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Posted by: RAPTORAZ
I have two buddies at work. One has a Duramax, and the other has a new Powerstroke. Even the Duramax guy will admit that the new Powerstroke will smoke his ISUZU-MAX. Since I work at a GMC dealership I can vouch for the Duramax's durability. The GM's only real downfall is their wimpy IFS. Put a 6 inch lift on it and 35's, and plan on buying balljoints, idler arms, and tie rods on a regular basis. We see it all the time. First words out of our service managers mouth are: " Warranty Voided".
Posted by: Kraw
Chebby overrates the HP and Tq claims on their vehicles.
Their diesel sucks (know people that have them)
stick with real power, get a Cummins! 500+ Tq out of a SIX CYLINDER, Ford and Chebby need 8 to make that much!
the new 6.0 in the Ford is pretty bad ass. My dad just got one, it is FAST
Posted by: 01TRX300EX
We have an '01 Duramax and we love it, tons of power, nice ride, pulls anything and everything we strap to it, not one problem yet with 50,000 miles on it.
Posted by: NotuRaptor2
I have been looking at diesel trucks. Read some nasty posts on various forums about the Ford 6.0L having problems. All the talk of engine mappings made me think I was on the Cannondale forum. Also read that Ford is making changes that will be available in the 2004 trucks built after September 22nd (all the 2004s before will still have the old 2003 engine design).
Being a first time Raptor owner, I am real weary of buying a first year engine from Ford. Anyone on the forum running a Ford diesel? How many times you been back to the shop? Did your mileage suffer when they remapped your engine? Did you know they might have remapped your engine and you lost some power? I like the looksm the ride height, the solid front axle, and the interior space of the Ford. I can't afford to have something that isn't 99% dependable. I think I am leaning towards the Chevy 2500HD Crew cab/short bed. I would like to hear from someone who has either of these.
Thanks,
Jon
Posted by: NotuRaptor2
I ended up purchasing a 2003 Silverado 2500 HD LT crew cab with short bed and diesel. It is optioned to the hilt except for the DVD player and screen.
Pick it up tomorrow. Thanks for all the help.
/Jon
Posted by: whatwasthat
well, we got a new 1 ton dump with the diesel for work, 3500 miles so far on the 6 and no problems yet....great power by the way
Posted by: raptor03
Ford dumps trannies,they put the same tranny in all there trucks and dont beef it up for the powerstroke..
i know 3 people personally that have had this problem...jmo
Posted by: LTZ
2001 GMC 2500HD Ext.Cab Shortbed Duramax w/ Allison 5spd auto.... LOVE IT!!!!! The only way I would get rid of this truck is if I buy the 4dr 4x4. Excellent power, ride, and comfort. You wont be disappointed....
Posted by: BADBRONCO
The chevy will never come close to the ford while towing, I have an 03 powerstoke and it had a Ideling problem a couple of weeks after i bought it, took it back to the dealer and they fixed it and i havent had a problem with it since
Posted by: KGB
Isuzu's are quiter, Internationals are more powerrful.
Thats all there is to the argument.
Posted by: TyreSpinner
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Originally posted by: BADBRONCO
The chevy will never come close to the ford while towing, I have an 03 powerstoke and it had a Ideling problem a couple of weeks after i bought it, took it back to the dealer and they fixed it and i havent had a problem with it since
That's funny how the new Ford 6.0 250 4x4 are rated for a 13300 lbs. fifth wheel trailer....While the Duramax 2500HD 4x4 is rated at 15500 lbs.
Plus we pulled our fifth wheel travel trailer (38" Feet long, triple axle, one heavy luxurious pig) with a 2001 Superduty F350 2x4 7.3 Diesel and it could not do the job...Up-hill...pedal to the floor...and you barely made the hill....Luckily this was to tryout which truck we were going to get, because our 2000 Silverado 2500 could not do the trick, obviously.
Then we burrowed a '01 2500HD Reg cab Duramax from the Dealer....and it pulled the trailer like a dream...no kidding....Never any need for full throtlle driving and no strain at all on the truck. 1 week later...We bought a '02 2500HD Crew Cab Duramax LT Shortbox(you can see parts of it in my pics)....Expensive but worth every penny.
We've never owned a better truck....nothing has come close.
We haven't tried the new 6.0 Diesel from Ford but I doubt it will be much of an improvement...IMHO.
Jeff
Posted by: ShadyRascal
I have owned nothing but Ford trucks and have been driving for 26 years. Went to get a new one last winter, and after driving the Chevy, the Ford looked like a UPS truck inside. Bought a crewcab '03 Duramax and love it. The Ford had the new 6.0 at the time, and a new tranny, but the Max had been out a couple years and had some track record. I pull doubles with it, a 22' 5th wheel and a 14' trailer behind that holding 4 quads. Pulls it like a dream. I'm at 7000 feet elevation all the time too. I like the Ford styling still but the interior is crap. Now I got a DVD player so the kids have something to do, and XM radio, and OnStar, auto dual climate, best seats in the business, hello Ford???
Posted by: ShadyRascal
Hey, Rice Grinders and Corn Binders!
Posted by: BigScary
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Originally posted by: raptor03
Ford dumps trannies,they put the same tranny in all there trucks and dont beef it up for the powerstroke..
i know 3 people personally that have had this problem...jmo
the trans in the 6.0 is a totally different trans
it hasn't been in any other ford truck
JTF
(just the facts)
Posted by: BigScary
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Originally posted by: TyreSpinner
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Originally posted by: BADBRONCO
The chevy will never come close to the ford while towing, I have an 03 powerstoke and it had a Ideling problem a couple of weeks after i bought it, took it back to the dealer and they fixed it and i havent had a problem with it since
That's funny how the new Ford 6.0 250 4x4 are rated for a 13300 lbs. fifth wheel trailer....While the Duramax 2500HD 4x4 is rated at 15500 lbs.
Plus we pulled our fifth wheel travel trailer (38" Feet long, triple axle, one heavy luxurious pig) with a 2001 Superduty F350 2x4 7.3 Diesel and it could not do the job...Up-hill...pedal to the floor...and you barely made the hill....Luckily this was to tryout which truck we were going to get, because our 2000 Silverado 2500 could not do the trick, obviously.
Then we burrowed a '01 2500HD Reg cab Duramax from the Dealer....and it pulled the trailer like a dream...no kidding....Never any need for full throtlle driving and no strain at all on the truck. 1 week later...We bought a '02 2500HD Crew Cab Duramax LT Shortbox(you can see parts of it in my pics)....Expensive but worth every penny.
We've never owned a better truck....nothing has come close.
We haven't tried the new 6.0 Diesel from Ford but I doubt it will be much of an improvement...IMHO.
Jeff
there must have been something wrong with the stroke then......cause I sale both.......I have dirven both.......and I have pulled with both.......
the isuzu-max is nothing that I would buy.......
Posted by: Yamaha660R
anyone realize this is a atv forum?
Posted by: HA2
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Originally posted by: Kraw
Chebby overrates the HP and Tq claims on their vehicles.
Their diesel sucks (know people that have them)
stick with real power, get a Cummins! 500+ Tq out of a SIX CYLINDER, Ford and Chebby need 8 to make that much!
the new 6.0 in the Ford is pretty bad ass. My dad just got one, it is FAST
ummm, long-time family friend owns a dyno shop here in san diego and has proven time and time again that the new fords/international numbers were inflated.
id take both with a 100k warranty and forget about it.
Posted by: iluv2fly
What are you talking about, I am a mechanic and work on the powerstroke and duramax. I am not partiall to either but we have way more tranny problems with the duramax then the ford and the ford with the new 100hp edge chip will beat the duramax with the 125. I have ripped into a ton of trannys and ford is the best built I have ever seen on the diesel. Also ford does beef up the tranny for the diesel and totally reengineered it again for the 6.0 diesel. The only problems ford is having is computer problems and they will get worked out. We had a lot of head problems with the duramax when they first came out so they all have there problems. We do a lot of performance work on the diesels so we stress the crap out of things and the ford drivetrain holds up the best and the cummins engine will hold up to the most power.
Posted by: TOYS
I have a 2002 Ford F-350 PSD 7.3 and love it, hands down. Im waiting for the 04 6.0 PSD to come out. Stayed away from the new 03 because like any brand new thing there will be bugs but the 04 or 05 6.0 Ford PSD is and will be the best hands down. So either wwait and get the ford, or get a DODGE.
