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Posted by: garyc660R
50cc and under 2 strokes are exempt from 2006 regs. This will keep the price reasonably low some kids quads. It will also keep lawmakers from having to purchase expensive 4 stroke equipment over less expensive 2 stroke alternatives (weed eaters, leaf blowers, etc.).
Posted by: garyc660R
When was the Elsinore first available? I owned a 79 250 Elsinore as a young boy (about 11-12 yo).
Posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
I took a chance on a 110cc 3 speed automatic MONSTER JOE 4 wheeler.I instruct ATV safety classes and my BUDGET is short..I bought this quad about 8 months ago and like it alot.I've had no problems with it.I paid 1550.It usually goes for 1800 plus tax and freight.It is shaft drive,electric start,reverse,4 stroke,headlight,tailight,brake light,and some very aggressive tires.
Last wk,I ran into the Dinli sales rep and he showed me some off brand,oil injected 2-stroke models called a HORNET.I wound up buying 2 of these models.I paid 2200 for BOTH brand new 90cc ATVs,DELEIVERD!!I used them over the week end in my ATV Safety classes and I like these quads also.They are electric start,with a manual choke,automatic,adjustable shocks,lights,brake lights,tail lights ect.Nice quads for the $$.They retail for 1699.I got a break because im using them in my safety classes.
Bill
Posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
I went to the atvanything.com site and I cant beleive how much money they are asking for some of these off brand quads.Its allmost as much as the brand name quads.
They want 1949 for the SAME Hornet 90cc I just bought for 1100 bucks DELEIVERD.
Posted by: terd
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Who cares don't buy any model until it's been out for a couple of years. Almost all first and second year models have thier problems
I kinda agree with quadduck, but it is so hard because so many of these mini's are the same just with different plastics and names. For example: Kazuma is also Zebra, Meerkat. Polaris is also a double for the Alpha Sport brand and Pretty dam close to the Extreme Brand too. There is a site that has alot of quads for you to take a look at. There is one called "VINSON" looks just like the predator.
I can tell you to check it . you will see a bunch of mini's and get an idea of just how many models are out there. He has alot.
The market is flooded w/ mini's just ask around see what others have and then make your choice. It's gonna be hard.
Goodluck
www.anythingatv.com
Posted by: SANDMAN430
the fourstroke engines seem ok but things like the plastic aren't as good as the suzuki or honda
Posted by: SANDMAN430
i have had the honda 90 and the bomb 90 and still have the LT80 (it's a 87) aanother family member has the honda , but the bomb is long gone the suzuki i'll just hang onto it bullet proof, i let kids ride it all the time. my brother had to kasea i think 125 he couldn't get rid of those fast enough. i'd say it is his kids but they can't kill the LT80
Posted by: SANDMAN430
i think it is about the standards things are made to, it has withstood the test of time, korean or not. i tried the new ones and there not the same.
Posted by: Dragginbutt
I agree with Quadduck considering all the complaints we are seeing recently about these machines. I don't know if the issues are quality issues, or just plain hard to get parts/servicing etc... which is to be expected, when little if any after the sale support is available. Still I do feel that the situation seems to be improving as time goes on.... at least from a parts and dealer support standpoint. But they have a LOOOONG way to go.
I wonder if the issues that are coming up are for machines manufactured a couple years ago, and if the new models seem to be moving in the right direction quality control wise? Any one have any data to support either claim?
One other thing I notice is that with all the knock off ATV sales websites we see these days, very few say anything about service, or parts availability... there are some that do, but many do not.... Just a question worth asking.
Posted by: Dragginbutt
Well, my feelings in the past centered around both quality control and maintenance issues. After seeing so many people getting burned by less than professional so called "Dealers".. and knowing that they were going to be left high and dry sooner or later.. it sort of left a bad taste in my mouth... I am not sure if I am getting used to the taste or not, but it appears that reports are coming in on a regular basis that people are having good experiences with them, and it also appears that some of the manufacturers are working on improving the service and parts availability situation.
I also have listened to many of my friends out there that due to cost considerations have chosen this path... and found an acceptable return on their investment... so yes you can teach an old dog new tricks... I like to think I have an open mind and if you can convince me with facts, I am willing to modify my opinions. I do think there is room for improvement, but it all comes down to managing expectations... and if that works for someone, then I am all for it.
I am just glad to see more people being introduced into our sport. And am encouraged to find that parents are starting to ask questions prior to making their purchase, and are considering issues such as matching the size of the machine to the child, safety training availability, what sort of safety gear should they consider etc... It shows that in a little way, we have begun to educate the masses... and knowledge is power.
Lastly, I have tried to get rid of that big three biggot mentality that I used to have... I don't care what you ride, as long as you are doing it safely and acting responsibly, and are getting enjoyment out of it... that is the bottom line... I welcome everyone out on the trail.
Posted by: Dragginbutt
There used ot be a lot of things a dealer did in years past, but now days, they basically unbox it and push it to the showroom. I have been present on both my last two Yamahas and the Honda, and other than checking fluid levels, not much was done... They put about a quart of gas in it, made sure it started and loaded it up. No tightening required.. just once around the building and on to my trailer.
Posted by: Dragginbutt
Hey man, anyone who remembers the glory days of Bultacos and Maicos is OK in my book... Now I am really dating myself... Like I have said before, I owned the first 250 elsinore in the midwest when they first came out... so I know what it was like in the 'olden days'.
Posted by: Dragginbutt
Yeah, they used to be yellow alright... but I was on a Honda at that point '73, the year I graduated High School....
My Maico was sort of orange... Nothing like a 500 class machine I'll tell ya.. and they sure handled sweet... but for every hour you rode it, you would spend 2 working on it... When the Honda came along, it was a gas and go bike. Strong motor, great handling.. even better than the Maico, and that was saying a lot.
I had mine all painted up and lettered etc.... a throw back to my flat track days... But that is another story... Anyone remember the old Can AM flat trackers that used to be out there? I had one of those... OR the Honda 125 trials bikes? They were way cool... I never owned one, but got to ride it... sweet.
Then there were husky's and CZ's... ooooh, now you are talking.... really old school days... Talk about ugly colors though.. Chili Bean red....
Posted by: Dragginbutt
I think one of the problems is we tend to group many of the off brands together into one category, and that is unfair. There are a few that have been around for a while now that seem to be getting their stuff together and making an honest effort to compete. But there still seems to be a great deal of dumping by companies that are out to make a buck too. With the way the dollar has gone into the celler lately, it is going to be rough for them to remain on the scene...
Posted by: csamayfield55
THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KOREAN(POLARIS) AND CHINESE!!!!!! The Korean quads are as good or better than the Japanese units. The Chinese are JUNK! If you are planning on just cruising around the yard get whats cheap but if you plan on going off road, trails, dunes, jumps and mud, get the better units. Polaris, Dinli, E-Ton, Kasea are all Very Good KOREAN quads. Stay away from the chinese knock offs like the Kazuma
Chris
Posted by: Raptorlegs
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Originally posted by: csamayfield55
THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KOREAN(POLARIS) AND CHINESE!!!!!! The Korean quads are as good or better than the Japanese units. The Chinese are JUNK! If you are planning on just cruising around the yard get whats cheap but if you plan on going off road, trails, dunes, jumps and mud, get the better units. Polaris, Dinli, E-Ton, Kasea are all Very Good KOREAN quads. Stay away from the chinese knock offs like the Kazuma
Chris
Hate to break it to you but the quads you mentioned are chinese/taiwanese. Only one I know of that comes out of Korea is Hyosung or some Suzukis.
Would buy my scrambler clone again in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Raptorlegs
This'll probably break his heart about his Polaris, but.......what the heck!
China QJ Motorcycles
Posted by: Raptorlegs
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Originally posted by: quadduck
Isn't kymco from korea?
Head Office is in Taiwan with plants in Taiwan, China and Indonesia.
Posted by: Raptorlegs
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Originally posted by: SANDMAN430
LT80 (it's a 87)
THAT's Korean!
Posted by: Raptorlegs
Not back when. They were made by Hyosung.
Posted by: Raptorlegs
Eton, Kasea and Dinli ar high quality mini's.
For a cheaper clone I'd look at GPX, Qian Jiang or Sundiro. GPX has the best features, just hasn't been out very long.
Posted by: Raptorlegs
I think Kymco and DRR do. Just not as much bang for the buck.
Be interesting, but keep in mind a lot of their sales are accross seas. They may pull anchor but I'd expect the introduction of new machines.
Posted by: 03250bayou
i reccomend you stay away from them..and stick with honda
Posted by: ostrich
we have two of them a 50c.c. 2-stoke auto and a 150 4-stroke, and couldn't be happier. the 50 is now 3yrs. old, and no major probs. the 150 is 6 mos. old and only one bolt fell out and a loose coil wire, nothing too major. we went on a 45 mi. round trip with them this summer and had zero probs., and my kids really ride the snot out of them. I would say for half the price of a honda they are defiately worth a look! 50 is a polaris scrambler, 150 is a marsin, both chinese(taiwanese) made
Posted by: ostrich
Like I said, a bolt backed out NOT broken, if you think its Junk go riding with us and we will all laugh at you when my 9-year old is willing to do more riding when you are ready for the truck, like I said we have made some longer rides, and had no problems, other people may have had different experiences, but some of these are their own fault, not the fault of the quad. Not only that click on the link above this post and give us your opinion.
Posted by: Cheapass
csamayfield55, how many have you owned?
I see many "It's crap" claims, but oddly enough, seldom from one who has actually owned one. The people who own them love them....
Posted by: bombman
i will say that the 2006 models will all be 4stroke with double a-arm frt. suspension my sales rep did say with the new emmision law by 2006 this will tell us if any of the other brands will stick around for the future of there youth line. The cost of the 4 stroke is going to add about 200.00 more per unit.
Posted by: elraptor02
and the bolts!
Posted by: ASDASD
How reliable are the Chinese made ATV's such as 50 cc, 90 cc, 110 cc ?
Different brands, which brand do you recommend ?
Thanks for your advice.
Posted by: quadduck
I didn't know that honda makes a 50 other than a two wheeler, so how do they compare? Myself and all of my friends experience has not been very favorable. Like the above threads stated bolts falling out or stripping out easily, plastic breaking easily or changing colors, and non metal componets used where metal ones should. This comment will probably spark up some arguements, most likely from eton polaris, dinli, and kasea owners , so I will nip that one in the bud right now, those aren't the minis that I'm refering to. All of the others that aren't the mainstream get that. Just remeber how much fun will you and the kids have when you are the furthist possible distance from the truck and something breaks down.
Posted by: quadduck
I knew that this thread would start another your quad sucks. Isn't kymco from korea? Who cares don't buy any model until it's been out for a couple of years. Almost all first and second year models have thier problems. And the japaneese minis are mostly made in Taiwan too.
Posted by: quadduck
lt 80's are made in taiwan for suzuki, but under suzukis guidlines
Posted by: quadduck
This was an old post I know but after reviewing the forums I just thought I would like to say wow, look at all the new threads that people are posting thier problems with these chinnese minis. Looks like saving 1000 bucks isn't worth it afterall, unless you like to work on stuff for the heck of it. I still would rather buy a used Quad rather than one of those chinnese minis(note to e-ton polaris and dinli owners I am not bashing your quads just all of those kazuma yamatto whatever flybynight here today gone tomorrow makes)
Posted by: quadduck
I like the idea of all the comp. out there, but I wonder whats going to happen to a lot of these small companies when two strokes are no more. Not many of them have what I would consider to be a reliable 4 stroke.
Posted by: quadduck
I am curious to see what suzuki/kawasaki will do with the lt 80. Id like to see a 90cc 4spd autoclutch with double a arms and real suspension. They could model it after the z 400.
Posted by: quadduck
With the 50 you can say that about almost all the minis unless they are being raced.
Posted by: quadduck
My wifes quad do you ever sell the older bikes or are you starting a musem?
Posted by: quadduck
Hey isn't Yamahas old school colors yellow? Its okay us Suzuki guy like the other makes too, afterall its easier to pass a fellow rider if he is not on a zuk!
Posted by: quadduck
Hey DB not that long ago CZ was again in buisness reproducing an affordable mxer"CZ400" it was exactly the same twin shocked 70's model. It was in the mid to late 90's when I read about them, talk about a disadvantage fo guys racing vintage huh.
Posted by: quadduck
Yeah aren't they in the same price range as the kaseas and dinlis?
Posted by: mywifesquad
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Originally posted by: Dragginbutt
I agree with Quadduck considering all the complaints we are seeing recently about these machines. I don't know if the issues are quality issues, or just plain hard to get parts/servicing etc... which is to be expected, when little if any after the sale support is available. Still I do feel that the situation seems to be improving as time goes on.... at least from a parts and dealer support standpoint. But they have a LOOOONG way to go.
I wonder if the issues that are coming up are for machines manufactured a couple years ago, and if the new models seem to be moving in the right direction quality control wise? Any one have any data to support either claim?
One other thing I notice is that with all the knock off ATV sales websites we see these days, very few say anything about service, or parts availability... there are some that do, but many do not.... Just a question worth asking.
DB, is that you, boy o boy that is at least 2 positive comment posts about chinese quad's. Who say's they cant teach a old dog new trick's? MWQ
Posted by: mywifesquad
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Originally posted by: Dragginbutt
Lastly, I have tried to get rid of that big three biggot mentality that I used to have....
Still in green bike denial huh? Any bad experiences you need to share with us? That is ok with me though, I have never owned a yellow bike my self.
Posted by: mywifesquad
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Originally posted by: Propertymaint
New here to the forum. I purchased two Kazumas just before thanksgiving. I have been using them on and off mostly on the weekends for light trail riding around the house with the family. They are good machines for what I am doing with them, also I don't have a lot of money tied up into something that is occasionally used. As the kids get older and get more demanding on the quads I will most likely purchase name brand units. These chinese knock offs are great for what I am using them for, but if we were riding like I used to ride my Honda 200X, I don't think they would take the punishment. Where most people appear to run into problems with Chinese products in general is that they see the price and think they are getting a bargain. The old saying will always remain - you get what you pay for. If your purchasing one for you 16 year old kid and think your going to put one over on Mr. Honda by saving big money your headed for problems. Don't get me wrong these are great little bikes for their intended use. Once you buy one of these units you don't have the luxury to bringing it to a dealer for warrantee - you are the dealer. You can get all the parts you want from the distributor you bought it from along with technical support but you are spinning the wrenches. Make sure you purchase one from a full fledged dealer. I dealt with Raceway and so far they have done everything they said they would. Most people who buy Chinese knock off products waht ever it may be watch a couple of episodes of Monster Garage and think their mechanics. They pull the quad out of the crate put the tires on, fill it with gas and have nothing but problems. When you buy these units you are the dealer and end quality control. If you have a good understanding of mechanic work and spend the time with quality control - replacing fluids, tightening and locktight bolts etc , these are great little quads for their intended use and the money. If all you are doing is light trail riding they will hold up just fine and there appear to be plenty of parts sources. Just my opinion. Again, these quads are great for their intended use.
welcome back to the forum Propertymaint, I think I remember you posting something about kazuma's a while ago. I am in total agreement with you on this. They are great entry level quad's. Your comment about you becoming the dealer when you purchase a delivered quad hit the nail on the head perdectly. IMO. I am sure the japanese quads are not completely bolt together and go either but the "dealer" works out those little bug's for you. Tighten a few bolt's here and there, 1/8 of a turn to the air/idle screw etc.. I would never reccomend one of these to some one with no mechanical skill's.
Posted by: mywifesquad
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Originally posted by: Dragginbutt
There used ot be a lot of things a dealer did in years past, but now days, they basically unbox it and push it to the showroom. I have been present on both my last two Yamahas and the Honda, and other than checking fluid levels, not much was done... They put about a quart of gas in it, made sure it started and loaded it up. No tightening required.. just once around the building and on to my trailer.
I wasnt aware of that. Used to have a buddy that put together hondas after hs. Pretty cool job I hought, basically install front wheel raise/tighten handlebar's, change engine oil, minor adjustment's. Figured they still did it that way. That is pretty impressive that they come fully asembled ready to run now. Just another place the chinese are saving money getting their quad's here. A quad that need's 4 wheel's installed, takes up a whole lot less space than one with wheel's. Lower shipping cost's. And with it comes the problems with people who think they can simply add wheel's, gas and go. I really do think it is a shame that there is not a system of dealer network's to sell these quad's. Hopefully the true junk will fall by the wayside soon and the quality product's will make some attempt to establish a dealer type arrangement some day. Eton seems pretty good and John at Raceway Atv's seem's really dedicated to his dealership. I have talked to him on the phone a few times and have gotten that impression.
Posted by: mywifesquad
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Originally posted by: garyc660R
50cc and under 2 strokes are exempt from 2006 regs. This will keep the price reasonably low some kids quads. It will also keep lawmakers from having to purchase expensive 4 stroke equipment over less expensive 2 stroke alternatives (weed eaters, leaf blowers, etc.).
And will also keep a good supply of pocket bikes headed this way.
Posted by: mywifesquad
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Originally posted by: quadduck
My wifes quad do you ever sell the older bikes or are you starting a musem?hr>
Funny you should ask, I tell the boy's all the time that they will inherate quite the museum some day. Since '85 I have only sold 1 bike a 74 QA 50. Still emotionally distraught from that one. Still have my HS car too. '70 mustang, havn't heard it run in over 15 yrs. And lots of project engines etc........Like I have said before i have a very understanding wife of 25yrs. Dont know if I have told you this before, but I have permission to at anytime I feel it necessary, bring home anything with wheel's. Gotta love that.
Posted by: mywifesquad
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Originally posted by: garyc660R
When was the Elsinore first available? I owned a 79 250 Elsinore as a young boy (about 11-12 yo).
'73, I owned a '76 and a '80 then moved up to a 480 in '82. 500 in '85.
Posted by: mywifesquad
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Originally posted by: Dragginbutt
Hey man, anyone who remembers the glory days of Bultacos and Maicos is OK in my book... Now I am really dating myself... Like I have said before, I owned the first 250 elsinore in the midwest when they first came out... so I know what it was like in the 'olden days'.
Would love to add a 'mid '70's 250 Maico to my "museum". Wouldn't mind a '80 490 either. I think that was the last year of dual shock's. No reed valve and the sweetest open class engine ever. IMO.
Posted by: mywifesquad
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Originally posted by: quadduck
Hey isn't Yamahas old school colors yellow? Its okay us Suzuki guy like the other makes too, afterall its easier to pass a fellow rider if he is not on a zuk!hr>
Funny I just never owned a Suzuki, almost bought a rm465 in '82, until I watched a guy "try" to start one at a mx once they even held up the race for 5 minutwes while he kicked and changed spark plug's. Got a '82 cr 480 instead. Alway's liked red, now orange does it for me.
Posted by: mywifesquad
Dont Etons cost about twice as much as the other Chinese quad's? Dont get me wrong i am not challenging your claim, but you do get what you pay for. Etons are the most comparable to the japanese quad's. Maybe even better with some model's.IMO.
Posted by: basspro
Kawsaki and Suzuki both subed out their 50 80 , My choice is check out Eton it may suprise you to know that Eton was #2 in youth quad sales for 2003 , yes they outsell honda yamaha , suzuki , kawasaki , etc ,they have the latest tech on safety, 2005 [ the Viper 70 was rated quad to beat in this class Aug 2004 issue ATV action mag] these have hydraulic rear disc on 50 70 90 , new electonic governing with adjustable cdi much better than throttle restrictor , red flashing led safety light and every other safety feature available . With it said they have the others beat on safety devices the handling and power is awesome .
Posted by: basspro
I would challenge any of these to match E-Ton in feature for feature, performance , parts support etc, we can get E-Ton parts much easier and quicker than any we have tried, And the Adjustable cdi is unmatched in minis so far , The E-Ton 70 runs like 90. Yamoto parts are a hard to get we had parts on back order since July, The engine is same as redcat [chinese honda clone ] No support , no shop manuals, no nothing!
Posted by: basspro
Do your research , E-Ton is owned by JI-EE indusries since early 80's they have been building parts fore Yamaha,Honda, and others, match E-Ton feature for dollar with any out there, safest kids ATV made the new cdi adjustble govenor is awesome ! E-Ton has one of the best parts support out there , Kazuma parts Yamoto , some times we wait 6 months at a time , Also on 50 and 90 E-Tons engine trans is supposed to swap out with Polaris .
Posted by: basspro
E-Ton is owned by JI-EE Industries[over 20 years old], they build parts for Yamaha,Honda, and others , engine parts will swap with Polaris in mini sizes.
Posted by: mpnick
I have been looking for three ATVs. A 50cc for my little girl, a 70-100cc for my boy and a 250cc for me. I have been on most of the website but I still am not sure on what is the better way to go. I do not want to buy used but at the same time the brand names are alot more then I want to spend. I build cars so checking bolts and changing oil is not a problem. What brand have had the best luck with other then the big boys.
Thanks again
Later.......Nick
Posted by: mpnick
Last year I got two E-Tons for my kids. One 50cc and one 70cc. They have run the heck out of them for almost six months now. No problem at all. I would not think twice about getting another one down the road. I found that most Yamaha dealers aso sell the E-Ton line. Turns out the they share some parts. I have been told that the are both owned by the same company, I do not know this to be a fact. For a first bike you cannot go wrong with one.
Posted by: mpnick
I got an E-Ton 50 and 70 shipped to my shop for under $3,000.00. I went to the big boys around my area and the price quotes were starting around $5,000.00 for them. So the E-Ton may not be as cheep as the other bikes but I think they are worth the extra bucks. I did alot of looking around and comparing bikes from all of the brands before I got the E-Tons. So far I have no problems at all. When I ask the place where I got them about parts down the road I did not see a problem.
Posted by: Propertymaint
New here to the forum. I purchased two Kazumas just before thanksgiving. I have been using them on and off mostly on the weekends for light trail riding around the house with the family. They are good machines for what I am doing with them, also I don't have a lot of money tied up into something that is occasionally used. As the kids get older and get more demanding on the quads I will most likely purchase name brand units. These chinese knock offs are great for what I am using them for, but if we were riding like I used to ride my Honda 200X, I don't think they would take the punishment. Where most people appear to run into problems with Chinese products in general is that they see the price and think they are getting a bargain. The old saying will always remain - you get what you pay for. If your purchasing one for you 16 year old kid and think your going to put one over on Mr. Honda by saving big money your headed for problems. Don't get me wrong these are great little bikes for their intended use. Once you buy one of these units you don't have the luxury to bringing it to a dealer for warrantee - you are the dealer. You can get all the parts you want from the distributor you bought it from along with technical support but you are spinning the wrenches. Make sure you purchase one from a full fledged dealer. I dealt with Raceway and so far they have done everything they said they would. Most people who buy Chinese knock off products waht ever it may be watch a couple of episodes of Monster Garage and think their mechanics. They pull the quad out of the crate put the tires on, fill it with gas and have nothing but problems. When you buy these units you are the dealer and end quality control. If you have a good understanding of mechanic work and spend the time with quality control - replacing fluids, tightening and locktight bolts etc , these are great little quads for their intended use and the money. If all you are doing is light trail riding they will hold up just fine and there appear to be plenty of parts sources. Just my opinion. Again, these quads are great for their intended use.
Posted by: RAMTechRC
I have the Kamoto 150 for my son. I paid $1518 loaded into my truck. My dealer did all of the recommended changes by Yamoto, and the ones I read about here. I then spent about an hour with the blue loctite stick, and got to everything I could reach. The $1K I saved from a Big Name model was worth it so far, unless you count the stiff suspension my son hates. I thought the 90s were too small for him, and couldn't find a big name model in the 150 range. This son takes good care of his stuff, and won't do anything radical on his quad.
I bought a Honda 250 for me, since the Chinese 250s are almost the same price, and I paid $3400 for it. These are my first quads, so money was definitely an issue, just for the simple fact that we never really spent alot of time with quads before. If we both like it, then I'll give the 250 to my son in a few years, and upgrade me to a new bigger one.
My 5 year old is now getting interested, but I will get a used Big Name 50 for him. He is rough on all his toys, and ahs a low attention span, so I'll spend the money on a used one.
Everyone has different issues. Do your homework and make the best decision for your situation. A Chinese quad is better than no quad anytime.
I just got a new job this week, and if I knew that at the time, I would have bought all new Hondas, now that I'm a little better off financially.
Posted by: RAMTechRC
I also think Yamoto will be the clear winner from China. They have a good dealer network in Phoenix, with real buildoings,a nd mechanics, etc. Most of these dealers are selling like crazy, and seem to know alot abou the bikes. They all read these forums, and do the required and suggested mods early.
Posted by: Cmymud
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Originally posted by: mpnick
I got an E-Ton 50 and 70 shipped to my shop for under $3,000.00. I went to the big boys around my area and the price quotes were starting around $5,000.00 for them. So the E-Ton may not be as cheep as the other bikes but I think they are worth the extra bucks. I did alot of looking around and comparing bikes from all of the brands before I got the E-Tons. So far I have no problems at all. When I ask the place where I got them about parts down the road I did not see a problem.
where did you order from ?
