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Posted by: AlkyBurninX
I am in SE MO. Not many big deer here. If you get a 6 pointer, you're doing great. There is a HUGE (for this area) buck that has been seen in my field behind my house. He just has the right side antlers and there is 4 points on that one side. I saw him Sunday, but by the time I found him in the scope on my .308 (bull barrelled tactical), someone shot in the next field and he took off running. My favorite rifle I own is a Browning A-bolt Medallion with the BOSS in .30-06 with a Swiss scope. I love the feel of this rifle. Its sighted for 250yds with 165gr Nosler Partitions. My Weather Mark-V in .300 Weatherby magnum is sighted for 400 for those longer shots. Those new short mags are awesome, but when I pull a .300 weatherby shell out of your pocket and sit it down next to any SM or WSM, it puts a smile on my face.
Anyone thinking of a BDL/ADL needs to shoot an A-bolt. I promise you won't regret it. So much more comfortable than a Remington.
extremerider, I wouldn't want anything less than a 150gr, and I wouldn't shoot that. 165's would be the smallest I would use. 180's would be the best. 150's would have to be barrel burners. Couple hundred shots and you won't have any riflings left.
I am going to buy 2 new guns this winter. Smith & Wesson 500 magnum with 10" barrel, and a CZ Varmit bull barreled 204ruger. I know a guy dropping prarie dogs at 600+yds with the new 204.
Posted by: AlkyBurninX
I like the 300, but I am not that consistant with it. The BOSS system on the Browning really reduces recoil. The .30-06 compressed loads I am shooting don't kick that hard. You can almost continue looking through the scope after the shot. The 300 weatherby is a different story. That thing kicks like a mule. My first shot is dead on, but I start anticipating after that and I start pulling. It kicks worse than my 8mm Yugo mausers. The .308 tactical is dead-on everytime. With the bull barrel, the kick feels like my 17HMR. The 300 would have been plenty for elk, but just the fact that you can say you have a .338 is cool.
I would recommend the .223 or .243 WSM for your son. They would make a good deer rifle and an excellent varmit rifle. .270's have never impressed me.
Posted by: AlkyBurninX
Yeah, I forgot to mention how loud the BOSS is. I can't believe Browning stopped making the BOSS system. Like you said, you can tune it to the load. I shrunk my 200yd groups by over an 1" by tuning the length of the BOSS.
Posted by: AlkyBurninX
45-70 Government was a good load in its day. It can't compete with the new magnum calibers of today though. The casing design of modern cartriges is far superior to the straight hull of the 45-70. Not to mention the fact that you can play with the burn speed of new powders for new cartridges. The 45-70 is limited to the powders that you can load.
Posted by: AlkyBurninX
I have never shot an Encore. I would think they would be hard to control with the high powered loads. That much power through a handgun. Are they a handful?
Posted by: AlkyBurninX
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Originally posted by: Hybrid4x4
I have the rifle version of the encore and its pretty easy to handle even in the .300 short mag caliber. The way the grip is designed on the stock you can pull it tight to your shoulder and it balances real nice.
My dad has a .30-.30 in a Thompson Contender (pistol) and he has used that for a number of years. He seems to do real well with it and likes it alot. I have never heard him complain about that gun either.
I always the the Contender and Encore mixed up. The contender is what I was thinking about.
Anyone do muzzleloading? Our rifle season ended yesterday and muzzleloader starts saturday. That is usually when I fill my tag. I have a 50 caliber CVA stainless with scope, a .45 CVA with scope, 2 .50 CVA hawkens (one is flintlock), a .54 and a .58.
Posted by: Starky
I hunt with a Browning A-Bolt stainless stalker in .300 Wn. Mag. It has the BOSS as well. The BOSS reduces the recoil to almost nothing, but the the sound level is unbelieviable. I think that is why I can't hear out of my left ear any more. I shoot 150 grain Federals and can shoot less than 1 inch groups at 100 yards all day. That is the great thing about the BOSS, you can tune your barrel to the round.
My biggest deer is a 4x4 whitetail in full velvet and scored 125 1/8. I shot it with the bow and it will be in the next record book. It's already in the N. Dakota rcord book.
I really like the .300 WM, it's a good prairy gun and actually does less damage to the deer than my wifes 30.06.
Posted by: ShadyRascal
300 Ultra mag, well you must be thinking about hunting the badlands and shooting 500 yards! I shoot a BDL 270 with a 700 classic stock. Biggest trophy so far a raghorn bull elk and it almost killed me and my buddy getting it off the mountain. Shot a muley a couple weeks ago, 16" spread not real big but okay for me. Oh, and a couple whitetail does I popped on a dead run for extra meat. Yummy corn fed!
Posted by: Hybrid4x4
I just got back from deer hunting on opening weekend here in Wisconsin (Jackson County). I didn't see any deer on Saturday at all, but today was another story. It was all nice and frosty this morning so it was crunchy in the swampland areas we hunt so we could everything moving. About 1030 this morning I hear grunt, grunt , splash, splash and am like "Ok here we go" and I am looking for deer. I go nuts for about a minute looking around the area and then I see a doe coming in, along with 4 other deer. The forth deer is a nice buck. I wait for an opening and take my shot (50 yards), bang... right behind the shoulder. The deer hunches up and runs to the right about 20 yards and plows into a pine tree an disappears.
I go out and look for blood and hit the blood trail and follow it to the pine tree the hit and 10 feet away it is laying. Its a dandy 9 pointer with a 18 inch spread that weights 200 pounds. This was my first nice buck I have shot in 13 years of hunting and he is now at the taxidermist getting mounted. Woo hoo.
I cannot say anything bad about my rifle I am using because I just love it. When I graduated college my gift from my parents was a Thompson Center Encore in a .308 caliber, but my dad is buddies with a local gunsmith so he had it rechambered at .300 short mag. I am using a 180 nosler partition load and it just pounds the deer with it.
I also used this gun to shoot a nice 200 pound black bear (waited 6 years to draw a tag) this fall at 40 yards and the bear took 10 steps and tipped right over when I was shooting the same load.
I am more then impressed with the .300 short mag caliber and would recommend it to anyone. I used some different loads ranging 130-180 grain loads and the 180 seems the most consistent of the bunch and really does a number on anything it comes into contact with.
Posted by: Hybrid4x4
I have the rifle version of the encore and its pretty easy to handle even in the .300 short mag caliber. The way the grip is designed on the stock you can pull it tight to your shoulder and it balances real nice.
My dad has a .30-.30 in a Thompson Contender (pistol) and he has used that for a number of years. He seems to do real well with it and likes it alot. I have never heard him complain about that gun either.
Posted by: Yamaha660R
BR>
I just killed a pie bald button buck on Nov 6 with my bow....but I rifle hunt with a Remington 30.06 and a .270 both. I live in central WV, and my best buck is a 130" 8 pt.
Posted by: rxrider
My husband bought a 243 for himself last year, but I ended up hunting with it. I really like to shoot it. Doesn't hardly kick at all. He bought a Nikon scope for it. It is very clear. Haven't shot a deer with it, but have killed a couple of coyotes, and a few targets
Posted by: extremerider2811
what is your biggest trophy ever, what gun do you shoot? what state ( area please keep confidential if desired) i hunt in northern wisconsin, there are about 550,000 deer hunters in wisconsin about 1.2 million deer in wisconsin, and i shoot a 30.06 with scope, buddies shoot 270, 280, 12 gauge. My dream rifle is the Remington model 700 BDL, 300 remington Ultra Magnum. but it really does not matter to me what gun i shoot, you could hunt with a 22 long rifle, and kill a deer, it all has to do with hitting it in the right spot, but 30.06 works, way too many guns on Remington.com, i want a 300 ultra mag. caliber. 30.06 will do.
peace
Posted by: extremerider2811
does any one know the Max size for the 300 Rem. ultra Mag. grain wise, the highest i see is 200, but thats for safari,and other big game, what is the average grain used for deer hunting, i was just curious to see how high the 300 rem ultra mag. goes up in size, and 200 grain is the top one, on remintons site, the lowest i seen is 150 grain, and the 300 has pretty big bullets, weather it be short action or the normal size, but iwas jsut wondering if any of you knew?
peace
Posted by: extremerider2811
the biggest deer ever (supposidly) is 1000 points, i'm serious, in the magazine called wierd white tails, they got everything from 23 point does, to 5 legged deer, to albino bucks, to a 16 point buck that strangled it self in barbed wire.
cool stuff
Posted by: extremerider2811
have any of you hear of the 45-70, or what ever, its a lever action, pretty big gun, a guy hunts deer with it, that gun will automatically gut the deer for you, don't need something that strong, unless theres a tree in your way and have no choice but to take the 14 point buck thats behind a maple tree. ever hear the rumors of the buck of 1,000 points, and the 23 point Doe. and the three 17 point monster deer that were found in the massaschutes ocean area, and the 1000 point buck was found in ohio some where, pretty amazing.
peace
Posted by: aintnostoppinme1
anyone have a savage 30-06? 111f model? im gunna get one at the next gun show and just wanting to know somestuff about it.
Posted by: DC504
I don't hunt, but my friend does he just showed me a pic of a couple of 10 points him and his dad shot last weekend.
Posted by: motox26
I normally hunt with a Browning .270 or a standard mossberg 12 ga.
My best trophy I guess would be an 8 pt. white tail deer.
Posted by: Heywood
I shoot a rugar model 77 in .270 win.
it carries a fixed 6X Zeiss scope, and i load my own 130 gr. btsp's.
as far as trophies go, my biggest buck is a 10 point (120 class) whitetail.
but the shot im most proud of was a coyote on the run at 325 yds.
-heywood-
Posted by: Catterman
See my pictures for my moose and caribou, I haven't shot a monster buck yet, 9 pointer is the best so far. For the whitetail I use 12 gauge while in MN and Iowa (no rifles allowed) and .308 Browing BLR or .300 Win Mag Browning BAR while in Minnesota or North Dakota. I am going to be handing the .308 off to the wife, and I will get me a Browing 270 WSM in either a BAR or BLR. Not sure yet. There are so many good calibers and guns out there you can't go wrong.
Posted by: BigBeezy
I hunt upstate ny and on long island and shelter island (litle island off of long islan.. GREAT hunting) i use a marlin 30/30, mossberg 12 guage, bow= buckmaster g2xl and i havent got anything to brag about, my uncles friend shot a 17pointer last week
Posted by: kawa400
What with all these damn bb guns? Remington 338 Ultra mag here. If any of yall buy one you better get a break for it I haven't shot a monster buck yet but i have killed a couple nice ones.
Posted by: kawa400
How do you like your 300? I had one but sold it for my 338. I want to try and take some trips to Texas and hunt all kinds of animals. I want to try a elk hunt but i will probably never save up the money BR>
I also have a 308 that was my dad's but it just collects dust now. If any of you all know where there's a nice 270 for sell please pm me. I promised my son i would buy him something but a 300 might be a little to big and he sure in the hell can't shoot my 338.
Posted by: kawa400
I like my 338 but i have a break on it lol So i guess you can call me a pu$$y. I shot my buddy's 30-378 and it almost knocked me on my a$$ and i knew that the 338 kick would be close to the 30-378 so i had a break put on it.
I might get him a 243. I promised him i would get him something so he can go hunting with me. He's only 11 and he want's this Kimber 270 but a 243 will probably be enough for him.
Posted by: silverbullet2005
I don't hunt but came into work this morning to hear a funny story, another coworker went out hunting over the weekend and went out to his blind to find a dear laying down near the corn pile. he happened to have a hammer with him for some odd reason and snuck up on the deer and hit it over the head with the hammer. he got it and gutted it. what a strange way to get a deer huh.
Posted by: MrDumass
I've been deer hunting for the past 16 years. I started when I was 11. Up until recently I had never killed a real nice buck. I shoot a winchester model 70 synthetic, blued 7mm rem. mag with 150gr. ballistic silvertips. 3x9 leupold vx-2 scope. I hunt primarly in east central Missouri, but venture up to northern Missouri on occasion. The biggest deer I have shot is a 9point that I killed last weekend, has a 15 inch spread. So far my son (7 years old) started out with a great youth season taking a nice 8 point with a 16 inch spead.
Posted by: MrDumass
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Originally posted by: AlkyBurninX
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Originally posted by: Hybrid4x4
I have the rifle version of the encore and its pretty easy to handle even in the .300 short mag caliber. The way the grip is designed on the stock you can pull it tight to your shoulder and it balances real nice.
My dad has a .30-.30 in a Thompson Contender (pistol) and he has used that for a number of years. He seems to do real well with it and likes it alot. I have never heard him complain about that gun either.
I always the the Contender and Encore mixed up. The contender is what I was thinking about.
Anyone do muzzleloading? Our rifle season ended yesterday and muzzleloader starts saturday. That is usually when I fill my tag. I have a 50 caliber CVA stainless with scope, a .45 CVA with scope, 2 .50 CVA hawkens (one is flintlock), a .54 and a .58.
Hey AlkyburninX- I muzzleload hunt here in Missouri, and the season starts Friday. Just so ya know I looked it up on the Missouri Conservation Dept. website. I've already taken a buck so I will be after a doe with mine. I hunt in Crawford county mostly, but venture up to Macon county every year for archery. Goodluck
Posted by: MNWolverine01
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Originally For the whitetail I use 12 gauge while in MN and Iowa (no rifles allowed)
That is not entirely true. It is shotguns only in the southern part of Minnesota. Up here in the northern part you can use rifles.
I don't have a trophy worth bragging about yet. I use a Browning a-bolt .280
Ryan
Posted by: Gopher500
the gun i go out with depends upon my type of hunting......
if im watching the fields, i use the .243 as its a great distance shooter.....
if im in the woods, i use the 45-70, that way, ill hit the deer if its behind the 4in tree or not.
the 45-70 is still a decent gun today, as in the lever action marlin we have is a nice, light, compact gun. much easier to lug around than my .243........
