine only in black...sweet blaster too..i like what you have done...
Posted by: Vunit
yeah i know blaster can be faster than 400ex and z400 but i was looking at it if everything were stock...its just the way nitsud said it "blaster are better than the 400ex and the z400 and everything else" you even know hes just trying to piss people off... but yeah there are some really sick blaster out there and have a ton of work done to them...my buddy had one and it ripped..that all im saying 5000 grand into it...
Posted by: Vunit
first off the mojave will not get smoked by a 300ex...and will stay with a blaster as well...blasters suck on the track cuz of there suspension..that should be the first thing you get on a blaster...most even here are the mojave and the 300ex...the 300ex is by far the best on the trails along with the mojave...the mojave is best on the track cuz it has the best suspension out of all the quads here and have a good amount of power for a 250.....blasters are great beginners quads and great machines to start riding on...i would never say that a blaster is most even with a 300ex cuz that not right at all..REAL MOTORS HAVE VALVES...like i said best all around quads are the 300ex and mojave...the z250 is a great beginners quad as well and perfect for slow trail rding...ive ridden all quads too and have owned most of them in the pass...but no way is the mojave last like you said..
best all around
300ex/mojave
z250/blaster....thats more like it now...
Posted by: Vunit
A CLASSIC NEVER DIES...lol...
Posted by: Vunit
Originally posted by: Fulltiltrider
Originally posted by: Vunit
first off the mojave will not get smoked by a 300ex...and will stay with a blaster as well...blasters suck on the track cuz of there suspension..that should be the first thing you get on a blaster...most even here are the mojave and the 300ex...the 300ex is by far the best on the trails along with the mojave...the mojave is best on the track cuz it has the best suspension out of all the quads here and have a good amount of power for a 250.....blasters are great beginners quads and great machines to start riding on...i would never say that a blaster is most even with a 300ex cuz that not right at all..REAL MOTORS HAVE VALVES...like i said best all around quads are the 300ex and mojave...the z250 is a great beginners quad as well and perfect for slow trail rding...ive ridden all quads too and have owned most of them in the pass...but no way is the mojave last like you said..
best all around
300ex/mojave
z250/blaster....thats more like it now...
I know this is an old thread, someone else brought it back to life and I had to read this page and see the above quote....REAL MOTORS HAVE VALVES.... WTFE dude you have no clue.
I like 4 strokes some make good trail machines and some make good racers, My 250r makes both. more top end speed than the rappys and predetors, more acceleration than the 450's, and as long as you know how to set them up and work a clutch its all controlable power. 2 STROKES FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
haha dude wtf man i love how we go from talkin about blaster mojave's, 300ex's and z250's to 250R's??????um...u cant even compare the legend 250r's...those motors are completely different then blasters setups...of course i dont feel the same way about 250r's then blaster...maybe if you actully read the f**kin full six pages you would have understand wut i was sayin....but come on man the blaster is a cheaply built quad for starters...the 250r's are on a totally different level quads or trikes...i got a 86 atc 250r built...i know wut they can do and they are a pretty seroius machine...even lighter in trikes...all i was gettin outta this tryin to help this kid out here picking out a quad and not makin the same mistake many others did when they get the blaster and it starts giving them problems right away cuz they are known for that...if your new to quads start on a 4 stroke til u get use to how it operates and maintain one...cuz 4 strokes all u have to do is change the oil really...
Posted by: Vunit
Originally posted by: Fulltiltrider
The only real problem with a blaster is the oil injection system. As for "if you are new to quads get a 4 stroke". What do you have to do to a 2 stroke that is all that hard... hmm let me see... CHANGE THE OIL IN THE TRANNY. Thats it. How many people know how to adjust valves, how many people can put a cam in and get the timing right. Any half brain twit can take a jug off a 2 stroke. Order a piston for a $100. Take the jug and piston to the local machine shop. Have it bored and honed for $45. Take it home and slap it together. Presto chango brand new again for for 2 more yrs. I started out working on 2 strokes when i was 14. Trial and error. If I would have had a 4 stroke first I probably would never have gotten into working on engines. Too expensive for trial and error.
btw go mod for mod with a blaster vs. a 300ex or mojave and see what wins. ...............ITS NOT FAST UNLESS THERE'S OIL IN THE GAS............
and what new kid to quads is gonna know how to do all that...most kids when they start know jack bout quads until they start riding and gettin the understand of how the machine operates...i hear ya with blasters are quick for there size im with you on that but come on lets get real if you have never touch an engine b4 dont get a blaster...there a great fun little quad if you know how a 2 stroke has to be ridden...u cant bitch it around like a 4 stroke...the other thing about 4 strokes is they dont break ever other ride like some 2 strokes...
Posted by: Vunit
ya but kids now adays are lazy as all $hit...and they would just be wasting more money to bring it to the shop all the time to get fixed haha...i do agree there wicked easy to work on cuz i had one for a few years and it was a fun little quad like i said but yes kids are really bad with takin care of there things usually they just ride it til it break like u said...bout lockin up the motor cuz theres no oil in the motor...idk even know wut to say thats just retarted...even if u dont know wut your doin when it comes to engines its effortless to at least see how much oil is in a motor...hondas also are know for burning a little oil...
Posted by: Vunit
38 yrs old thats pretty bad...id like to see him change a light bulb...haha he'll probably manage to mess that up too..lol...ya its gonna be close to 800 if not more for a 4 stroke like you were sayin...hes better off keeping his 800 and puttin a down payment on a newer bike or quad at this rate..haha
Posted by: Cocoa
i would go with the blaster... and impactrox92 dude you dont know what the hell your talking about a blaster has way better accel than a 300ex you tard lmao But anyways underpantsnomes3 dont listen to stupid people like impactrox92 but yeah i would go with the blaster they are the bang for the buck
Posted by: quadracer4lyfe
Mojave is faster but not as fun... 300ex does better wheelies but i could ride a wheelie forever on that mojave just takes some getting use to. blaster didnt inpress me at all.
Posted by: poopy
for the funnest quad i would go with the 300ex. that thing is so easy to wheelie. i didnt really see a big difference in performance between the mojave and 300ex. the 300 ex was a little quicker. but once you start modding them the blaster would probably be the best.
Posted by: MOJAVEalltheway
top speed: mojave
handling: mojave/300ex
trails:mojave id say
track:BLASTER
best for mods: id have to go with the blaster
im sure bout the top speed one i looked it up and handling is good for the 300 and mojave but i here the 300s suspension is crap
Posted by: MOJAVEalltheway
yeah hondas are bullet proof bikes i havent seen n e thing bad from any of the manufacturers lately cept for polaris
lol they just plain suck
Posted by: MOJAVEalltheway
ud be happy with any of theses bikes but in my oppinion dont get a blaster there too small and they require alot of maitnence if you plain of drivin it for a couple year ( motors blowing up, ect.......)
Posted by: strongtyer
I dont think that you would want a blaster for the type of riding you do. I have a blaster that i use for mostly trails and it works fine for me but i think that you would be more comfortable on something else like a 300ex or the mojave. however, i dont know crap about anything not yamaha. its true that many people are bias or have a favorite brand, but i will be honest, i dont think the blaster is what your looking for unless you want a cheap 2 stroke that is a whole lot of fun to ride. i havent gotten bored of mine after 1 year and all that ive done to it is put wheele spacers on it. One think i dont like about the blaster is the way it runs and the stock suspention. Anyways, i dont think that you are looking for a z250. they are shaft drive and they have an autoclutch. A blaster would take out the z in most cases (accel, top speed, etc.) I think you are looking at the mojave vs. the 300ex. I think either one would be a good choice, but i dont know anything but what ive heard about these quads. Good luck, this is just my opinion. Sorry for the long post!
Posted by: KVRMUDDRUNNER
Mojave by far the best. It is bullet proof. Look how long they have been makin them. Haven't changed since, what, 1986! Of course the Blaster hasn't changed in yrs either. My friend used to have a 300EX and he loved it but he liked the way my 2001 Mojave steered. Steering on the EX was crap. Turning radius sucked. I could kill a 300 EX with my Mojave. All I did to it was put DG exhaust on it and rejet it. The 300EX has the better suspension out of the 3 atv's you want though. Blaster is just a cheap lil 2 stroke. Thats another thing, depends on if you want a 2 or 4 stroke. Mojave or EX will be better for the trails. I'd go with the Mojave. An ancient, dependable, easy to work on atv that never lets you down. Its kind of like ole yeller, hahhaha.
Posted by: KVRMUDDRUNNER
The Mojave DOES have reverse. One of the best features on the whole quad.
Posted by: bl4cksh337
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Originally posted by: mojavemadness
king whatevr, you need to do YOUR research because i have burned 3 less than 1 year old 300ex's in EVERY dragrace. how can you compare your obsolete 282cc aircooled single over head cam engine to my high performance 249cc dual overhead cam 4 valve liquid cooled powerplant, not to mention stock 11:1 race caliber compression. don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that the 300ex is not a good machine, but it's like comparing the z400 to a 400ex, the z all out is better in every aspect. the only aspect of the mojave that is inferior to the 300ex is suspension, and that's a matter of opinion, personally i think the 300ex's suspension is a little on the soft side. blasters are about as fast stock as a 300ex and i know this from riding experience.my mojave with my mods is dead even with my best friends blaster with v force toomey pipes uni airfilter, airfilter plugs, etc. i don't think you've ever even ridden with a mojave with an experienced rider, or you would know how quick the machine really is. not that it is much faster top speed than the 300ex it is slightly and accelerates faster, ultimately being a better drag racing machine than the 300ex, or any type of riding. i raced my friends with the 300ex's and swapped bikes to see wether the rider made a difference, and it didnt. i have ridden every sport quad that is sold today and all of the discontinued legends and have a good perspective on evry one of these machines so you cant tell me that us mojave riders need to do our research. when we say our mojaves beat 300ex's were nothing but right. your engines economic design and honda's effort to make the machine as reliable as possible makes it have much less potential for improvement over the mojave because it doesnt have the DOHC liquid cooled, fastest design produced
You are plain out wrong. With the money that i saved from buying a mojave or 300ex i have put a toomey b1 pipe, jet, air filter and smoke 400ex up dune hills but maybe its just rider. But anyways with the money you will save you will absolutely slaughter all of those bikes. You don't even have to put any though into that one its a no brainer. I have had my blaster since 99' and have been pushing it as hard as i could and have only had one problem. And that was because i didnt do some basic tuning and that was cleaning my carb. That was it!!! AND mojave madness you are out of your mind. You have no idea wat your talking about, I think your guessing and you have unfortunately guessed wrong!
Posted by: wolverinewildman
better learn to have your facts straight before you talk
kawasaki mojave's always had reverse always.
Posted by: wolverinewildman
buy a mojave its your best bet, if you want to be rebuilding top ends on a 2 stoke
buy a blaster, its not a bad cheap quad but every one i know is fixing things within
a year or so, admit it blaster owners tell me i'm wrong. put a pipe and jets in a mojave
and drop a 11tooth counter spocket in it and look at the power gain 300ex wont
touch it. pipe supertrap ids
k&n air cleaner
jet kit
11 tooth counter sprocket
Posted by: proraptor
Id go with the blaster or 300ex...The blaster with a pipe will be pretty fast compared to the others
Posted by: sash
blaster r teh fastest best for modds HONDAS SUCK
Posted by: Fastblasterboy
The blaster is by far farster than any of those quads ( 300ex, mojave, etc)
Posted by: KingRacing
The 300ex Owns all of them... Whoever said the mojave burns the 300ex needs to do Research before they start typing. The Blaster is also a decient quad. But the 300ex is better Relieing because its a honda. And it also has great handling. iv never had ANY problems with my 300ex.
Posted by: yamaharaptor350
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Originally posted by: weber
i think that a blaster is the best for the money.
i agree^^^
Posted by: PURE510
go with a 300 ex they have to be the best
Posted by: nitsud
the 300ex is a drop in the bucket compared to the blaster. my stock 1997 is faster than the 300ex by far. i pass my step-dads z-400 with almost no problem plus you haveto do very little to maintain them go with a blaster
Posted by: nitsud
blaster is faster than the 300ex and mojave unless the mojave is faster than the z-400
Posted by: nitsud
my blaster is a 240 but other than that it's stock and it can pass the z-400 you should check how the blaster beats em all up
Posted by: nitsud
i'd to see you pass my blaster up. it will pass you like ur standin still even when i give you a headstart
Posted by: nitsud
well if you feel that way don't get on here ne more
Posted by: nitsud
Thank you, stupid idiots think that balsters are slowi keep up with my freinds that have the 400ex and the z-400
Posted by: nitsud
1; it is very easy to maintain 2; blasters will kick mojaves @$$ and 3; blasters alll the way
Posted by: nitsud
what is jibberish? here i'll spell it out for you B-L-A-S-T-E-R-S A-R-E B-E-T-T-E-R T-H-A-N T-H-E 4-0-0-E-X A-N-D T-H-E Z-4-0-0 A-ND E-V-E-R-T-H-I-N-G E-L-S-E
Posted by: nitsud
well until you have raced against me don't say anything about blasters bein slower than the mojave and 300ex. i pass those up. the only thing wrong with the blaster is the clutch and no i am not tryin to make you mad. i'm just telling the truth and i'm srry you feel that way
Posted by: ACFreerider
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Originally posted by: nitsud
the 300ex is a drop in the bucket compared to the blaster. my stock 1997 is faster than the 300ex by far. i pass my step-dads z-400 with almost no problem plus you haveto do very little to maintain them go with a blaster
Right you do. Your so full of shoit i dont even know where to start. First its a stock blaster, then its a 240 but stock besides that. Even if it was a 240 it still wouldnt beat a z400 let alone smoke one. And another thing why would you get a 240 bore kit for your blaster and have it stock besides that? Real smartas..... I mean smart guy here
Posted by: thorrider250
fastest is probably the mojave, but you can get a lot of cheap aftermarket performance for the blaster which will make it very fast. it also depends on where you ride because some places dont let you ride two strokes during certain times of the year (apllies in cali). id suggest the blaster because they are cheap, reliable, and you can easily make em fast.
Posted by: albung
i can beat all 3 with my 230 s
Posted by: MatTz250
the z250 i have one and it is really good on the trails no wories of a cluck and does adjust well with a pipe and jet and k&n air filter
Posted by: Blasts4bucks
Look my friend has a mojave wit the airbox lid off and baffle out of his exhaust i have a blaster it didnt have any mods back then and i blew him out of the water. I dun kno wha ur smokin
Posted by: Blasts4bucks
and about the trails my blaster hasnt stalled 1ce out of the 35 hrs i rode it!
Posted by: Blasts4bucks
Ct huh me 2..... gotta ride sometime
Posted by: Blasts4bucks
you favored the 300ex bcause u own one
Posted by: JRThibber
go with the 300 ex. its the best all around bike, nice and light, and is very reliable
Posted by: bbchevelle
hey heres my 2cents worth we have a pair of mojaves we have a cousin with a 300ex and both of our mojave will wlk all over it all day in the dunes from drag racing ( all have paddle tires ) to racing up the steepest hills and we have had no problems at all with them so just my 2 cents worth
Posted by: steve07228
Well, i prefer the z250 because of its neat looks, the 300ex is way faster than the blaster and i have beatin many 300ex's with my mom majove but my z250 is still the best, and faster with mud lite tires on it
Posted by: Fulltiltrider
Originally posted by: Vunit
first off the mojave will not get smoked by a 300ex...and will stay with a blaster as well...blasters suck on the track cuz of there suspension..that should be the first thing you get on a blaster...most even here are the mojave and the 300ex...the 300ex is by far the best on the trails along with the mojave...the mojave is best on the track cuz it has the best suspension out of all the quads here and have a good amount of power for a 250.....blasters are great beginners quads and great machines to start riding on...i would never say that a blaster is most even with a 300ex cuz that not right at all..REAL MOTORS HAVE VALVES...like i said best all around quads are the 300ex and mojave...the z250 is a great beginners quad as well and perfect for slow trail rding...ive ridden all quads too and have owned most of them in the pass...but no way is the mojave last like you said..
best all around
300ex/mojave
z250/blaster....thats more like it now...
I know this is an old thread, someone else brought it back to life and I had to read this page and see the above quote....REAL MOTORS HAVE VALVES.... WTFE dude you have no clue.
I like 4 strokes some make good trail machines and some make good racers, My 250r makes both. more top end speed than the rappys and predetors, more acceleration than the 450's, and as long as you know how to set them up and work a clutch its all controlable power. 2 STROKES FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Fulltiltrider
Wow I cant belive someone agrees with me on this one. I thought I was going to get blasted for saying that, but i guess there still are some old school belivers out there Here's one for you NL Warrior
Posted by: Fulltiltrider
How much are you willing to spend? There are alot of 250r's on ebay that are highly modded going for as little as 3k.
Posted by: Fulltiltrider
I think I saw your thread about the blaster, your from Canada right. MAn, keep your eyes open for a cheap 250r,you WILL find one. These things are a dime a dozen now that they outlawed them in racing.(because the 4 pokes cant beat em)img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
Posted by: Fulltiltrider
I dont care what anyone says about 2 strokes...oh they eat plugs, blah blah blah.... my 250 gets one plug a year. And the only reason I change it is its a new season. If you know what you are doing a 2 stroke is just as reliable as any 4 stroke, and in the case of the 450's, better. The 450's have so much fuel blow past the rings that you have to change the oil all the time. Most people dont. Then they end up locking it up because their oil ends up like 0w10
Posted by: Fulltiltrider
The only real problem with a blaster is the oil injection system. As for "if you are new to quads get a 4 stroke". What do you have to do to a 2 stroke that is all that hard... hmm let me see... CHANGE THE OIL IN THE TRANNY. Thats it. How many people know how to adjust valves, how many people can put a cam in and get the timing right. Any half brain twit can take a jug off a 2 stroke. Order a piston for a $100. Take the jug and piston to the local machine shop. Have it bored and honed for $45. Take it home and slap it together. Presto chango brand new again for for 2 more yrs. I started out working on 2 strokes when i was 14. Trial and error. If I would have had a 4 stroke first I probably would never have gotten into working on engines. Too expensive for trial and error.
btw go mod for mod with a blaster vs. a 300ex or mojave and see what wins. ...............ITS NOT FAST UNLESS THERE'S OIL IN THE GAS............
Posted by: Fulltiltrider
21yrs and Ive never blown a head gasket
Posted by: Fulltiltrider
if you were a kid and didnt have much money, what would you want to have to work on? Plus kids are usually very bad with maintaining thier machines. With that said, what would you rather fix, a top end of a two stroke or, a four stroke that didnt have its valves adjusted and gernaded everything. Or how about the kid that didnt know that 400ex's always burn a little oil thus locking it up with no oil in it. There is a reason yamaha sold the blaster as long as they did.And if it weren't for all the damn tree huggers it would still and always be sold
Posted by: Fulltiltrider
hell I just met a 38yr old guy about a week ago that smoked his 400ex because he ran it out of oil. Had less then half a quart in it. He was stuck in the mud, givin it hell trying to get out. It locked right up! He wants me to have a look at it. I told him to come back when he has about 800 to get me to start it.LOL
Posted by: Fulltiltrider
Guess some people never grow up
Posted by: Fulltiltrider
My 1986 250r. only owner with title. CRaptor 660, a 500 vinson(destroyed),LT 500r (sold but not forgoten)and a 2004 kodiak to plow my driveway
Posted by: Fulltiltrider
That craptor is far from reliable. As for the blasters, I know alot of people with them and dont have any major problems.You say your friends quad blew 2 head gaskets, and I bet that was the only time the head was ever off the machine. Probably a hundred hours on the machine and still on the same piston. The only real reason to ever blow head gaskets is, someone doesnt know how to use a torque wrench, or they torque it the first time and never check them again.
Posted by: aaaaaaa
300ex because it is low maintenance and go trail quad and will probably kill most of the quads 300's out there. it is so low maintenance that all you have to do is check the air filter, carborater, and change the oil once in a while.
correct me if i spell carborater wrong. an just can't spell that word.
Posted by: Mojaveride33456
Yea um no my friend has a blaster 98 with a fmf fatty gold seriouss .50 bored and i smoke him
Posted by: hondarules666
of the 4 quads the 300EX is the fastest but it is not the cheapest i belive that kawi does not sell the mojave anymore so you would have to but it used, the blastes is the most customisable of the quads but is 2nd fastest only to the 300ex.(dirt wheeles actually had a shootout with these quads but included the 250EX the blaster was yet second again only to the 300EX but if it was not in the competition the blaster would have won) but i would go with the blaster because its cheaper faster than the mojave and lightest of all of them(320lbs.) and is a good quad over all but if your a tall person then go with the 300ex but the blaster is worth the money only a few things with the blaster though are sometimes things go wrong with it and also last year i think was the last year that companies could make 2-strokes so again with the used things
Posted by: hondarules666
and do you feel like spending $9 a quart on oil every time you need more. 2-storkes are known for blowing head gaskets 4-strokes unless your racing then you need to adjust your valves and put in a cam
Posted by: hondarules666
Originally posted by: Fulltiltrider
21yrs and Ive never blown a head gasket
well what kinds of quads did you ride in these 21yrs?
Posted by: hondarules666
Originally posted by: Fulltiltrider
My 1986 250r. only owner with title. CRaptor 660, a 500 vinson(destroyed),LT 500r (sold but not forgoten)and a 2004 kodiak to plow my driveway
yea see thats why you havent blown a head gasket cuz youve owned all reliable quads. my friend has a blaster and has blown 2 gaskets already and has oly had it for like 2-3 years
Posted by: saggy69
Hey KVRMUBBRUNNER,
I have the a mojave and I just got a DG pipe what jets did you rejet with?
Thanks,
Blake
Posted by: 440exRulz
I would say ether the 300ex or the blaster. Ive had a blaster and it was good, lots of parts for it and the speed is great. But if you what something more reliable and also has some good speed and stuff go with a 300exm as the blasters arnt that reliable.
Posted by: bonndoondatrails
ok i own a 2001 kaw. mojave my two other friends have a blaster and a 300ex. the blaster has a silencer and thats it the 300 ex is stock and my mojave has a white bros pipe. every time we race blaster wins and beats me by a length. So how is kaw. top speed better than the blaster?
Posted by: Gord420
yamaha blaster is a 200 2 stroke so its power output is equivelent to a 400 4 stroke because the piston only has 2 strokes to complete before it fires. Its not much of a comparison.
I thought someone on here would of been smart and already reminded everyone that a 2 stroke puts out twice as much power per cc than 4 strokes and your comparing a 200 2 stroke to 300 4 strokes and 250 4 strokes ?? argument finished
Posted by: jeremyjms06
out of the ones you listed i would have to go with the 300ex but if i was you i would look at the Raptor 250. those things are straight bad!!!! awsome qauds!!!!
Posted by: hondarocks61
fyi to you all, the mojave has more horse power than the 300ex and the blaster, dirt wheels magazine did a comparasin between the blaster and mojave and said that the kawi was just as fast as well as having more torque, the 300 is a good bike, but its an AIR cooled TWO valve quad... i dont even consider it a race quad anymore.
Posted by: hondarocks61
Originally posted by: albung
i can beat all 3 with my 230 s
sure.....
