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Posted by: Raptorlegs
Anything that runs is worth $400.
Posted by: smb05
At $400 you could buy two and not have to worry about where to get parts. I would not really worry about parts. The Loncin engines are pretty good and since they are a Honda clone parts are easy to find. As far as the frame and the rest of the quad you should be able to get parts from most Chinese dealers. For $400 what do have to lose. Since you know your not purchasing a $2000 quad I'd say go for it. And go have fun for as long as the quad lasts. If you think about it if you were to rent a 90cc quad for a weekend it would cost half of the purchase price.
SB.
Posted by: smb05
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Originally posted by: speedknot
Just to clarify. I didnt make myself clear. The Hensim 70cc I can get for $400, but this is the small frame model that my son will probably grow out of in a few months. The orange 90cc in the pics is the one Im contemplating picking up. This one is around $625 delivered. The $400 Hensim has some decent support behind it but its just too small. Im just a bit shakey on this 90cc un-named model. No one seems to know what factory this comes out of. hr>
Whether it's $400 or $625 you could still buy 2 and have one for parts. I wouldn't be concerned with the factory it comes out of, really at $625 or even $1500 who gives a rats a__. As long as it runs that's all that matters. You are trying to have fun at a cheap price. Chinese quads are all pretty much the same. Just make sure you assemble it properly, and it will probably run for a long time. As long as you don't beat the heck out of it. Regardless of who makes, imports, or distributes these quads they are disposable. There is very little to no resale value in these quads. It will all depend on the condition the quad is in a the time of the sale.
SB.
Posted by: squeege
Did you not see that raceway atv has a sale on floor models?
Posted by: squeege
http://forums.atvconnection.com/messageview.cfm/catid/53/threadid/504791.cfm
I hear the falcon mini delux 90 is good for the money......I would buy that one IMHO
Posted by: SEADAWG
I agree with SB05, at $400.00 it can't hurt...or buy two and never have to worry about parts. SEADAWG
Posted by: godIlove2ride
Single A-arm bad...Dual A-arm good. The best advice I can give you though is to call John at Raceway, and fit your son up to one of his. With Raceway, anything he sells, will have parts availability, plus he truly stands behind every quad he sells. My two cents worth about one cent. Either avenue you decide to go, good luck! I have a 5 yr old who still rides a Kazuma Meerkat, and he loves it. But he will soon outgrow it too. He rolled it two weeks ago, has a little handlebar rash on his stomach. Scared the crap out of me, but after I checked and found out he was okay, I laughed at him. He was trying to do doughnuts. What a hot dog! I can see I will have to watch him carefully all of his life and bring lots of gauze and bandages!
Posted by: dealseaker
i agree with the others, buy it, 400 is pretty cheap!
Posted by: speedknot
Hi all. New to this forum.
Im in the market to get my little guy a new quad. He's 6 yrs old and is about 46" now. With the way he is growing he'll be 50" tomorrow morning. I was looking at the Hensim 70cc quad which seems like its packed with really nice safety features. Seems like its a decent machine. I can get it locally for only $400. However it looks kinda small for him. I can see him growing out of that frame size real soon.
He came across this new model the other day on ebay which he is dead set on getting. He is set on the looks and I have to admit it is a great looking unit. It looks like its pretty new to the market. Manufacture wise, the only thing I know about it is that Loncin makes the engine. It seems like its so new that there isnt much of a support base for it yet. I came across just a couple of vendors for this and they cant tell me much about it(safety features, maker, parts base). Does any one know who makes this? Link:
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I know that if you buy enough units from one of these chinese manufacturers, they will brand it any name you want. Seems like many of these units are similar in parts and features. Looks like the engines are all the same Honda clone type with a few variations. Similar quality(good or bad) as well. Correct me if Im wrong on that. I'm very handy when it comes to small engines so im prepared for the "get what you pay for" headaches, but getting the parts and support is another story and Im not prepared to shell out $2500-$3000 for a name brand quad that will get used for maybe a year or two. Feel free to give your two or three cents here on this. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.
Posted by: speedknot
Just to clarify. I didnt make myself clear. The Hensim 70cc I can get for $400, but this is the small frame model that my son will probably grow out of in a few months. The orange 90cc in the pics is the one Im contemplating picking up. This one is around $625 delivered. The $400 Hensim has some decent support behind it but its just too small. Im just a bit shakey on this 90cc un-named model. No one seems to know what factory this comes out of.
Posted by: speedknot
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Originally posted by: squeege
Did you not see that raceway atv has a sale on floor models?
No. Im on the site now but dont see anything. Send me a link. mrdjc@verizon.net
Posted by: speedknot
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Originally posted by: kbi
Speedknot - Like you, I'm new to this forum. I'm in the same situation you are in terms of trying to decide what to buy. Have you made a decision yet? If so, I'd like to know what you decided to go with. Additionally, could you send me the link for the youth atv that is mention in your previous posting?
I think im just going to go with the Hensim/Tierra 70cc mini. I researched the company and looked around for parts suppliers and they all seem to be decent. The other quad, the 90cc one that I found on ebay, is what I really want to get but not much in known about it yet. The way I figure it, my son will use the Hensim 70cc for a year or so and then we will pass it down to my daughter. She's the real firecracker out of the two. Then after that time I will re-evaluate the 90cc model. If I see more selling this model and offering parts for it then I will probably pick it up. I dont know what the policy is on this site for posting links of retailers on the forums so if you want, shoot me an email at mrdjc@verizon.net and we can talk more.
If I wasnt handy I probably would steer clear of these chinese models but the way I see it, as long as its properly assembled and maintained it should last at least till they grow out of them. At that time I will get them a nice quality built Yamaha or Honda.
Posted by: speedknot
Dont be so critical of the single A-arm suspension. The problem with the Hensim 70cc is that its not set up properly. This is an engineering problem on Hensims part. I agree, a double arm suspension is better but for a small quad like this a single arm is just fine. I see exactly what you are saying about the front suspension. I took one side apart and devised a way to make it work much better, using two pivot points instead of one. Working in a metal shop will make fabricating it a breeze. Another way to fix it is to immobilize the front entirely so the suspension doesnt compress. Or, you can just send it back. Ya get what you pay for with these things.
Posted by: speedknot
Dont be so critical of the single A-arm suspension. The problem with the Hensim 70cc is that its not set up properly. This is an engineering problem on Hensims part. I agree, a double arm suspension is better but for a small quad like this a single arm is just fine. I see exactly what you are saying about the front suspension. I took one side apart and devised a way to make it work much better, using two pivot points instead of one. Working in a metal shop will make fabricating it a breeze. Another way to fix it is to immobilize the front entirely so the suspension doesnt compress. Or, you can just send it back. Ya get what you pay for with these things.
Posted by: 05HDRAM
I also bought a Hensim 70cc. I agree that there are issues, but nothing I did not expect for the price. My opinion after checking it out is that the front suspension is very stiff. I do not see where a light weight kid is going to cause the front to compress like an adult riding it around. Your looking at 40 or 50 lbs vs 160 to 200. I only expect to get a year or two out of it. I like the fact that is has an excellent disc brake on the rear, and it has a hand lever as well as the footbrake. I did order a set of stud extenders to help with stability.
I do not think the suspension setup is worth beans for a larger child or one that is riding it hard. I do feel it is perfectly safe as a backyard cruiser to learn on. If my son likes riding and wants to stick with it, I will shell out the bucks for a name brand quad. If he decides he does not like it, I am taking much of a loss.
Posted by: kbi
Speedknot - Like you, I'm new to this forum. I'm in the same situation you are in terms of trying to decide what to buy. Have you made a decision yet? If so, I'd like to know what you decided to go with. Additionally, could you send me the link for the youth atv that is mention in your previous posting?
I appreciate your help.
Confused buyer.....
Posted by: becarefulaboutthe70cc
Please be careful buying the 70cc tierra.We just bought one and are now shipping it back. The quad has a singla a-arm suspension instead of a dual arm suspension. The problem with this machine is when you go to turn or slightly lean the front tires go in which in result could make the rear come off the ground. Safety is the most important thing when your child is involved. Test the quad out before buying it.
Posted by: becarefulaboutthe70cc
I don't work in a metal shop so I can"t fabricate the quad nor would I know anything about doing so. I am only interested in the safety of my child. I drove the 70cc and it scared me. Maybe I received a defected quad. I never saw a quad where you step on the front suspension and one tire stays straight and one tire pivots all the way in. I do know that the hensin 70cc tierra does come in a dual a-arm suspension ,which is what we thought we bought according to their specifications of the quad . The company is misleading the public by stated one thing and delivering another.
