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Posted by: CrowleyOffroad
Old pass expires Sept. 30.
I talked to BLM over Labor Day. They are planning to raise fees, but didn't have any idea of new cost.
I just talked to BLM. Sit down.....
$90 for the annual pass and $40 for a weekly pass.
New passes should be available by Oct. 1.
Call BLM Oct. 1 for new passes -> 775-885-6000.
Posted by: CrowleyOffroad
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Originally posted by: Trasher
and our green sticker money goes where????
No registration in Nevada.
Posted by: CrowleyOffroad
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Originally posted by: DSengineer
With this DOUBLING of the fees are we going to see any changes, or are we just bending over and taking it in the @#$ because BLM can charge what they want????hr>
Fencing is going in to keep users out of butterfly habitat. $$$$$$$$$$$
Basically, bend over.
Posted by: CrowleyOffroad
http://www.krnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3911333&nav=8faO
BLM raising fees at Sand Mountain
Sep 28, 2005, 12:04 PM PDT
User fees for off-road vehicles at Sand Mountain will double beginning Saturday.
Under the new rates, annual passes will jump from 45 to 90 dollars. Weekly passes will cost 40 dollars. Permits are not sold on a daily basis. However, the BLM says Tuesdays and Wednesdays will be free, when no passes required.
BLM Carson City Field Manager Don Hicks says the money raised will help maintain the popular recreational site and efforts to protect the rare Sand Mountain blue butterfly.
The BLM began imposing fees at the mammoth sand dune 25 miles east of Fallon in March 2003. Last year, those fees generated $170,000, while costs rose to $225,000.
This year, management costs rose to over $300,000.
BLM projects expenditures will rise to more than $800,000 to implement conservation programs to protect the blue butterfly.
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BLM Press Release:
http://www.sandmountain-nv.org/BLM_Press_Release_Fee_Increase.htm
Posted by: biggerisbetter
Boy , the tree-huggers must be laughing their asses off,and high-fiving each other!!! They throw a big protest about "preserving" a Weed or a bug with wings,and then afterwards LEAVE and give all the responisbilities of funding THEIR causes to the Dune ATVer's
Where are these passionate people now? Are they no where to be found when its time to ani up?
Bigger.
Posted by: biggerisbetter
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Originally posted by: Starky
That's only 25 cents a day for the year. If you can go 10 times in a year it's only $9 a day. If you only go a couple times a year, hopefully the money they spent to improve the area and the high fees keeping most of the rif-raf out will make the experience worth it. Just trying to look at the bright side.
If you see someone trashing the place or burning pallets, you should stop and beat the sh!t out of them. You have paid for that privledge.
its also looks like it $40 wether you ride for a week or a day? They should just have a Daily fee like we have here, $7 a day. But our dunes are small and much more manageable the whole place is fenced in,and thier is only 2 entry gates, both have Rangers stations collecting money.
I dont mind the fees, cause thier are more paved roads in camp,and new Bathrooms with HOT showers. They biuld new camp grounds ,all with RV hook-ups, etc....
The weekly rate is a rip off, if you are only staying a couple days, like 95% of the duners do.
Bigger.
Posted by: DuneMe
Really too bad. . .
Jon:
Is there any way to get the BLM to open the trails in back a little more to create a loop like there used to be. Fencing could be used on this to keep riders on the trails but, it is actually dangerous the way they have the same trail in and out. Too easy to have run-ins. Would be better to have a loop with a one-way trail.
Thoughts?
Posted by: DuneMe
Seems I don't make as many trips up there these days for quick weekends. . . I know part of it is how busy work has been. I'm probably going to be avoiding some of the big weekends too (getting hit by a sandrail will do that to you.)
I'm with you on the sleeping hours. It seems like that is about the only thing that has changed and funny thing I don't think the rangers really impacted that.
The ones that get me are the quads that go out riding from camp to the hill and back again and again and again at 6am to 8am. I don't have a problem with you going on a morning ride just don't ride where we all have to hear you. Amazing how stupid people can be. If you are riding in the morning go ride on the otherside of the Mt. where you won't bother anyone and you'll have the area to yourself.
I don't mind the night riders. . .seems like there are enough people riding that they end up all being a blur that you can sleep to. The single bikes in the morning riding near camp are looking to become target practice.
Posted by: RacinJason
Whats the fine for not having your camping pass?
I think I'll keep my money and they can lick my boletas...
Posted by: RacinJason
Who says I wanna hang out with you and who died and made you king of the hill...
Yes I'm the guy up at 3am yelling and screaming obsenities....so please keep the noise to a minimum between 3:30am and 10:00am while I catch up on my shut-eye
Posted by: Starky
That's only 25 cents a day for the year. If you can go 10 times in a year it's only $9 a day. If you only go a couple times a year, hopefully the money they spent to improve the area and the high fees keeping most of the rif-raf out will make the experience worth it. Just trying to look at the bright side.
If you see someone trashing the place or burning pallets, you should stop and beat the sh!t out of them. You have paid for that privledge.
Posted by: BeerSmurf
I'm not totally against this.
Maybe the higher fees will help with the high school kids who go there just to drink, the morons who light bonfires in the dunes, and the idiots who ride on the plants on purpose.
I love Sand Mountain but some people just suck.
Posted by: BeerSmurf
From that post, it sounds like you might be exactly who we don't want around.
Posted by: BeerSmurf
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Originally posted by: RacinJason
Who says I wanna hang out with you and who died and made you king of the hill...
Yes I'm the guy up at 3am yelling and screaming obsenities....so please keep the noise to a minimum between 3:30am and 10:00am while I catch up on my shut-eye
I rest my case.
Posted by: Trasher
and our green sticker money goes where????
Posted by: DSengineer
With this DOUBLING of the fees are we going to see any changes, or are we just bending over and taking it in the @#$ because BLM can charge what they want????
Posted by: DSengineer
I just got back from a weekend trip to Sand Mtn and decided to bend over for the BLM and buy a new pass. I talked to the ranger, who gladly took my money, in regards to where the extra funds were going. He told me they were forced to raise the rates because so many people entered the area last year without "voluntarily" paying at the self check-in station. So basically we all pay for those who skipped out on paying their dues. Whether thats true or not I don't know. That was the explanation I got.
After talking it over with some of the other people in my group we still agreed that with as many times as we go a year, it is the cheapest entertainment you can get for the $$. Its just a little hard to swallow coughing up a bill when just a couple of years ago it didn't cost a dime and really nothing has changed since.
The $40 "one-time entry" is definately not cheap but I agree with some that it may help keep the "non-duners" who are usually coming up there for the wrong reasons away. I'm all for that.
I like my sleep during "normal" sleeping hours thank you!
Posted by: Teebone56
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Originally posted by: BeerSmurf
I'm not totally against this.
Maybe the higher fees will help with the high school kids who go there just to drink, the morons who light bonfires in the dunes, and the idiots who ride on the plants on purpose.
I love Sand Mountain but some people just suck.
I agree it is time we come down on our own, those that trash the bathrooms, burn pallets and leave the nails, break glass and leave trash we are all associated we these people. It is hard to mount a defence when these are the first things they point out.
We all have a lot of money tied up in this sport, if we stand togather we should be able to keep access open and maybe reopen some that has been closed . But I don't think it will be possible until we clean up our own act!
Posted by: sikraptor700
damn
