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Posted by: scrambler123
350x's are slow they are about as fast as a stock warrior.
Posted by: TomM
My friends 350X does upper 50's in real life and 71 online. It's all stock except for a Cobra pipe. It accelerates a little slower than my 86LT250 with a shaved head and FMF silencer (stock pipe) which is pretty good for an 80's 4 stroke. In the dirt he could stay right behind me until he hit top end.
Posted by: TomM
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Originally posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
This forum is like "beating a dead horse" img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> There is no question that a 6 speed 350x will haul @$$
I wasnt aware they had 6 gears. Maybe thats why my freinds 350X with a Cobra exaust otherwise stock wont break 60, he only has 5 gears. And here I though all these people claiming 70+mph were full of it.
Posted by: TomM
I'll have to check his out. I only rode it a few times but could swear it only had 5 gears. It wouldnt keep up with my 86 LT250 that did 60.5 on GPS and there sure are a lot of high claims here. Maybe his has a tranny problem and we didnt even know it.
Posted by: TomM
I checked my friends. It shifts into all 6 gears. I think a lot of people must have bigger tires and not realize that it is not stock. His is bone stock other than a Cobra pipe and does upper 50's.
Posted by: TomM
I don&39;t think he&39;s likely to drive to Missouri to race a 200X. As for saying you smoked a 350X you can already do that. What happens in reality doesn&39;t make any difference online.
Posted by: Badass350X
mines all stock...except uni air box vents (6) and mine goes damn near 70
Posted by: ThreeWRacer
hey troll, your right withthe size of the motar but 70cc to 480cc is kind of overkill. The rest of the forum ist talking 200cc to 350 cc. 2 strokes naturaly turn more rpms, there for speed would be higher with the same gearing. Usually if you take a 350x motar and bore it out to 400 chances are (with same gearing) it would be slower top speed. Acceleration would increase but top speed would be lower. You have to remember the bigger bore piston is heavier than stock. So it takes more energy to push the piston.
Posted by: ThreeWRacer
well im goin with hmfic. he sounds like he knows what hes talkin about
Posted by: ThreeWRacer
haha nice
Posted by: ThreeWRacer
Well, Cdogg your contributing to this post to so.............. need i say more. Well, what the hell im contributing to it to so who cares right? Anyways I agree with Hondawontdie, Lets see who is the real atc rider and ride in the woods. Thats good fun. But it will make one heck of a rider out of ya.
Posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
I have had mine up to 52 mph...that was half throttle in 5th gear......So my 200x will pull an easy 60mph.....with a little gear change 70mph would be easy. There are no bad things about a Honda 3-wheeler.....just look at the forum,,,,all these people in the forum.....most of these trikes are 20+ years old!!!!! Finding other brands are pretty slim right now! So Honda must have made a darn good machine!
Posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
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Originally posted by: Wes350x
I clocked mine yesterday and it hit 67. But I have 20 inch tires and stock gearing. I did it with a radar gun so its accurate.
That is damb fast for a stock trike with 20's!
Posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
Size of the engine makes no difference in top speed, only how fast you get there. Either that 350X was SCREAMING and ready to chunk, or your gearing is a little different than stock. One or two teeth make a big difference. What are the teeth counts you are running. (I am not doughting you, I am just interested) The 20" tires are the weird part. 2" in height makes a HUGE difference in curcumference, and makes you cover ground faster with the same engine rpm.
Posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
Hey WES.....I noticed in the newest pic, you changed your rear tires....What did you do with the holeshots????
Posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
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Originally posted by: siegy
thrash my 200x(85) will hit around 63 toped out when it was stock. i was clocked by a car and yes ive already subtract bout 3 MPH for the difference, so drummer guy i have no doupt that a 350x would hit 70
THRASH u should went 12:1 and powroll 240 kit there badddd
I had no choice!!!! I bought it that way.......Check this out.....I bought it from a guy at work for $300 it had the head fully port and polished, and let me say it had the best blend job around the valve guide I have ever seen! It had the 10.5 piston it it too! It ran like a champ from day one......I only found out it had this stuff because I took it apart to put a timing cain and guide in it.
But .....if it ever brakes you can bet on me having the 12 to 1 , the XR200R cam, stiff valve springs and the XR200R carb! The it will be pretty much maxed for a 200x!!!!!
Posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
DARN!!!! I was hopeing you were looking for someone to buy the holeshots! img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
Posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
TROLL, If you take the SAME trike with 2 engines that run the same RPM and TRANS gearing. You go the same darn top speed no madder if one has 100 more horse power. Horse power pulls you through it, gearing controls what you do with it.
Posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
cdogg........Where are you located?????, Il or Mo side? You ever go to Folton? or St. Joe?
Posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
This forum is like "beating a dead horse" img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> There is no question that a 6 speed 350x will haul @$$
Posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
the 85-86 had the 6 speed trans.
Posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
In that case.........Set me up with a race....I would love to say I smoked a 350x!img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
Posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
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Originally posted by: WeelMan
I don know how you all have your 350x set up but i have a stock bore , 12/1 wiscoe piston i installed heavy duty valve springs with spark plug washers under them a one size over jet with a White brothers header a 15 tooth front sprocket and a 36 tooth rear sprocket with factory tires and have been clocked with as radar gun at 105 mph. and have been know to bust Banchees ass on bottom or top end. The 350 X is the Best Fastest 3wheeler honda ever made. the reason for the heavy duty valve springs is because the 350 doesn't have a
Rev limiter and the reason it turns out and quit turning is because it turns till it Floats the Valves and adding heavy duity valve springs allows it to turn an additional 1000 rpm
BULL-crap....Bullcrap!!!!!!!!!! Welcome to the forum, but you are foolish to think anyone will believe 105 MPH on a 350x
Posted by: atcpowermadman
i have multipe 350x's one is stock the other has a cam and the other has a curtis sparks 405 dual carb motor the stocker has 22inch realiters with stock gearign and will hit 72mph on my gps but when i have the 20inch shreders on it it will hit a top speed of 59mph and thats stock. the one with cam has a cam and a dg rcm exaust that will hit 74 on the gps with 22inch mud busters on itstock gearign and i also have a set of a set of 22 inch gators it will pull them to 74mph before i overrev the motor. and the 405 motor ha sa stock front strocket and a 32rear with 20 inch duro flattrack tires and it hasuls ass it does that will do 84mph but takes a little longer to get the revs up to the point wher eit will really pull.but it is fast. it will keep right up with my piped bansheeon th3e roads. and my stocker 350x will smoke all my friends banshee;s in the woods and is almost deadeven with a z400 with a yoshi pipe.thats my records and my experiances so it's the facts but uf u dissagree your azllowed to but doubt i will argueover somethign stupid lit this
Posted by: atcpowermadman
i agree exept for one thing it all depends on the triver and how well your x was taken care of how far do you wanan push the limits of your old trike. me personaly i am fast in the woods i can hang right with a the 416 400's and my 2 friends r;s and even a few yfz's it's pretty sad when i can smoke a kx250 on a 350x with flat realitors ont he rear but thats just what i have done i dont know how good fo a rider i am and how good he is but i have ridden with a few pro riders and have hung pertty clos eon my old trike. so i assume i'm pretty fast. well what it all comes down to is i love all my 350's even the old beater the stocker and the 2 worked ones and i even have one turned into a fatcat but i love trikes in general and i have fun isnt that what the point is ?and as far as honda being the worse i had a 85250sx and i got ti when i was young i was about 9 i got it in 1992 used and beat on pretty good and i never knew u had to change oil i just addd it once or twice a month. well make a long story short i ran it g untill 1996when i got my blaster and i finaly changed the oil for the first time in july of 2003 and it still runs like a top no problems ever!
Posted by: sharpie
calm down man. now reely, 85 is alittle excessive. something is worng here.
Posted by: Wes350x
I clocked mine yesterday and it hit 67. But I have 20 inch tires and stock gearing. I did it with a radar gun so its accurate.
Posted by: Wes350x
Well drummerboy, dont f*ckin beleive me, I dont have to lie to impress you. I thought it was fast for stock gearing also. I have 13/40 sprockets and 5psi in my tires. Dude, I had no idea it was that fast cause it has so much bottom end, It seems to rev a little higher but I think its from the port job.
Posted by: Wes350x
Same thing that clocked me, Look believe what you want. I am not going to sit here and argue how fast my bike is, Im sorry it did that fast, For your sake I wish it would do 40, so yours can be better.
Posted by: Wes350x
Yeah trash, I did change them. Those are 21in Rawhide 1. They are off a 200x. But I put the holeshots back on cause one of those tires has a leak and its so thin walled the tire folds under the rim then I slide it. I also had to change the front cause It was about time for one, I had an old factory off my 300 I threw on it.
Posted by: drummerguy84
i got 20" tires...I guess....55-60 tops.... for my 350x
Posted by: drummerguy84
MY 350X ISNT SLOW..Id race ya on any trail..60mph is plenty fast for trail and MX racing.
Posted by: drummerguy84
im finding it hard to belive it went 67..did you go down hill? I got a 350x with 20 tires, and im lucky to hit 55-60....stock gears...
Posted by: drummerguy84
well..my engine seems to be running fine, I'm pulling drags faster then the 400EX....and hills climbs like a mother...lol...but I DID have 22" on it...belive me...it feels like it drops 10-15mph when I went to the 20"...theres NO way its hittin 70 mph with 20" tires..unless ur goin down hill...or someone is pushing you w/ a car....
Posted by: drummerguy84
any time, wesly. and being that I got a cop to clock me, I am certin it hits 56
Posted by: drummerguy84
yea its on...y?..
Posted by: drummerguy84
Well lets think about it, I got stock sprockets on it, and I went from 22" to 20" tires, which will drop it from 70 to about 60, and I didnt feel like pushin the bike to the limits on a curving road...lol...but it only feels like 55-60, but w/ the 22" tires, it feels alot more, but its alot eaiser to tip. and what year is ur 250x? I mean, being the trike is almost as old as me, 60 mph is pretty darn good.
Posted by: drummerguy84
meh..I dont care anymore, I sold it for $1,300
Posted by: pondrunner
What is the top speed on a 350x. Someone is saying that honda is the worst three wheeler ever. And thought theat I would show him this. Tell me all the good tings about honda three-wheelers and some bad things. if any?
Posted by: pondrunner
what about an 84 honda 200s
Posted by: pondrunner
thats bull! i know that my dads 86 350x would go around 85. Because there was someone riding beside him in a car. And it was bonme stock, and brand new. but it still sould beat that 250r. My dads friend had an 84 250r with an oversized carb, jetted adn it had a pipe. and he could beat him start to finish. He also said that it would beat an 85 350x. he said that he could beat by 10 ft or so.
Posted by: LittleD
An 82R will only go 65?
Posted by: Cdogg
This was on a thread on 3wheeler.org posted by MR. ATC. This should end the mass confusion in earlier posts. Radar and GPS are the only way to accurately measure speed...
"the end all list... TOP SPEED of "my" trike
here is a list of the "aproximate" Average top speed of the majority of the most popular 3Wheeled ATV's. this list is based on severall criteria including magazine articals and test, manufactures "claimed" top speed, ( before lawsuits the manufactures were not afraid to post top speed in there spec sheets), and personall experiance using such equpiment as radar guns, atv mounted factory aproved and tested speedometers, side by side riding with comparable ( i.e. XL on-off road m/c's) by riding on flat paved sufaces on distance's of over two miles. (how fast your buddy, the cops, or whoever had to accelerate to to catch up to you on your trike is not the same).
NOTE, this is Based on brand new showroom stock 3 wheelers. NO modifications or 15yr plus machines. rebuilt or not. (there is more to a rebuild then just piston and rings).
Tiger 500..........................................................................90+mph
Tiger 250..........................................................................85+mph
(note Tigers were not production trikes. each Tiger was hand made to original customer specs. this is just a average estimate)
86/87 Tecate 250.............................................................85mph
86 ATC 250R.....................................................................83mph
85 ATC 250R.....................................................................80mph
84/85 Tecate....................................................................78mph
86 TRI Z 250.....................................................................76mph
83/84 ATC 250R................................................................74mph
85 ATC 350X.....................................................................72 mph
85 TRI Z 250.....................................................................69mph
81/82 ATC 250R................................................................65mph
86/87 ATC 200X................................................................62mph
83-85 ATC 200X................................................................58mph
83 ATC 185s......................................................................55mph
81/82 ATC 200..................................................................54mph
79-85 ATC 110..................................................................48mph
more models updated soon.
hopefully this will limit the number of "how fast will my trike go" post the are repetative"
Posted by: Cdogg
55-60mph is slow for a stock 350 with stock gearing and 20in. tires... A bone stock 350 should run at least 70mph. If everything is up to par on the trike(bearings, brakes not dragging etc.) I did not GPS mine with the factory tires on it which grew even larger than 22in. the faster it went. But I did race a 400EX with 22in. tires(20in. stock) and a pipe, and I was a hair faster on top end, probably less than 1mph. Then I put 20in. Holeshots on it and had my GPS shortly after. So here are my speeds with a couple different gearing combos I have tried all with 20in. tires.
-stock gearing- 64-65mph
-14/40- 69-70mph
-14/37- 71-72mph
The only thing done to my bike--UNI air filter,removed flame arrestor from OEM muffler, 20in. Holeshots.
Posted by: Cdogg
Thrash,Sent you a PM let me know if you got it...
Posted by: Cdogg
Yes, this thread is getting WAY out of hand! It shows that most people don't know their head from their azz when it comes to a 350X! This thread needed one reply not 3 pages. How fast is a 350X? Well bone stock, yes I said bone stock... They will run at least 70 mph... Yes 70 mph, It was proven a long time ago when they first came out. There are several factors that affect speed. Need I list them?? Anyways most don't argue the top speed of a stock 400EX. They run 65-67, maybe 68 on a good day... Well, a 350X is slightly faster than a 400EX, stock for stock. For those of you that dont believe the 350 vs. 400 statement that was just made. The 350X is rated at 27 h.p. and weighs 320 lbs. The 400EX is rated at 28 h.p. and weighs 375 lbs. Do the math and hopefully things are making sense now. LOL! I am sure someone out there or someones buddy has raced a stock 350X against a stock 400EX and the 400EX won. Well, yes a new 400EX will beat a 19 year old wore out stock 350 with low compression, bad wheel bearings, dragging brakes, smaller tires etc. etc. etc. Catch my drift? So yes the number of bone stock 350X's that run 70mph are few and far between. With this being said and the question regarding the speed of a 350 answered. Answered CORRECTLY! Are any more replies needed to this thread after the facts have been laid out?
Posted by: siegy
yea hondas are best 3 wheeler made, and a 350x will out run most quads today, except the new 450's and the KFX"S woud be pretty close but the 350 was made 17 yrs ago, and my 200x will smoke just bout all the utilites around cept fro the really big bores, tell that person to come and this forum and bad mouth hondas, jus see what happen
85 200x
too much stuff to name lol!
Posted by: siegy
thrash my 200x(85) will hit around 63 toped out when it was stock. i was clocked by a car and yes ive already subtract bout 3 MPH for the difference, so drummer guy i have no doupt that a 350x would hit 70
THRASH u should went 12:1 and powroll 240 kit there badddd
Posted by: siegy
hey drumer guy did u put your rear grab bar on?????
Posted by: whitebroskfx440
hey drummerguy your a funny one...my TRX 250x tops at almost 60 and your saying a 350 with only 3 wheels does 56 whats are you talking about
Posted by: Lomax
There is nothing wrong with Honda's machine. they were the finest 3-wheelers made period! Sure the Tecate-3 was faster than the 250r (so i have heard anyway). But how many of them do you still see? I know there are not alot of 250r's but I have seen way more of them than i ever thought about seeing Tecate's. that was the hardest run ATC made and there still out there going strong. And this is coming from someone who rides a YAMAHA everyday.
Posted by: HRCfan1
Hondas were the best three wheelers made period. Sure the others were good but they were no comparison. How many 200cc or 350cc machines did the others have to compare against the 200 and 350X. NONE!! The reason you see so many more honda 250Rs, 200X and 300Xs is because they outsold the competition 2to1. No lie! But as some one who LOVES the old three wheelers I would love to have a Tecate and TriZ to restore to sit in my colection along with my 250R. Because with the demise of the factory three wheelers and the domination of the four wheelers in the marketplace it isn't worth griping about which manufacturer had the better three wheeler. If you can find any three wheeler in decent shape that was well cared for then that's a raretty and it's only going to get more rare so get em' while you can!
Posted by: hondawontdie
A 350X will go plenty fast........ My stock big red will go 45mph. Its a 200. A 350X is a wild ride with alot of top end. Everything is a bike war here. Oh the good thing about a honda it can be fixed quite easily, as for the rest of the bike that are not so backyard mechanic friendly.
Posted by: hondawontdie
a 350 will definetly do 65 -70. your bike may not be working the best. A buddy of mine has a 450 foreman and my trike will go side by side up to 80km/hr. which is roughly 45 -50 mph. going down a slight grade it peaked at 84km. its only a 200.
Posted by: hondawontdie
This forum gets a little out of hand..........
Whatever is said online just minus 20mph. If buddy has a 350x that will go that fast its not stock......... maybe mod'd with a 600RR engine.
The 86 R is the fastest bike they made........ the 350x was right there with it. nuff said. No matter how many cars, trucks, bikes, policecars and radar guns we use to gauge how fast your trike goes....... it doesn't matter, as long as you have a good time riding.
I just have a question for all you drag racing buffs........ why drag race, when it shows 99% bike ability and 1% driver?
Everyone knows that trikes are a little tippy not as balanced as the 4 wheelers, so show your skill and take your 250R or your 350x out into the woods or in the sand make a 1 mile track with actual turns and use a stop watch to clock your speed.........
Posted by: HMFIC
First of all I would like to say that I love honda trikes. I have two 110's. a 185s, and my 85 250R that is bone stock except for the .050 overbore from 19yrs. of use. Last time I was at the dunes a buddy of mine broght his 350X with a 425 big bore kit and the goodies to go with it and I still beat him by a trike length at the drags over and over. Before I bought my 250R I was looking for a 350X but in all honesty they really haven't impressed me. Niether do my 110's but I still love em. My 250R goes 80mph beside my girlfriends sunfire, 110 goes 46 with the tires aired up good and tight, my 185s goes 60 but I uped the front sproket 2 teeth, but it has been bored to a 200cc and I have a web cam and a cobra pipe, with my 17 tooth front spoket on my banshee I can sit her sunfire still when she is cutting off at 105mph and I won't even go into what I have done to it or my wallet my start crying from the abuse I put it through.
Posted by: HMFIC
There is also a huge difference between an 84 250R and an 85. I don't think they share a single part. The only place I have heard of a stock 350X going 85 is on a trailer behind a corvette.
Posted by: Troll
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Originally posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
Size of the engine makes no difference in top speed, only how fast you get there.
I dont see how that could be. Just take 84' 250r and see how fast it would go. Then pull the engine out and install a 480cc two-stroke.
I bet the extra twenty h.p. will overcome the drag created by wind resistance, recipicating weight and tire drag.
It should have a higher top speed. Plus you could then gear it alot higher to go even faster with the extra power avalible.
Anyway, interesting..............
My 350X's
Posted by: Troll
O.K. , this is all in good fun and no offence to anyone. Actully your right in your original post in this thread and as far as gearing goes.
Except.
Let's say we go to boniville salt flats to do some testing.
For example, if we put a stock 70cc honda atc engine and put it in a 200x. Then gear it with 14/35 gearing with 22" tires.
Now go out and see what the top speed will be. It would be lucky to be able to get out of second gear. I dont think the top speed would be very high. I dont think it's very likely to have enough power to pull our trike over 40 mph.
Now take out that engine and put in a 480cc air cooled two-stroke with 51 h.p. I'd say it would go extreamly fast with the same gearing. I'm sure it will go over 80 m.p.h.
As I say, I find this interesting and welcome a reply......................................... BR>Pic of my stuff
Posted by: Jake223
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Originally posted by: scrambler123
350x's are slow they are about as fast as a stock warrior.
SLOWWWW down on the pipe!!!
Posted by: JkAss
Who cares what the top speed is? It only matters if your bike is too slow for you. If it is, throw a crotch rocket engine in it and it wont matter anymore. You'll be faster than everyone on your block. Put a 998 in it you'll do 140mph no problem. Then have your family invite us to the funeral. Ride only as fast as YOU can handle. Unless you drag race it really doesn't matter, as long as you are having a good time and staying alive doing it. That's my 3 cents
PS Hondas are the best 3-Wheelers ever made so tell your friend to try smoking something different in his pipe.
Posted by: ACFreerider
If your 350X isnt breaking 60mph theres something seriously wrong with it. My 200x would hit a little over 60 granted that was driving along side a car but same results multilple times and with different cars. A 350x should do in the 65-70mph range stock and with 20in tires I don't think thatd make more then a few mph difference not 10mph
Posted by: Splat
I was wondering why everyone is obesessed with straight line top speed - YAWN - not to exciting if ya ask me - which ya didnt - anyway - i love my 350 and when i am more comfy on it plan to do a few mods. Anyone that has one or ridden one knows they are bad azz bikes. When we are on the trail and stop people come up to me all the time to comment on my bike and how much they want one - these are guys on 2002 - 2005 quads and they are drooling over my 1985 350 - that says a hell of a lot to me.
well all this reading has given me the itch - i think i am gunna go for a ride.
Posted by: trike
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Originally posted by: pondrunner
thats bull! i know that my dads 86 350x would go around 85. Because there was someone riding beside him in a car. And it was bonme stock, and brand new. but it still sould beat that 250r. My dads friend had an 84 250r with an oversized carb, jetted adn it had a pipe. and he could beat him start to finish. He also said that it would beat an 85 350x. he said that he could beat by 10 ft or so.
This has been said time and time again clocking a trike with a car is very un accurate.
Posted by: Ty12391
i have a 125m 1984 and it goes like 47 so im sure a 350 can do atleast 70... my friend had a 350 and it goes 77 but he redid his gears a bit
Posted by: TrikeMan05
the 350 X is the Best Fastest 3wheeler honda ever made.
Nope wrong. '85, '86 ATC 250R was the fastest three wheeler honda ever made. Not as much torque, but more top speed. Or the prototype ATC 500R was the fastest three wheeler ever made. I guess it all depends on how you look at it. Production vs Prototype.
Posted by: WeelMan
I don know how you all have your 350x set up but i have a stock bore , 12/1 wiscoe piston i installed heavy duty valve springs with spark plug washers under them a one size over jet with a White brothers header a 15 tooth front sprocket and a 36 tooth rear sprocket with factory tires and have been clocked with as radar gun at 105 mph. and have been know to bust Banchees ass on bottom or top end. The 350 X is the Best Fastest 3wheeler honda ever made. the reason for the heavy duty valve springs is because the 350 doesn't have a
Rev limiter and the reason it turns out and quit turning is because it turns till it Floats the Valves and adding heavy duity valve springs allows it to turn an additional 1000 rpm
Posted by: WeelMan
well Trash you can think any thing you want . all i can say is i live in Seagrove NC and any one that wants to seee it run that speed , is more than welcome to come here and i'll prove it. i have been riding since 85 , i had the first 350 that was put on the show room floor in Rockingham NC after i did the mods. i spoke ov i raced the ama open pro class thru from 85 to 88. after i quit racing i transfered the enging to a mint condition frame i purchased and have in in my building ready to go. seeing is believing and anyone is welcome to come see it for there self