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Maybe they can explain further about how an internal combustion engine works and why we haven't made it back from Mars yet................guys?

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The muffler bearing does'nt hold up on the way back.

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Posted by: Kraw

so, from what I gather, people aren't entitled to peace and quiet in their own homes?

My neighbors bro had a piped warrior, he let his kids right that damn thing up and down the road all the time. It was too friggin loud! I was working graveyard, so it was IMPOSSIBLE to sleep during the day with that friggin noise. I should have called the cops, but I didn't.

can we honestly justify riding an atv in a residential neighborhoood?

I feel that if I am in my home, I shouldn't have to hear peoples outside noise, and this includes bass and fart pipes.

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Originally posted by: hotseatperformancefan
no i agree we shouldnt ride roads at all. i get mad when kids on those go-peds drive up and down the streets with there loud pipes. im sayin that we should be able to have pipes and be able to ride in the woods but not on roads!! i hate ridin on roads because i no when i drive by someones house im pissing them off!!!

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and I can agree with that

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Posted by: Kraw

some of the replies here confuse me


I ask, do you like hereing someone elses noise when you are in YOUR house that YOU paid for? Do you want to hear some kid illegally riding up and down the road on a piped bike?

If you say yes, then I ask you, would like someone with a 150db competition sound system sitting at the end of your driveway, playing bass so loud it rattles your windows?

IMO, they are 2 in the same.


I want peace and quiet in my home, PERIOD.

I had a neighbor who had a Harley, he would crank it, and ride off, he never drove it back and forth around the neigborhood. If he had to do work on it and leave it running, he would always let me know first. It's called courtesy


and believe me, I am about as far from a tree hugger as you can get. I say, go pipeless with a 2 stroke if you want, just do it in a riding area so I don't have to listen to it

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kraw i wasnt talking to you i was talking to blackballed. he has a problem with everything.

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nah, I wasn't talking to anyone in particular, just making a comment BR>

AK, your neighborhood sounds like my worse nightmare. I can't stand neighbors with barking dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!! I honestly feel for you

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After 8a.m......before 9p.m....nieghbors don't like it? They can move.

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oh, and these are "THE" rules, or just yours? What about people who work overnight for a living and have to sleep during the day, is it ok for them to ride their bikes at night, on their off time? Just because you are sleeping, that means nothing, right?

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After 8a.m......before 9p.m....nieghbors don't like it? They can move.

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oh, and these are "THE" rules, or just yours? What about people who work overnight for a living and have to sleep during the day, is it ok for them to ride their bikes at night, on their off time? Just because you are sleeping, that means nothing, right?

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Kraw, maybe you should read my whold post before jumping too high. I said there are exceptions and that a sincere request goes a long way. If I am out on a Sat. morning with my quad and my nieghbors are up and their day has begun, or it is 5p.m. on a Wednesday and they are making dinner or whatever, and they are unhappy with the noise I am making...they can kiss my a**. Now , if I have a nieghbor who I know sleeps during the day...or a nieghbor with a baby who sleeps all day, I am not going to be bit*c and play. I do have respect for others. It is the lonely, sad, unhappy people who like to complain because they have nothing better to do who can move if they don't like it.

Have a nice day!

Oh, and by the way...I spent three years working a grave night shift, so my bed time was 5a.m.....and I did deal with a lot of noise from nieghbors who did not give a damn!I survived!

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I did read your post, it said people with new borns are the exception. I'm not ragging on you, just trying to make people think. If people would stop and think about what they are doing and how it may affect the people around them, things could/would be better. BR>
But this comment "and they are unhappy with the noise I am making...they can kiss my a**. " really gets to me. If the same was happening to you, I bet you would be pissed off too, and would probably get pretty hot if you asked them to stop and they told you to kiss their a$$. Are ATV's meant to be ridding in neighbor hoods? I know in La, it is illegal, ILLEGAL, to ride an ORV on the road or w/in 50ft either side. That is breaking the law.

Once again, not ragging on you, just trying to make people think BR>


Blackballed, nice post (the really long one) Saved me some typing


wanted to add one more thing, I do NOT live in the suburbs by choice. I work for the City of New Orleans, and we are required to live in Orleans Parish or w/in 10 miles of the airport. There are no rural areas w/in 10 miles of the airport I would move to Fluker/Kentwood area in a heartbeat if possible. I grew up on 120 acre farm, no neighbors, everyone knew each other. Living in the 'burbs is like a kick in the nuts, I hate it here

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Originally posted by: Coyotechaser
Trains! Trains! Now they are loud. My grandparents live next a railroad and the darn trains shake the house everytime they pass. Loud, so loud that you can't even talk when one passes.

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Jets! Jets! Did you ever hear those things flying overhead? I feel bad for people that live near airports. I live about 1 hour from an airport and I can still hear the jets when they're miles in the sky. Darn jets!

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airport is on the other side of the track BR>

now, if you want to debate airports and noise, that is another thread. 99% of the airports in operation today were built in non-residential areas. The land surrounding it was cheap, so people bought it up, and started bitching about the noise. They knew the airport was there, they shouldn't have moved close to it.

When I moved into this rent house, I knew it was 100' from a RR track and 1/4 mile from the airport I work there, short commute

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Originally posted by: 4wheelerjunkie
nice!!...i meant stock quads though like in 2 years are gonna have them but uhhh back to subject at hand lol....this is crazy everyone is telling me you cant get more power without the noise from the pipes im like wtf...there tellin me they can make metal that can go to mars and back without any problems and make cars with mufflers that are unbelievably cool sounding while still giving it more hp but noooooooooo
nothing for atv's this is unbelievable.....if someone would just make a quite pipe that would give them more hp they would be the best selling pipe out there i garuntee it....ill get off the band wagon....and ill simmer down now!!!!!!!!! lol i was lookin on the net and i saw a baffler for a chainsaw!!!! lol the only thing i wanna know is when are they gonna start makin them chainsaws shaft driven? lol j/k "shaftsaws!!!" lol

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I don't have a problem with loud pipes, in fact, I love them. I just don't want to hear some kid running up and down the road in a NEIGHBORHOOD for hours. That crap gets old. Now, if they just go by once while going somewhere, that is diff.

Plus all that other stuff I already said

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Posted by: Raptorx44

Some lady in my neighborhood keeps calling the police but all they say is ride with a helmet.

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Posted by: voodoo

AK, sounds like your dad is a pretty smart fella. I wouldnt worry bout the neighboors, only what you dad does. If he says ignore them... then id take that advice. Sounds like he will back you up anyhow when it comes right down to it.

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Posted by: vhcat400i

The last time I had some people over to my house to ride the only loud machine was a Raptor (Piped of course).After riding all day we were sitting back having a few beers and here come the cops they go by real slow.Of course he had to turn around and stop at my driveway.He approached us and asked us to call him next time we ride so he can join us. Just got to remember that alot of law enforcement have personal quads also.Ask them to join you.You never know.

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Posted by: blackballed

Here's a guy with a loud Harley........a kid with a loud stereo...........and what do "we" as responsible members of the atving community tend to do?...........why, go out and get a loud pipe that exceeds the very same sound limit!!!

Where does it stop?

Are folks out there trying to say that "we" should somehow be considered any less ignorant than the people we are complaining about?

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Posted by: blackballed

I certainly didn't mean to imply that "you" were ignorant and am sorry if it came out that way. It's just that when you go out and start revving your quad up on the property line to overcome someone else's "loudness" on the other side of it...........what does the guy 2 houses down, next door and across the street have to put up with?.

Same situation with buying a two-stroke Banshee and then taking somebody's suggestion to throw a pipe on it..........where does it all stop and (most importantly) who gets influenced into believing that this is the proper way to behave when your neighbor's an idiot?

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I love how people think they can confuse the issue of what noise is required to work and profit.......then somehow think they can turn the issue all around to the point of comparing it to whatever in the hell they want to do when they "recreate".........honestly, do they really think we're all that "dumb"?

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Originally posted by: hotseatperformancefan
"....im sayin that we should be able to have pipes and be able to ride in the woods but not on roads!!....."

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"wow"........

Is it really this "bad" out there?........ and what it is honestly going to take in order to start "waking these people up"?

I'm about ready to quit even "trying" to make any sense to these people..........In my opinion, they have pretty much taken over these boards with their (frankly) "shameless" ignorance..........just how "low" can we go, with these conversations?

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Posted by: blackballed

I just talked to one of the most influential people in this country when it comes to atv-related issues, yesterday........and what do you suppose was the issue (right up there along with trespassing) which he felt was the biggest threat to our sport?

I told him that there were a lot more people (see this thread as evidence) who are butt stupid enough about loud pipes than he might ever have imagined.

And nobody believes that our youth are being influenced by all of this?..........well then........I guess there are even 'more' dumbasses out there than what I claimed.

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We used to have a guy in our riding group that piped a scrambler and he always got stuck at the end of the line since nobody wanted to listen to it.

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Why........how could that possibly 'be' rob?????

Doesn't everybody just love and admire the guy with the loud pipe and never think for a minute that he pipes his bike to possibly overcome (cough) 'other' "short"comings?

Your story cannot possibly be true and I think you owe an apology to every rider who prioritizes his 'wants' in front of everybody else's !!!

C'mon rob, apoligize to these people as they would like 'us' to act when we point out their ignorance...................

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I missed some of the earlier posts which, for example, ridiculously compared the gas consumption on my Polaris to running a loud pipe.......C'mon guys......you can call me every name in the book and one fact (law) will always stand that you darn well better be teaching your children to follow.

There are sound limits all over this country that are there for a reason and they are to be obeyed by everybody.

Are there other groups out there that seemingly don't get the same attention as atvs do?........Yes

Do you teach your kid to wear a helmet even when if his buddies don't?.........of course........isn't it funny how some of you want to teach responsible behavior to your children.......... and then continually exhibit the exact opposite of this behavior when you turn your keys on and hit the button?.

Check the law and check your pipes.........it's as simple as that. The problem being; is that many of you up on here have absolutely no desire to check either one of these items........ and it is literally killing the perception others have of our sport (not to mention of yourselves, and
by association, your children).

If you guys aren't interested in "leading by example" when it comes to teaching these kids about noise within the community.........who will be?

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blackballed.......where do you live?

"junkie".........if you'll look at my signature......Michigan joined the union in 1837 and I'm sure you can get one of your teachers at school to help you find "Kalamazoo" on the map........

("junkie"):
"...it cant be in the united states and if you do what country are you from??...""

Again, ask your "Mom" or your favorite teacher to tell you why we "capitalize" the word "United States" and then have them explain to you that if I "do" live here...........that would actually be the country I am from. BR>
"why (i) ask this (is?) because you are very different from all the other users here and your acting like martin luther king jr. preachin about how we should start a revolution for good deeds and obeying laws...."

You know, junkie; I noticed the fact that things were being said up here "also" that were very "different" than what I would want my children to be exposed to.......things like breaking the law, telling off cops and just being generally inconsiderate of others.......aren't you glad that there have been a few people on here who have had the balls to just come right out and straighten some of these (what else can you call them but "punks") 'out'?
People such as this make me proud to be an American........one who knows it takes WORK to rid our society of the "gangsta" attitude that seems to have taken over our youth's minds.

"....also i dont think it matters how good example you are to your kids if they go to any school there gonna get the same thing from other kids, especially public!!....."

You are truly an eloquent voice for the next generation, junkie........that sentence is so deep and compelling that I don't even think I could ever possibly come up with a comment for it......I'm tellin' you folks........listen to this guy and LEARN !!!......."junkie" is truly the voice of our future!!!

"...(i) think the only way to make blackballed happy is to not have any kids so that way we cant be a bad example to them...am i right? ....."

"WOW".....you're right on the money, junkie.....don't stop now........give us some 'more' of your pre-teen wisdom!

"...i think that you need a mixture of "good and bad" inorder to get through life...."

You have to be one of the most intensely introspective individuals I have ever come across, "junkie"..........forget everything I ever said!...........this young person truly believes all this......and (by God) the rest of us should be hanging on his every word from here on out!!! BR>
Anybody ever get the idea that we are in more trouble than we might ever have guessed?

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I've just added wood splitters and chain saws to my list of things that need mufflers. Darn neighbors!

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Coyote,

Do you split wood and run your chain saw to enhance your survival on this planet and/or make a living.........and how does that compare with putting a loud pipe on your atv to go out and "recreate"?

Sounds like one is a necessary evil........while the other is making an evil "necessary" by somebody's selfish and inconsiderate behavior.

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NLWarrior,

Thanks for sharing the story regarding your cousin.........you can't blame someone for buying a loud pipe (how many of us have made purchases we later regretted)..........it is what you do afterwards when realizing that your actions are affecting others........that is the true measure of what I'll just call "a true 'man' ".
Couldn't have agreed more with the balance of your post and want to thank you for giving some of these young people up here a different way to look at something that they may have never even considered before this thread was started (looking back, I never should have generalized being a good citizen as extending only to "Americans"!). BR>
In regards to "trailbreaker".........this quote from your reply above; pretty much is evidence to me of the "victim mentality" which I'm sure is preached heavily among your young friends and when receiving your "diverse" education:

".....People who refer to "teens" as though every teenager is a criminal are short sighted and ignorant. Maybe that's what makes some teenagers not care about what adults say, because they won't get any credit for doing the right thing anyway......"

Nobody implied that every teenager is a criminal. What I 'am' implying, is that there are very few teens out there who are telling OTHER TEENS..........that the type of criminal behavior that they may witness in many of their 'rap' songs and on this sound/trespassing issue as good examples..........should not be glorified or respected. Please don't use "getting credit" (sorry, but you haven't earned much yet) as an excuse for disrespecting what your elders may have to tell you.......it just doesn't work outside the pshycoanalysts office and whatever liberal political party you hopefully don't get messed up in.

Thanks for your response and continue to tell your friends that you don't need "laws" to make decisions for yourself................there are millions of people in this country who have no idea what the acceptable sound level may be in their community...........but they have a pretty good idea that running a loud pipe isn't adding anything to their community that is benefitial to the majority in it.

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People need atv's for hunting (food source), landscaping, farming, yard work, a local boat sales place uses one to move boats around, disabled people use atv's to get around, police use them all around the country, lifeguards use them, and the list could go on.........

C'mon coyote!..........you aren't actually going to try and confuse the loud pipe issue with some disabled guy running a "stocker"; are you? How could you ever believe that anybody would ever buy into that comparison?

".... As far as a chain saw or splitter goes, they are not a necessity for millions of people. I use heating oil...."

Good for you..........than what "are" these two pieces of machinery generally used for?........are you going to try and use the same method above and try to convince us all that people go out and process wood for the "fun of it"?

"....There is no reason they could not improve a chain saw so it doesn't make so much noise...."

Have you heard about the latest 2-stroke engine regulations and just how far they extend to?

"....Either limit everything or nothing....."

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What a great statement to pass down to our young people on just how "simple" our society actually is.

Living by this motto, they can either be a die-hard liberal who wants the government in control of everything............or a bunkered down militia person who's just waiting for the "final showdown" with the government.

Gosh, it can't be any more complicated than "that".............can it.(?)

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"....this is crazy everyone is telling me you cant get more power without the noise from the pipes im like wtf...there tellin me they can make metal that can go to mars and back without any problems and make cars with mufflers that are unbelievably cool sounding while still giving it more hp but noooooooooonothing for atv's this is unbelievable.....if someone would just make a quite pipe that would give them more hp they would be the best selling pipe out there i garuntee it...."

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I've got guys on here agreeing with and encouraging a 15-year old young man who wonders why they haven't built a "quiet" high performance pipe and believes that we have been recovering space vehicles from "Mars" without a problem...........don't bother to straighten this young man out with simple physics or common sense........... IF HE "AGREES" WITH YOU!!!!........and these kids are being encouraged to run as loud as a pipe as they care to............. by "who"?...........BR>
"When your argument is weak..........it's always amazing who you wake up in bed beside come morning"

No offense, "junkie".......I just figured that your partners in this argument wouldn't allow "making their point" regarding all of this; to be subjecated to the all-important search for knowledge in a teenager's formative development.
Maybe they can explain further about how an internal combustion engine works and why we haven't made it back from Mars yet................guys?

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hello blackballs, ya sorry bout that post about the space shuttle..........

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No worries here.......the 'ol man was pretty tough on ya and he didn't probably account enough for the age factor.

I'll probably get on you again sometime in regards to trying to keep you from making the same mistakes we all have.......just don't take it personal

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Posted by: Eiger4x4

I have to ride on the side of the road to get where I ride at, im getting to the point of where I dont care what people think anymore. Its hard to please everyone.

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Posted by: Eiger4x4

And if sheriffs, state troopers, and DMVs past by me riding on the side of the road and dont care, i aint going to stop.

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

I know there are people besides me out there that have problems with their neighbors complaining about you riding. I live on a quiet dead end dirt road and the people all around us have complained at least once about "noise". I had a woman run me off the road into the ditch today. I saw her coming and stopped and pulled off all the way to the edge of the road. She did not move over an inch so I headed for the ditch, because goodness knows, if she ran into me it would be my fault. And meanwhile, her kids ride up the road at 11:00 at night in their lowered street trucks with the bass shaking the house. I've never ridden in their yard, I don't ride late at night, and I always slow down going by their house (always wearing a helmet), even though their house is well off the road in the trees. I've even had the cops called on me and seen them patrolling up the street. Has anybody else had any trouble with this?

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

I tried that once. One time the kid left his truck outside running with the radio on and I could hear it inside my house with the TV on. I went outside and sat there almost on the property line and revved it. It finally got them to come out and shut off the truck.

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

A Warrior osn't even that loud. They better hope I don't get a Banshee

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

Actually I have the stock pipe on mine, which is fairly quiet, I don't ride all day, and I don't ride late at night. So how is complaining about someone driving by 7 times a day with the radio blaring being ignorant when they complain about me and I don't make as much noise?

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

Lol, I wasn't actually going to do it. What I meant was, if I did have a Banshee (with pipes) that would really make some noise. As it is, my quad doesn't make enough noise to cause the neighbors to be so hostile.

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

Actually, it sounds like most Harley's could use a muffler, period. lol. But that's true, most mowers are about as loud as a quad. But maybe they think that since you have to mow your lawn, it doesn't matter how loud it is. But you dont HAVE TO ride a four wheeler. Oh well.

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And who are you actually talking to?

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

I've had the cops called on me but they never found me to get a chance to say anything. I haven't run from them though. That's about the worst thing you could do in that situation. They'd probably just say be careful too.

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

I feel really stupid, that's been confusing me the whole time. I can't tell who he's directing all his superior comments at.

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

I don't understand this, Black whatever is giving "the most influential people in the country on atv-related issues" ammunition against us. Maybe if sport quads make too much noise with the "loud pipes", maybe that tank of a Sportsman uses too much gas.

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

I think Kraw is talking to me. Just to let you know, I don't go fast down the road. All the other people on the street see me slow down and pull the clutch in so it goes down to an idle and they appreciate it. They smile and wave. I only go down the road once every few days, and I guarantee that they cannot hear my quad inside their house. Meanwhile, this woman that runs me into the ditch every time she sees me is letting her dogs run loose around our property where they eat our cat food and make all four of our dogs bark in the middle of the night while not slowing down at all when I'm cutting grass next to the road which leaves me literally in a cloud of dust and lets her kids blast up the road at whatever time of day shaking the house with their "music"? Who's being inconsiderate?

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

AKracer, you and me are having thr exact same problem. Sounds like you've got it a little worse than me though. It get's annoying when you're 15 and everyone automatically assumes because of your age that you have no brain and that you ride to fast and do stupid reckless things on a quad.

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

People who refer to "teens" as though every teenager is a criminal are short sighted and ignorant. Maybe that's what makes some teenagers not care about what adults say, because they won't get any credit for doing the right thing anyway. Now personally, I go to a private school, respect my elders, make good grades, and just happen to ride a sport four wheeler. Maybe we should start referring to "those darn adults", because they must be inconsiderate if they ride a fast quad. I'm sorry, just had to get that out. And blackballed, I've been trying extremely hard not to say anything about your superior attitude towards everyone who doesn't fit your idea of a "person with perfect morals", but you know what, not everyone is as wonderful as you, and we're not going to drive ourselves crazy trying to reach your level of greatness. Maybe you should go discuss philosophy with Confucius.

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

Alright, I give up, you win blackballed. No matter what anyone says, you find a way to dispute it........so, you can say whatever you want about me, even though I have said many times that I run a STOCK PIPE that is quiet. Apparently I took NLWarrior's post the wrong way. Sorry for expressing an opinion it won't happen again. Ya'll have fun.

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Posted by: TrailBreaker70

Dang, this thread really shot up since yesterday. Ya'll made some good points. NLWarrior, sorry I jumped on what you said and misinterpreted it.

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man it looks like trailbreaker70 has started a pretty popular topic, and it seems i'm not the only one that has serious neighbor problems

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According to SOME people, extremerider, we don't have problems from our neighbors, apparently WE are actually the problem. If someone gets mad at me for riding up our dirt road once a week going SLOW (by the way this is not a "neighborhood"), then they are just looking for something to complain about.

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Posted by: Coyotechaser

I used to love the exhaust on my Warrior. It made enough noise to stir things up.People are so wrapped up in their own little lives that they think that what they have going on is the only thing going on. I have a woman that keeps bitchen to me because another neighbor drives by her house (with his rincon) and wakes up her baby. Any time of the day, she'll bitch. Another neighbor was shooting off fireworks last night and she said she was ready to go yell at them. She probably talks about me to the other neighbors. Meanwhile her dog gets loose and cruises the neighborhood pissing on everything. She probably doesn't think that anyone dislikes that.
Whenever you have a bunch of self centered people living in a close environment, you'll have conflict because they think you're effecting their harmonious vibe.

Which leads me to my concern. When are they going to require better exhaust on all those noisy MOWERS? Alot more people own mowers, why don't people bitch about them? How many times will my neighbor wake me up on Saturday morning with his loud mower before changes are made? Why just pick on the atv's? Those harleys hogs could use a new muffler too!

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Posted by: Coyotechaser

You don't really have to mow grass. My sister went to Sweden about 15 years ago and she said that they don't mow their lawns over there. Green grass with no weeds is just another phalic symbol. Whoever has the most perfect grass, trimmed so neat and green with no weeds are the special ones. Down with the mowers!
How about "jake brakes"? Now something has to be done about jake brakes! Loudest brakes out there.

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Posted by: Coyotechaser

I've just added wood splitters and chain saws to my list of things that need mufflers. Darn neighbors!

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Posted by: Coyotechaser

I also hate it when the heating oil truck revs really high to pump oil into the neighbors house. Wakes me every time!

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Posted by: Coyotechaser

Jets! Jets! Did you ever hear those things flying overhead? I feel bad for people that live near airports. I live about 1 hour from an airport and I can still hear the jets when they're miles in the sky. Darn jets!

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Posted by: Coyotechaser

Trains! Trains! Now they are loud. My grandparents live next a railroad and the darn trains shake the house everytime they pass. Loud, so loud that you can't even talk when one passes.

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Posted by: Coyotechaser

Bagpipes! Now you can't tell me that bagpipes aren't loud and annoying. Anyone know how to setup a decent muffler on bagpipes? Darn neighbors!

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Posted by: Coyotechaser

It just seems like there are alot of loud annoying sounds out there. But it seems like people complain more about atv's. I think if there are going to be sound limits then make them across the board. Make everything (mowers, jake brakes, chain saws, harleys, etc.) so they are below a certain level. Everything or nothing! Noise levels are just one way to begin to make limitations on atv's. Another way is to get rid of 2 strokes. I understand that boat motors also have to be a 4 stroke. Why don't they get after the people that produce tractor trailers or dump trucks? They can produce trucks that are better for the environment. There are so many more things that need improving than atv's. I know alot of people like race car racing but if they really want to cut down on noise and air polution then make the cars so they get better than a few miles per gallon. How about decreasing the amount of laps so they aren't poluting for as many miles. Noise? Have you been to a car race? Some people will think:"hey leave car racing alone!". I say:"hey leave my atv sport alone". I don't buy into the idea of atv's not being a necessity. One persons necessity is anothers pleasure. People need atv's for hunting (food source), landscaping, farming, yard work, a local boat sales place uses one to move boats around, disabled people use atv's to get around, police use them all around the country, lifeguards use them, and the list could go on. As far as a chain saw or splitter goes, they are not a necessity for millions of people. I use heating oil. There is no reason they could not improve a chain saw so it doesn't make so much noise. I do understand that there are alot of annoying atv's but there are alot of annoying other things too. My point, don't pick and choose. Either limit everything or nothing.

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I've just added wood splitters and chain saws to my list of things that need mufflers. Darn neighbors!

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Coyote,

Do you split wood and run your chain saw to enhance your survival on this planet and/or make a living.........and how does that compare with putting a loud pipe on your atv to go out and "recreate"?

Sounds like one is a necessary evil........while the other is making an evil "necessary" by somebody's selfish and inconsiderate behavior. hr>

Weren't you making a comparison between chain saws as being "necessary" a necessity and atv not being "necessary" first? Lets not forget why people put loud mufflers on in the first place. More power! People don't just change mufflers on sport quads, they change them on utilities too. It's not just to annoy people like you. It's funny how you do like to pick apart peoples messages to make your own message and completely avoid the true meaning of a statement.

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People need atv's for hunting (food source), landscaping, farming, yard work, a local boat sales place uses one to move boats around, disabled people use atv's to get around, police use them all around the country, lifeguards use them, and the list could go on.........

<STRONG>C'mon coyote!..........you aren't actually going to try and confuse the loud pipe issue with some disabled guy running a "stocker"; are you? How could you ever believe that anybody would ever buy into that comparison?
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".... As far as a chain saw or splitter goes, they are not a necessity for millions of people. I use heating oil...."

<STRONG>Good for you..........than what "are" these two pieces of machinery generally used for?........are you going to try and use the same method above and try to convince us all that people go out and process wood for the "fun of it"?
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"....There is no reason they could not improve a chain saw so it doesn't make so much noise...."

<STRONG>Have you heard about the latest 2-stroke engine regulations and just how far they extend to?

</STRONG>"....Either limit everything or nothing....."

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<STRONG>What a great statement to pass down to our young people on just how "simple" our society actually is.

Living by this motto, they can either be a die-hard liberal who wants the government in control of everything............or a bunkered down militia person who's just waiting for the "final showdown" with the government.

<EM>Gosh, it can't be any more complicated than "that".............can it.(?)
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Gosh, it can't be any more complicated than "that"........can it?

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Actually yes, I do know some people that enjoy cutting wood for exercise. Others will clear wooded areas just for the heck of it. Just something to do. Just to make a neat appearance of an area and not for necessity. I'm not just talking about 2 strokes but anything over a certain sound levels.
Yep there are only three types of people out there with these similar opinions, crazy teens, die-hard liberals and militia.
One more point, some might say that an atv muffler should be at a lower sound level because people drive them in areas where wildlife might be. What is the sound level of a skidder or a log truck driving in to pick up the logs?

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NLWarrior01- I don't like the smoke either, I live in a smoke free environment 99.9% of the time. When I am around it then it does bother me. The other day I could smell cig.smoke coming from a car in front of me and it bothered me a little bit because I'm just not ususally around it. Although I don't like it and I also wish they'd move away from the door ways, smoking is an addiction. Some people use it for stress relief and others for enjoyment because that's all they've got. It just seems like one day most everybody smoked everywhere and now they are shunned for it. So I can see their side a little bit although I don't miss the smoke.

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Chainsaw with EFI?

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Popcorn farts! Now they are quiet and weak. Kinda like someones "argument".Any way to power up those popcorn farts? Popcorn farts definitely don't need a muffler! EFI "yes" but a muffler "no".

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4wheelerjunkie- Tell me more about this place called A-R-I-Z-O-N-A. Is it quiet there? Actually I was out there about 22 years ago. Got the worst sunburn of my life there. Spent ALOT of time in the pool. HOT! So... just wondering why you think it's a good place to ride? Quads didn't exist when I was there.

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4wheelerjunkie- You didn't sound like a jerk. It sounded like you enjoyed riding in Arizona. I was just kidding around. I am curious about different states and atv riding in the states. Things like if there is a variation of different riding areas like mountainous, flat, desert, mud, snow, etc... Also if the states are easy going about atv laws, registering, etc...while some states are more strict. I think my ideal town would be like certain islands where everyone drives scooters or golf carts except everyone would be driving quads.

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Posted by: SuzukiZ250Kid

Dang, I'm glad I (my parents and grandparents actually) own 15 acres of land, my neighbor has 5 acres and a dirtbike, and the guy that lives beside him has 2 planes and 4 ultralights, a runway and 10 acres. Betweent the 3 of us we can make more noise than everybody else in this forum combined. The 3 of us are always making noise, so we don't have to worry about pissing each other off.

I'm just not sure how the people that the people that are building a house next to my grandparents are gonna like me zinging by about 20ft away from their kitchen window. My trail was there first, its on our property, and they knew about it, guess its their problem.

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Posted by: SuzukiZ250Kid

Same with me, I'm 15 too, and when I say I have a 4-wheeler people automatically think I'm wreckless and careless and all that. My old neighbor wouldn't let me ride on his land, but he would let the neighbor on the other side of him ride just b/c we was 30 something and I was 13 at the time. And as for the having no brain thing, I can sometimes see why people think that about me I'm not wreckless, I have just done some pretty crazy stuff b/4.

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Posted by: Scootergptx

i wouldn't mind noise compliance so much if the trade off would be public riding places for atv's. however, if i own the property, and the neighbors aren't close (i'm trying to buy 100 acres) then it may get loud. if you don't like the sound of my atv, you sure as he## ain't going to like the sound of my ar, 45, or any of the shotguns you might hear if you bit## too much.

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Posted by: Diablo

Ahhhhh, dejavu!!!! Its been great sitting back and watching this "character" try to push his message, like an after school special gone bad!!! Been through this with him before, nothing you say will get him off his tirade, even when you admit being wrong about something.

First he blames it on us uneducated, lawbreaking, rolemodels gone bad, then it's our "liberal" school systems, and now its "gangsta rap!" OMG!

Coyote- its almost no use replying to him, he gets his jollys from twisting what you say in order to uneffectivly prove his point. I'm right, you're wrong, I'm smart, you're stupid,I'm skinny, you're fat,etc. etc.

Braty- Amen!

Junkie- Keep it up! good stuff!

NLWarrior- thanks for showing people on these forums how someone on here can put thier point across whithout being a complete @sshole to people that don't live within thier own standards. Good points! I wouldn't have admitted being a "lawbreaker," though, you may now be demoted into the "uneducated, lawbreaking, rolemodel gone bad" group!LOL!

Now, my stance on this issue- to me, noise is everywhere, some can be avoided, some not. Having been a teenager once, and been involved in car audio for a long time, I know first hand the repercussions of having a loud system. Before the neighbors started calling the cops on me, I would simply crank it up as I pulled out of the driveway, with no consideration for them. well, a noise ordinance ticket later, I figured it out. I no-longer boomed in my driveway or in residential areas. I wish they would have talked to me instead, I would have respected thier wishes, but oh well. My point, if you have to ride through residential areas, just putt along, you'll still get there, and will keep your neighbors happy.

I now live in the country, and about a stones throw from two sets of railroad tracks. A train comes through about every half hour! Is it annoying to hear thier horn blare in the wee hours of the morning,(especially with a newborn in your home!)? Yes! Is it nesesary? Yes! If thats what it takes to save peoples lives that might cross into thier path, then I'm all for it! you get used to it after a while, I almost start to miss it sometimes! wierd.

to close- try to be respectful of others, if some-one doesn't agree with something you're doing, see if there's a way to compromise? Now I gotta go listen to some gangsta rap yo!!!!!

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Posted by: Diablo

Since you no longer have "proof," I would see if he'll shoot at you again, maybe even try to set up a video camera somewhere. As soon as he does, call the cops, show them the proof, and they will have no other option but to arrest him for assault. If he hits you anywhere on your body, take pictures, and show them as proof as well. Nothing better then some solid evidence! It'll only sting for a while, trust me, I know!!!! My 2 cents.....

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The good thing about nosey neighbors is that nothing ever gets stolen around here, they're always on the watch! Its great! Believe me, my inlaws live nextdoor, talk about nosey!!!

Braty- are you being sarcastic? If the cops haven't been involved, and he hasn't said anything to the sap, then maybe he wouldn't expect it, hey its worth a try!

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I agree, dogs are great insurance when it comes to burglers, but, did I mention I live in the country, where everyone is armed!!! I have 3 dogs, two yappers, and one very big beast. When I lived in the city, there wasn't a soul around that would even think about coming in our yard without being invited. I wouldn't trade any of them for the world.

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Posted by: Diablo

I know they make alarms for motorcycles, so I'm sure someone out there also makes them for quads. I park my quad in the garage, chained, with my Jeep pushed against the grab bar. My Jeep has a Viper alarm with a very sensitive shock sensor, so if the quad moves, the alarm will go off. Add motion lights, my dogs, and my very nosey neighbors, and I'm set!!!LOL!!!

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I rarely use a chainsaw, if a branch needs to come down, I yank it off with the Jeep or quad!!!LOL! I know they make pipes with removeable disks, don't know a whole lot about them, other than being able to take out or put in disks in order to make it quieter when nessesary, or to gain HP when racing. I might look into them.

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Braty- oh, O.K.. Sorry, its hard to tell what someones tone is on the internet sometimes! Retaliation would be nice, and in the heat of the moment, I don't know what I would do if someone was shooting at my kid, hopefully handle it legally!!! As my mom always used to say- " two wrongs don't make a right!" I wish I could live by that on a daily basis! LOL!

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What about red hot popcorn farts? LOL! Those should be a little louder, or at least painful!!!!
Jeez, where has this topic gone????? Oh well!!!

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"Only dumb questions are the ones that are not asked!" I was talking about quad pipes, but I'll look into those shaftsaws!!!LOL!

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Posted by: hotseatperformancefan

sounds like one messed up neighbor. this is what you do when you have troubles with your neighbors. you put the quad somewhere on your property and you just sit there and keep revving it up and keep going and going and going. then eventually after about 30 minutes or however long it takes for one of your neighbors to come out and complain just simply say, "well you told me not to ride in the woods or on the street." plus your on your property so what can they do.

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a bansee isnt that loud stock. get some pipes.

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damn those people on the harleys they dont need their harleys as much as we need our quads. so why care about the noise of our quads? like one person said one time, "loud pipes save lives," or however it goes. i mean as long as your not pissin off people you should be able to have any exaust you want. i agree that some are too loud but the limit should be set at like 98 or something not how low some people were saying!!!

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Posted by: hotseatperformancefan

no i agree we shouldnt ride roads at all. i get mad when kids on those go-peds drive up and down the streets with there loud pipes. im sayin that we should be able to have pipes and be able to ride in the woods but not on roads!! i hate ridin on roads because i no when i drive by someones house im pissing them off!!!

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Posted by: hotseatperformancefan

so what are you saying to do???

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yea exactly sometimes you have to so you gotta, but luckily where i ride the trail starts in my back yard and people from 3 houses down complain. they tell me to stay away from their house so i dont have a problem. but i tell them i gotta go by that way to get home so they will know i do have to go that way. like i said earlier its either that or i sit in my drive way and just keep revving it up until i run out of gas.

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well i guess i am one of them.

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i think he's talking to me. also i think he's a tree hugger.

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kraw i wasnt talking to you i was talking to blackballed. he has a problem with everything.

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and believe me, I am about as far from a tree hugger as you can get. I say, go pipeless with a 2 stroke if you want, just do it in a riding area so I don't have to listen to it

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thats what he said because i said i think he's a tree hugger and i was talking about blackballed.

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Posted by: hotseatperformancefan

look at the post the fifth from the top on the first page read the whole thing. thats what i have been told to do.

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hey the animals might get noisy but you can take care of that no problem.(the shotgun

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Posted by: Shanman73

There are probably sound ordinences that you could take advantage of the next time you hear a booming stereo.

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Posted by: RideRed81

Yeah one of my old neighbors was a big a$$ like that too! It was 1PM and I was loading my quad up to go riding with some friends and he came out bitching up a storm and threatened to call the cops, I told him to kiss my a$$ . The cops showed up and laughed at him, they asked if I was riding it on the street, I told them no. Apparently this clown called them and told them I was riding everywhere on the street, the cops went to a old couple that were sitting on their porch across the street and asked them if I rode on the street and they said no I just brought it out of the backyard and put it right into the truck. The cops then told that guy never to call them with a complaint about my ATV again. I guess he didn't like the sound of my big gun exhaust...lol

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Posted by: NLWarrior01

I'm with Blackballed. Good post brother. If we all just took a second to think about how our actions affect others around us, and then tried to come up with another way to do something to minimize that ... it would be much nicer.

I see they way teens way up here in Newfoundland are behaving compared to when I was their age and it scares me to think of what my own sons (2-1/2 and 5months) are going to be dealing with when they are teens. There seems to be a new age where nobody is given respect; not teachers, not seniors, nobody.

With regards to loud pipes .. my cousin has a c/t (??) pipe for his 250X honda, and the residents of the town where he was riding found it to be too loud (it was pretty loud I must say) so he took it off. It wasn't worth it to him to have everyone pissed off at him for a small performance gain. He is not a racer where he depends on extra power to carry him through .. he just wanted a little more kick, but he realized that his one small gain was to the detriment of many others' peacful surroundings. Basic consideration. He still has the pipe and it's a jiff to install, so if he wanted to put it back on for a blast in a nearby pit, he's well able to, but he just doesn't bother.

For my own ends .. it's illegal to ride on the streets in my town, but if I don't, I have to load and go with the truck. I carry liability insurance on my quad and even though it has a "performance" pipe, it's not loud if you're just putting along, which is what I do when in residential areas. Once I'm away from there .. givver hell!! And I always wear a helmet when riding. It just doesn't make sense not to wear one.

There are lots of "punks" around here too that don't give basic consideration to trail walkers and other riders. They are not all teens either .. there are some that are well into their late 20's and mid 30's even. They refuse to slow down when passing pedestrians and other atv'ers, flinging dust and rocks wherever they go. I'd like to see those people banned from ATV'ing until they learn some common decency.

Anyhoo .. that's my rant.

Peace out guys and try to enjoy life ...

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Apparently I took NLWarrior's post the wrong way. Sorry for expressing an opinion it won't happen again. Ya'll have fun.

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Don't worry about it TB .. it was my mistake to use a general term "Teens". That's not correct because a lot of the a$$holes I see around are 20+. It just seems younger people in general these days (I'm not old myself at 33) don't seem to have any respect for anyone or anything.

Vandalism is at an all time high around here, booming stereos in cars, those dang rice rockets with the kazoos on em .. it just seems everyone is looking out for #1 and $crew the rest of the world. It's getting worse on an anual basis and I fear for the world that My children are inheriting.

I have to admit that I look at younger people with their hats on backwards and droopy drawers with more than a little skeptisism (spelling??), but I don't voice the opinion out loud. The few times I've actually spoken to such individuals they certainly seem nice enough .. just a perception I guess.

What bugs me more than anything else talked about in this forum, and it's a much more serious issue than loud pipes and booming stereos which do little more than disturb the peace, is smoking outside of public buildings such as malls, hospitals, offices .. kids and adults alike stand around right in front of the entrances puffing away forcing their nasty foul smoke on others entering and exiting the buildings ... I just think that's so extremely rude and in considerate. If you're outside anyway .. move away from the entrance !!

We all do things we shouldn't .. we just need to step back from time to time and ask "what am I really accomplishing here?" I ride on the roads pretty much whenever I got 4wheeling .. this is because I have to do that, or truck my quad off somewhere and dump it. It's much easier to put down the road. I'm not hurting anyone by doing so, though I am breaking laws. It's the idiots (again, not just young people) who blaze up the road in the dark with no lights on that worry me. Not even so much for the noise aspect, but it's just a matter of time before someone pulls out of their driveway and gets into a collision with the atv riders.

Cyotechaser .. I feel for you having such rude neighbors but remember .. two wrongs don't make a right. Sometimes though, you gotta take a stand and put an a$$hole in his/her place. You can only cooperate so much. What's fair is fair, if you neighbor wants you to cut your noise, then they should be prepared to cut theirs too.

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It just seems like one day most everybody smoked everywhere and now they are shunned for it. So I can see their side a little bit although I don't miss the smoke.

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That is true .. terrible crutch to have though ain't it? I've never smoked so I won't bash anyone for not quitting. I've heard that it can be horribly tough to get away from it. What I really don't like about it is there is no easy solution for it. You're stepping on their liberties by banning it all over the place, and they're stepping on yours for taking away a "clean" atmosphere. It would be great if they would all wear smoke eaters or something ... that way they could enjoy their smoke without poisoning the rest of us. That's a little hypocritical I know, since exhaust gasses from my car, truck, ATV and oh yesss .. my Chainsaw (extra loud model just for you cyote are poisoning the atmosphere as well ... but the car and the truck at least are more or less necessary .. atv & chainsaw poloution are legit claims as I could stop using the atv .. and use a hand saw instead of the chainsaw .. I've only actually used the chainsaw twice though .. i'm pretty safe in that area!!

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Posted by: Braty

After 8a.m......before 9p.m....nieghbors don't like it? They can move.
I do think the exception is any home that may have a new born...a little respect goes a long way.

Too bad communication is no longer an option in our society......a sincere request might get the noise to stop if it is a legitimate request.

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After 8a.m......before 9p.m....nieghbors don't like it? They can move.

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oh, and these are "THE" rules, or just yours? What about people who work overnight for a living and have to sleep during the day, is it ok for them to ride their bikes at night, on their off time? Just because you are sleeping, that means nothing, right?

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Kraw, maybe you should read my whold post before jumping too high. I said there are exceptions and that a sincere request goes a long way. If I am out on a Sat. morning with my quad and my nieghbors are up and their day has begun, or it is 5p.m. on a Wednesday and they are making dinner or whatever, and they are unhappy with the noise I am making...they can kiss my a**. Now , if I have a nieghbor who I know sleeps during the day...or a nieghbor with a baby who sleeps all day, I am not going to be bit*c and play. I do have respect for others. It is the lonely, sad, unhappy people who like to complain because they have nothing better to do who can move if they don't like it.

Have a nice day!

Oh, and by the way...I spent three years working a grave night shift, so my bed time was 5a.m.....and I did deal with a lot of noise from nieghbors who did not give a damn!I survived!

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Blackballed.....got any advice on the ozone? What are your views on religion....anymore on politics? I am not quit sure we all got your opinion on all world affairs. Maybe we should give you your own forum. We all hear you...maybe people would respect your word more if you weren't so self righteous. So get off your high horse..have some fun and join us in the mud!

Piece of advice...if you are trying to preach the "right thing" to the young...don't be so long winded...they stop listening after the first few seconds.

Ride on!

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Since you no longer have "proof," I would see if he'll shoot at you again, maybe even try to set up a video camera somewhere. As soon as he does, call the cops, show them the proof, and they will have no other option but to arrest him for assault. If he hits you anywhere on your body, take pictures, and show them as proof as well. Nothing better then some solid evidence! It'll only sting for a while, trust me, I know!!!! My 2 cents.....[/q

Smart advice...I am sure he won't be expecting it!

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hey the animals might get noisy but you can take care of that no problem.(the shotgun

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Heat up the grill!!!!!

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The good thing about nosey neighbors is that nothing ever gets stolen around here, they're always on the watch! Its great! Believe me, my inlaws live nextdoor, talk about nosey!!!

Braty- are you being sarcastic? If the cops haven't been involved, and he hasn't said anything to the sap, then maybe he wouldn't expect it, hey its worth a try!

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No, I was not being sarcastic...I am sure he does not think a young kid would call the cops, much less try to obtain evidence of his ignorance in using his paintball gun.

It's fun to get even...the old fashioned way, but that just invites retaliation. Have something to hold over his head that will prove he is an *ss to the authorities and he may just quit his crap.

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Braty- oh, O.K.. Sorry, its hard to tell what someones tone is on the internet sometimes! Retaliation would be nice, and in the heat of the moment, I don't know what I would do if someone was shooting at my kid, hopefully handle it legally!!! As my mom always used to say- " two wrongs don't make a right!" I wish I could live by that on a daily basis! LOL!

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But two wrongs make it funny! hahaha j/k!

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man it looks like trailbreaker70 has started a pretty popular topic, and it seems i'm not the only one that has serious neighbor problems

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We innocent atv'rs are the sad minority of good citizens left in this country.
Bless all you quaders!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Popcorn farts! Now they are quiet and weak. Kinda like someones "argument".Any way to power up those popcorn farts? Popcorn farts definitely don't need a muffler! EFI "yes" but a muffler "no". hr>

Coyotechaser....don't forget the beer belly eructate! Some of you guys can break an eardrum...and a few records!!

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Posted by: quadracerkid

Ok, In Mass between dusk and dawn your nieghbors have no effect on what you do on your land. You can cross roads on an OMV if you are 16 1/2 yrs or older, and you have to stay 150 from someones home.

I say, if you got cool neighbors, be nice to them, their hard to fine. If your nieghbor is a major dick, ride when ever.

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Posted by: AKracer

aaah good topic. Im 15 years old and I often times TRY to ride on my road, but neighbors always come over and complain to my dad. I have a piped 2 stroke by the way, so its pretty loud. But before you think im a kid that races around the streets, read on. The neighbors on the left of me have dogs that bark constantly. Every night i try to sleep, i hear those dogs barking and barking. Then she has the nerve to come over and complain. Now the neighbors on the right have 9 kids (seriously) and the oldest one is like 14. They are always outside shouting and screaming. They wake up at like 5:00 am and they wake us all up. Now the neighbors 2 houses down to the right of us, they have a retarded rooster that they enter in fairs to win prizes, BUT it constantly makes noise, all hoursof the day, not just in the morning. PLUS, they have a 17 year old kid that has friends with rice rocket cars that race up and down the road. Every time his parents are gone he has parties with loud music and people shouting and such. Now, i live on the dirt road, and there are other dirt roads around here i ride on, but when im riding i drive slow, i dont go racing around, im just out slow but having fun. They also say i make too much dust but cars around here are always speeding around and kicking up WAY more dust then me. These 3 neighbors always complain, but my dad tells me to ignore them because they make more noise then me, so thats what i do, ignore them. They have not called the cops yet but the day they do ill just tell him the noise they all make. ok, im done typing. sorry if there are typing errors but i dont feel like reading it all.

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Posted by: AKracer

LOL, yea thats what my dad says. He says that people see me, a teenager on a 4 wheeler and automatically think im causing trouble. yea, when i read your story i thought it sounded a lot like mine.

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LOL, thanks guys

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Posted by: ArchFire

Yea it has happend to me once but i dident care if ya have a helmet on and not on a main road cops wont care,, this guy called the cops on me and a friend from rideing Atv's in front of my house and cops said its ok as long as you stay off main roads, so i said "ok" then when he left i whent infront of the guys house who called the cops on me, and burned out infront of his house but on the street then nothing else happend so the point here is dont care what other people think if your rideing they dont have a ATV so they dont know how fun it is haha later...

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Sweeeeet.

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Thats great now my Warrior dont work anymore HELP!!

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Here's a guy with a loud Harley........a kid with a loud stereo...........and what do "we" as responsible members of the atving community tend to do?...........why, go out and get a loud pipe that exceeds the very same sound limit!!!

Where does it stop?

Are folks out there trying to say that "we" should somehow be considered any less ignorant than the people we are complaining about?

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Ah... sweet revenge makes it all worth while

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Posted by: 4wheelerjunkie

well heres my deal i got a couple acres surroundin me and i like to ride down the road at 70mph on my piped blaster at around 2:00a.m. along with my ford tractor at about 2:30a.m. then i luv to grab my system and strap it onto the 4wheeler and drive recklessly in the yard with the system cranked as loud as it will go this is at about 3:00a.m. then i like to go get my polaris diesel and put it in nuetral and just rev it as about as loud as it goes this is at like 3:30a.m.....then at about 4:00a.m. ill grab my semi and drive up rev it as loud as it will go! and blow the air horn!!..... o then this is my favorite thing to do i take all of my machines and line them around the house im talkin (3 tractors , backhoe, f-350, f150, piped blaster, diesel polaris, a couple table saws, huge system, crankin, a couple roosters, 10 dogs, 8 cats, a gallon of piss, airplanes helicoptors, semitruck,and an lowrider with the bass playin!!!!!) then i go crazy with em!!!.......about this time i was takin to the phsche ward for mental health problems and disturbing my neighbors while they were away for a weekend about 200miles away!!!....lmfao hahahahaha i just thought ide bring some laughs for myself into this depressing forum i feel for all you guys just keep livin by the books and nothin can go wrong unless its in a american subdivision!! then your screwed and i really feel for ya....good luck with all of your neighbors guys i hope you can get everything under control!!

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Posted by: 4wheelerjunkie

blackballed what exactly do you do for a living i could not imagine you in reall life, also where do you live? it cant be in the united states and if you do what country are you from??...i ask this because you are very different from all the other users here and your acting like martin luther king jr. preachin about how we should start a revolution for good deeds and obeying laws....also i dont think it matters how good example you are to your kids if they go to any school there gonna get the same thing from other kids, especially public!!.....i think the only way to make blackballed happy is to not have any kids so that way we cant be a bad example to them...am i right? .....blackballed you need to chill out with this revolution or w/e your trying to start and step into reality!!if your tryin to teach us morals go to some other forum and tell everyone how dumb they are for not wearing helmets or anything to protect their head...actually!!!...why dont you go into a harley forum or a hells angels forum and tell them how good helmets are and that your from the devil if you dont wear one!!!....i wanna hear the reaction to it!!....i think you like to stir up things for enjoyment and, i gotta give it to you u made me type this long ass post besides i think that you need a mixture of good and bad inorder to get through life.....you should run for governer and see what happens to the state...... it would not be a good outcome!!

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Posted by: 4wheelerjunkie

blackballed how did you know a was a ignorant teen? You sure are smart blackballed!! I personally think you should start working for a news station or a newspaper..because it seems that you sure do like to twist what other people say into something thats easier for you to understand...WORD FOR WORD!!.....now im gonna tell you truth im 15 years old and im not gonna lie and say ive never tresspassed or ive never rode down a road much faster than i should of but listen i really dont care what anyone else thinks of me i live in the middle of knowhere and i dont think i could of been a bad influence to anyone....you need to take the tampon out of your ass and start thinking about how many kids 10 and under are actually on this site i could not imagine very many and if you think that this is outragous maybe you need to contact the admin's and tell them to put adult content on diff. threads so maybe it would make you happy...i dont even see how you can participate in the www. without freakin i mean do you know how much insane **** is on it?..... now i am im going to criticize the public school system if i want to because what good have they done to the american people besides give them ideas that were already thought of by other people...they read straight out of the books...also books? cmon give me a break books should be long gone by now its been about 20 years since the invention of the computer and i think the school systems are going to need to update there little system a little better...its also corrupt!!!!....i mean cmon i live about 20 miles from a city called E. St. Louis it is a ghetto and they are building a 40.5 mil. dollar school there...except for the fact that the kids that live in the area are burning it down faster than they can build it up!!!...thats insane!!....you must also remember that i live in the "United States of America" also and i do have my right right to freedom of speech meaning that i can say w/e i damn well plz. as long as it does not hurn anyone..do you understand that concept? or have you forgotten it i hope you twist around my words somemore so that there fit for you to give me a good come back!!....it would just be easier if you just shut you mouth and didnt say anything and then there would be no arguing and we could all get along...but im not stoppin you just givin a opinion like you always like to do along with me and many other people but were expressing are right and i dont see a problem with that do you?

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Posted by: 4wheelerjunkie

o ya and the ignorant teen also has one more thing to say i really dont care if >>I LIVE IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!<< as long as I got my quad im happy and if you care if i do >>LIVE IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!<< your gonna need phschiatric help like me you sure are fun to argue with blackballed...lol

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Posted by: 4wheelerjunkie

i feel for you coyotechaser where do you live with all these crazy people i mean bagpipes? my god thats craziness right there lol i figured out how to avoid these problems i have had lately with my neihbors piped dirt bikes....i made a investment and bought me a pair of earplugs it puts me right back to sleep....im more worried about my alarm makin noise than anything else though i never wanna get up!! lol hope you find a silencer for them bagpipes!!

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Posted by: 4wheelerjunkie

lol...its them damned crickets thats what it is and there hard to shoot too!!....so are them tree frogs...you cant even see them damned frogs.....but i live with it i think noise is sometimes overrated though...like i mean a cricket in my room is probably just as loud as many other things but i mean can i call the cops on a cricket obviously i can but i might be takin somewhere for my problem.....out here in the country noise is no matter really knowone complains to anyone cause we all make same amount of noise i sleep about 10 feet from a railroad track when i go deer hunting and the ground will shake when it goes by but im such a hard sleeper i dont even wake up....so i guess im blessed...lol...good luck extreme rider...and that was good advice diablo i would of said same thing make a double of that tape too and sent it into funniest home videos maybe youll win some cash too!!...lol

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Posted by: 4wheelerjunkie

very true diablo but we have dogs....release the hounds!!!....7 german shepards will do better than any neighbor would lol ive heard of this new thing there putting on a 4wheeler theve put it on roadbikes it works by whenver the key is turned off the wheels lock up to where they wont roll and the front wheels wont turn anyway so if the wheels would already be turned and the people tried to hotwire they would just go in circles this is mainly utility atv's though i dont think thell put them on a sport but it sounds like a good antitheft idea!!!

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Posted by: 4wheelerjunkie

ya i live in the country too and everyone is armed here too!! lol....even me....but still knowone even thinks about comin close to are yard they would need a sniper rifle to pick them off soooo i dont know if anyone has a sniper rifle around here but if they do we still got a alarm system...lol im prepared for intruders but i agree dogs are ex-c-lent insurance i wouldnt trade them for the world i luv em...but what do you think of that antitheft system on the quads?

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Posted by: 4wheelerjunkie

if anyone knows anymore about the security system let us know!!

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Posted by: 4wheelerjunkie

nice!!...i meant stock quads though like in 2 years are gonna have them but uhhh back to subject at hand lol....this is crazy everyone is telling me you cant get more power without the noise from the pipes im like wtf...there tellin me they can make metal that can go to mars and back without any problems and make cars with mufflers that are unbelievably cool sounding while still giving it more hp but noooooooooo
nothing for atv's this is unbelievable.....if someone would just make a quite pipe that would give them more hp they would be the best selling pipe out there i garuntee it....ill get off the band wagon....and ill simmer down now!!!!!!!!! lol i was lookin on the net and i saw a baffler for a chainsaw!!!! lol the only thing i wanna know is when are they gonna start makin them chainsaws shaft driven? lol j/k "shaftsaws!!!" lol

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Posted by: 4wheelerjunkie

hello blackballs, ya sorry bout that post about the space shuttle i guess it didnt make no sense did it? well i meant metal on the space shuttle not the entire thing and if you dont think weve been to mars where have you been? Im not talkin like actual people i mean rocket ships and those little badass atv like things that can crawl over anything i want one of them in my remote control car section!!....lol, it sure is a popular topic though, i think a part of a state kinda has already been givin to atv'rs its called arizona you can do anything on a atv there its neat..... o ya and with the disks that slide in and out diablo?, where you talking about the shaftsaw or the atv pipe? lol...sorry for dumb question

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Posted by: 4wheelerjunkie

lol, sorry if i sounded like a jerk when i said that it wasnt meant like that, but i mean not the entire state obviously is atv land but when i was there i could ride anywhere a guy i know that lives down there has 3 houses and there each about 60 miles apart so we can ride from his one house to his other house.....its dangerous out there though cause if you get lost i mean you get "lost!!" sometimes your run into some animal fences but all you have to do is get off open it ride though get off and close it and the guy wont care at all but if people start leaving his gate open he wont let anyone ride through anymore if you ride north from phoenix you can ride into the mountains....there really is no trail though its just open and you can go anywhere cool place!! and yes it is quite outside of towns lol

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Posted by: 4wheelerjunkie

its cool blackballed...im glad we came to agreement ....but arizona is a mixture of everything, sand, mud, rocks, snow!!, water, everything....thanx to the rockies!!....utah is suposed to be another good place to ride but ive never been there so if anyone ever been there...is it a good place?...another thing is George W. Bush has opened up yellowstone park for the snowmobilers again!!...everything clinton did he erased it! I also here that he is going to open up more atv parks and make it legal to ride in national parks!....this is very strange but i think some people are going to take advantage of this and just wreck the park never good but idk if hell follow through anyway...i wont take it personally either blackballed.

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Posted by: extremerider2811

yeah we have retarded neighbors, they call the cops for anything, and one time me and my friends were riding in our yard and he pulled a paintball gun out a shot at us, i should of went and got my paintball gun but two wrongs don't make a right, what should i do about this b/c this neigbor is a good guy to cops so cops will believe him if he says he didn't shoot at us, and the marks on our atvs came off when we washed our quads


but i don't know, i should like go over there and yell at them

what do you all think?


yeah thanks

later

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Posted by: extremerider2811

man it looks like trailbreaker70 has started a pretty popular topic, and it seems i'm not the only one that has serious neighbor problems

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Posted by: extremerider2811

right on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my neighbors are fat,, there last names are lopnow, and i should call them from now on fatnow, first, they don't know how to cut their grass, about 3 years ago they backed into their ditch in the middle of day light, and then ha they called the cops of us from a piece of garbage that came from them, (it was a viagra bottle)


strange people i tell you, all in favor of making a state only for atv's (like take a chunk out of a state) if it were possible say I!

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Posted by: extremerider2811

lol....

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