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Posted by: SandmanBlue
I though this was relevant to the topic...
Democrats think Americans are stupid. Here's why:
Government should oversee your retirement funds - you're too stupid to invest it wisely.
Government should provide your healthcare - you're too stupid to choose the right healthcare plan.
Government should impose restrictive regulations on industry - you're too stupid to figure out that a big truck pollutes more than an electric car.
Government should oversee your kids education - you're too stupid to educate your kids properly, or choose the best school.
Government should attempt to equalize personal income levels through taxation - your too stupid to realize that smart people get better jobs and get paid more.
Government should require businesses to mimic national racial percentages through "Equal Opportunity" - you're a stupid racist and must hire under-qualified minorities.
Government should take care of everyone through welfare - you're too stupid to get a job.
Government should maintain your personal lifestyle - you're too stupid to know that having unprotected sex creates children and passes diseases, so the government needs to make sure that those unwanted children are either slaughtered through abortion or are cared for with tax money, as well as make sure you don't die right away after contracting aids.
Government should pay for your stupidity - you're an idiot that bought a house in an area that suffers natural disasters, and your house got blown apart by a tornado and you don't have the money to pay for a new house or cigarettes, so the rest of us have to pay for your inadequate mental capacity.
Wonder if libs are smart - just go ask one this...
"Do you believe that liberals are smarter than conservatives?" After they say "yes", then ask, "If liberals are smarter than conservatives, then wouldn't it be a good idea to have an intelligence test prior to voting? You'd surely dominate the election, right?" At this point, they will realize that they cannot support such a requirement, because so many liberals/democrats are uneducated and wouldn't pass the test. They will probably come up with many reasons (excuses) why a test like that would not be fair. At this point, you can end it easily by stating, that "Liberals could never support an intelligence test prior to voting, because they would suffer the most at the polls. More democrats would not be able to pass the test, and liberals know it - as evidenced by the ballot "chad" fiasco in Florida, where it seems only democrats had a hard time understanding how to punch a hole in a piece of paper in the right location. Liberals are actually LESS intelligent than conservatives and have no basis to suggest that their political philosophies are BETTER than conservative philosophies. The mere fact that lesser intelligent people choose liberalism should be reason enough for an intelligent person to reject democrats at the polls." In actuality, liberalism is based on the idea that people are stupid (see above).
Posted by: garyc660R
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Originally posted by: DrDune
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Originally posted by: TwizzHere is where much of my extreme worry comes from dealing with the democratic party. The hard line extreme liberals have taken the lead roles as voice and party issue stance. The group Vakero mentioned is not the entire list of " radical extremist ", Vakero you forgot Suzan Pulaski . Here is the political difference between the republican view and the new lead democratic view.The republican view on federal park land is we realize that people are just as important as the wild life and we can responsibly share a portion of the land together. Get out and enjoy it. Out of the millions of acres out there a very small portion is being used for trail systems and off road use. There is minimal impact to the inviorment when properly maintained trail systems are in function. In my region" the largest and only of it kind, " federal park with orv/ atv trail systems comprise of around 1 % of the acrage in that park. I feel we need to do a little better than that at several more park locations per state.Now the democratic view on federal park land is quite different. Their views are pulled from the Serria Club and several hundered other enviromental extremists organizations that stipulate our wild life and the survival of it is a national treasure and therefore All efforts and actions warrent isolationizm as the best method to procure that.What that means is they not only want to take away all orv and atv trail systems but you are not ever going to get anymore. The next step would be to not allow anybody in the park at all including going for a hike or walk, because that would disturb wild life equally. The next step would be to put barb wire fencing arround all park land. That about sumes up the polictical view that pertains dirrectly to ORV and ATV trail system use to the public. The republicans say yes room to use and democats say no more use.The democates want low level acheivers and a dumbed down environment to nurture to minds of the young so they will be easy to lead around and controll. So they can stay in power by taking away the freedoms of the peoples while telling you its good for you.The republicans want the brightest young who will be the future of america and continue its economic strenth in the world and continue its fight for freedom. Here is a good issue that republicans are fighting against which could apply to you. The democratics have managed to push their local legisation to annex any property they want. Well annexation is not new and has always been there when they might need to remove a home or two to widen a road if it is the last resort to provide pubic service to the masses. The democatics have once again extremely twisted that power to a new level never before thought. Now the have re-written the legislation in some areas to be fully able to annex any and all land however they want to take over large comunities. Then they give the home owner what ever the "developers tells them" is fair price and re-selles the land to big developers to do what they want like build a mall or a gated private water front resort. The democrates have figured out that they can raise the tax revenue by turning houses and its property into small sq ft condos and townhouses. Take away a working families house to give it to the rich mans golf resort or developers choice pick for cheaply taken land where they want. That is the future of the democratic party so have you been a victom of the domcrats latey? You had better check your front door for a large orange poster.Aaron
My goodness what a steaming pile of acrp! How about this for you Aaron. How about restructuring the US infastructure so as to support our mobility thru other means other than the buring of fossil fules? Why wont we do that? because that would be hard! a monumental undertaking! It would mean fat America would have to give up the easy route,(you know gas the car and go) and put in a hard days work, say for the next 20 years. It would mean jobs for Americans here at home. There have been studies on how to accomplish this, you know building refineries that produce hydrogen. Trillions of dollars! they say. OK so what are they waiting for?a bigger terrorist attack? 10,000 US soldier casualties? what's the hold up? Oh yeah its easier to keep puting money into the oil companies pockets (you know those pesky arabs, aren't they just the greatest people? ) It's easier for the Bush administration to keep making money for the companies they CEO'd. If your only urgument is that you hate to lose? then do a little research get educated and for god's sake stop taking the easy way out! -DrDune PS I ment to post Twizz second post must be all that pot I smoked ... I needed it to get thru the intellectual throuncing given by the one who can't spell. hr>
So instead of responding to the post you pose another question / topic? Come back with a legit response to Twizz's post and we will move on to your next question / topic....OK? Thanks
Posted by: garyc660R
I wonder.Oh I hear someone is giving money away. Can I get some too? I found this great new mechanic that's going to make the 450 fly.
I assumed you had a money tree in the back yard?
Posted by: Specta
I am sure the liberals will say they would have done it differently so they could have captured him sooner.
Posted by: 1BigDSRider
Oh lord, thats all we need is another idiot from Arkansas in the White House. Thats not saying everyone from Arkansas is an idiot. I will never vote for her.
They cant attack him anymore. Hes been one of the best Presidents in along time, expecially because of all hes had to deal with. Terrorism, bad economy, the war, and much more.
Posted by: maddog56
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Originally posted by: MrDumass
Politics is a bunch of hub-bub! All a waste of time, breath, and life. Nothing is going to drasticly change, until drastic measures are takin! Rise up and take back the power that belongs to us, the people!
Whether you're joking or not, I would tend to agree with this statement. The way I see many Republicans acting on this site is embarassing and humiliating to anyone who shares any similar ideas. And Dems retort with similarly idiotic posts, making anyone who's vested in the conversation dumber for the experience.
Posted by: maddog56
Vakero, you posted in an old thread started by someone else. I didnt follow you anywhere, believe it or not I read posts from more than one person. Frankly I could care less what reason you felt you had for posting the last topic in the "performance mods and project quads" section, nor do I give a rat's butt why you brought another thread back from the dead. Since you feel I have a passion for stalking you, perhaps you can explain why you feel the need and desire to search for two year old political threads just so you can stir the pot. Oh that's right, I forgot; if someone doesnt understand you than they're simply too stupid to participate in the discussion. I have posted in two threads that you have, and this thread I didnt even direct anything towards you personally.
Now I remember why I removed the "other atv topics" section from my forum page. Looks like it's time to do it again.
Posted by: maddog56
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Originally posted by: Twizz
Maddog56 well I'm waiting on an answer!
Why did you remove that post because I want to see it? I am a free thinker.
The first step COMUNISM is oppression. Would you agree? Then let me decide please.
If you dont care about politics than so be it, no matter what your persuasion or how you approach it.
If you think politics are not important than you are missing the whole concept of what it means to be an American.
I want to see that post.
Aaron
What in the world were you talking about?
Glad to see the banter continues while I'm not around, and that you're no closer to unity or consensus than you were a month ago.
Anyone who will blindly stand by one political party or another without any admission or acknowledgement of fault or that agrees on every single issue on the table with the party masses has completely lost any individuality and capability of intelligent and analytical thought and discussion.
Edit: Neither party is always going to be right and what you dont like isnt always the other guy's fault regardless of which side of the fence you're on. Most of the time the two sides don't even know what they're really fighting for.
Posted by: lostone1413
What you think the liberal Democrats are thinking now?? So much for one of their campaign issues. Seen Leiberman (?) on TV he was saying it is a great day for America. Want to bet when he heard it he didn't say OH S**T!!!!!!! Now aren't you glad with 911 and what is going on in the world we don't have a da*n liberal in office like Gore or any of the nit wits Democrats that are running in the primary?? I know I am
Posted by: lostone1413
Still believe and of the Democrats running for office would have still rather seen him caught after the election. Their main thing thay want is to get is elected This here put the odds way more in Bushes favor for getting elected again That none of the Democrates like even Liberman. Remember when they run for office getting elected is by far the most important thing for them right and wrong takes a back seat
Posted by: reconranger
I think the Dems know Bush will easily win 4 more years. They are bideing their time, then they will try to give us Hillary!
Posted by: LTZ
I have no idea what thread was removed or why but I will give my opinion on this one. For one it has nothing to do with ATV's so if one of us feels like removing it we will. Second, if it was anything like the way this one is headed I can understand why it was removed. Politics is a very controversial topic and almost always ends up in name calling and heated exchanges that really have no place in the forums. If it stays civil we leave it, if not it gets removed. Simple as that. If you feel that is bigotry, great and good for you. If need be you can refer to the FAQ page, specifically 1.1- #7 and 1.3.
Posted by: LTZ
I don't see any bias stated by another mod. I see a question that appears in jest maybe.?
maddog56 isn't a mod if you are referring to his posts or him removing a previous thread.
Posted by: 440EX026
One down 356 to go BR>
So they got Saddam (pronounced like father Bush used to) and that seriously a good thing. But now who do we have to hate and blame all the problems of the world?
Sorry to say this but I remember watching something on a CNN type show that we would be in Iraq again and this was aired b4 9/11. It seemed that without Saddam to be the crazy tyrant bad guy we would have been in Libya.
So which of the many hundreds of non democratic countries is next???
I guess it will be the one with the most unlikeable leader, but your choice is as good as any.
If there are any members overseas go to the phone and dial 911 and see if the US will police all your problems and let us know the response time
Oh well just some less discussed thoughts but I am glad its happened since it should help our men and women in the area to finish their duties both faster and safer.
Posted by: 440EX026
I hope I dont get into any BS here since its looking to be a little heated, but I wanted to make a point about discussing liberals, and why it really is appropiate for an ATV forum.
First just to be clear I didnt see the other thread, have no idea what happened in it, and this is the first I have heard of it. So my comments are just on this thread etc.
If we want to continue to enjoy our sport, and have legal places to ride, and not have the situation like we have here in NJ all over the country where your hunted like a criminal and have a good chance of being injured (or your chlidren) just because the state has made so many back door deals to their political contributors on how what little remaining open land will be used, and now see's us as little more than a nuiance and source of income (the fines are insane here)then we had better be educating ourselves about the political system, and just how many problems our sport will continue to see from many liberal legislators, and even the democratic party in general.
I am not saying that the republicans are a bargain either because there not, but unless there is open discussion on these subjects how will many riders learn that the lying SOB their father, union, school or who ever is telling them to vote for is the same guy who is working with the sierra club to shut down your favorite ride area.
If you look at it this way its not only a viable topic, but prob one of the more important ones.
JMHO BR>
Posted by: 440EX026
Also I wont get into censoring because that always seems to get me into trouble BR>
Posted by: 440EX026
Well done!!!
Only thing I will question is the following because I honestly believe both parties are very, very guilty of this.
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The democates want low level acheivers and a dumbed down environment to nurture to minds of the young so they will be easy to lead around and controll. So they can stay in power by taking away the freedoms of the peoples while telling you its good for you.
Posted by: 440EX026
Hey Dr that episode was freakin hysterical!!!
As far as the dem v rep thing goes I wouldnt bother getting myself so worked up over it since they are becoming pretty much the same anyhow. I mean both are parties that only are money is truely invited to, and I am honestly starting to believe they are really one group that uses two different colored doors to exit the room they use to figure out how to get over on the people.
I am not fond of how the oil companies were allowed to gouge us, but I also blame both parties for allowing it to happen, and even if you see the connection between gw and that industry I am still not able to understand why the supposed opposing party didnt have anything positive to add to the scenerio.
Also I would rather be paying more for fuel and have something to put it in, and a place to ride it than having no place to ride or no $$ due to supporting every social program etc.
Posted by: 440EX026
Now thats one way to put it!!
Well done.....
Posted by: 440EX026
Hey very good points, and yes China does worry me both as an industrial giant, and a world superpower as well.
Not sure if you have seen it, but there is another thread here that is discussing the after effect on our economy from all the imports, and unregulation by our govt towards or from China. Its a good read for anyone interested in seeing how the actions of both the left and the right over the last 50 or so years have hurt the american worker.
Buy American
Posted by: 440EX026
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Anyone who will blindly stand by one political party or another without any admission or acknowledgement of fault or that agrees on every single issue on the table with the party masses has completely lost any individuality and capability of intelligent and analytical thought and discussion.
Isnt that the truth, but lets also look at these thoughts.
By what I have seen as far as the voting records of current and past politicians around 95% seem to vote directly along party lines. It seems to appear as some kind of "payback" for the party supporting them and its causes and effect to their being in office in the first place.
In all but the largest elections (pres, gov etc) around 80% of the votes are cast by registered voters of either of the two main political parties.
I know in some states these numbers change a little, but its really sad that our elected officials put their party before the people there supposed to serve, and unless its a national level election the overwhelming majority of votes are cast by registered voters of either party, and obviously assumeably for their affiliated parties candidate.
This really explains why so much attention is given by both parties to the independent or "swing" voter in the larger elections, and not as much $$'s are assigned for those voters in the smaller elections.
Have to admit its nice to be independant and to be able to make voting decisions based on a cadidates previous actions and not his or her party affiliation only.
Posted by: KGB
Lieberman was the only one who supported the war, so of course he was happy, there was no BS in his repsonse. THe BS was in the response of Dean (the enemy of all of us).
What the liberals will complain about now is the fact that Pres. Bush did not find him sooner, that he might be hanged, that the Red Cross has not seen him yet, that we broke internationla law by showing film of a prisoner,that so many died in the fight, that Bin Laden is still missing, that we still have not found WMD's.
Thats what liberals do, they complain about what it wrong, they never do anything about it Liberals never say what they are for, only what they are against.
Spineless.
Posted by: cop
Lone, I feel it has been a great day with Saddam captured. Now what are the dem presidential candidates going to blast Bush for? The war in Iraq was the right thing to do for our country and the middle east security issues. Next we need Bin laden, Then bush is going to look like a genius. All those detactors saying the war was a failure because Saddam was still free can now kiss my A$$!!
Posted by: Vakero
LMAO. The next Bush in the White House will be from Florida. He will beat Hillary in 08. Bush will run with W as his Vice. Now that would bring a smile to my face. What would the likes of Mike Moore and his ilk do when this happens? What heinous deception will they attempt then?
As far as the comment from 440EX026, it can be disregarded. How could any reasonable person take seriously a voter that votes for Corzine on the basis of his campaign promises (read lies)? He swore on not rising gas taxes during campaigning, but after he gets elected, BAM------Higher Gas taxes in the pipe line.
For the record, I am not a Neo-Con. I am an old school Conservative and proud to be of a party that thinks rightly. Not like that ultra-liberal socialist (read Communist) organization that has become the Democratic party of today. It must be a nightmare for Democrats these days. For a Liberal to win an election today there must be failure in some aspect of the work Bush is doing. They wish for failure in Iraq and a deprived economy, and gasoline prices that working people can&39;t afford and a racist that would let our brother and sister Americans die in a storm because he hates the color of their skin. In their eyes, if they make it perceived that it happened, they will be elected. Typical Liberals. Their party is run by the likes of Kennedy, Boxer, Schumer, Dean, Kerry, Turbin Durbin, ECT, and ECT. You know there is a serious problem with structure when Hillary is running to the right of this courtyard full of jesters.
Be careful of posting threads like this because the thread just might be moved several times if it is pointed out that someone is a hypocrite. They may arbitrarily lock you out of this thread because they would like to talk a little smack about you or a President that has performed his job better then any Liberal ever could, but admonish you for your opinion.
One last thought I have. If you enjoy riding an ATV do you think you will have the privilege if those environmentalist extremist on the far left fringe of that pitiful party ever come to power? Don&39;t answer, it is a rhetorical question.
Posted by: Vakero
Yes, I do know that this thread is two years old. I posted to for a specific reason. If you don&39;t get it, you wouldn&39;t understand. Also, it seemed somehow fitting, as Iraq has now voted in a true democratic election. It looks as if there may even be a 70%+ registered voter turn out for the election.
Mr. Dumass, it is a shame you feel the way you wrote in this thread. The power of which you speak is already in your possession. If you choose to become active in what you believe the results can and will be acted upon. Look at it in this light. If enough conservative people fail to vote in a state, oh, let&39;s use Massachusetts, and enough liberal people drive their base to the polls then what you have is the Kerry/ Kennedy Klan, and one of the highest taxed states in the country.
As for the B & B team, it is just my little stab at the hypocrite liberals in today&39;s society. I can&39;t think of anything that would infuriate that gang more. The thought makes me smile pondering the possibilities.
Last, but not least, I see you have found me again. Are you stalking me? Look, if you don&39;t like Republicans on this site, then, remove them or have the posts locked. Again since you have joined this fine thread I suppose that you are vested in a conversation making yourself dumber for the experience.
Posted by: Vakero
I believe you know why this thread was posted. This thread was directed at one person. Guess what? The person answered.
This would have never been posted if the other thread was left alone. Is there is some bias here. It would appear that you don&39;t mind leftist liberal BS on here. In the other thread another member has basically used ignorant statements calling the President a racist, torturing, lying, morally bankrupt, uninformed, useless POS. I grew tired of it and posted back in a place where I knew it would be seen.
Heck,,,,,,,,,
I don&39;t know why I am dancing around the subject. The fact is that if uninformed people choose to use baseless arguments and there are bigoted moderators to remove threads aimed at pointing out the ignorance, well, I guess this is another example of the levels that Liberals will stoop in order to “protect” themselves.
You see, it&39;s in the previous thread. Didn&39;t even have to look in-between the lines. You are a flaming Liberal. Why don&39;t you admit it and I would simply leave it alone? Stop trying to come off as someone that doesn&39;t have an agenda to push. Tell the truth about your bias and you will be respected. People respect an honest person that truly believes in their convictions. Until then, you are only lying to yourself.
Posted by: Vakero
Also, if you feel the need to have this thread removed then please do. This will further expose the truth about your bias.
Posted by: Vakero
I know what this forum is to be used for. Some of the comments I have seen here were out of line. After a certain point I posted back against them. If a mod chooses to remove the threads because of content I do understand the reason why.
Looking at what another mod posted would reason a bias. If a mod engages in political discussion it will lead where it is taken. If politics of this nature are too controversial then a fair minded mod would delete or modify the post as inappropriate. He wouldn&39;t engage and disparage.
Posted by: Vakero
If money is the root of all evil, please feel free to send me yours! Daddy needs an new cv joint.
Thank you.
Posted by: motox26
You do know this thread is 2 years old don't you?
Posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
Twizz............DANG you are windy!!!!!!! but have some good stuff to say! BR>
OK....first where did you find your info on China hording resources? I am aware of a little bit, BUT knew nothing of what you were telling! I would like to read up on that!
Second: My wife and I home-school our kids, I get no tax break, I still have to pay 1000's into my local school system that SUCKS and benefit zero from it. I only have one household income because of this. On top of the taxes I have to purchase out of my pocket ALL of the books both teacher and student versions and that adds up to about a G a year! I do all of this because I only want the best for my kids and nothing less! The only argument I USED TO GET from friends and family about the home-schooling was "social interaction". LMAO my kids do three times the stuff a public school child does. Softball, ballet, tap-dance, choir (at church and privately with an ex opera singer) , a.w.a.n.a., and whatever else they are interested in. So with all of that said....I agree with you!
Posted by: HappywithVForce
I heard somewere that they saw 2 democrats on a pink raptor.........YIKES what a thought!
Posted by: DrDune
WOW! the first posts of this thread remind me of that episode on South Park in which all the town males turn homosexual because the migrants from the future keep taking all the jobs. BR>(they tuckarejubs!!) now that was some funny isht!
You think 4 years of the dumbest red neck ever to lead a powerful country would be enough? but noooo! the mighty crimson collars struck again and voted W for another four years. Guess ya'll wont be happy until we start paying $4 a gallon for gasoline. 4 more years 4 more years!!! woooo hooo! img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif" border="0">
Posted by: DrDune
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Originally posted by: Twizz
Here is where much of my extreme worry comes from dealing with the democratic party. The hard line extreme liberals have taken the lead roles as voice and party issue stance. The group Vakero mentioned is not the entire list of " radical extremist ", Vakero you forgot Suzan Pulaski .
Here is the political difference between the republican view and the new lead democratic view.
The republican view on federal park land is we realize that people are just as important as the wild life and we can responsibly share a portion of the land together. Get out and enjoy it. Out of the millions of acres out there a very small portion is being used for trail systems and off road use. There is minimal impact to the inviorment when properly maintained trail systems are in function. In my region" the largest and only of it kind, " federal park with orv/ atv trail systems comprise of around 1 % of the acrage in that park. I feel we need to do a little better than that at several more park locations per state.
Now the democratic view on federal park land is quite different. Their views are pulled from the Serria Club and several hundered other enviromental extremists organizations that stipulate our wild life and the survival of it is a national treasure and therefore All efforts and actions warrent isolationizm as the best method to procure that.
What that means is they not only want to take away all orv and atv trail systems but you are not ever going to get anymore. The next step would be to not allow anybody in the park at all including going for a hike or walk, because that would disturb wild life equally. The next step would be to put barb wire fencing arround all park land.
That about sumes up the polictical view that pertains dirrectly to ORV and ATV trail system use to the public. The republicans say yes room to use and democats say no more use.
The democates want low level acheivers and a dumbed down environment to nurture to minds of the young so they will be easy to lead around and controll. So they can stay in power by taking away the freedoms of the peoples while telling you its good for you.
The republicans want the brightest young who will be the future of america and continue its economic strenth in the world and continue its fight for freedom.
Here is a good issue that republicans are fighting against which could apply to you.
The democratics have managed to push their local legisation to annex any property they want. Well annexation is not new and has always been there when they might need to remove a home or two to widen a road if it is the last resort to provide pubic service to the masses.
The democatics have once again extremely twisted that power to a new level never before thought. Now the have re-written the legislation in some areas to be fully able to annex any and all land however they want to take over large comunities. Then they give the home owner what ever the "developers tells them" is fair price and re-selles the land to big developers to do what they want like build a mall or a gated private water front resort. The democrates have figured out that they can raise the tax revenue by turning houses and its property into small sq ft condos and townhouses.
Take away a working families house to give it to the rich mans golf resort or developers choice pick for cheaply taken land where they want. That is the future of the democratic party so have you been a victom of the domcrats latey? You had better check your front door for a large orange poster.
Aaron
My goodness what a steaming pile of acrp! How about this for you Aaron. How about restructuring the US infastructure so as to support our mobility thru other means other than the buring of fossil fules? Why wont we do that? because that would be hard! a monumental undertaking! It would mean fat America would have to give up the easy route,(you know gas the car and go) and put in a hard days work, say for the next 20 years. It would mean jobs for Americans here at home. There have been studies on how to accomplish this, you know building refineries that produce hydrogen. Trillions of dollars! they say. OK so what are they waiting for?a bigger terrorist attack? 10,000 US soldier casualties? what's the hold up? Oh yeah its easier to keep puting money into the oil companies pockets (you know those pesky arabs, aren't they just the greatest people? ) It's easier for the Bush administration to keep making money for the companies they CEO'd. If your only urgument is that you hate to lose? then do a little research get educated and for god's sake stop taking the easy way out!
-DrDune
PS I ment to post Twizz second post must be all that pot I smoked ... I needed it to get thru the intellectual throuncing given by the one who can't spell.
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Originally posted by: DrDune
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Originally posted by: TwizzHere is where much of my extreme worry comes from dealing with the democratic party. The hard line extreme liberals have taken the lead roles as voice and party issue stance. The group Vakero mentioned is not the entire list of " radical extremist ", Vakero you forgot Suzan Pulaski . Here is the political difference between the republican view and the new lead democratic view.The republican view on federal park land is we realize that people are just as important as the wild life and we can responsibly share a portion of the land together. Get out and enjoy it. Out of the millions of acres out there a very small portion is being used for trail systems and off road use. There is minimal impact to the inviorment when properly maintained trail systems are in function. In my region" the largest and only of it kind, " federal park with orv/ atv trail systems comprise of around 1 % of the acrage in that park. I feel we need to do a little better than that at several more park locations per state.Now the democratic view on federal park land is quite different. Their views are pulled from the Serria Club and several hundered other enviromental extremists organizations that stipulate our wild life and the survival of it is a national treasure and therefore All efforts and actions warrent isolationizm as the best method to procure that.What that means is they not only want to take away all orv and atv trail systems but you are not ever going to get anymore. The next step would be to not allow anybody in the park at all including going for a hike or walk, because that would disturb wild life equally. The next step would be to put barb wire fencing arround all park land. That about sumes up the polictical view that pertains dirrectly to ORV and ATV trail system use to the public. The republicans say yes room to use and democats say no more use.The democates want low level acheivers and a dumbed down environment to nurture to minds of the young so they will be easy to lead around and controll. So they can stay in power by taking away the freedoms of the peoples while telling you its good for you.The republicans want the brightest young who will be the future of america and continue its economic strenth in the world and continue its fight for freedom. Here is a good issue that republicans are fighting against which could apply to you. The democratics have managed to push their local legisation to annex any property they want. Well annexation is not new and has always been there when they might need to remove a home or two to widen a road if it is the last resort to provide pubic service to the masses. The democatics have once again extremely twisted that power to a new level never before thought. Now the have re-written the legislation in some areas to be fully able to annex any and all land however they want to take over large comunities. Then they give the home owner what ever the "developers tells them" is fair price and re-selles the land to big developers to do what they want like build a mall or a gated private water front resort. The democrates have figured out that they can raise the tax revenue by turning houses and its property into small sq ft condos and townhouses. Take away a working families house to give it to the rich mans golf resort or developers choice pick for cheaply taken land where they want. That is the future of the democratic party so have you been a victom of the domcrats latey? You had better check your front door for a large orange poster.Aaron
My goodness what a steaming pile of acrp! How about this for you Aaron. How about restructuring the US infastructure so as to support our mobility thru other means other than the buring of fossil fules? Why wont we do that? because that would be hard! a monumental undertaking! It would mean fat America would have to give up the easy route,(you know gas the car and go) and put in a hard days work, say for the next 20 years. It would mean jobs for Americans here at home. There have been studies on how to accomplish this, you know building refineries that produce hydrogen. Trillions of dollars! they say. OK so what are they waiting for?a bigger terrorist attack? 10,000 US soldier casualties? what's the hold up? Oh yeah its easier to keep puting money into the oil companies pockets (you know those pesky arabs, aren't they just the greatest people? ) It's easier for the Bush administration to keep making money for the companies they CEO'd. If your only urgument is that you hate to lose? then do a little research get educated and for god's sake stop taking the easy way out! -DrDune PS I ment to post Twizz second post must be all that pot I smoked ... I needed it to get thru the intellectual throuncing given by the one who can't spell. hr>
So instead of responding to the post you pose another question / topic? Come back with a legit response to Twizz's post and we will move on to your next question / topic....OK? Thanks hr>
Well I thought I had answered the question pretty clearly. I mean if you want me to rant and rave I can, but who really has time for all that? Are you sure your not some secrect Republican spin master trying to make sure ATV connection stays right wing? I wonder.
Oh I hear someone is giving money away. Can I get some too? I found this great new mechanic that's going to make the 450 fly.
Posted by: mywifesquad
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Originally posted by: motox26
You do know this thread is 2 years old don't you?
That never stopped us. BR>
And Vakero that Floridian Bush idea is interesting. Did you hear that some where? or is it wishful thinking?
Posted by: mywifesquad
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Originally posted by: Vakero
As for the B & B team, it is just my little stab at the hypocrite liberals in today&39;s society. I can&39;t think of anything that would infuriate that gang more. The thought makes me smile pondering the possibilities.
Last, but not least, I see you have found me again. Are you stalking me? Look, if you don&39;t like Republicans on this site, then, remove them or have the posts locked. Again since you have joined this fine thread I suppose that you are vested in a conversation making yourself dumber for the experience.
It would be fun to listen to the media's reaction. BR>
You may not believe this, but he kind of grows on you after a while.
Posted by: MrDumass
Politics is a bunch of hub-bub! All a waste of time, breath, and life. Nothing is going to drasticly change, until drastic measures are takin! Rise up and take back the power that belongs to us, the people!
Posted by: MrDumass
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Originally posted by: maddog56
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Originally posted by: MrDumass
Politics is a bunch of hub-bub! All a waste of time, breath, and life. Nothing is going to drasticly change, until drastic measures are takin! Rise up and take back the power that belongs to us, the people!
Whether you're joking or not, I would tend to agree with this statement. The way I see many Republicans acting on this site is embarassing and humiliating to anyone who shares any similar ideas. And Dems retort with similarly idiotic posts, making anyone who's vested in the conversation dumber for the experience.
No, I'am not joking. Its re-gotdam-diculous!
Posted by: MrDumass
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Originally posted by: MrDumass
Politics is a bunch of hub-bub! All a waste of time, breath, and life. Nothing is going to drasticly change, until drastic measures are takin! Rise up and take back the power that belongs to us, the people!
Oh, look at all the time, life, and money wasted right here arguing over who is right! Debate all you want, nothing ever gets done when people cant agree or play the blame game. The government of this country needs a serious cleansing and mind set change. Money is the root of all evil!
Posted by: Dfru
I thought we went to Iraq over oil? When we never saw the prices go down now that is Bush's fault too? What do you liberal want anyway? The real reason for high gas prices is environmentalist stopping us from building new refineries. For heavens sake the republicans are trying to allow drilling in the God forsaken, rocky, cold as h.. Anwar to decrease the dependance on foreign oil and the old Dems. are threatening another fillabuster.
Now on the land use issue here is a good one for you. A friend of mine rides horses and pack-mules in the mountains, new laws state they have to pack out the horse manure too! Another example of environmentalists going off the deep end, edging ever closer to their goal of closing trails to everyone.
Posted by: Dfru
Amen!
Posted by: Twizz
Maddog56 well I'm waiting on an answer!
Why did you remove that post because I want to see it? I am a free thinker.
The first step COMUNISM is oppression. Would you agree? Then let me decide please.
If you dont care about politics than so be it, no matter what your persuasion or how you approach it.
If you think politics are not important than you are missing the whole concept of what it means to be an American.
I want to see that post.
Aaron
Posted by: Twizz
Here is where much of my extreme worry comes from dealing with the democratic party. The hard line extreme liberals have taken the lead roles as voice and party issue stance. The group Vakero mentioned is not the entire list of " radical extremist ", Vakero you forgot Suzan Pulaski .
Here is the political difference between the republican view and the new lead democratic view.
The republican view on federal park land is we realize that people are just as important as the wild life and we can responsibly share a portion of the land together. Get out and enjoy it. Out of the millions of acres out there a very small portion is being used for trail systems and off road use. There is minimal impact to the inviorment when properly maintained trail systems are in function. In my region" the largest and only of it kind, " federal park with orv/ atv trail systems comprise of around 1 % of the acrage in that park. I feel we need to do a little better than that at several more park locations per state.
Now the democratic view on federal park land is quite different. Their views are pulled from the Serria Club and several hundered other enviromental extremists organizations that stipulate our wild life and the survival of it is a national treasure and therefore All efforts and actions warrent isolationizm as the best method to procure that.
What that means is they not only want to take away all orv and atv trail systems but you are not ever going to get anymore. The next step would be to not allow anybody in the park at all including going for a hike or walk, because that would disturb wild life equally. The next step would be to put barb wire fencing arround all park land.
That about sumes up the polictical view that pertains dirrectly to ORV and ATV trail system use to the public. The republicans say yes room to use and democats say no more use.
The democates want low level acheivers and a dumbed down environment to nurture to minds of the young so they will be easy to lead around and controll. So they can stay in power by taking away the freedoms of the peoples while telling you its good for you.
The republicans want the brightest young who will be the future of america and continue its economic strenth in the world and continue its fight for freedom.
Here is a good issue that republicans are fighting against which could apply to you.
The democratics have managed to push their local legisation to annex any property they want. Well annexation is not new and has always been there when they might need to remove a home or two to widen a road if it is the last resort to provide pubic service to the masses.
The democatics have once again extremely twisted that power to a new level never before thought. Now the have re-written the legislation in some areas to be fully able to annex any and all land however they want to take over large comunities. Then they give the home owner what ever the "developers tells them" is fair price and re-selles the land to big developers to do what they want like build a mall or a gated private water front resort. The democrates have figured out that they can raise the tax revenue by turning houses and its property into small sq ft condos and townhouses.
Take away a working families house to give it to the rich mans golf resort or developers choice pick for cheaply taken land where they want. That is the future of the democratic party so have you been a victom of the domcrats latey? You had better check your front door for a large orange poster.
Aaron
Posted by: Twizz
Dune you cant be a doctor because they length and discipline of the scholastics achieved for that honor would not warrant such an ignorant claim as that.
GW- dumbest red neck.
The man is from the south but went to Harvard with Kerry, past oil executive, business owner of major sport entertainment team, local politics to Texas governor to President of the United States.
You might call me the dumbest red neck but I haven't achieved Presidential accreditation yet.
You blame the George Bush presidency for the gasoline price increase, your not serious are you?
The entire energy monopoly of crude oil is owned by many foreign countries including Russia, Venezuela , OPEC-United Emeritus of Arabia, Iraq and many other players.
The United States is only one of the big consumers and no longer the biggest consumer as we once we. There is a new giant on our doorstep and they are competing from our global vendors of ALL resources. China!
1/3 of our oil comes from Venezuela. There is tension between the US and Venezuela right now as you are probably educated to know. Venezuela has stated they want to ween off US dependence for there crude oil and have all ready set up a business venture in China to market more of their oil to them.
China is not only swallowing up as much oil as you can send them, they are also the key factor in dominating most all other natural resources in the world right now. All producers of steel and iron and timber concrete an minerals are getting sent right over there because they are paying top dollar for these materials. Hence to compete for these resources we need to compete at the price. Just to give you an idea of these other price increases steel doubled in price and titanium costs seven times as much, raw copper has tripled. All other products have at least doubled or tripled. American timber harvests are getting sent right over because they need it and pay double to secure it.
Play in the fact as previously mentioned about insufficient oil refineries, and markets jambs with Katrina and Florida. The US military is eating its part of US oil reserves and we are just touching the surface of what effects our national gasoline prices.
Get it? That should up date your global economic lesson for the day.
Now........
My comment the democrats are dumbing down the youth for control of national power is a provocative thought.
How did I come to this simple process? You need to look at the the whole picture between the democratic objective on the public school system and their political agenda.
The public school system nation wide in a whole is a broken machine. We all know this. Not every school is a poor performer but many are.
The republican objective is to offer school vouchers for parents to send their children to better school systems which pertained to private schools including those run by church organisations. They wanted parents to have a choice in their children's future no matter who you are. All most all of these private church schools have prove three things> 1. The private schools screen better teachers. 2. The youth are achieving far higher grade points than in public schools systems. 3. They are getting those higher standards and the running costs are half as much as what the tax paying people are forking over to send a child into the public school system.
Republicans want to kill the poor preforming schools and force the good ones into competing even higher with programs like ' Leave not child behind .'
Now the Democrats are politically in bed with all teacher unions who have a strong hold within local governments, naturally. And most teachers are Democratic Liberals. So the public school system teacher unions are fighting for their livelihood. What is happening is the teacher unions have resisted any efforts to make the teachers accountable for their students so they cant be graded themselves and fired for low performance shortfall. The Democrats want you to believe that pumping more and more money in a broken system is the answer. Grades keep falling and the youth keep getting dumber and dumber.
So now lets take a looks at who the Democratic Liberals are appealing to. The democrats have always been especially keen to market they are working for the working men and women and the poor. They have been rhetorically known to go into cities during elections and pick up the street people and give them a pack of cigarettes and bus them to the voting booths and tell them to hit the Democratic elects. They are marketing to the under-educated and immigrant populous having them believe they will get more special free-bee services when we all know we are all in the same fair play. The foreign population has grown to soon become the largest population in the US. The foreign population has among the highest academic burden to overcome to equally achieve and records show that they don't achieve the same levels amongst the other non-foreign students.
By pushing failing schools and not breaking the teachers union for performance targeting, targeting and preying on the poor and foreign populous as already the lowest level mentally challenged group, the evidence is linear.
The Liberals want to lower passing grades to be able to herd more youth towards national disaster. The youth of today are the leaders of tomorrow. Our future economic success depends on our youth of today. Liberals in power want to continue the same revolving circle I've spelled out to you. By dumbing down America they can ensure they have got the votes locked in and hence keep control of governmental power including the Presidency. They are very close.
Now please don't be ignorant to bring up why we are in Iraq or WOMD or I will have to give a real intellectual whooping.
Aaron
Posted by: Twizz
Thrash I admire your perseverance to put your children ahead of the pack with home schooling. The only problem I see that might come out of it is developmental social skills from lack of interaction between school mates. However with your after school team sport activities I think you have found a good way around that problem. The school system is going to make it vary difficult for you to home school. They want you in their program to to assure you get a sub-par education under the control of the teachers unions. My compliments to you.
I have stated much info from accumulation from over the last four years of being observant and catching articles, new reports, public broad casts of industry focused and global economic ventures in nature. Many of the reports have come from PBS BBC Associated Press and foreign correspondent reports from world news on Public Radio including American University and periodicals and Washing post new paper, Discovery channel. Then have related it to personal experience within my business that have confirmed the raw material to produce products have risen to astronomicals levels over the last three years. China is the source squeezing the markets on all levels.
I just saw a world news show on an international television channel that was discussing many facets of what is going on in several large cities in China. They were discussing the homes of many neighborhoods being slated for demolition and their government involvement and citizens opposition interaction. Not the focus of the report but towards the end of the show they displayed maps and aerial video from recent past to present and what I saw was shocking!
The Chinese are not just building new office manufacturing and residential high rises on a scale we in the US are accustomed to seeing, they are building cities over night. They showed expansion to a city district in eight months that would have rivaled half the size of any major US city. City building, nation building ; across their country has built their economy very strong and is going to be one the biggest world power on our planet. They have for a long time been a world power of military and population but now they are going to be the strongest economic power as well. And with their volatile aggressive communist politics they are a dangerous giant to the US economics because we have become a slave to their cheap import goods. Europe's industries are also being affected the same way.
DR. Dune I agree " we " as a plant have to find alternative energy sources. The expected depletion of Arabian oil reserves have been estimated in thirty to forty years I have heard several times. I have invested in a company that goes into depleted oil wells and scrubs the wells for additional renewable fuel deposits. That is not a real means to add any new fuel sources to the market but its technology that makes fuel from nothing.
I have watched closely reports of the promise of the hydrogen fuel source technology. It appeared to sound like the answer to our future. However, the latest studies show that it was not feasible direction. The experts found that they could make it yes! But what was the catch? It take more energy to make the hydrogen than the energy you get from hydrogen. Therefor, it will never be able to sustain itself. Lets say it take 10 pounds of energy to make 9 pounds of energy. Then you have nine pounds left to make 8 pounds, and etc. It is not feasible. no matter how much money it takes to build that technology, it cant support itself.
There is much promise in locomotive means from improved battery technology. But I think that can only go so far. Nuclear energy is going to be the only long term gap for power. As you can see from the West we need to build more nuclear power stations and force more solar energy technology upon the public. Such as every new home should have mandatory solar power back up system. Once you get the free power source, you are going to want more and higher standards.
I'm not sure where you thought my comments were acrp. I could see how your youthful aspects might try and argue that my political views or approach leaned on bigotry. Blame to poor and uneducated. Not so! There will always be poor and uneducated and we must embrace them as part of society equally. Every individual can make his own destiny in the free world. However, under liberal persuasion you are doing to be dealt a larger number of low cards.
PS have you heard that Russia has imposed reduction of natural gas by reducing the pipe line pressure? Its causing heavy restriction to Russia and European countries. Russia's pipeline feed much of Europe. They are flexing their muscle on their energy market. I'm not sure if its to raise prices but I wouldn't be surprised if they are shedding Europe to try and feed China. Its worth keeping an eye on Russia's energy markets because the US is trying to partner for their oil markets as well.
Aaron
