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Posted by: administrator
I think that an ATV in that price range puts it out of the reach of a lot of people. You could almost buy a new car at that price.
Posted by: Dave Iskierka
How much are you really willing to spend on a 4X4 quad? You think the average $6000-$7000 price tag is getting kind of steep for one of the big boys?
Posted by: ZORLOC
You got to shop around tho i found a shop in Mich. that no one eles can beat so far.
brand new prices
Banshee 5300.00
400EX 5300.00
Gp1200 6900.00
i know they are not what every one is looking for but these are things i have mentaly noted in my melon
but wow these are great prices
Chad "ZORLOC" Petersen
Posted by: philzie
That is pretty expensive compared to ten years ago. But, look at how much FUN they are!!! I think it is worth it.
Posted by: Evan Johnson
I think some bikes are over priced. The bigger the more expensive. I think that pricing ATVs over $6000 is crazy and it angers me. People get all excited about new Bombardiar, or a Husagerg; look at the dang price tag!!! I can tell you right now, these bikes will not sell. I don't go down to the local trails and see these bikes around, nor do I see them at the GNC/GNCC races! So who actually buys these machines? Whats sells is average priced, stock ATV's. People like to improve there ATVs, what fun is it if you have everything?
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Evan Johnson 88 LT250R 98 Blaster
Posted by: TRXter
Hey, we're not talk'n about a new microwave, or automatic sprinklers here. With the exception of those quads used for work, these things are a total indulgence. We buy 'em becouse we WANT 'em. They look cool, go fast, and make niose. If being smart with your money were the issue, you'd stay home and pull weeds on Sunday.
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TRXter
400EX
Posted by: armyman
PRICE AND PERSPECTIVE
Right after World War II when I was a small boy, I can remember my father wishing he could make $1000 per month and be able to live in a $50,000 house. Today, full-time burger-flippers at McDonald&39;s make $1000 per month (168 hours per month * $6 per hour), and in most cities a $50,000 house is your basic fixer-upper hovel.
Forty years earlier quads weren&39;t even a gleam in a designers&39; eye, I couldn&39;t have bought one no matter how much money I had. In 1971 my Honda CB350 cost $580 out the door. In August &39;95 I paid $6900 for my &39;96 Kawasaki Bayou 400 4x4 (this price included sales tax and every option Kawasaki offered including a winch).
It is very easy to think that the &39;71 Honda was a great deal. Where can you buy a brand new street bike today for under $600. Yet in terms of labor expended (constant dollars) to buy them, each toy cost me just slightly more than a month&39;s salary. But more importantly, the level of engineering sophistication in the Kawasaki is much greater than in the Honda. So in effect, I got much more bank for the buck with the Kawasaki.
This same phenomenon is seen in a much more pronounced, and accelerated, fashion in the personal computer world. In 1981 the first IBM PC with two 160K floppies, 64K of memory, and a 12” monochrome monitor cost about $4,000. In 1992 the Micron DX486-66 with a 540M hard drive, 16M memory, and a 15” VGA monitor cost about $4,000. Today a loaded Pentium III with a 17” SVGA monitor costs about the same $4,000.
Technology continues to make ever more technically sophisticated devices available to the buying public for the same, or less, in constant dollars as compared to what came before. So while you&39;ll probably have to work just about as hard to buy tomorrow&39;s quad as you do buy today&39;s, tomorrows will be a better buy.
Forty years from now you, now teenage forum members, will wax nostalgic about the days when you could have bought a brand new loaded 4x4 for a measly seven grand. And you&39;ll complain no end about how the new $70,000 Techimaki VTOL quad (with the capabilities of today&39;s Harrier jet) is overpriced.
So are today&39;s big-bore 4x4s worth $7,000? In a word, YES. Thanks to free-market competition, the manufacturers are bringing you highly sophisticated vehicles at the best possible prices. If you really want to get mad at somebody about the seemingly endless round of price increases (spiraling inflation), get mad at your government. Since the inception of the Federal Reserve in 1913 the value of the dollar has dropped by over 90%.
Is there at least one bright spot in all of this? Yes there is. The cost of fuel to make all these toys go is now at its lowest level in real dollars since any time after World War II. Today&39;s $1.25 per gallon regular gas (here in Pittsburgh), is the same as yesterday&39;s 13 cents per gallon regular gas. So fill ‘er up and go have some cheap fun.
Army Man
Posted by: armyman
ECONOMIES OF SCALE
With all the moaning and complaining about purchase price and replacement parts costs, it seems a little lesson in Econ 101 is in order.
When a manufacturer, like Ford or GM for example, makes millions of identical vehicles, and millions more of nearly identical sister vehicles, wherein many common utility function parts are shared across product lines and model years, it is possible to sell those vehicles and parts at just slightly above cost and still make a profit.
The sole reason anyone is in business, including the laborer putting left front wheels on Ford Escorts who sells his time to Ford, is to make a profit. It is more profitable for Joe Sixpack to wield a lug wrench 8 hours a day, than it is for him to sit and watch TV. Just like Ford or GM, or anybody else, he&39;s in it for the money. Profit is not a dirty word despite what the liberals in media and academia would like to have you believe. Profit is what makes it possible for you to buy a quad, or anything else for that matter. I doubt that you go to work everyday out of the goodness of your heart. You expect a paycheck for your efforts... and so does the other guy.
Last year I put front brakes on my Lincoln Town Car for PA state inspection. Two sets of disc pads cost $23. I also put front brakes on my Kawasaki Concours street bike. Two sets of disc pads, with all four disc pads containing no more material than a single disc pad for my Lincoln, cost $45.
There are far more Lincoln Town Cars than there are Kawasakis all put together. The brake pads that fit my long gone &39;79 Town Car are the same ones that fit my &39;89 Town Car, they also fit the Mercury Grand Marquis and the Ford Crown Victoria. When I go to the mall, my Town Car is perhaps one of a dozen or more present at any given time. When I go to the Shrine Poker Run, the only place I can think of where you can see 800 to 1000 bikes at once, my Concours is the only one. I have attended every Shrine Poker Run since the Fall &39;89 run. In all that time, I have only ever seen one other Concours. In fact, I&39;ve probably seen more Rolls Royces on the road than I have seen Kawasaki Concours.
Since motorcycles, and to an even greater degree quads, are in a sense items of specialty manufacture, in that they are not cranked out in cookie cutter fashion by the millions. It is entirely reasonable that brakes, starters, and other parts cost what they do. If you think an after market performance exhaust system costs “too much”, then try making one yourself. How much in the way of material, and more importantly time, do you think you would require to do the job? Better yet, start your own company and see if like Meineke you can make a living selling them for $19.95. See if you can get George Foreman (“You&39;re not gonna pay a lot for this muffler”) to pitch them for you for cheap.
If a company makes zillions of widgets a year, it is possible for them to recover the cost of production, plus make a profit, by selling those widgets for just a few pennies over cost. If a company makes only a handful of widgets a year, then they must sell them at a significant mark-up just to break even. It is called economy of scale.
Mass production and economy of scale, these are what made yesterday&39;s luxuries, things once only affordable by the very rich like automobiles, into commodity items within the reach of almost everyone. And the spin off of mass production technology to specialty manufacture is the only thing that makes quads, and many other low volume non-essential items, toys by any other name, available at any price.
Army Man
Posted by: Bill.Ciliberti
In 1987 I purchased a brand new King Quad 4x4 for exactly 3000 dollars out the door,taxes included.In 1997,my brother bought a 97 KQ,the only changes in 10 yrs to that quad, were,250cc up to 280cc,and from totally air cooled to installing an oil cooler,BIG DEAL.And the price for the 97 was 5500 dollars.The manufactures will get whatever supply and demand allow them to.I to am utterly pissed at the price of parts.40 dollars PER WHEEL for brakes for my 99 Sportsman,Ridicules.I just installed a rear wheel bearing on my bro's KQ,30 dollars for the bearing,10 bucks for a stinking seal.I can purchase brakes ALL THE WAY AROUND on my car for 40 bucks.I have 8000 dollars invested in my 99 Sportsman,but what are we to do,if we want something bad enough,we'll pay the price.Yes it Irks me,but whats a QUADALHOLIC to do?--BILL
Posted by: alibaba
Everything today is overpriced. The worst value for an atv ever-Bombardier Traxter. It didn't get good reviews, and was an extremely expensive quad. The timberwolf 4x4 has been a popular seller because its a cheap 4x4. If they placed that in the 5000 range I bet no one would take it. It's just that if someone can get a 300 4x4 quad in the 4000 range that would be great. But thats not gonna happen. Prices are just going up. ATVs have become incredibly popular and therefore prices can be jacked high for new buyers. I like the Wolverine. Its just a great 4x4 in the mid 5000's
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Alibaba
'98 Honda 300ex, '97 Honda Recon, '86 TRX125
Posted by: tsacchetti
Hey administrator.......Please tell me where you can get a new car for $6000 - $7000 ....I'll buy ten of them......as far as the price for a new quad exceeding that range......I believe it will go as high as the market will bear....... I hate to quote my father but...people buy them, it just doesnt mean you have to.
Posted by: Phoenix1
They are going to charge whatever we are willing to pay. That is the law of supply and demand. I feel that they are making a heafty profit, or else new manufactures would not be getting into the game. You can but a Kia for about $9500, just a couple of thousand over the big bore machines (although, in my opinion, a Kia is barely a car), but a lot more time and money is spent engineering a car, there are a lot more parts involved (airbags, radios, spare tires) just kidding on that last one. I feel that the big machines should go for about $3500 - $4000, but at the rate that they are selling, that will never happen. But wouldn't it be great to be able to buy a 250 for $1800 - $2000? I would like to hear others input.
Posted by: TXwarrior
I agree that today's ATV's are inline with inflation and are worth the money, what kills me is the price of after market parts. You can easily spend an additional $1000.00 to $2000.00 on performance parts, and not to mention just replacing stock parts like starters , I'm sorry, no electric starter that fits on any ATV should cost $250+++. Like stated above!! "It's better than picking weeds on Sunday", spend the money, have fun, you only live once.
TXwarrior
