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Posted by: Mr45auto
Dollarbillz you're comparing a diesel to a gasser. My V10 Ford will slaughter a PSD(acceleration) in towing or empty, however I cant get the 14+mpg towing or 17+ empty. Go up to www.getpower.com for some interesting comparisons. Btw, my next rig will be a Powerstroke. It wont get into traffic like my V10 does but it'll do just fine on the mileage! In my humble opinion whatever you get dont buy a 1/2 ton truck. Buy a good 1 ton rig, F350 D3500 or chevy 3500. You never regret having too much payload capacity. Btw my 99 V10 has 91000 miles without a single trip to the shop. Absoloutly ZERO mechanical failures. Sure I change the brake pads and the fluids but that's been it. Former chevy guy turned onto Ford trucks.
Posted by: Mr45auto
IMPORTH8R
Check banks' website. www.getpower.com The acceleration numbers are a combined truck/trailer weight of 20,000lbs. Thats about a 13,000 lb trailer. The only place the diesel gets it is on the 7% grade and that's 52mph vs 49mph for the V10. Anyhow I'm not arguing the point as my next rig is a diesel as well, I'll agree it's the better choice to tow with. My V10 runs alot higer RPMs to keep that speed than the diesel and will result in shorter life for the gasser. They are very comparable motors when you look at the hard numbers. I've driven PSDs. Nice rigs but a gasser will always feel better for a run around rig.
Posted by: Mr45auto
My Ex Wife bought a new avalanche. Gawd those two er that truck is ugly. Btw, she said her oil light comes on alot.... I told her not to worry much about that...
Posted by: Mr45auto
For a Chev you have to get the 8.1 gasser. Although I personally would get a Ford Superduty with the Powersmoker diesel....
Posted by: RAPTORAZ
Since I work at a GMC dealer, I can tell you from experience that the Dodge's solid front axle is MUCH more durable than the Chevy's I.F.S. Especially when lifted with big tires.
Posted by: Raptoryfn660r
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Originally posted by: TheIntimidator
the chevey headlamps for 04 are gross, taken form the 03 avalanche which ruined many years of great chevy's
You are so correctBR>
Chevy could have put the tailgate in front and it would have looked better.
I want that GM/Chevy designers job!!!
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Posted by: Raptoryfn660r
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Originally posted by: Mr45auto
My Ex Wife Btw, she said her oil light comes on alot.... I told her not to worry much about that...
LOL
Posted by: DollarBillz
i just traded in my 2001 f250 powerstroke and got a new dodge 2500 with the hemi and it pulls so much better than my old ford but drinks more fuel
Posted by: maddog56
Judging from your desire to lift the truck, here are my suggestions:
If you want a gm product, you need a 3/4 ton and the 6.0L v8.
If you buy the dodge, you need the Hemi.
Diesels would be great for either application. But remember that in the really sloppy stuff diesels really suck because of the vastly increased front end weight. I also believe that the new dodge trucks went to an ifs setup and ditched the solid front axle. I believe the solid front axle was only availible on the dodge rams with the 4x4 off road package. Those axles were excellent. Dana 60s i think.
Posted by: maddog56
The thing about diesel engines that really kind of makes me think is the cost. At around 5 grand the diesel option has to go to the pump many many times to make up for the lost money. a gain of 5-7 mpg would literally take years to make up the initial cost of the engine. And since most consumers dont keep a new truck more than 5 years, you would be extremely lucky to break even....Just something to think about.
Posted by: maddog56
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Originally posted by: IMPORTH8R
Good Point but... You also have to consider resale value, look at a price guide and compare to the cost of the diesel option. This is where the diesel pays off. Resale is consistantly $3000+ higher unless you own an older GM with the 6.5L turbo {not the Duramax} these dont sell very well because they are the red headed stepchildren of the diesel world. Owning diesel doesn't really hurt as bad as you think.
Yes, thats true that resale is higher, but thats just a product of a higher retail price. A car that cost 25K new should we worth more than one that was 20k.
Posted by: Eiger376
I would recommend both trucks. But I love my Bow-Ties!! I would get either the Silverado 1500 Z-71 with either the 5.3L or 6.0L Vortec V8 or the BIG MAC Silverado 2500HD with either the 8.1L Big Block Vortec V8 or the 6.6L Duramax Diesel. Yea a solid front axle is probably going to be more durable, but the Silverado is going to have more ground clearance and be better in the mud. I would strongly recommend a 96-98 Chevy Silverado Z-71 with the 5.7L Vortec, they were great trucks, and had great looks.
Posted by: JayBird04
i also have been looking at a few trucks. mostly dodge, because we get a family discount. but, it is a hard toss up between getting a diesel or a hemi. i have seen that hemi's have 345 stock hp and can be taken up to 500hp, but there goes the gas. and diesels are nice because they will last a lot longer, more torque and no plugs to worry about. well, i hope you find the right truck for you. just try to think about what you will mostly be doing with the truck and go from there. good luck.
Posted by: Sandtrax690Raptor
If you are going to lift it you should look in to a 3/4 ton with a diesel. If not in the long run you will be wearing out parts like the frontend and with a diesel you will still be ale to get 15+ mpg gas you will be looking at less than 10 mpg going that big also it will give you alot more power.
Posted by: BigScary
I read on somewhere that it is a SEMI-hemispherical combustion chamber..........so we call them "Semi Hemi's"
BR>
I am not impressed with them either...........
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Bowtie all the way!!!!
Posted by: BigScary
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Originally posted by: Sandtrax690Raptor
If you are going to lift it you should look in to a 3/4 ton with a deisel. If not in the long run you will be wearing out parts like the frontend and with a deisel you will still be ale to get 15+ mpg gas you will be looking at less than 10 mpg going that big also it will give you alot more power.
I agree that the diesel will have more power.........and will be better on gas.......but if you do any serious muddin or anything.........that extra 6-800lbs in the front end does NOT help anything.........
you will sink like a mug........LoL
Posted by: caliraptor
I would go with a 1/2 ton Chevy with the 5.3 (5.7 no longer available in Silverados, unles u live in Mexico). I have a 2003 Sierra reg. cab short bed. Dad has an 03 F-150 and its REALLY uncomfortable, friend has an 03 Dodge, its ok, but my truck pulls harder, another guy has a Tundra and has great power but it aint a full size truck. I would go with the chevy, parts are cheaper and...well...it aint no Dodge!
Posted by: TheIntimidator
I would say the new dodge would be the way to go, they look way nicer done up, and the chevey headlamps for 04 are gross, taken form the 03 avalanche which ruined many years of great chevy's
Posted by: Speedy2222
GET A HEMI!!!! lol that would b kick@ss a hemi ram with 44 swampers and a 9 inch lift lol and the sound would b sweet you'd b a crowd fav... and b kick@ss on the traisl ( hopefully) got lotsa power in a hemi
Posted by: DEMag
I am biased towards the Ram obviously. But thats me. Whats good for me may not be good for you. So, what you should do is test drive every vehicle you are thinking of buying and pick which one you like best. That what I did. I was going to buy the Silverado w/ the 6.0L Vortech, but it just felt slow and like it didn't have enough grunt. The Ram felt better to me.
Posted by: DEMag
gimme your e-mail. I have a cool pic of a lifted 2003 Dodge Ram. Custom paint, lots of chrome. It looks real nice!
Posted by: 03shee
looking at the new 1500 ram 5.7 or chevy 1500 5.7 Which one you fellas like. I'll be puitting 9inch lift with some 36 tires. What do you guys think? buddy just put 12 suspension, 3 body, 44 super swampers. That thing is high!
Posted by: 03shee
I lookes a diesels but I don't know a thing on how to fix them so going with gas!!!! Like the 2004 chevy EXCEPT THE FRONT END HEAD LIGHTS "UGLY" really like the dodge not because of the hemi crap the looks and interior are real nice. I just haven't seen a new dodge lifted by a foot, so I'll be waiting to see which one will look better. plus who will give me a better trade-in!!! later fellas
Posted by: 03shee
send da pic of the dodge to dw149@hotmail.com, or if any other cool pics of high truck, also I plan on keeping the truck for a long time!! 10 or more years so i'd like it to last
Posted by: shastadog
BOWTIE!!!!!
Posted by: IMPORTH8R
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Originally posted by: Mr45auto
Dollarbillz you're comparing a diesel to a gasser. My V10 Ford will slaughter a PSD(acceleration) in towing or empty, however I cant get the 14+mpg towing or 17+ empty. ]
You obviuosly have never had 10,000+ lbs behind your V-10, this is where the diesels shine. The diesels are more Expensive up front but hold their resale way better than a gas truck does. The solid axles under Ford/Dodge trucks are definately an advantage when you go to lift them, they are easier, cheaper, and hold together better than IFS.
Posted by: IMPORTH8R
Good Point but... You also have to consider resale value, look at a price guide and compare to the cost of the diesel option. This is where the diesel pays off. Resale is consistantly $3000+ higher unless you own an older GM with the 6.5L turbo {not the Duramax} these dont sell very well because they are the red headed stepchildren of the diesel world. Owning diesel doesn't really hurt as bad as you think.
