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Posted by: KEGRACING
I am in the market for an entry level model 1911 - .45. Just want something to play with at the range. I do not have a 1911, and want one... boys and their toys!
First off, I know you often get what you pay for, and I do not want to pay for a Kimber, Springfield, Wilson Custom, etc. While I would love to have one of each, its not what I need right now.
I also have several other good guns, Rugers, Colts, Glocks, etc. These all have a purpose, from Conceal Carry (not here in IL yet ! ) to Hunting.
I have looked at several web sites and hear some good and bad about each. What do you have, and what do you think. If you have bought one recently, how much and where, etc. I am looking at the Tarus PT1911, Rock Island Match, STI Spartan, and a few others.
Thanks!
Ken
Posted by: KEGRACING
400 - 600 give or take a little... I know the Tarus came out about a year ago at 399 and has went up about 100 since...
Posted by: KEGRACING
Just wanted to thank everyone for the comments.
I bought the Tarus couple of weeks ago... found one for 499+tax, last he had in stock, grabbed it.
Not a lot of shells throught it yet, but I am very happy with it.
I also just got back from NRA national convention in St Louis... it was great. If you ever get a chance to go to one, do it. The signs said "acres and acres of guns, gear and stuff" and they were right.
After getting to hold, dry fire, shake, take down, about anything you wanted to do (other than live fire) about every gun made, I am very happy with the Tarus for the money. Sure some of the HIGH dollar Kimbers and Wilsons, etc along with a BUNCH of custom shops have nicer guns, but 1200- and UP!
I can buy a lot of shells for that! (I can also send some more post cards, donations, etc. to try to continue to get the "peoples republic of IL" to pass Concealed Carry!)
Safe shooting everyone.
Ken
Posted by: SPD522
For the money, the Taurus is tough to beat. I think it is the hands down winner in bang for the buck. Get some Wilson mags and have fun.
I had a Spfd Mil-Spec. Couldn't hit a thing with it. It wasn't the gun was inaccurate, it was that the Mil-Spec sights are so tiny, I couldn't see them well enough to hit anything. It wasn't just me either. Some of my shooting buddies with much younger eyes couldn't hit with it either.
It has had a complete makeover since and most things replaced. But the frame, slide, Barrel, barrel bushing, and link are still the originals. It shoots very accurately now that it has good sights on it.
So if you consider a Mil-SPec, at least consider having some good sights installed or you won't want to shoot it. And once you do that, you will have more than the price of the loaded Taurus already in it.
Craig
Posted by: SPD522
Yes the S&W and Colt will cost more. But the S&W has not been trouble free. There are lots of reports of problems related to the external extractor. Colts are not the level of quality they used to be known for but their price still thinks they are. Also mentioned was Llama. They are not compatible with most standard 1911 parts so any repair parts or upgrades you may want are very limited. I have only seen one person shooting one and it didn't run that well.
If you want to keep the price down, you have to make some compromises. In the $500 range, it's pretty much a Springfield Mil-SPec, a Colt 1911 A1, or a loaded Taurus. Since the Taurus comes with almost all the upgrades most would want and a lifetime warranty, it's a slam dunk.
Posted by: SPD522
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Originally posted by: drewfromden
Thanks trailblazer for clearing that up since I haven't checked gun prices/reviews for a while.
Doesn't springfield armory make some kind of beefed up 1911?
Not sure what you mean by beefed up. They make what is called a loaded model with beavertail, match trigger, decent sights, ambi safety, etc. that I have seen go for about $800 new.
Craig
Posted by: JohnO
Definitely price up a used Colt. Hard to go wrong there.
I still have my dad's 1911 that he carried in China when we were arguing with Japan. It's a Colt. He bought it in S.F. (for the princely sum of $50) before he shipped out, as he said what the army was handing out back then was of dubious quality. This one has lost a lot of blueing, but it's still fairly tight, still shoots great. The old Colt produced 1911's hold up very well. He taught me how to field strip it when I was 8 years old. I was so proud... of course, I later realized that a trained monkey could field strip a 1911.
Oh, he had a M1 Thompson, too, but he had to give that back. Darn it.
Posted by: ShadyRascal
I was just talking with a (very good) gunsmith today about 1911's. He recommended Charles Daly for a lower priced gun, and they shoot well, and can easily be upgraded as you grow with it. I went looking for one of these in town which nobody had, but did run into a Springfield Arms Mil Spec, very lightly used, with Hogue grips, for $425. I went home with it and am happy to finally be in the M1911 family. Can't wait to go shooting, and fiddling with upgrades!
I was madly in love with a Kimber Tactical with alloy frame, mix of satin stainless and dark blued, man it was gorgeous and felt good in the hand but couldn't get myself to cough up 969 bucks for it.
Posted by: swampyjunior
If you are just looking for a 45auto that is not exactly a 1911 look a like. You might try a Hi-point 45ACP. They will not win any beauty contests but the one I have shoots better than my friends Springfield Armory 45auto. At least its not as picky on ammo and is more accurate. Not to mention the fact that you can find them for less than $150 if you look around.
When I first got it my friend about laughed his head off. The first day at the range it chewed through 500 rounds of hand loaded ammo with no jams of troubles. His Springfield 45auto had 5 stovepipes with HIS handloads. The following week we tried one box of Fiochi, American arm and Remington 230gr FMJ in each gun and his jammed once the Hi-point zero. He has now turned to the dark side and is a believer as am I.
SJ
Posted by: CaptainQuint
A guy we occasionally ride and shoot with has a Taurus 1911 and loves it. He said he shoots it all the time and he hasn't had any problems with it. Made me think about picking one up.
Posted by: CaptainQuint
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Originally posted by: SPD522I had a Spfd Mil-Spec. Couldn't hit a thing with it. It wasn't the gun was inaccurate, it was that the Mil-Spec sights are so tiny, I couldn't see them well enough to hit anything. It wasn't just me either. Some of my shooting buddies with much younger eyes couldn't hit with it either.
Craig
OK good so it wasn't just me either.
I had a really difficult time shooting one of those myself. I just couldn't get the sights to work with my eyeballs. I kept messing with my glasses, taking off my shooting glasses, switching shooting glasses and I finally took my shooting glasses off and shot with just my regular glasses.
Guess we're all spoiled by those big tritium sights on our pistols now.
Posted by: pwillie
...about how much do you want to spend?.....
Posted by: pwillie
Taurus would be my pick if it was cost item.I just bought a new Springfield XD 45 acp,man does that thing pop a cap! I bought it for the hi-cap. mag. and it fits my hand as well as the 1911. Great bargain for 535.00,two mags and a holster......I haven't heard anything but good about the Taurus...should be able to pick one up reasonable....
Posted by: pwillie
Ten! You guys need to get your selves a set of "Bionic" eyes like I have and you wouldn't need any glasses!!!HAaaHAaaHAaaa
Posted by: toehanus
1911, great gun. Springfield Armory makes a "mil spec" 1911 that is for all intents and purposes is like what was issued in the military in WWII. Parkerized, etc. They run around $500 here in Okla. Another option is to purchase a used 1911. As long as your frame and slide are in good shape, everything else on a 1911 is easily replaced/upgraded. Also, if you can find one, an Argentinian model 1927 is an exact copy of a 1911. I think the story goes that Colt sold some of their old equipment to the Argentine gov't and the 1927 was born. They're a surplus item and if you look around you can find one for around $350. My personal experience is to avoid the AMT hardballer, Colt series 80, and anything Taurus. I know many people will swear by them, but that's just my experience. Personally, I would go ahead and spend $600 and buy a mid-level Springfield. Oh, just remembered, if you're wanting to go pretty inexpensive, consider a Llama. Regardless of what type of 1911 you buy, get some good magazines for it. Wilson Combat or Chip McCormick have worked well for me.
toe
Posted by: drewfromden
Why don't you go classic style, with a S&W or a Colt 1911?
I think they are a bit more, but they are the orgional design and scream quality.
Posted by: drewfromden
Thanks trailblazer for clearing that up since I haven't checked gun prices/reviews for a while.
Doesn't springfield armory make some kind of beefed up 1911?
Posted by: RNKracker
Sorry.....did I miss anyone mentioning Kimber! I know they're a bit more than $600 but can get them for $750-$1K.
I definitely agree with the comment on Wilson Combat / Chip McCormick mags.
I know that Kegracing got the Taurus (love their wheelguns) but I am not much of a fan of their semis.
Another thought (because I like the doublr stack mag capacities) would have been a p-14 Para Ordinance!
I do have more expensive tastes though.
