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selling a quad - scams?

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Posted by: LT80

If he indeed plans on sending 5k to you, there is something definitely wrong here. Looks like money laundering/check scam to me.
I agree w/others. if he has someone over here to do work for him, let him handle the check and hand you the cashola! Normally I'd say take the check and release the quad when the check clears the bank, but this one scares me.

SCAMS ARE ALL OVER !!!!! This warning was sent to me:::>I hate hoax warnings, but this one is important.
> >Please send this to everyone onyour e-mail list.If a
> >man/woman comes to your front door and says he/she is
> >conducting a surveyand asks you toshow him/her your
> >ass, do not show him/her your ass.This is a scam;
> >he/she only wants to see your ass!I wish I'd gotten
> >this yesterday. I feel so stupid and cheap.--

Posted by: LT80

When I've built motors for people in different countrys, I've done it a couple ways:
1) send the cash and insure it for the amount.
2) send bank money order and by the time I get the motor done it's cleared.
I realize that me having their motor is a different circumstance,but the same ways could be applied.

Posted by: ZillaRider02

I have a guy right now E-Mailing me wanting to buy my LT500. He wants to send me $9000 via Western Union, I cash the check, keep my part, and Western Union the rest to his shipping agent. Sounds awfully strange to me. He is claiming to be a doctor from Africa. My quad isn't going anywhere until I have CASH in my hand.

Posted by: terd

I would not do it. There are way to many scams going on with these oversea's deals ie: bogus money orders, credit card scams and you are the one who will get screwed in the long run. If it was like a $10.00 item that's alittle different. Just be very cautious and like I said I would not even think about doing it if it was me.

Have you posted it in all the forums???

Goodluck

Posted by: terd

I am willing to buy your (1994 Yamaha Badger 80 4-wheeler) for $800
my mode of payment will lays on certified cashier's check drawn in U.S
funds , i will be informing my client in U.S who be forwarding a check
of $5000 to you on my behave , i will be handling the shipping, and
every relevant title, if you want me to forward the check to you, i want
you to give me the name that will be on cheque and your physical address
which you will like to recieve the cheque with your cell phone number
and land line ,but if you will prefer to receive the check in your bank
i will want you to provide all the necessary info concerning your bank
(bank name and address , account #and rounting #, so that i can order
my client to wire the payment to your bank asap.more over the balance on
the excess funds will be base on shipping bcos they are having other
consignment for me to do the pick up, the shipper's will be incharges of
sign all relevant document,i will like to know if may mode of pa
yment is accepted by you or not . i will really appreiciate your
instant response.
Thanks


SCAM SCAM SCAM.....Check scams are not the only method of these foreign scams. My fiance' works for a company that had an overseas company asking them to purchase cell phones and different thing of that nature. So before they did any buying on behalf of this company he called the F.B.I they told him to proceed with caution as long as they felt comfortable. The payment was with credit cards. Well needless to say his boss went ahead and bought a few and shipped them out. About 1 month later the credit card company informed him not to take any type of credit payment from this oversea's company and advise him not to deal with checks with this place either.

I have read about this type of stuff going on when they send you a check for a less purchase and give you a check for well over the amount and you give them the cash and the item and you get a big screwing in the long run. This type of crap has been going on for awhile.

If my memory serves me correctly there was another post about this same type of activity that another user had come accross...do a forum search and you may find it on some of the sites.

I know cycletrader.com and Ebay has alot of this crap going on also. I was interested in a honda trx90 on at cycletrader.com ...HAHAHAHA that's funny, anyway i got an email from someone claiming to have this quad for sale...If I send him 1,200 and he would ship it to me for nothing....total BS. The picture that was posted was the same bike that was on auction on ebay. The location for the ebay trx was in the states the other was in spain.


STAY AWAY FROM THSES PEOPLE...do not support a TERROIST....because that might just be what you end up doing.

Posted by: terd

here is a link to a past scam post.

http://forums.atvconnection.com/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=363651&highlight_key=y&keyword1=scams

Posted by: terd

And you never will. DO NOT EXCEPT any deals like that. You will get screwed in the long run.


Goodluck

Posted by: terd

My boss just got a letter from his credit card company stating there is a $32,000.00 charge back for services and supplies. These out of country deals (SCAMS) are becoming more rampid and I would advise for you all not to dealings with any out of country company or person. Who in their right mind would send you an absolute stranger to them a $9,000.00 money order and trust you to send them what's left over ...would you do it with someone you don't know??? I don't think so....So stay away from these scams.

Posted by: terd

This same type of activity is going on over on Ebay. They are advising for sellers not to do these type of transactions. I would run like all H%LL from this guy.

Goodluck

Posted by: Raptorlegs

With your name, address, account and routing number, he can order checks under your name and spend all of your money before you or the bank catches it (happened to my company). Don't ever give out that information unless it's a business you trust to keep it confidential. Identity theft is a BIG problem right now.

I would tell him you'll release the quad when his check clears your bank or no deal.

Posted by: spike99


If "He says he'll have someone here take care of shipping" then why can't that same person give you a local certified cheque? Better yet, " US cash only ". Doing business with someone outside your region is a good thing. The risky part is ensuring you'll get paid for your goods, and inturn he gets the goods. Like you, there's many times I wrote a cheque for quad parts that were only available in another region. Many great dealers on this forum who have a solid reputation. Well worth the risk on my part. If someone locally or someone from a well known shipping company writes you the certified cheque, it would create much lower risk - to you.

Hope this idea helps.

.

Posted by: asfasasu3

I am trying to sell our Badger and I put it on our local city website. (classified adds). I have a gentleman that e-mailed me saying he would buy it. Thing is, he's not in the U.S. He says he'll have someone here take care of shipping it and he will send me a certified check for the money. I have never shipped anything like this before and was wondering if this could be a scam of some sort?

Posted by: asfasasu3

Ok Here is his e-mail that was sent to me.


I am willing to buy your (1994 Yamaha Badger 80 4-wheeler) for $800
my mode of payment will lays on certified cashier's check drawn in U.S
funds , i will be informing my client in U.S who be forwarding a check
of $5000 to you on my behave , i will be handling the shipping, and
every relevant title, if you want me to forward the check to you, i want
you to give me the name that will be on cheque and your physical address
which you will like to recieve the cheque with your cell phone number
and land line ,but if you will prefer to receive the check in your bank
i will want you to provide all the necessary info concerning your bank
(bank name and address , account #and rounting #, so that i can order
my client to wire the payment to your bank asap.more over the balance on
the excess funds will be base on shipping bcos they are having other
consignment for me to do the pick up, the shipper's will be incharges of
sign all relevant document,i will like to know if may mode of pa
yment is accepted by you or not . i will really appreiciate your
instant response.
Thanks


I hate to distrust people, but I hate to be had even more. What do you guys think?


Posted by: asfasasu3

Theres no way I would give out my banking info!! I didn't know about the certified check part of this. I really want to sell it, but I think I will follow my gut instinct and your advise and pass on this deal. Thanks!!

Posted by: asfasasu3

I sent this fellow an e-mail back and told him that I would only take cash and the quad could only be picked up after the cash was in my bank (put there by me and checked to make sure it was not conterfit by the bank) I never hear anything else back from the fellow.

Posted by: 1fastpolaris

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Originally posted by: spike99
If "He says he'll have someone here take care of shipping" then why can't that same person give you a local certified cheque? Better yet, " US cash only ". Doing business with someone outside your region is a good thing. The risky part is ensuring you'll get paid for your goods, and inturn he gets the goods. Like you, there's many times I wrote a cheque for quad parts that were only available in another region. Many great dealers on this forum who have a solid reputation. Well worth the risk on my part. If someone locally or someone from a well known shipping company writes you the certified cheque, it would create much lower risk - to you.

Hope this idea helps.

.


I would see if you can get the cash from his buddy and see what he says.

Posted by: confusedbuyer

LT80, ....... LMAO!! that hoax is hilarious.

Posted by: ostrich

This si obviously a scam, cbs interviewed a couple from minn. that actually sold their house in this fashion. Bent over big time, no house, no money, no luck. Anything that sounds too good probobly is too good

Posted by: Cheapass

The current scam is a bad check scam. Banks hold funds for 5 days or so, then clear the check. You send the quad, but the check, because it is international, actually bounces. it takes your bank 2 or 3 weeks to find out, then they yank the funds back, leaving you with overdraft costs, no money, and no quad.

Posted by: doug1973

what a scam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!