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Posted by: philzie
Definately call your credit card company right away. They ~should~ help.
Posted by: RoostKing
He did call his company "Last Rebel Racing". Guess this last rebel ran his last race and FIRST scam...
RoostKing...
Posted by: RoostKing
SOunds like quadgirlie knows these jokers... Why not give the people the address/phone of Erik or Kip so they can talk to them face to face. I dont see why you are defending these guys, they have ripped off more than a few people on this board and probably many others around the country. So what do you say? Give up the goods QuadGirlie...
RoostKing...
Posted by: RoostKing
QuadGirlie,
A disconnected line means you cant get ahold of Kip either! So those who have been ripped off by LRR are going after the one who they seem to be able to get some sort of response from, namely Eric Cobb.
Everbody have a good weekend of riding,
RoostKing
Posted by: JD250R
Your not the only one they screwed. I order a sponsership kit back in May 1998. I only recieved a seat cover and was charged $175. Good luck on getting your money back.
Posted by: b370
From what I have heard...... Eric Cobb now works for Trinity racing and Kip Is trying to open a new place. I dont know if he went Chapter 11 or just closed his doors. Its too bad because it doesnt make our sport look good when you have someone outright screwing people. The credit card companies have to get involved if you decide to cancel a charge.
good luck everyone
walter
88Banshee370-connecticut
95 Dodge Ram
99Quadbuddy
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Posted by: BlackHawk
How many people in this world COULD have the e-mail address Quadcobb@aol.com. I think the fact he does have that e-mail address alone lends to the authenticity factor. That statement looked pretty sincere to me. I never bought anything from LRR, so I didn't loose any money from that event. I have had my car broke into, in my freaking driveway, so I know well what it's like to have something stolen/taken. But if I were you, I'd ask the CC companies if they can do anything, if not... then go with the best thing you've got, the seemingly sincere apologies of someone who had at one point been associated with the company who wronged you, and also note that he is detaching himself as much as possible from that wrong doing.
Posted by: RickD
I ordered Full Bore plastic for my son's Banshee last August. Last Rebel Racing billed my credit card in September. After repeated phone calls when they promised me it was being shipped, I just found out their phone is disconnected and they are out of business -- with my money!
Have any of you had similar problems with Last Rebel (or should I say my lost rubles!) or have any ideas on any recourse? They were a company out of Crestline, CA.
Posted by: RickD
The VISA company wasn't able to help us out because they said the charge was over 60 days old. LRR knew to string us along through the holidays so we couldn't get our money back. What jerks. They should be strung up by their toenails -- or something else!
They sure are a disservice to the industry.
Posted by: atvbbs
this topic has degraded to bickering, it is being locked
Posted by: Raychalp
Thankfully, I have never had any dealings with Last Rebel Racing. I feel truly sorry for you guys that got ripped off. However, you really need to take your complaints to areas beyond the scope of this message board. By this I mean writing to magazines like Dirt Wheels, 4 Wheel Action, and ATV Sport. You all have legitimate arguments and they should be heard by all so write into those magazines. It seems that they always print these types of letters so that all readers can be forewarned. Unfortunately, for you all that got the shaft it is too late and thank god that LRR is already out of business but the warning to really watch out would be nice. It is unfortunate that the industry which is booming right now had to come to this. Also, don't be so quick to accept the apology of Erik Cobb. It may be genuine but I am a little skeptic myself. Someone that has been in the business that long could not be so naive as to overlook the shortcomings of a company that he was a very large part of. I am not sure what other actions can be taken beyond making a few phone calls to credit card companies, but you can definitely prove the credibility of those individuals that ripped you off by spreading the word in the ATV community.
Posted by: Raychalp
By the way, I just checked on Erik Cobb and he was the Vice President of Last Rebel Racing. I find it very hard to believe that someone that high up in the chain had no idea of the wrongdoings that were occuring.
Posted by: kevhog
Does anybody belive this Cobb? I don't! He's as big as fraud as the rest of those crooks. He says he quit as soon as he knew what was going on. Bull! He's been there a long time, and he knew what he was doing. Here's to Cobb on the diabled list! Permanently!
Posted by: kevhog
QuadGirlie, do you think anybody believes that Cobb is innocent? He hung up on me more than once, when trying to track down my parts. He knew what was goiong on, don't let him fool you. I'm sure every crook in the world would apologize to the people they ripped off, if they knew they wouldn't be punished. Tell Cobb he's a wanted man, and tell Trinity they're losing business daily by hiring that jack-ass, Eric Cobb!
Posted by: hakmazter
I got taken for $140. read the other posts for Last Ripoff Racing. Kip Kilburn and Eric Cobb are jerks. I hope they crash if they ever race again.
Posted by: Rocky
It only seems fitting that he goes to work for Trinity another bunch of thieves
Posted by: VENOMOUS
Track the son of a guns down since someone said they knew where they now worked or were starting there own business and beat the liven tar out of em when they get off work. Or you could just track em down and demand your money back ASAP or 1 you will commence to squashing their heads or 2 you will announce to there customers and employees or employers about the dirty deed they did. Just my .02.
Posted by: VENOMOUS
I would have to say the reason everyone here is flaming Eric is because he said in his post that he knew nothing about the ripping off the business did to it's customers. Clearly he did since he was the VP. I believe he's trying to clear his name for when he starts his own small scam, I mean small business. You gotta give it to the crooks, it took a little brains to figure out that after 60 days the credit card companies won't help in getting the creditters money back therefore leaving the creditters to fight their own battles of getting their money back. If I had this happen to me not only would I want my money back but I would contact every person that they ripped off and all of us file a suit against LRR. With this many angry customers who do you think would win and also tarnish the heck out of their records for life to make it that much harder to have a business to rip people off with.
Posted by: VENOMOUS
Kevhog's got it right. That's like kicking someone's butt and later saying I'm sorry for breaking your nose but my business partner was doing it so I thought it was OK for me to do it. Appology's rarely mean squat unless the person appologizing was once a friend or something to that affect. Quadgirlie read through all the posts before you post so you can get a good idea of the crap these poor guys went through. I'm not being a smartbutt but I've read all of these posts a while back and got all the key peices of info about this scam. Ya'll keep spreading the word about these crooks and it might get hard for these fellows to get a job and/or keep the one they have.
Posted by: dirtyhowies
If you paid by a credit card i believe you might be able to get credited back from them. Good luck
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Posted by: dirtyhowies
In cause anyone was wondering the above person ERIC COBB sent me a letter saying the same as his post. I was surprized to get it, it also brought back some faith in people . Just wanted to let someone know
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RIDE HARD RIDE ON RIDE WITH A HELMET
Posted by: Jeepers
get in touch with your State Attorney General Office - consumer fraud division. evidentally these people had an ongoing fraud placed upon it's customers and this would affect the bankruptcy petition
Posted by: QuadCobb
I recently read all of your comments regarding Last Rebel Racing. I apologize to each every person that feels that I had any involvement in the deception that took place between Last Rebel Racing and it&39;s customers. As a salesperson at Last Rebel, I was completely unaware and uninvolved in the financial doings that occurred while I was employed there. Once I became aware of what was really going on with the customer&39;s money and credit cards I promptly quit the company for fear of my name being tarnished.
Being in the ATV industry for over 13 years as a professional racer, test rider for magazines, working in the industry, promoting races, and dealing directly with a lot of great people in the ATV industry on a daily basis, the last thing I would ever want to do is rip someone off or make our sport look bad. I encourage you to seek financial restitution by contacting your credit card companies. And from the bottom of my heart I am very very sorry for what has happened to each and everyone of you. If there is anything you feel I can do to help your situation, feel free to contact me by e-mail: Quadcobb@aol.com.
Sincerely,
Erik Cobb
Posted by: ronnoc47
I too was taken by Last Rebel. I ordered their
shocks back in early december. When I ordered, I
talked to Eric Cobb. He was extremely helpful. He told me that it would be atleast 6-8 weeks before I would recieve my $1600+ shocks. He also told me to check back with them around mid january. Thats when I realized something was going on . I contacted the credit card company and hopefully will have my account credited. A few weeks after all this went down, I recieved a letter from Last Rebel saying that my account will be credited
$1600+. This was a lie . They never credited my account.
I learned a good lesson. I hope these people get caught and get what they deserve. I am pursuing this and I hope that anyone else who has been taken by them does also.
ronnoc47
'88 trx 250r
"00 trx 400ex
Posted by: ronnoc47
If Eric Cobb is now working for Trinity, I sure won't be doing business with them at any time. I hope the word gets out about him and Kip.
Posted by: North
I think all you folks that got burned should compare notes, WHEN were you all ripped off ? How many weeks of phone calls to this place before this "cobb" guy "discovered" that customers were getting cheated ?
Also, call the B.B.B and or state biz license office and find out if this "cobb" guys name shows up.
Sounded like he was sincerly sorry, but I wouldn't let him off the hook just yet, untill I had checked into it for myself.......
Posted by: poontang_69
Wow! Sure glad I came to this post because not just 30 min's ago I was looking at LRR's ad in my dirtwheels mag and was thinking of ordering a seat cover from them. Not now, not ever.Thanks for the info.
Posted by: Rick
I ordered a Lonestar Racing frame from Last Rebel. Thank god Lonestar is helping people get what they ordered even though the staff at Last Rebel Racing tried to screw people over. I also ordered a Last Rebel case saver and was billed for it and never received it. Eric Cobb and Kip both gave me the run-around, BUYING TIME!!! For Eric Cobb to say he knew nothing about this is an insult to peoples intelligence. These two jokers tarnished the reputations of honest business' in the ATV sport. In my personal opinion, these two people should be banned from anything related to the ATV sport.
Posted by: QuadGirlie
I have been following all of the comments on this topic. What I don't understand is why all of the blame is being pointed at Erik, is it because he was the one who most of you dealt with, therefore, feel that it should be a personal vendeta against him. Am I not correct in saying that Kip Kilburn was the owner of Last Rebel and ultimately the one that was responsible for the financial side of the company??
Does anyone see an apology from Kip here? No. Credit should be given where credit is deserved, and Erik deserves credit for facing the people that he has dealt with through LLR. He could have ignored everything just the way that Kip has.
It seems funny to me, that industry persons (Robert Rex, Doug Meyer) are not holding Erik responsible (if they were, it would be all over every editors page in every ATV publication), but you all are...
He has tried to make peace, start pointing your blame towards Kip! Buyer beware also, Kip is opening a new ATV Business, will you know if you are buying from him??
Posted by: QuadGirlie
The official company name is Last Rebel Racing, Inc. If any of you know anything about Incorporating you have to name three people on your incorporation paperwork...President, Vice President and Treasurer. You are also supposed to have board meetings with these three people to keep them informed of what is going on with the business, do you think this was done? Is it possible that Erik was listed as VP just to get the paperwork processed? Do any of you know Kip or Erik personally?
And as for whoever said that their creditcard company wouldn't help because the charges were over 60 days old, should be just as pissed at their CC company as they are at Last Rebel. I know that you have 1 year to file a dispute on any charges that you have made...
Posted by: QuadGirlie
No, I am not defending what Last Rebel has done, I don't agree with it at all.
I have just done some research also. I have met both of them, however, and just have a feeling that you all should focus your efforts on the only person who could get your money back, the financial man behind LRR, KIP.
On every occasion that I called Last Rebel, even when I asked to speak to the financial person, I was told that the owner handled that and I could never seem to get ahold of him.
I too got taken, I have just been raised to know that if someone makes an apology, they are making an effort. I see Cobbs apology, not Kilburn's, so I am focusing my efforts on the person who is ultimately responsible for what happened at Last Rebel, YOU ALL KNOW WHO THAT IS, KIP!! NOT COBB.
And as for that person who is thankful they logged onto this site before calling Last Rebel, get a clue, even if you did call, you would have gotten a disconnected line.
Posted by: QuadGirlie
Warren if you knew Kip was a crook, why did you have to get fired before leaving and not just quit??
Posted by: QuadGirlie
Warren if you knew Kip was a crook, why did you have to get fired before leaving and not just quit??
Posted by: QuadGirlie
No that isn't my real name...Just as yours is not Aggressive1. DUH!!
Posted by: wygrizz
Quadgirlie next time you might think twice before you let eric and kip tag team you.
Posted by: wygrizz
Just because you ,kip and eric had a threesome doesn't mean you know what's going on.
Posted by: scotch54
I haven't orderd anything from LRR but I have read all these complaints. Being a lover of atv's I am going to contact trinity racing and give them a peice of my mind, If you all did the same maybe we could cause some kamotion.
Mojave...moto
Posted by: Aggressive1
Eric is full of it.
I used to work there before he did. Him and kip made up this big story that I was stealing and doing drugs. The truth was that Kip was so far in debt that he had to fire me, I knew the truth. As soon as I was gone, Kip pulls up with a brand new 28' weekend warrior. It wasn't bad enough that Kip Fired me under false pretenses, but he then set out to destroy me by telling eveyone in the industry this story. He did this to hide the truth.
THE TRUTH IS, KIP DID NOT WANT ME TO TELL ANYONE THAT HE WAS A FRAUD. WE HAD MORE FIGHTS OVER THIS BULL **** THEN I CAN REMEMBER. HE HAD A SIGN OVER MY DESK THAT SAID, "SELL ****, RUN CARDS." HE LAUGHED AT CHARGE BACKS AND WOULD CHARGE THEM AGAIN.
PROTECT YOURSELF, CHANGE YOUR CARD #
I lost everything I owned because of that *edit*, HELL YES ERIC KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON. Well KIP, I told you time would tell, I told you that the truth would shine. And U eric, 2 faced as u are, I fell sorry for you. I tried to warn ya, didn't I. You are afraid of your name being tarnished, that's true, but that aint why u left. Afteer the IRS shut down all of Kips Insurance companies, and Lone star quit givinfg you guys credit, WHICH BY THE WAY, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR YOU. THEY ASKED ME TODAY WHERE U WERE. Dont u wish u would have told the finance company for my truck that u didn't know where i was. don't u wish u wouldn't have said all that **** to Steve. U only left because the magazines wouldn't print you're adds anymore. U only left because there was nothing left. U told so many lies, *KIP & ERIC" I Hope That Hasrry At TRINITY Really does know God, Because U will be revealed for the pig that you are.
Afraid to tarnish, U don't know what tarnish MEANS. Try living in my shoes ERIC COBB, *edit*. U tarnished me so bad, I will never fully recover.
Sorry every body for carring on, but this has been on my chest for 2 years, 2 years I've been waiting and warning people.
LOOK. If I can be any help to any of you, let me know
wlark@hotmail.com
www.thequadstop.com
Posted by: Aggressive1
The reason u were told that is because "WOULD U WANT TO TALK TO THESE PEOPLE. Kip used to have me intercept his calls too! I started not even telling him who it was, i would just hand him the ph and say "KIip, Phone" he would have no choice but to answer the call.
Once again, Why do ya think I got fired, Drugs my ass
warren
Posted by: Aggressive1
Personaly, I think that you (quad Girrle) If that is your real name, havnt been bitten by eric, he has obviously snowed u good. Well, go ahead and believe what u will, but take this warning to heart, and I know that there are some of u out there remember me and my warnings, just steer clear, u don't want to get caught in the middle. Kip & Eric were doing it togather. HE KNEW 100% HE BONED U AS MUCH AS KIP, and as far as robert rex or dennis cox, or even bill lamphier, kThey write Magizine articles, They are not allowed to get caught up in the scuttlebut. This is how they earn thier living. Don't even think of bothering them with this crap, they bring us quality reading material, if they had to chase stuff like this around all day it would be caled The Dirt, no Dirt Wheels.
Posted by: Aggressive1
Consider your self extremly lucky
Posted by: Aggressive1
I couldn't have said it better myself
