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Posted by: BLH
what about the Yamaha Breeze?
Posted by: ftwflh
I had the very same list when i was looking for my sons next atv.Igot a new Yamaha 125 Breeze it has lights, automatic,reverse,and more power than he needs.Only thing i am going to have to change is the rear tires they come with knobbys that arent good on trails. ----------------Brad -----1996 425 Magnum 4x4 Polaris-------1996 400 Sportsman Polaris 4x4-----------2001 125 Breeze(sons)
Posted by: ftwflh
Bakerboy i made my sons throttle easier by fabricating a longer extension and bent it to the shape fotr his thumb.putt it on with a small hose clamp and black tape.made a lot of differance .
Posted by: cc1999
the only bike that i could find that had somthing besides adult size controls was the suzuki LT50. my 6 year old is one the biggest kids in here class and I was amazed at when I bought my grizz I told the guy I would take a breeze with it. when I got there I quickly found out she could not work any of the adult sized controls. So I desided to wait on the raptor 80 it just came out and Its controls were still to big for here. So I gave in bought a new LT50 suzuki I hate pull starting and helping here back it up but It was realy the only bike that I found that she realy fits. I still plan to get here something like the breeze when she can reach the controls and work them, that might be a wile maybe when she's 9 or 10 .
Posted by: mudcat47537
My son rode a Breeze for 4 years 6-10. I would highly recomend this quad for some kid that allready has some experience. They are very durable, have a low center of gravity, reverse, 4 stroke, electric start. He went on rides with grown men and took that thing where they couldn't go on a 4x4. It will float if you stay to the rear to ballance it out. He never came close to flipping it while climbing hills. He did turn it over while doing doughnuts and caught traction.
I have a nephew that just got a Arctic Cat 90 these are a nice made quad too. They will be coming out with a light for them soon, they are pre wired for it. Nice suspencion with a 60 pound kid on it, small controls, snorkle air intake under the seat, brake light, easy to remove seat, great sounding exhaust.
The kaseas that I know about seem to be needing repair more than they get rode. I have an eton 50 for my daughter I have not had any problems out of it yet but she just rides around the farm. But they are not made as well as the AC. But I may be biased here. If you take care of kid quads they sell for about what you give for them anyway, and easy to get rid of.
Posted by: LT80
the reverse will be a tough find prolly,but finding one out there with a suspention that works is equally if not harder to find.It seems to me that the current 50/90cc machines put out by kasea,husky,polaris,etc. have shocks to make the parent happy, as some parents feel that there is shocks they must work, but I've found that it takes every bit of me and me big belly to compress the shocks any, thus worthless in my oppinion.
the trx-90 is a good putt if ya put some works shocks on em good luck
Posted by: Cummins
I have been looking for something like that too. I found one the other day can't remember for sure but it was either a e-ton or t-rex 90cc with reverse. I'm not sure about the suspension part. I think they were on E-bay or traderonline, not sure again. Man there is a lot of different manufactures of these mini-quads. I would sure like to have the reverse on it though. I can see the danger in a youngster backing one up, but 200+lbs vs 60lb kid tells me there will be times when he can't push it back. If I find them again I'll let you know, something is telling me it was a T-REX.I'm curious of the quality and reliability of the 90cc machines from E-TON, T-REX AND POLARIS. Looks as though I see a bunch of people on here that have E-TONS. Maybe I need to post new topic on my many questions?
Posted by: Cummins
Here is the mini quad I was thinking about.INFO ON MINI-QUAD
, although it is a 2-stroke. I didn't include the breeze, Suzuki mostly cause of there price. They seem high to me, but I haven't looked into this very much yet. But sometime between now and 8-months I hope to have something for my son. Thanks for the input and if there is any more opinions keep'em coming
Posted by: Cummins
Tony G, just curious why you want something else? I know about the reverse and agree there. 4-stroke will be harder to find cause it drives up the price a bit more. 2-strokes are cheap($) power in my opinion.
Posted by: Cummins
Thanks TonyG, Thanks for replying. Sorry it took me so long to reply, been a crazy week. I didn't realize that the suspension on those things could be so bad. I was curious, cause I was looking at the polaris 90cc sportsman that I'm sure uses the same frame. Yes I haft to agree with you on the reverse, lights and suspension. Thanks Again
Posted by: TonyG
Currently we have a 00' Polaris Scrambler 90cc. I'm looking for a quad for my 7 year old and it has to have the following:
Suspension...one that actually works with a 60lb. kid.
4 stroke...
headlight...
reverse...
90/150cc's...
auto...
If anyone has any ideas, please let me know!
Thanks,
Tony
Posted by: TonyG
Cummins,
Just being picky I guess...I would choose a 4 over a 2 stroke just to get away from the large cloud of smoke on start up. Again just being picky... the light which I can remedy, suspension and reverse are what really are important to me. This will just make it more enjoyable for my son, and safer!
Reverse...well that can have a limiter just like other bikes and won't requirer him to get off the quad as often.
The light... well he is "never" allowed on the bike without mom or dad, and with daylight at a premium this time of year (5:30, pitch black), the light will increase our riding time until we decide to come home. Again, this we could fix.
Suspension... alright he's seven years old and 55 lb's... and some may say he to young and therefor should not be on it anyway! Well, that depends on your child's ability, fact is alot of us have our kid's riding these things and it comes down to proper instruction and a throttle stop!
OK, I'm rambling here...bottom line is a adjustable suspension that will work with a 50 pounder all the way up to say a 100+ pound would be flexable enough for them to safely use the quad and flexable enough to last through some years to come of safe-quality riding! Every manufacturer has missed this area in particular by a mile!!!
Tony
Posted by: TonyG
raptor720,
Thanks alot, that was informative and I'll take a look at Kasea's...
Tony
Posted by: raptor720
The guy selling the mini's on Ebay is not being truthful when he calls them Kasea 4 strokes. In truth, Kasea made some 4 strokes but decided that they were not good enough to market. The guy on ebay bought a container full and breached a promise to sell them only out of the USA. Now Kasea is getting a bad rap for those 4 stroke mini's.
When you compare mini's, note that the Kasea is the only youth atv that has real rebound dampening shocks, a real rear axle, a 80 watt lighting coil, better looking plastic, and the strongest front suspension of all the minis (same as the LT80 design).
T-Rex, Extreme Machine, Eton, Polaris, Aeon, Blazer, etc. all use inferior front suspension, cheap shocks, a silly rear axle design, weak rear swing arms, and some do not have any lighting coil built in.
When you want it fast, I have the performance parts that will make it smoke a Blaster, etc.
Posted by: raptor720
Baby Raptor "Raptorette" is a Badger in new plastic. In my opinion it is great until you look beyond the plastic. You will find the same junk front box beam suspension, low performance 4 stroke engine, excessive weight, poor quality shocks, etc.
On the Breeze, it is a large heavy atv that should never be ridden you a young kid. Once it starts to tip, it is all over for the rider. It is much better used as a farm transportation vehicle.
Posted by: raptor720
Come on guys, he is asking for help with a quad for a 7 year old girl. We don't need a 400 pound Nitrous powered dragster here.
I would say the Kasea is the way to go. Kasea is the best looking and best performing youth atv on the market. Currently 50 and 90cc atv&39;s s are marketed by Suzuki, Eton, Polairs, Aeon, Sundiro, T-Rex, Jehm, Kasea, Husky, Artic Cat, ExtremeMachine, LEM and other manufacturers. Of the many atv manufacturers, Kasea offers features that go beyond the “other guys.”
Virtually all of the youth atv&39;s are equipped with fully automatic CVT transmissions and a 2 stroke oil injected engine, the features that make Kasea superior to other youth atv&39;s begin here:
Front suspension
The Kasea front suspension is much stronger than that of Eton, Polairs, Aeon, Sundiro, Jehm, Husky, Artic Cat, ExtremeMachine and LEM. The Kasea uses a double clevis style knuckle holder rather than the more common single holder. I believe that only Suzuki uses the same strong design as Kasea on the front suspension a-arms. For racing, I have almost got some production of chromemoly a-arms for the Kasea that will be awsome.
Rear suspension
The Kasea has the strongest youth atv rear swing arm and axle design on the market. It is a copy of the trusted design used by Yamaha on their performance atv&39;s since the early 1980&39;s. No other youth atv has this strong of a rear suspension – it is simply the best. Many of the other youth atv&39;s don&39;t even offer a true sport atv style rear axle. We have found most youth atv&39;s have a rear axle that is a small metal shaft covered with tubing. Not only is the tube covered design weaker, it allows water to easily enter the carrier bearing area. Worse yet, some other youth atv&39;s such as the Suzuki Lt-80 and an Eton atv model do not even use a traditional rear swing arm. They elected to make the engine and transmission serve as the rear swing arm. The Suzuki and Eton design causes handling problems and is very difficult to modify for increased performance.
Shock absorbers
Kasea built their atv&39;s with true rebound dampening Showa shocks that also feature compression preload spring adjusters. No other youth atv on the market offers rebound dampening on their atv&39;s – not even Suzuki. This is a very important safety feature that is often overlooked. When the Kasea is ridden over a large sudden bump, the rebound dampening helps prevent the atv from “bucking” forward as the shock returns to its normal height.
Braking system
Kasea offers a traditional rear foot brake in addition to the front hand brake. This will allow your young rider to learn the proper use of hand and foot controls so they will be ready to advance to a full size atv with a manual clutch without relearning their riding technique.
Optional lighting
I believe that only the Kasea is equipped with a 80watt lighting coil and is pre-wired for lighting from the factory. All you need to do is purchase the Kasea lighting set that is found as standard equipment on the Kasea 150 atv or simply mount your own lights to the existing wiring. The key switch uses a third position to turn on the lights. Kasea even pre wired for a rear safety light and lighting for your whip antenna. No other youth atv on the market has this much lighting capability. If you want to add lighting to the Suzuki LT80, you will need a special electrical stator and wiring at a substantial cost. LT80 lighting kits that run off the battery only will result in a dead battery and a long walk home.
Starting
Kasea, like most other youth atv&39;s, offers electric starting with a manual back up kick starter and a fully automatic choke. Kasea studied the other atv&39;s and took the ease of starting one step further. They added an automatic fuel valve. When the engine starts, the fuel is automatically turned on. When the engine stops, the fuel is automatically shut off. In comparison, the Suzuki and LEM have manual chokes and all other youth atv&39;s have manual fuel valves. We also note that if you want to add a manual back up starter to the Suzuki, it is a pull rope recoil starter that will cost an additional $80. In the unlikely event that you ever need a replacement electric starter for the Kasea, it will cost about $50 and can be installed in 5 minutes. The Suzuki starter costs about $250 and will require hours of labor to complete the installation.
Rim sizes
Here, you can easily install replacement rims of your choice! The front hubs use the common 4/110 bolt pattern and the rear uses the common 4/100 bolt pattern.
General Parts
Since most of the youth atv engines are similar, finding parts is usually not a problem. If you need basic gaskets, air filters, batteries, spark plugs, chain, tires or some engine components, the Eton, Polairs, Aeon, Sundiro, T-Rex, Jehm, ExtremeMachine or Kasea will interchange.
Performance
From an aftermarket standpoint, I have developed many performance modifications for the youth atv. As your child grows, so will his/her ability to control more power. Instead of placing your child on a larger atv that can be dangerous for a younger rider to properly control, modifying a youth atv will provide the challenge that your child desires.
I have large bore cylinders that can be sent with custom cylinder porting, custom billet aluminum cylinder heads and extruded cylinder heads, special over range transmissions, custom exhaust systems, performance carburetors, lighting kits, ignition systems, extended swing arms, wider a-arms, shock absorber kits and various tire and rim options.
Posted by: raptor720
just trying to post a pix of the Kasea
Any help would be appreciated. Click on link to see a pix of a Kasea in full race dress. Open it using the NetExplorer option
Posted by: raptor720
cc
look at the Kasea levers. They are smaller and you can easily set them up so that the pull is closer to the grip.
By the way, make sure your new LT50 has the correction to the rear end. There was a national recall on them about a month ago.
Posted by: raptor720
Funny thought on the Eton and the Artic Cat. They both have the same suspension weak suspension.
By the way, what repairs have you heard the Kasea's needing more than the other atv's?
Posted by: Bakerboyz
Most all the mini quads are lacking in suspention.
That one on ebay has the familiar 2" of travel suspension.
We have a 90cc Sundiro. For the price we paid I will not complain. But also will not expect alot from it.
If your search leads you to the $2K+ range I'd consider the Kawasaki Bayou 220. It's a real quad with real suspension, shaft drive, reverse, auto clutch. The're on sale all over for $2500. Put it in second gear and the little one can enjoy it like an automatic. You can ride it too.
Good luck
Posted by: Bakerboyz
We should all email the forum adminastrator to add MINI's to the Brand Forums
Posted by: Bakerboyz
Is there any way to make the thumb throttle easier on the hand?
On long rides It can really fatigue the thumb.
Posted by: 3FORME
What about the "baby" Raptor
