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Posted by: DeuceRooster

Don't know the top speed there but the DS650 will be fastest stock vs stock.

Posted by: 1BigDSRider

Ds top speed stock around 75mph.
Raptor 74mph
Predator 73mph
V-force73mph
Kfx and Z400 70mph

This is what dirt wheels said. Not sure I would believe everything they say. They are brand loyal.

Posted by: 1BigDSRider

I know the Ds numbers where pretty accurate at 75mph. One of my friends is a Sheriff and his radar gun said 74 with me on it, with a stock DS. I go 300+. With the pipe and jetting mph increased to 78.

Posted by: PUSHINTHELIMIT

Ya the DS650 definatly has them all on top end. Even at that, the rev limiter on it is set so low that you just bounce of it at 75MPH. Plus being geared really low you hit the limiter VERY fast. If you get a different rev box and/or gear up a tooth you can have some scary top end speed. I geared my DS650 up a tooth and I passed a truck that was supposedly going 90MPH but I know truck speedo's arn't always accurate. But the guy in the truck was blowed away by the top end of my DS. But I know you can get 80+MPH by gearing up a tooth. I kinda like it geared stock for summer for the extra torque though. But again, the rev limiter is a pain in the a$$ and I sure hope I get a different rev box soon.....

Posted by: snowbuster

your parents really should leave the pot out of your reach. i dont know how old u are but u sound like a little kid on dope.

Posted by: snowbuster

im talking about those wack speeds there bud. 83 my as. try somewhere in the 70's

Posted by: snowbuster

it hought u said every stock quad does different speeds or something like that with liek a rappy that does 78 and one that does 83, and your saying a z cant outrun a rappy and yours can smoke a ds, but if that first statement is true non else is true. theres gotta be one z that can out run a rappy and one ds that can out run a ds if they all run different,u dipstick!

Posted by: snowbuster

doesnt matter who was talking, your the donkey in this convversation

Posted by: snowbuster

seriously kid, ask your perents to keep the pot on top of the kitchen counter.

Posted by: cop

My 04' baja X went 77.1 mph totally stock maxed out and pinging the rev limiter in 5th. With the edition of a +1 front sprocket, RWR clutch springs, K&N with stock jetting I am hitting 81.9 mph in the same distance (1/4 mile) but I still hit the rev limiter about 100ft from the end. I have pulled every Raptor modded or stock that i have raced. I have never raced a bored or stroked Raptor so I imagine the results would be a bit different if I had. I have however raced many, many piped, jetted and airboxed modded raptors and have pulled everyone by the end of 4th gear at the latest. I shift into 5th and start to pull hard on them. One of my friends did hit 80mph on his piped rappy. His machine ran the best out of all of the piped raptors. He has a first generation Curtis Sparks pipe on his.

Posted by: cop

First of all untouchables, I don't have a buddy or know somebody's cousin who has a radar. I have access to a laser gun and stalker radar because I am what my forum name says. I also use my Garmin GPS as another reference. I have clocked many many quads, including many Raptors. The fastest piped Raptor I have EVER come accross was 80mph. NO stock rappy ever went eighty mph unless it was going down hill at a steep angle with the wind behind it. Face it, a stock Raptor does mid 70's stock period. To get five mph more takes some mods to do.

Posted by: cop

I find this very funny because you take fact (top speed within +/- 1mph) and somebody throws their delusional thinking into the mix and 1mph can become 10 mph. Funny, isn't it? As for untouchables, I believe that he means well but if his speed reading skills are as poor as his spelling and english skills that would explain his whole mix up with reality.

Posted by: cop

Lets NOT talk about people's families, that just isn't cool!!!! Untouchables, I never claimed to be able to beat your stroker, but I could whip your buddies AZZ on his stock Rappy, If indeed it is stock.

Posted by: balzy

i agree that the raptor and 450 are both mean machines but there is no way any one of them ran close to 80mph stock
only on a trailer behined a truck. weed kills

Posted by: balzy

it seems that your the only one that can find truth in anything you say, so with that take your 99 mph raptor (yea right) and
your 98 mph 450 and have a nice day. but please stop insulting the intelligence of everyone else on this forum, were not all that country!

Posted by: balzy

it take your much bigger bike to beat my little 400, I never stated that my bike was running 80 mph, i just said that there is a very slim chance a stock raptor or 450 will run that either! btw if your ever in So. Fla. bring your bike!

Posted by: YamahaRiderOnly

My Stock Raptor goes 75 and My Buddys Stock Banshee goes 77. The Ds650, Raptor, Banshee, Predator are all about the Same in Top Speed Stock. You can get 2 Raptors and 1 will be faster then the other. Both same weight and everything and 1will always pull away. Every Quad runs Different.

Posted by: gnd111

1) DS650
2) Raptor
3) KFX700
4) YFZ450
5) Z400/KFX400/Predator /Banshee

Posted by: TrailRider

I know this is about top speed, but my dad's friend can consisently beat my uncle's KFX700 on his Z in a drag race. Both are stock and it was in sand.

Posted by: trailrider500

I think the DS-650 is the fastest out of those quads i might be wrong tho...

1.DS-650
2.Raptor
3.the z and kfx

Posted by: thomez

You forgot my Cannondale! Just kidding, but its faster than those listed

Posted by: thomez

I go 80+

Posted by: fast440

I agree the DS will probably be fastest stock. Also, the weight difference doesn't make much of a difference on top end.

Posted by: Hozed

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Originally posted by: gnd111
1) DS6502) Raptor3) KFX7004) YFZ4505) Z400/KFX400/Predator /Banshee


whats the top end on a kfx700? as far as predator being behind the 450.. it isnt the pred is about 1-2 MPH faster.

Posted by: Hozed

ya they are but that is what ive heard the most for all of those quads...
except the z.. ive heard and seen mostly 68 mph.

Posted by: crazypainter

Yo 2untouchables WAKE UP you must be dreaming cause a stock rappy wont outrun a DS. I speak from experience, and no its not brand bias because I love raptors. I almost bought one but Igot too good a deal on the bom. So get real and get a grip on reality.

Posted by: TexasPsycho

check out the top speed thread in this forum. someone posted the top speeds of several atvs which is pretty acurate.

Posted by: rotaxds

v force is auto there good for consistancy

Posted by: HighOutput4x4

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My friend has a Scramber and it goes 70 stock


A stock scram will not do 70....only 65 and it takes it awhile to get to that. I own one. AND THERE'S NO WAY A STOCK RAPTOR WILL DO 83. Either you have been lied to or you havent realized that car speedometers are not accurate.

Posted by: HeadRush

How Musch faster???

What is the top speed difference in the Z400/KFX400 vs. the DS650 and Raptor? Will the 400 be that much slower or does the 375 weight make up a lot of the difference in the cc's?

Thanks,
Cory

Posted by: TellicoGrizz660

The YFZ beats them all in 100 yards! LOL!

Posted by: raptor999

balzy, crazy painter, and snow buster i guarantee my raptor and yfz could beat your z400 when they are in 4th gear but it would really matter because you wouldn't catch me so just admit it you know my quads are faster than the three of yours period

Posted by: raptor999

im talking about balzy's z400

Posted by: 2untouchables690

when if first got my raptor it did 83 stock and when i got the yfz it did 82 but now that i have all the mods they go much faster

Posted by: 2untouchables690

cop there is no way your friend has a sparks pipe and his quad only does 80 because my raptor did 83 stock and when i added the curtis sparks pipe before i got the 690 kit i was doing around 90 my yfz even goes faster than that ds when it was stock my yfz did 82 stock and it was quicker than my raptor

Posted by: 2untouchables690

well you sound like a retard on crack just because you dont like raptors or yfz's because they are better than any quad you have or will ever have you dont have to act like a tough guy im just stating facts if you dont like it you dont have to look at them ok tough guy

Posted by: 2untouchables690

alright do you guys know that every raptor doesnt go the same speed because i know 2 other people with stock raptors one does 78 and the other does 81 and they are bone stock so how is that not possible just because they are faster than your quad and you have a biased opinion because you think you have the fastest quad im not trying to start an arguement but if you dont believe its not my problem we have a road thats straight for about 3 miles and me and a car went down that road and when i topped out the cars spedometer said 83 and dont even try to make up some bs about spedometers aren't acurate or w/e else you want to say and i dont really care how fast my quad went stock because i know i could smoke a ds when my raptor was stock and i can beat a ds by even more now with both of my quads and im not one of those people who try and say there quads are the fastest quads ever because they are not but i deffinately know a stock raptor is faster than a stock ds and that my quads would beat yours so im not too worried what you think

Posted by: 2untouchables690

well a stock raptor goes faster than a stock z so that means if i was no where close to 80 stock which i was at 83 that means you are no where close to 70 stock on your z and basically balzy your saying the raptor and yfz two of the fastest stock quads besides the quadzilla and gas gas dont go no where near 80 then you are saying every stock quad doesnt even come close to 70 basically

Posted by: 2untouchables690

every other stock quad i mean

Posted by: 2untouchables690

ohh my bad i forget the dale yea they do over 80 too

Posted by: 2untouchables690

well i think im about done with this topic because im not going to get anywhere with all these people who hate raptors just because they know they are faster than there quad but they try to act tough to look cool or something then they get other biased people behind them just look at it this way i know i dont have the best quads and never will but i know my yfz would take any ds in the woods and on the track and my raptor would take any ds in the dunes on hillclimbs and in the woods a stock yfz would take a stock ds off the line easily because it has the best power to weight ratio of any quad and they are quicker than the ds so they would get through the gears quicker and they would win because even if the ds was faster than a yfz which its not it would just be playing catch up the whole time and it would probably take 5 miles to catch it but its not faster so i dont really care what anybody with a ds says that think they are faster than a yfz and raptor and you probably think your quad is faster than a cannondale, gas gas, quadzilla, shee and predator too dont ya?

Posted by: 2untouchables690

well how about this who cares how fast the stock speeds are because my quads arent stock and i would smoke you with either of them so who cares

Posted by: 2untouchables690

hey raptor999 i bet my quad could beat your quads haha

Posted by: 2untouchables690

and balzy what were you talking about???? that wasnt even me talking it was somebody else with a stock yfz and and a raptor

Posted by: 2untouchables690

well cop whenever you want to race just tell me and ill race you with my quads and ill bring my friend that has a stock raptor and you can race him too and we will see how fast a raptor goes and what does reading spelling and english skills have to do with anything does this look like school to you? Do you want me to type like I am in english class? Use all my punctuation and grammar skills to talk on an atv forum to people who think a ds650 is the best sport quad out. I mean, you think a 482 lb. 650cc quad can keep up with a 398 lb. 660cc quad. You must be smoking the crack that you get from police busts or something.

Posted by: 2untouchables690

well you must be the one with the pot, because you can't even spell parents and another thing my parents died you f*ucking retard

Posted by: Z400bestquadever

My friend has a Scramber and it goes 70 stock and he raced my Z and my Z is stock and it smokes his Scrambler. I raced a Raptor and he beat me by three quad lengths. And I got stopped by a cop and he clocked me goin 74 whats with that. And mine is stock. Oh yah I don't advise getting stopped going fast in the middle of a road not good thing to be caught doing. And my Z also beats a EX and how fast does a EX go?