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Posted by: mywifesquad
Welcome to the forum ghcoe!
All the mechaincal knowledge in the world wont help if you cant find parts. I would spend a few more bucks and buy something from RaceWayATV. They have been around quite a while and have parts for everything they sell. But if you want/need to save a few hundred, with their new parts site probably will have parts for what ever brand quad you buy. Keep us updated with your purchase if you have the time.
Posted by: hoytultratec
well i own a couple of china quads they have been alright no major problems few little things, but my wife and son drive them if i was driving them they wouldnt last im rough on my stuff and i know some people have had goodluck with the utility quads.
but for a few more bucks you can find a used jap quad that will hold up better for a adult it will be easier to get service and this is a big thing if your not good at turning a wrench.
im looking for a used scrambler and trailblazer in spring to replace the two china quads im just looking for a little better qaulity for long trail rides up north. so it all depends what your gonna use it for are you gonna beat it? or is it gonna have a easy life?
good luck
hoyt
Posted by: hoytultratec
buy from raceway or go buy a jap quad...just make sure you can get parts for that thing or your screwed. if your near wisconsin i will sell you a kazuma 250 falcon in mint shape wife driven only a few times for real cheap.
Posted by: Noxzema
Are You kidding me! buy a Suzuki Ozark 250! they are less than $3000. They are fantastic in the reviews as a 4x2! they are better than some 4x4's. Dude, do some research. I have a China atv and i wait and wait for parts. you will need parts! Spend the extra few dollars. Its so close to the price of the Chinese one. Suzuki has a shaft and is bulletproof! and has resale and class!
Posted by: Noxzema
That's retail, I have seen them many times for about 2700. end of year stuff at local dealers. I am also a mechanic and have taken these things (china atvs) apart. the quality is poor, you will regret it. suspension is terrible too, the list goes on. Welding and rusting are breaking parts are too common. I don't travel too far from home cuz it does conk out a lot. With the suzuki you will get 90% resale on your price you paid, you will get nothing for the China quad. Hey, I was cheap too, i reget it. Save another grand and go in and negoiate, you owe it to yourself to just go and Look at a Japenese. Have you ever seen a China quad up close?
Posted by: Noxzema
I've been waiting for 3 months for my axle thats on backorder from RACEWAY. this is my 3rd backorder part. It's not raceways fault, the fault lies at the China distributors. But anyhow, you will need parts and it's a coin toss which ones are BACKORDERED. I miss riding my ATV. I wish i had bought a quality bike. I can deal with wrenching but if you can't get the parts, it is useless.....useless...useless...useless..
End of Tread!
Posted by: Noxzema
A lot of metal shavings in the gearbox?
Enjoy your new quad!
Posted by: Noxzema
keep us informed, I love my Kazuma, when in runs.
My gearbox failed back when, it blew a hole in the side.
The atv does its job but requires a lot a care and is very unsafe at anything faster than a walking pace. I wait many months for parts, some are in stock and some are backordered. Mine has currently been down the whole summer waiting for a part.
enjoy
Posted by: kickass210
so buy a used one for the same price as that. i noticed the machine u were looking at had single A-arm in front and weighed 528 net weight. that almost as much as a big bore with about 10 hp
Posted by: breid444
I have a 250 giovanni utility quad and I have to say,if you are not mechanically inclined then you should not buy one of these chinese quads.I had a few issues with the quad and it rides very rough.You get what you pay for and if you are serious about quading then I would not recommend one of thewe quads!!!
Posted by: SteveMO
Being mechanically inclined is great, getting the parts is going to be the problem. The dealers will tell you whatever you want to hear to get the sale, then when you need parts, they won't be able to get them quickly either. The part problem may get better eventually once the Chinese figure out they can make more money selling a supportable bike, but right now that certainly isn't the case. It is sad when you have to buy your parts on ebay.
Posted by: ghcoe
Well I know that I will probably get a lot of raz about buying a china quad but the price is right for me. Now I know my way around mechanics quite well and have tried to scrounge up enough information to make a solid decision on this purchase. There is not enough good information out there. I have found that people like them a lot or not at all. I think most dislikes are byous just like brand loyalty. Well I have never owned a quad before so I will have nothing to compare too so maybe I am the perfect canidate. If I do not like it it is because I don't like it. If I like it it is because it is doing exactly what I wanted it to do. So I thought I would do a write up of my experiances with this endevor.
First off I have done a lot of looking. I have come to the conclusion that most of the quads that I am looking at are the same exact quad with the same exact motor. Some advertise any combo of disc/drum, 4speed/5speed, chain drive/shaft, but the bodies and motors are the same.
The unit I am looking at is similar to this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...WQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
The one I am looking at is a 200cc, not water cooled, has a 5 speed, shaft drive with disc front and back. Price to the door is $1580.00.
George
Posted by: ghcoe
Originally posted by: Noxzema
Are You kidding me! buy a Suzuki Ozark 250! they are less than $3000. They are fantastic in the reviews as a 4x2! they are better than some 4x4's. Dude, do some research. I have a China atv and i wait and wait for parts. you will need parts! Spend the extra few dollars. Its so close to the price of the Chinese one. Suzuki has a shaft and is bulletproof! and has resale and class!
Suzuki Ozark 250 MSRP*: $3,499. From
http://www.suzuki-bikes.com/ozark250.php
You do realize I am paying less than half that! And yes, I do have knowlege in mechanics.
George.
Posted by: ghcoe
Actually, it is a strut which eliminates the upper a arm. Saves weight. I am not a speed demon so hp does not matter to me as long as it has a deep 1st. Speed just tends to break stuff and I like my bones in one piece.
George.
Posted by: ghcoe
Thanks for the welcome. I will keep this thread informed on my experiences. Hope that this will help others with there purchases as well...
Raceway sells the Hunter which is very simular to the one I will be purchasing. The one I am looking at comes with a 12 month (parts only) warranty!
George.
Posted by: ghcoe
All,
Well went and ordered a utility quad yesterday. The people I dealt with were very friendly and informational. I bought from a ebay seller that has a great record with ebay and has been a ebay member for 10 years so I figured these guys were not fly by night.
The price was $1580.50 with delivery to my door. They told me it would take 3 to 5 business days for delivery. I'll keep you posted.
George.
Posted by: ghcoe
Got the call today that my quad has arrived. Paid for it Thursday, shipped Friday, here Wednesday, not bad. Unfortunatly I missed the call and will have to have it delivered to the house tomorrow. George.
Posted by: ghcoe
Well received my quad this week. I have to admit I am impressed with this unit. Turns out it is a Marshin. Well put everything together and started it up, no problems, drives nice and has lots of power. In fact it has way more power than I expected for a machine that weights 500 lb. I did notice that every bolt on the motor and chassis were color marked as being checked. Also chassis bolts are nyloc nuts. Was going to go and locktight everything but I do not think I will need to. Did drain the oils and replaced with fresh. Glad I did, there was a lot of metal shavings in the gear cases. Engine oil was better, but still had a little flake. This unit was road ready. Has turn signals, horn and rearview mirrors, which were not advertised. Nice touch.
George.
Posted by: ghcoe
Preventive maintenance, that's what it is all about. Remember when you buy any quad the oils have already been changed by the dealer. You do not know if they were contaminated or not. You'll never be the wiser. I changed the oils before I even started it up to help prevent any unnecessary wear so indeed, I will enjoy my ride!
George.
