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Posted by: Raptorlegs

Well, I'm bored so I'll give a another review.

Brand: Maxfine 100
Aliases: MZ/QJ/Hornet 100

Description: 93.5cc's, full suspension with rear long travel, electric start with kick start backup, head light, brake light, cvt, driver tether kill-switch, rear tether kill-switch, adjustable throttle, front and rear drum brakes.

Pros: Got a steal at $1180. Lots of value. Seems well built. Plenty of child-power for hard packed trail riding with moderate hills. Lots of parts available if you know where to look (like miniatvs.com).

Cons: Would not recommend for anyone over 100 lbs (underpowered). Shocks are too stiff for most children. Wish it had smaller brake levers. Harder to start after storing for any length of time then what I am used to. BUT I'm used to Honda!


Mail ordered the quad. Received in box, I had to charge battery, tighten handle bars, add fuel/oil and put air in the tires. Fired right up.

After riding I had to adjust the front alignment and front shock lengths. Easy to do and it rides great now. Also started having idling problems and had to adjust the carb. Again, very easy fix.

Rating on scale of 1 - 10 for satisfaction - I would say 8, only because it can be difficult to start after sitting a week or two, And that may be my own fault for not running the fuel out. I'd buy it all over again in a heart beat.

Posted by: Raptorlegs

If I think about it I do. I noticed once when left open in the garage for about a week and a half, it seems to leak something through the overflow. May have gummed it up a little.

Posted by: Raptorlegs

Must've been it, I started it last night after sittinf a week and it cranked right up. BR>


Guess if it's gonna make a liar out of me, that's a good way to do it!

Posted by: Raptorlegs

Just wanted to update this. Found my problem with the starting issue. Weak battery. Since I stated leaving a trickle charger ($13 from the local auto store) hooked up to the quad in storage, it starts right up!

Posted by: Raptorlegs

Found it under a company called Loncin. See the home page on his link. Some of these companies are so intertwined, it's hard to know what came from where.

Posted by: Raptorlegs

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
so are you guys saying the 110 atv on www.atv4less.com website is made by Loncin? those any good?



pacificdirectsports.com

But who knows if they are just the middle man?


Posted by: Raptorlegs

Express Power Sports has that Maxfine 100 for $999 including shipping! BR>
I thought I got a steal! Wow!

Posted by: Raptorlegs

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The steering on this thing gets pretty twitchy above 15 mph



I had to toe mine out and adjust the front shocks to the lowest setting. Handles real good at higher speeds now.





Posted by: khen

This thread is a good idea!

I have a Tomahawk ZXR 110 ATV which is sold under many other brands here is a link to one of the distributers. The motor is a Honda clone that looks like the old trail bike/ATC 110 motors while the frame and plastics are like a Raptor 80 except it has front a-arms.

Benefits:
- The price, I paid $1300 for it which is about $900 less than a Raptor 80 and it has a bigger motor and more features.
- Looks and sounds real good!

Weakness:
- Poor assembly. After about 10 rides the bolts holding one of the lights vibrated out and the other lights and a few motor cover bolts were loose. I would advise you lock-tite and re-torque these bolts. I also noticed some of the welds on the bumper are cracked/loose.
- It's also not real fast with my big butt on it but OK for younger kids, my 10 year old wants more power though..

Posted by: khen

I believe the Kazuma body is similar to the Suzuki LT80. It seems a lot of these Chinese quads have engines that are very similar (Honda clone) and the bodies are either a clone of the LT80 or Raptor 80 and some of the bigger ones are clones of the Blaster. I have noticed however that the engines bore and stroke can vary slightly between the different manufactuers of the 110's.

Posted by: khen

Good reviews confusedbuyer..

On another note, I have to downgrade my review on the Tomahawk ZXR 110 ATV here . This thing has been a nightmare, more and more bolts have vibrated out including the engine mount bolts, exhaust bolt, steering shaft bolts and the bolts that hold on the shaft drive. Both headlights have burned out and it's also eating oil for some reason amongst many other things. I don't know if this is just a lemon or not but it has been a piece of GARBAGE. I spend most of my outings fixing one thing or the other on this piece.

I now wish I would have just bought the kids a used Japanese brand quad. I purchased a 1986 Honda 200SX that has been WAY more reliable than this beast. I also have a couple of early 80's Honda ATC 110 three wheelers that are way more reliable and also more powerful.

My conclusion, the Tomahawk is a piece of crap dressed up as an overpriced ATV..

Posted by: khen

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
sorry to hear that khen. maybe use some ny-lock nuts on the loose bolts where you can. you can't shake those loose. but using oil...should never happen. now you're scaring me, cuz I was thinkong about a local distirbutor's 110 model, they are called www.atv4less.com. they have a cheap 110 4-stroke, shaft drive with reverse, but i wonder if it's not the same. someone else guessed maybe Yamoto makes this one.

The Tomahawk looks exactly like the Yamoto, I also did see that Loncin has one that looks identical as well. The bolts/nuts that I have replaced so far and used locktite on have held good, but you have to replace the bolts because the stock ones are so weak that you can barely torque them down or they will break off (I broke one off in the engine block ) I would highly suggest to anyone before buying one of these look into buying a used Japanese mini. I'm going to give this one to my daughter (she drives really slowly) and find a more durable one for my 10 year old son.

Posted by: khen

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Originally posted by: DirtForAShirt
Sorry to hear about your bit of bad luck Khen. Your Tomahawk 110 looks identical to some of the other brands (MFC, Yamoto, etc). I have a Yamoto 150 model which is very similar to the 110's. I've done everything to it even ran it off a 10' ditch bank just to see if the axle would hold up after bottoming the suspension out (I busted the axle and my tailbone). I put up a review titled "Yamoto 150 Review" if you care to read it. Anyways, the last thing I did to my quad was run it down a few miles of RR tracks to get to a fishing spot. Nothing came loose after Locktiting just about everything. There's something else I did to the engine mounts and from A-arm hing pins that might be of some use to you. I ran a piece of 10-pound-test fishing line through my nuts before I put the bolts back in. It's something I learned from a buddy of mine. You might have to take a pencil torch to soften up the fishing line for smaller nuts and bolts but once you started the bolt in... it's gauranteed to be rattle proof. When you hear the squeak on every turn of the bolt and your forearm starts hurting from the strain, you'll know it won't come back out

You also right about the cats-eye-lights that come on these Chinese models. They are cheap. I installed some halogen driving lights mounted directly between the stocks lights. They are a big time improvement! The lights are mounted on a 1/8" thick aluminum plate I used to reinforce the front body mount located under the air box. This was the first thing I broke on the ATV and I figured it needed some reinforcement... turns out it made a decent light mount also. I'll post some pics on a new thread tonight to show you guys what I'm talking about.

BTW, Canucklehead, nice review on those MFC's hr>

Thanks for the info DirtForAShirt, good idea on the bolts and fishing line and driving lights! I'm going to buy a bunch of good quality nuts/bolts and take it all apart next weekend and replace every last one of them. I would like to make it so I can have at least one trip out without having problems with it.



Posted by: kj9999

I bought the QJ Prowler 100cc for my 7 & 8 year old daughters to share. I paid $1150 from a local dealer.

This features a 97.6cc (Bore: 52.0mm Stroke: 46.0mm) two stroke engine with automatic oil injection and electric fan cooling. From the limited information I have found on this engine it appears to be a Yamaha clone (or some advertisers say 'genuine'). The closest thing I have found is the Yamaha 100cc kt100 go kart engine. As with most of the other Chinese quads the engine, frame, etc.. on this one cross over to many other brands. I was surprised to see that the chassis and engine on this thing look an awful lot like a predator 90 which makes it a lot like some of the other two stroke 90's coming from China.

Pros:
This quad has not given me any serious (see cons) mechanical problems yet (after about 10 trips out with it). The engine fires right up every time with the electric starter and on the first or second kick with the backup kick start. The engine provides plenty of power for the kids (who really don't push it... yet) and enough to move my 5'8" 165lb body around at a reasonable pace. The automatic transmission makes it easy for my daughters to ride and the headlight is bright enough to get the job done.

Cons:
It is missing one bolt/nut that mounts one of the rear fenders to the foot rest, I am not sure how long this has been missing or if it ever had it. After the issues my brother (khen) had with his 110cc I looked over the quad to make sure nothing was coming loose and to this point no other problems have been spotted. The steering on this thing gets pretty twitchy above 15 mph and the front suspension is... well as with most current Chinese quads not much of a suspension at all.

Conclusion:
I am happy with this quad and found that to this point it has served its purpose well. I have not really pushed this thing, in fact it has never left the ground (no 10 foot drops for me), so it would be hard to say how much abuse it would take. Once my kids get a little more confident with their riding skills I may start to see problems and if so, I will do a follow up review.

8 out of 10

Posted by: kj9999

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I had to toe mine out and adjust the front shocks to the lowest setting. Handles real good at higher speeds now.



Thanks for the tip Raptorlegs, I am going to make these adjustments tomorrow.



Posted by: confusedbuyer

when you leave it a couple of weeks, do you shut off the fuel petcock? If not, try that. maybe a little fuel is seeping past. Some say it almost builds up hydraulic pressure when left on. I always shut off petcock, even for a day.

Posted by: confusedbuyer

it's a good habit on any gas powered item with a petcock to shut it off after use. That way you can also run carb dry. I do it all the time on my pressure washer, generator, etc. The quads i don't run dry cuz they get used year round.

Posted by: confusedbuyer

funny, on the LT80, I couldn't get it to prime, and eventually vacuum was hit or miss. The old LT50, the vacuum never did work. Suzuki wanted $140 for a new petcock on the LT80, someone here posted a Banshee Petcock would work, but for $30. He was right, it fit perfect, I just don't have vacuum anymore.

Posted by: confusedbuyer

okay, my review of MFC quads has finally been posted. go to www.quads.ca .From the home page, click on "product reviews", and there will be our review of the quads, 4 different models, 50, 90, 125 & 250. There are a bunch of pics aswell.

Posted by: confusedbuyer

sorry to hear that khen. maybe use some ny-lock nuts on the loose bolts where you can. you can't shake those loose. but using oil...should never happen. now you're scaring me, cuz I was thinkong about a local distirbutor's 110 model, they are called www.atv4less.com. they have a cheap 110 4-stroke, shaft drive with reverse, but i wonder if it's not the same. someone else guessed maybe Yamoto makes this one.

Posted by: confusedbuyer

dvrack, when they swear it'll fit anything and then when you get it and have those kinds of problems.. aarrgghh!!
I know the place I'd like to fit it is straight up the seller's a$$!!BR>
so are you guys saying the 110 atv on www.atv4less.com website is made by Loncin? those any good?

garbage bolts/steel if you can't even tighten them without breaking. doesn't that make the rest of you concerned about where else they cut corners in the manufacturing, such as quality of steel,poor cast for stuff like engine cases, blocks, cylinders, pistons, etc..?

Posted by: confusedbuyer

I tried loncin's web-site but couldn't find any atvs on it. they did offer to sing me the company song though!
www.atv4less.com has the 110. sorry, it doesn't work when I try to use the link function on this site, but if you go to this site, it's easy to see their units.

Posted by: confusedbuyer

dirtforashirt we were drooling at the same time. I was going to ask Dan if i could be a brother too, or trade in my brother, cuz my brothers don't have a CNC !!

Posted by: ostrich

I feel for you guys without access to machines, I work in a full service machine shop, I can't think of a machine that I would need that I don't have access to. We also get to order matl. for cost, but I don't need to very often because we can have any excess that lays around too long. The only thing wrong with this is my 2 kids are spoiled, don't worry what breaks DAD will fix it. I boight my son a marshin 150, same as the rest, and have a lot of good luck so far, will find out next week after riding the fire roads in wis. for 4 days

Posted by: submakr

Here is my opinion:

Purchased Kazuma 110 this past winter. $1700 but had to pick it up at the local shipping center.

Pros
Easy to assemble. Started right up. Lots of power. Kids keep it in second gear all the time. The bike will go pretty fast in third gear. Plenty of power for my 2 eight year old girls. Headlight is powerful. Great fuel economy.

Cons
Clutch failed on first trip out. Headlight is kind of shabby. Headlight bolts fell out on second trip. Flag holder is worthless. Nothing holds it in!!! Suspension is very stiff. Very little technical info on bike. Distributor says motor is Honda replica and body is Suzuki replica. He cannot tell me the exact year and application for the motor and body. I think the motor is a Honda CT110 but an not sure. If I could figure out what the motor/body is I could get parts fairly easy.

Trips
First trip to Glamis we lost the clutch. Oil turned black. Material dissolved off clutch plates. Distributor sent a replacement cutch assembly that I installed. Second trip to Dumont no probs. Kids rode the bike dawn to dusk. Kids ride the bike in the back yard all the time. We have had no probs with the bike since the clutch issue.

I don't have an opinion on the bike yet. It seems good if one is mechanically inclined. The price is right. We need a full season on the bike to know for sure.





Posted by: submakr

Correction

I paid $1400 not $1700!!

Posted by: Cheapass

Post your reviews of made ATVs here. Please, only comment if you own or did own one, no secondhand opinions. (That's why it is so hard to get a review, it's all second or fourth hand opinions!)

Mine: Maxlife 110.
Fun, and fast, holding up well. Underpowered for my overweight butt, but moves the younguns like the wind.

benefits: Good acceleration, snappy handling, suspension works well. Parts have been easy to get, but no odd parts needed yet. (Handlebar and brake pads)
Downside: Underpowered for adults or bigger kids. It works, but lacks. 2 wheel drive.
Bang for your buck on a scale of 1 - 10: 8, maybe 9. Its very inexpensive, so you get a lot for your money.

So, what do you have?

Posted by: Cheapass

Good input, that's the type of info I like to see.

Mine arrived crated, so I assembed a large part of it. Thus, I used loctite from the get go, so not much has shaken loose. good idea to go over it and loctite the stuff I didn't assemble. I think I'll do that this afternoon.

Posted by: Cheapass

My Suzuki road bike has a vacuum petcock that's sweet. When the carbs are sucking air, the petcock opens automagically. When they stop, it stops.

The bike is an 82, and still works great, so there aren't any wear issues on that part. (now, ignoring a cam chain tensioner noise too long... that turns out to be an issue..)

Posted by: Cheapass

Correct. The main design is the same used in the Honda ATC-110, but the manufacturers vary them slightly for the applications. Shorter stroke and larger bore for better horsepower, longer stroke and narrower bore for better torque.

The bodies are really starting to deviate. They are integrating newer features, and fixing older problems. Many have integrated the headlights into the plastic because people feedback that they shake loose of get broken off.... things like that.

Posted by: Cheapass

Looks like the Kazuma ones are getting some negative feedbacks.

One problem, so far, is deciding who makes what, originally. they allow re-branding so much that it's hard to tell. If you have one, please attach a picture of the beast you review, so maybe we can see some identifying marks/designs/looks and correlate them.

Posted by: Cheapass

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
I tried loncin's web-site but couldn't find any atvs on it. they did offer to sing me the company song though!
www.atv4less.com has the 110. sorry, it doesn't work when I try to use the link function on this site, but if you go to this site, it's easy to see their units.


www.atv4less.com gets me a "coming soon!" page.

Posted by: sportscars

I have a 2004 Yamoto 150cc and have been trying to (gently) test it and break it in. I did the assembly myself so I did check most of the nut/bolts. No problems yet but I would like to help the front suspension. Any ideas as to what might fit and/or work. Can I cut a coil out? It's a family ride so it needs to be at least a little soft.

I havent had an ATV since I sold my Honda Foreman 350 4x4 in like 92 or so (I think).

Thanks for any help you could give.

Sportscars

Posted by: DirtForAShirt

Sorry to hear about your bit of bad luck Khen. Your Tomahawk 110 looks identical to some of the other brands (MFC, Yamoto, etc). I have a Yamoto 150 model which is very similar to the 110's. I've done everything to it even ran it off a 10' ditch bank just to see if the axle would hold up after bottoming the suspension out (I busted the axle and my tailbone). I put up a review titled "Yamoto 150 Review" if you care to read it. Anyways, the last thing I did to my quad was run it down a few miles of RR tracks to get to a fishing spot. Nothing came loose after Locktiting just about everything. There's something else I did to the engine mounts and from A-arm hing pins that might be of some use to you. I ran a piece of 10-pound-test fishing line through my nuts before I put the bolts back in. It's something I learned from a buddy of mine. You might have to take a pencil torch to soften up the fishing line for smaller nuts and bolts but once you started the bolt in... it's gauranteed to be rattle proof. When you hear the squeak on every turn of the bolt and your forearm starts hurting from the strain, you'll know it won't come back out

You also right about the cats-eye-lights that come on these Chinese models. They are cheap. I installed some halogen driving lights mounted directly between the stocks lights. They are a big time improvement! The lights are mounted on a 1/8" thick aluminum plate I used to reinforce the front body mount located under the air box. This was the first thing I broke on the ATV and I figured it needed some reinforcement... turns out it made a decent light mount also. I'll post some pics on a new thread tonight to show you guys what I'm talking about.

BTW, Canucklehead, nice review on those MFC's

Posted by: DirtForAShirt

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Originally posted by: sportscars
I have a 2004 Yamoto 150cc and have been trying to (gently) test it and break it in. I did the assembly myself so I did check most of the nut/bolts. No problems yet but I would like to help the front suspension. Any ideas as to what might fit and/or work. Can I cut a coil out? It's a family ride so it needs to be at least a little soft.



Originally, I cut my coils but I wouldn't suggest others to do the same. I ended up putting a new pair of stock shocks back in because the lower shock collar was bending due to uneven pressure from the cut coil.

I've taken a look at the stock shocks for a Honda 90 and the Polaris Predator 90 and they are both 10" shocks just like the Chinese shocks. Soon as I get some time, and extra money, I'm going to take one of my shocks off and head down to their parts department and verify the mounting holes are identical. If they fit then they would definetely provide a softer ride.

P.S. The Raptor 80 shocks might be also be the same size.

Posted by: DirtForAShirt

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Originally posted by: Dan1965

*And before I get any lectures about letting an 8 year old ride a quad.........



Looks like WhoDat is making a striking impression on the newest members LOL

As for the throttle lever... if you have access to a mill machine I'd take full advantage... lots of us could only dream of such an opportunity

**edit for some nasty mispelling.... sorry.... it's late...

Posted by: DirtForAShirt

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
dirtforashirt we were drooling at the same time. I was going to ask Dan if i could be a brother too, or trade in my brother, cuz my brothers don't have a CNC !!


Hey, forget that, just trade in your brother for some equipment... LOL

Posted by: dvrack

Okay here goes Daughter has a Kazuma Panda 90 2stroke which held up pretty good for the first 6months until she ran it through a 2'creek wasting the cylinder up until then ran good always started no problems though as her riding skills developed power was lacking .Talked to Casey at hetricks and orderd the pipe and clutch kit (the term fit's all mini quads with minimal modifications should have made me wonder) After doing my impression of monster garage removing oil tank,rear brake mount and reattaching elsewhere,cutting away one side of the rear subframe and reattaching and moving and bending also the rear attacing point of the pipe that is supposed to mount to the top of the rear subframe won't work on a Kazuma as the engine and rear swingarm are attached kinda like a lt80 so if I mounted to the rear subframe the suspension wouldnt compress and the pipe would probably bend.

Posted by: Dan1965

ETON Viper 70cc Review-
I just bought one of the new 2005 Eton 70 Viper's which I believe is made in Taiwan/China. So far it's been a great quad. It has a 2 stroke engine with oil injection so I don't have to mix the oil. This quad has front drum brakes with a disc brake in the back. It pulls my 212 pounds up a 30 degree incline at 12mph. We haven't changed any of the default factory settings designed to slow the quad down for kids. It runs about 18mph on level grass with the limitations in place. I'm anxious to see what it will do once we remove the limitations. My 8 year old daughter will just have to wait until she is fully capable before we do. Anyone know of a certified safety course for kids in the chicago suburbs?

My daughter is average height for her age and she fits the quad perfectly. The frame is definitely larger than a normal 50cc frame so I think it's a 90cc frame with a 70cc motor. It steers easily and is extremely stable. I tried to tip it doing doughnuts and other erratic driving maneuvers and it never felt like it was tipping at all. I would highly suggest the 70cc model because most kids will out grow a 50cc very quickly and you can limit the 70cc to to act just like a 50cc or even less. My daughter will be able to use this quad for at least 3 or 4 years before she starts bugging me for a larger quad....I hope

The only complaints I have concern the seat and the thumb throttle lever. The seat is a little stiff but when you only weigh 50 pounds it probably doesn't matter. The throttle lever is a little to far away for smaller hands. I noticed a couple times she took her hand off the grip while she was pressing the throttle. Does anyone know if there are after market throttle levers with an upward-curved shape that will fit the Eton's? My brother has a programmable milling machine so I could get him to make a new lever but I'd rather just buy one if they are available.

*And before I get any lectures about letting an 8 year old ride a quad: She only rides under 100% parent supervision. Wears a helmut 100% of the time even when its 95 degrees outside. And it's only backyard riding until she is ready for more. No jumps, no ditches and no dangerous hills.

Posted by: mywifesquad

Welcome to the forum cocacola1010, Id have to say that was a pretty honest review of most chinese quads. If you dont mind me asking. How big are you and how hard do you ride your 110? I have told a lot of people on here to avoid these things if they dont have either, good mechanical skills or a established dealer.(Not many of those it seems) Getting one in the crate like I did is not like going to the honda dealer. It will need way more attention than just installing the wheels, battery, and raising the handle bars. which is what most of the internet sellers claim. My wifes yamoto 150 is still in like new condition and actually even better. Main reason is my wife is extremely easy on her quad and has never had a wheel leave the ground while riding it. second reason is, I thave a lathe and a mill also, and have done a few mods to her Yamoto. Stock the rear shock had 9/16" (14mm) of travel before it hit the bump stop. It was absolutely ridiculous. You can check it out on my photo page if you want.

Pretty cool digging up this old thread, it ended about the time I got here.

Posted by: cvc42

Hello

I have been reading some of your post's on Chineses quads. I have 3 of them. I own 2 Marshin 150cc's Both have been great and trouble free. They are well built and run great. I took one to the local Honda shop and had the air box removed and the carb rejetted. They were very impressed with it. They are not a Honda...but they run well and are a great starter quad's for my kids. The 3rd is a BTM 50cc with Zongshen motor. Its has a gear shift. Put in gear and go. I had alot of carb problems with this machine. I finally found a 15 mm Mikuni that corected most of my problems. It came with a 19mm. To big for a 50cc motor, the dealer gave me a new 19mm that did nothing to solve the problem. And he was no help after that. I have yet to find a service manual for it. I have since re-place it with an Eton Viper 70. My advice.. if your looking to buy the little one there first quad, buy one of the Big 5 or an Eton. I could care less about the cost but watching my 7 year old sit on a rock while her friends ride because DAD bought a cheap knockoff will break your heart. Stay away from the BTM 50cc they have slick advertising...I'll own it forever as it is worth nothing,and I will not sell it and ruin some kids first experience with ATV'ing.

My 2 cents

Posted by: cocacola1010

Ok, time to confess....

I recently bought a Shineray 110cc (road legal in the UK) quad....paid £820 registered and with 6 months road tax.
It is a Honda copy engine/'small' raptor styled quad. three fwd gears, and reverse - shaft drive....
I have seen the same quad for sale under various names, including Loncin....
So far, and I have owned it for ONLY one month and 7 days, and covered 270 miles, on and off road on it...........

Here are the faults so far............

• Air filter came apart at rubber flange (on first day)
• Carb not set up correctly - had to rejet the main and adjust needle (running far too rich)
• Manifold bolts were too short and poor quality, stripped some thread - re tapped and s/s bolts put in place
• Exhaust heat guard fell off - needed welding back on.
• Rear engine mount snapped - hole too close to edge of bracket - more welding....!
• Rear plastics fouled gear change, had to trim plastic to be able to change up.
• Headlight vibrated so much, kept blowing lamps (3 in a week), had to make additional bracket for it to stiffen it.
• Vibration blew tail light twice (in a week) – now fitted LED one
• Front ‘king pins&39; on hubs are sloppy fit
• Two ‘brass&39; grease nipples sheared on first use (replaced all 7 with better quality ones)
• HT lead was too long/badly routed and melted on exhaust
• 'chromed' Plastic top of dipstick has dropped off
• Front ‘hub cap&39; has fallen off - badly fitted and wouldn't 'seat' correctly on castle nut.
• One rear wheel bolt is wrong size, has a nut on inside. (8mmX1.5 nut and bolt instead of 10mmX1.25 bolt into threaded hole)

Generally all the bolts are CR@P - replaced most with Stainless Steel equivelants.

Basically, if I didn't live so far away from the person (I won't name him on here, only cos he never made it) I bought it off, I would have driven it right through his front door and demanded my money back - (been very little help so far with 'full back-up' support, various emails not answered etc)
Good job I have the technical mind to sort it all out, and the equipment........

If you are considering buying one of these, or similar, then DON'T, that is unless you have full garage equipment, lathe, technical mind, free time, patience, etc etc etc.

It does 40 MPH flat out, vibrates like hell, has little suspension, is quite small (suit a 12 yr old)

On the plus side......when all the teething problems are 'sorted', it is a good laugh for the $$$, I don't think I really expected much, I never had the money to buy a 'proper' quad, so what the hell - you live and learn....!

Every day is a school day they say......!

JUST DON'T BUY IF YOU HAVE NO TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE AS YOUR LOCAL MOTORCYCLE SHOP WON'T TOUCH THEM.....!


Posted by: cocacola1010

I am 6 foot (too tall4 it really), light build and only ride it within its limits, not even maxxed it out yet as its only running in, no jumping or stuff - wouldn't dare hehe
It seems to vibrate lots, and lots....!
All I want to do is raise awareness that these quads, although cheap are NOT a get on and ride solution, they will spend a lot of time 'in the pits'....
Not a problem if, like you, you have the facilities and the technical knowledge, but for joe bloggs in the street - NO NO....don't buy one....!
If this thread prevents one 'joe bloggs' from buying one, then my job is done....

BE WARNED....!!!!! CHEAP - YES, NASTY - YES, OFTEN...!!! hehe

P.S. I have just noticed the tyres say 'NOT FOR HIGHWAY USE' on them, but it is sold as ROAD LEGAL, I have taken this up with the supplier and he says he will supply correct tyres?