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Posted by: Sandgod
Get a quick release flag holder.. You must cut the nut off the original flag.. If the flag breaks you just push the old part through the hole and insert the flag back into the hole..
Posted by: RoostItUp
I recommend a flag brand called Pop-Off and/or Pop-it. It mounts using a plastic end that when stressed enough the top with the flag attached will pop out and keep the flag from breaking. A little plastic ring keeps the flag from getting lost, and afterwards you simply pop the plastic cap back in and it's like new again. You can see it here, but I know you can get them cheaper at other places.
Posted by: 2fun
My friend and I both use the CB whips and spring mount. They are about 8 ft tall, and work AWESOME!
You can get the entire set-up from Radio shack (whip and spring mount) for about 37 bucks! Plus you'll never break another whip!
The only thing you need to do is have a flag made, and or mounted to it. We had our better halfs make a flag out of red nylon material that you can get from any fabric store, and then have them (or a professional) sew it to the end of the whip! BR>
I've had mine for a couple of years now, and it still looks brand new!!!
Posted by: 2fun
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Originally posted by: recon99
Ok, I might go with the CB antenna. I already have 4 broken flags so i'll just use one of those for the top of the whip. Could you try to find me a link to the type of antenna you're talking about so I don't get the wrong thing? I'd really appreciate it.
Send me a PM, and I'll try to send you some pics of my set up.
There are only two differen't mounts that I've seen from radio shack, and BOTH use the same stainless steel whip. (I think it is either 7 or 8 feet tall)
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and the other spring base (the one I use) looks fatter in the middle
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Posted by: 2fun
See if this works.....
CB whip base
Posted by: 2fun
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Originally posted by: Tripleshot
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Originally posted by: Lefty31
Make sure if you get a metal radio whip that it's usable...buddy o' mine went down to LSH OK and they wouldn't let him through w/o a fiberglass whip...no metal whip....i don't really see the difference? So just make sure what you get is usable for your area
The reason you DO NOT use a metal whip should be obvious. Metal does not break, it becomes a weapon. Fiberglass will break under stress, as it should. I use a spring holder available at many parts stores, and it allows for enough flex to make the flag staff last for more than one weekend. Buy a spring holder as has been described in this thread, and a quality flag and you will be as happy as I am keeping it legal and safe for me and any other riders that may get in the way of the flag staff.
Dude.....
You are joking right??? A weapon?!!???
The CB whips use a spring mount also. If you go back and look at the link I provided, you will see it. The CB whip is no more dangerous than a fiberglass rod. It folds down under stress too thanks to the spring base.
I've been using one for over 2 years now, and I've never had a single problem with it. If anything, the fiberglass rod can be more dangerous with the shards that can get under your skin if it breaks. The only way a Steel whip would be more dangerous is if you are out riding in a lightning storm. And if thats the case, I hope you are smart enough to get in out of the storm.
Posted by: 2fun
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Originally posted by: Tripleshot
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Originally posted by: 2fun
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Originally posted by: Tripleshot
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Originally posted by: Lefty31
Make sure if you get a metal radio whip that it's usable...buddy o' mine went down to LSH OK and they wouldn't let him through w/o a fiberglass whip...no metal whip....i don't really see the difference? So just make sure what you get is usable for your area
The reason you DO NOT use a metal whip should be obvious. Metal does not break, it becomes a weapon. Fiberglass will break under stress, as it should. I use a spring holder available at many parts stores, and it allows for enough flex to make the flag staff last for more than one weekend. Buy a spring holder as has been described in this thread, and a quality flag and you will be as happy as I am keeping it legal and safe for me and any other riders that may get in the way of the flag staff.
Dude.....
You are joking right??? A weapon?!!???
The CB whips use a spring mount also. If you go back and look at the link I provided, you will see it. The CB whip is no more dangerous than a fiberglass rod. It folds down under stress too thanks to the spring base.
I've been using one for over 2 years now, and I've never had a single problem with it. If anything, the fiberglass rod can be more dangerous with the shards that can get under your skin if it breaks. The only way a Steel whip would be more dangerous is if you are out riding in a lightning storm. And if thats the case, I hope you are smart enough to get in out of the storm.hr>
My name is not dude. show some respect. It is not a joke. A metal staff does not give under stress. fiberglaas, the kind used for ATV's, is designed to break under stress, which is safer than metal,, that under the wrong conditions, could empale the rider or a bystander. If metal was the best choice, don't you think it would be sold in every ATV store in the country as the best solution? You have had no problems, YET!! you are an accident waiting to happen. Keep well away from me with your metal whip solution. hr>
Ok, I will appologize for calling you dude, and I meant no disrespect, but that is far as I go.
I call a spade a spade, and I call BS when it is BS. Your assessment of metal whips is unfounded to put it politely.
FYI, metal flag poles (whips) are sold in many if not most ATV stores (at least the larger ones that I have visited). They can be found at Rocky mountain ATV, Action motor sports Metal flag pole (whip), and many other shops I have visited. The reason more people don't own them is because they are generally a lot more expensive than the cheaper fiberglass ones, which I might add can give some pretty nasty splinters if you are not careful.
I fail to see how one would get "impailed" by a metal whip when the ones I've seen are more flexible than the fiberglass rods that I and others use. Not to mention the steel whips usually have a "ball", or some other type of tip to avoid injury.
Apparently you don't understand how the "spring base" works either. When force is applied to the whip (whether it is metal or fiberglass), the spring base gives way and the whip folds down (avoiding breaking or bending of the pole).
As to how bystanders would get impailed is also beyond me, unless you're thinking a person is going to tumble his/her ATV into a crowd at a high rate of speed. If thats the case, I think the whip would be the LEAST of my concerns....
As far as myself being an accident waiting to happen because I use a steel whip??? Thats just funny! I got the idea from others I've seen riding on the dunes, and many of my friends also use the metal whips so I guess there are a LOT of people who are accidents waiting to happen due to their choice of whips lol!
I have no problem with you stating your opinion on likes/dislikes about things such as this, but when you state it as fact, I have a problem with that. If you were able to inspect my or my friends set-ups, or any of the other people who use the steel whips with spring mounted bases, I think you'd understand how audacious your statements sound.
As far as staying away from you with my flag pole, I don't think you have much to worry about Seems we are pretty far away, and my guess is also that our riding styles are pretty differen't too.
Anyway, this is my last post on the subject. If you still think they are dangerous, then that is your perogative. However, I suggest you inspect and compare both in person before passing judgement on my and several others set-ups. I have seen and used both, and I can assure you that you have some serious misconceptions on this subject.
Posted by: MRDS650
I also got tired of breaking flag poles and having to try and repair them on the dunes.
I bought the flag poles of flag poles. It is meant for off road mining trucks. It has a metal spring base and a fiberglass pole that is about 1/2" thick and 10 feet tall. It works great and have had it on my bike for the past 3 years now.
The only think you have to look out for is to make sure it is mounted at a level or slopped back position. My rear rack was bent when i first put the flag on and it would sometimes swing forward and hit my helmut. Kind of like someone wacking you in the back of the head.
Posted by: DuneMe
Put a little electrical tape above the mount. . . it keeps it from splintering.
Quick releases have worked well for me.
Posted by: KGB
A utah company called Wheeler Whip makes a flag holder called the Springy Thingy. Its basically the cb antenna mount you guys mentioned, but it incorporates a quick release feature.
Posted by: RealtorRider
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Originally posted by: Sandgod
Get a quick release flag holder.. You must cut the nut off the original flag.. If the flag breaks you just push the old part through the hole and insert the flag back into the hole..
this is the type my friends and I run, I found one I really liked at Dunefest last year. the other trick is to use electrical tape at the bottom of the flag pole (above the mount) to keep it from splintering to bad. these type of mounts are available at Rockymountainatv.com
Posted by: RealtorRider
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Originally posted by: mune237
the flag you want is at
www.firestik.com
we bought them here in WA state for $30
we've even had roll overs , but no broken flags
I just purchased one of these for a riding buddy last weekend that wanted to run dual flags (on one pole), and the group I was riding with were running al least 4 more
looks pretty tough and will hold up well....I still like my quick release with the ability to push the broken part out right then and there (I still use the electrical tape to keep the fiberglass from splintering)
Posted by: recon99
Ok, i'm not a dune rider, but I figured this section would be the best place to post this question. The place I ride requires a 6 foot flag, and on my last trip I broke 2 of them, and my brother also broke 2 of them. That's $50 worth of flags!!! Plus both times I ended up riding back to camp 5 miles with a flag sticking out of my boot which isn't the most comforable and convenient riding position imaginable. So...
Is there any kind of mount that reduces the chances of breaking the flags? It seems like they're just breaking because of all the stress from whipping around all day because they just start splintering at the base. I thought I saw flag mounts before that were basically a spring between the grab bar and flag to take the stress away from the weak fiberglass pole, but I couldn't find any on my own. Thanks for any guidance on this.
Posted by: recon99
Ok, I might go with the CB antenna. I already have 4 broken flags so i'll just use one of those for the top of the whip. Could you try to find me a link to the type of antenna you're talking about so I don't get the wrong thing? I'd really appreciate it.
Posted by: recon99
Not sure what you mean there dude. The mounts for mine are solid steel on one end, which makes it a little difficult to punch the broken stub straight through it. I would have to drill it out and glue it back in again. That really wouldn't solve the problem anyways, 2 hours later the flag will just snap right off again and i'll be riding with a flag sticking out of my boot looking like a fool.
Posted by: recon99
Thanks guys. During my last ride I saw that the registration store there had spring mounts that work with the regular fiberglass flags, so I bought one of those and didn't have any broken flags both days, so I guess my problem is solved. The quick release screw that holds the flag in was chewing a big notch into the fiberglass, but I think a little bit of electrical tape wrapped tightly around the base of the pole should solve that problem.
Posted by: recon99
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Originally posted by: NVMYZ28
How are you guys breaking so many flags on Quads? Are you putting them on their tops/sides often or?
I just ask because I am using a brand new flag - been out 3 times with it and it hasnt broken yet. I thought they only broke if you rolled them. Im not much of a daredevil though - maybe thats it hr>
For me it's mostly where I ride. I don't ride dunes (don't have any dunes within a day's drive even). The place I ride at is abandoned coal mines, so we have mud pits to ride in, then when you get stuck sometimes you end up having to jump on the grab bar to get the machine to do what you want. I've seen everybody break one that way at least once. The trees can do a number on them too, a couple times mine were just slowling splintering away to nothing because of the repetitive stress. Then of course everbody accidentally ninja kicks one off the back when they swing their leg over before they get used to having a flag back there. I got a spring mount, and that fixed all of that. Well, most of it, the trees still manage to tear the flag itself apart by the end of the day, even though the fiberglass rod is still intact.
Posted by: Lefty31
Make sure if you get a metal radio whip that it's usable...buddy o' mine went down to LSH OK and they wouldn't let him through w/o a fiberglass whip...no metal whip....i don't really see the difference? So just make sure what you get is usable for your area
Posted by: DriverDoyle
CB Whip...Thats a good ideal...Im going to have to try that..were always brakeing the damn things too..
Posted by: NVMYZ28
How are you guys breaking so many flags on Quads? Are you putting them on their tops/sides often or?
I just ask because I am using a brand new flag - been out 3 times with it and it hasnt broken yet. I thought they only broke if you rolled them. Im not much of a daredevil though - maybe thats it
Posted by: scrammersam
thanks for the cb idea. them fiberglass ones are too cheap and end up costing more
Posted by: mune237
the flag you want is at
www.firestik.com
we bought them here in WA state for $30
we've even had roll overs , but no broken flags
Posted by: Speeddrive1
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Originally posted by: Floorit
I recommend getting a Firestick brand with a heavy duty spring mount. They work real well. I have them on all our quads and they've survived many trips to the dunes.
Also....you might look into getting a stainless steel whip with a spring coil mount.
Are you talking about c b radio antennas. They would work very good. I have one on my semi that hits a bridge twice a day for four years now and it has never broke.
Posted by: Tripleshot
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Originally posted by: Lefty31
Make sure if you get a metal radio whip that it's usable...buddy o' mine went down to LSH OK and they wouldn't let him through w/o a fiberglass whip...no metal whip....i don't really see the difference? So just make sure what you get is usable for your area
The reason you DO NOT use a metal whip should be obvious. Metal does not break, it becomes a weapon. Fiberglass will break under stress, as it should. I use a spring holder available at many parts stores, and it allows for enough flex to make the flag staff last for more than one weekend. Buy a spring holder as has been described in this thread, and a quality flag and you will be as happy as I am keeping it legal and safe for me and any other riders that may get in the way of the flag staff.
Posted by: Tripleshot
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Originally posted by: 2fun
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Originally posted by: Tripleshot
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Originally posted by: Lefty31
Make sure if you get a metal radio whip that it's usable...buddy o' mine went down to LSH OK and they wouldn't let him through w/o a fiberglass whip...no metal whip....i don't really see the difference? So just make sure what you get is usable for your area
The reason you DO NOT use a metal whip should be obvious. Metal does not break, it becomes a weapon. Fiberglass will break under stress, as it should. I use a spring holder available at many parts stores, and it allows for enough flex to make the flag staff last for more than one weekend. Buy a spring holder as has been described in this thread, and a quality flag and you will be as happy as I am keeping it legal and safe for me and any other riders that may get in the way of the flag staff.
Dude.....
You are joking right??? A weapon?!!???
The CB whips use a spring mount also. If you go back and look at the link I provided, you will see it. The CB whip is no more dangerous than a fiberglass rod. It folds down under stress too thanks to the spring base.
I've been using one for over 2 years now, and I've never had a single problem with it. If anything, the fiberglass rod can be more dangerous with the shards that can get under your skin if it breaks. The only way a Steel whip would be more dangerous is if you are out riding in a lightning storm. And if thats the case, I hope you are smart enough to get in out of the storm.hr>
My name is not dude. show some respect. It is not a joke. A metal staff does not give under stress. fiberglaas, the kind used for ATV's, is designed to break under stress, which is safer than metal,, that under the wrong conditions, could empale the rider or a bystander. If metal was the best choice, don't you think it would be sold in every ATV store in the country as the best solution? You have had no problems, YET!! you are an accident waiting to happen. Keep well away from me with your metal whip solution.
Posted by: Floorit
I recommend getting a Firestick brand with a heavy duty spring mount. They work real well. I have them on all our quads and they've survived many trips to the dunes.
Also....you might look into getting a stainless steel whip with a spring coil mount.
Posted by: Floorit
Actually, they are CB antennas. Just not *wired* for sound...lol. They work well. I'm not sure the thread size, but I believe they are 3/8" threads.
Posted by: Floorit
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Originally posted by: recon99
Ok, I might go with the CB antenna. I already have 4 broken flags so i'll just use one of those for the top of the whip. Could you try to find me a link to the type of antenna you're talking about so I don't get the wrong thing? I'd really appreciate it.
Check the ATV shops and/or the CB radio shops in your area also
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I recommend you get the heavy duty spring base --->Model: SS-H2F
Posted by: alienjunior
try www.clickwhip.com good whips and awesome lights....
Posted by: bubbleheadmt
I have seen flags at my dealer that are thicker than the rip rods and have a spring loaded attachment. They are about 30 bucks a piece, but if you keep breaking them, maybe you should look into it.
Posted by: lancec2c30
OMG you cant seriosly tell me that when a flag breaks at the base you just chuck it and buy a new one???? that is a waste of money. Take a scewrdriver and a hammer next tim,e. then you just puch the chunk out and re-insert the flag. presto you have only lost about 3/4 of an inch off of your flag.
Posted by: lancec2c30
huh cause the 12 doolar flag I have is drilled all the way through and has a locking bolt that crimps around the flag when you put the nut on it to secure it to the bike.
Posted by: pabst660r
when i take the raptor to places that require a flag i`ll use a bicycle whip and flag from wal-mart.they fit the "push in" whip holders and only cost 5 bucks each.hahaha...they say bell helmets on them too!
Posted by: Marlezee
Alright now guys I have been reading your questions and comments on breaking flags and what kind to get or what kind of mount to use. I have a solution. My name is Aaron Marlette and I am a dune rider, by the end of this month I should have my website up. I have invented a whip mount that you put on the back of your chest protector. Now I have been using mine for two years now and have never broken my whip. I'm a younger guy riding dirt bikes and quads and have crashed a lot. The company name is Marlezee Built, like I said I don't have a website up yet but once I do I will let you guys know. If you have any questions or comments write back.
Later guys.
Posted by: hbmcanada
Check out this company. www.hbmcanada.com Click on their products icon and then on the ATV Whips.
They manufacture very durable whips made for extreme conditions.
