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Posted by: LT80
To be honest I think a 50cc is more appropriate. I understand the lil dude has better than most quad knowledge, but my opinion remains the same. I speak from expierience in this area. BR>My 2 cents
Posted by: LT80
The race track tells nothing for reliability and craftsmanship eh?! Dammit! Here I been wasting my time at the nationals for almost 10 years and local racing for 13 years. 500 races down the drain. Here I thought that I learned how and where to support LT80 cases at the races.I even thought that I developed and proven a national calibur race motor at the races. But NO,,, I guess I didn't learn a thing. And nothing proven. BR>I guess Nascar, Superbike, BikeMX, etc. will all be shutting down cuz the darn fools thought that what won on Sunday sold on Monday. Stupid rich zillionairs! What were they thinking??
I'll speak the truth for ya. Listen up (everyone).... THEY ARE ALL GOOD!!!!!!!
What one lacks, it makes up for in other places. Same but different is what I say. I have a eton90 in my garage right now and when I'm done it'll kick butt like my LT80 motors. I still think it's the rider. BR>Whats the best machine? The one you buy for your child!
Resale value?? What ya think we're dealing with here? Mercedes Benz?Unless you have the national #1 plate on your miniquad, then the resale stinks on all of them! They're money pits.
So They stay away from tiawanese junk in Texas. They stay away from road salt too, (I came thru that ice storm between El Paso and Ft. Stockton 3 weeks ago there) neither makes sence to me. BR>And whats with the goats in Texas? I saw sheep, and I can understand why a tall texan needs a sheep now and then... But goats? BR>I knew a guy that got mad at his daughters BF cuz she accidentally got pregnant "again". He took his Yugo and rammed the BF's car time and time again and still drove home. $500 in parts...
Common dude, sorry to pick on ya, but your fact is anothers opinion. Just like me. These are my opinions, and I'm sure that I'm wrong. BR>I think you need to get out of Texas and go on a road trip. I'll pick ya up next time thru! BR>I hope ya see the humor intended in all this BR>
NOW,, the topic starter wanted opinions..Where were we? BR>
Posted by: LT80
iceman, I surely did think of you and your family when passing thru! If I would have known about that ice storm, I would have looked you up for sure! I was on a Mardi-gras mission when I blew thru El Paso BR>Good to hear from you!
Posted by: Raptoryfn660r
Its always kind of sad when someone has to relate to this :
1.Geez don't you feel dumb
2.Have a clue pud!
Its not needed when I see it.
Posted by: Raptoryfn660r
LT80,
I enjoyed reading that so after this I am going to read it again and thanks
Posted by: IT3ICEMAN
Hey Jack, Shame on you! You came thru town and didn't stop and visit. I think you came thru the coldest day of the year for us. BTW, East Texans don't consider El Paso part of Texas.
Posted by: terd
Who pissed in toofast's CHEERIOS today.
pedal that crap to someone else...you can't handle the fact that the so called "OFF BRANDS" are better all the way around.
Please do not try to insult my intelligence. You Sir, are in need of some information. Look accross the country and see who's winning what, and what quads they are on.
Last time I checked the United States of America did not start in Dallas and end in Houston. I believe you do have dealers in that area that pedal some of these junkie quads you claim to have so much knowledge of.
I also noticed you are selling your LT50...you must be looking to upgrade to a Kasea, Polaris or an ETON. You may need some help starting your new quad...the whole key thing might be an issue for you. Oh and be careful going over bumps seeing as how you will be getting a quad that has an actual suspension in it.
goodluck to you!
Posted by: terd
Well said LT80!
No matter what she gets her kid he or she will love and ride the hell out of it.
Sheeps and goats...that is some funny a$$ stuff!
each quad is proven in it's own way and she will have to take all of the useful info she got and make the choice for her lil' one.
it is tough with all the choices...but it will be worth it in the long run.
Posted by: moochie
Currdog said it perfectly..... I have a monsoon 90 for my almost 5 year old and he is not even close to the right size for it. I will be getting a lt50 or kfx50 for him within a month. I'm not against a Eton (I will look at them).
Posted by: MikeCer
Well reguardless of what brand name quad you choose, I would
stay away from the 50cc atv. Actually the 70/90cc atv that Traxterman
mentiones sounds perfect, with the 7 cdi settings.
my daughter has the Polaris 90cc sportsman and i have the cdi jumper
installed and the throttle limiter screwed all the way in on hers,
because she isnt ready to go any faster, she scoots along at her
own pace in the yard, or where ever we go riding getting better
and better. When the time comes I will let out the throttle limiter
and remove the jumper on the CDI...
Posted by: CurrDog
Ok guys, back to "Mommy4wheel's" question!!
Mommy4wheel,
I chose an Eton 90cc for my 6 yr. old daughter based upon good info. I have gleaned from many forums. BUT, you must make sure that your son FITS on the one you chose! If his feet don't sit flat on the floorboards, it is too big and he will fall off on the first turn. You need to get a measurement of his required seat hight and compare that to the specs. of the various kid quads on the market. If he won't fit on the 90cc models, and that's what you get him (planning on him growing into it), he may not have a "fun" experience (read crash) and get turned off to quads altogether (so growing into it wont matter too much any more). Technically speaking, the rider should be able to stand flat-footed on the floorboards and have "some" space between him and the seat so as to help control balance while riding in less than flat terrain.
The point is, at 4 yrs. old (my son will be 4 in april and rides the 12 volt electric quad very well, but he needs to grow a few more inches before I will let him ride the 90cc) the focus should be on riding safely and having fun. If a 50cc is the only thing he fits on right now, it will still last his interest for at least a few years (those things go surprisingly fast).
Good luck on your decision.
Posted by: wteceraserman
My .02, Bought Viper 90, MY girls 8yr, 60lbs and 6yrs, 30ibs(Tiny) Never rode before, turned throttle limit way down for first ride.Both had it wired in15 mins and although wanted foot brake they had hand brake down just as quick. They and I love it. Electric start,they start it, key(u control it) brake lights, Can see when they use brakes. Really good power, stock tires still climbs sand dunes even at thottle limited 1/2. They raced Raptor 90? and LT 80 and won. Rear disc brake works great and easy for even 30lbder to pull.2005 even has reverse. Check all threads only bad rap is from earlier posts. Ask others, I paid more than i wanted 2 because not every dealer sells them but I'm I happy!!!More questions?,just ask.
Posted by: wteceraserman
Good point,nice post, traxterman.
Posted by: lgr
I bought a used LT80 for my daughter, but she was much closer to 5 than 4 yrs. old. She had a lot of seat time on the eletric toys, and some seat time on an old atc 70. In the beginning, I screwed the throttle limiter pretty far in so that she would't hurt herself. I agree like 2gordons said, my daughter's first instinct is to go for the foot brake before the hand brake.
Posted by: oldyeller
The 50cc e-ton Viper is an impressive little machine.It should be more than adequate for your 4 year old and it can be made to go as fast as a 90 with some mods when he is old enough to handle the extra speed.Apparently there is a new smaller sized 50 cc model for this year and a 70cc model that is all new for this year (2005) that takes the place of the 2004 and earlier 50cc Viper.
Posted by: oldyeller
In response to "toofasts" comments about us all working or selling E-tons I don't do either. I'm just a happy customer who has seen a lot of these bikes race with no problems at all.The dealer that I bought our bike from puts on an atv racing series and a lot of the 50cc and 90cc bikes are Vipers although there are lots of other brands as well.I haven't seen a failure of any kind on the E-tons and actually very few problems of any kind on any brand.I say compare the features of the E-ton against any of the others.It is no taiwanese piece of junk.Actually the big three's mini's are lagging behind if anything.We also do lots of trailriding and we've had zero problems.
Posted by: 2Gordons
I actually wish I would have purchased the 90 from the beginning. You can leave the restrictors in place, put on smaller tires, and teach him the proper riding techniques. You may want to consider a quad with a foot brake as well. That is the preferred method of stopping for my son, and I am not so sure he would be able to stop as well without it (his friend he ride swith does not have a footbrake and he rarely uses brakes, a little scary at times). At that age it is difficult for them to get used to grabbing for the handbrake, but it is easy for them to push down with the foot. More $.02
Posted by: 2Gordons
Toofast - You obviously do not know enough about these quads to be offering an opinion. Look at the race tracks in your area and see what brands of quads are dominating the mini races, that should tell you what the good minis are. Go ahead and drink the Cool Aid that the big three are offering on their youth quads and keep fooling yourself, but don't give someone who is looking for a good quality quad for their child a bunch of crap.
Posted by: vizion
Resale stinks on them and you are much better off to stay with a japanese model or main manufacturer..
toofast can you expand on this statement.
As far as parts, it sounds like a dealer problem more than an E-Ton problem, I have never had a part take more than 3 days. Thats from time of order to my door. I am half a country away.
my 2 cents
Posted by: vizion
Gee toofast, All I did was ask a question. Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed or what.
Checking the NADA website, it looks like your LT80 and TRX90 run about the same on value. Only pointing out what I see.
I know here the yamaha and Honda dealers don't even carry their mini's, they sell either E-Ton or Kasea.
Must be something about it.
Posted by: KILLEREX
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Originally posted by: mommy4wheel
thanks for the advice...but dont you think he will out grow it fast? money is kinda tight and i want something that can grow with him...
to be honest i dont know much about quads...and i appreciate all you can tell me. my hubby is the quad rider and i also ride but limited knowledge!
thanks again! hr>
Don't listen to all the B/S people sling on any of the forums for starters! Just surf through all the postings and see for yourself what is in constant need of repairs and such.If you ask ten different people that own ten different quads they will all say theirs or something like it is best.Do alot of reading and make your own decision i'am sure your child will be happy with any atv!you can always resell and upgrade they all hold a pretty good resale value.
Posted by: mommy4wheel
hi i am looking to get a quad for my 4 year old son. any suggestions?? I was looking for a 90 that i could turn down and have some control over the speed. he has out grown his batery opperated one and is really ready to move on. he has been on quads since he has been 3 weeks old ( colic ...the only way he would stop crying) he seems to have pretty good ability to drive one. i was looking at the eton viper 90. any suggestions??? please help me....
Posted by: mommy4wheel
thanks for the advice...but dont you think he will out grow it fast? money is kinda tight and i want something that can grow with him...
to be honest i dont know much about quads...and i appreciate all you can tell me. my hubby is the quad rider and i also ride but limited knowledge!
thanks again!
Posted by: mommy4wheel
wow!!
i want to thank everyone who helped me out and gave me info. all you guys are really great. you also gave me alot of point to consider. I know my little guy will be happy with whatever i choose for him ( his name is sage ) he is really looking forward to getting it for his bday. again thanks and you all really helped me alot. you guys here are great!!!!
Posted by: tooFastindawoods
was reading and it sounds like these people work for Eton! I have been in the cycle business for a good 7 yrs now and have been raised with just about every type of cycle from ditr to street. Anyway I really from my heart would never put my child on an Eton ..They are taiwanese built gumball machine type quads. Hard to get parts (friend of mine cant even get a new gas cap for his Rascal 50.. They Hate that quad... Resale stinks on them and you are much better off to stay with a japanese model or main manufacturer.. This is no B.S. either Every dealership I have worked for will NOT take one on trade or even bring one into service... Also Polaris and Bombardier youth models are the same junk.. Email me if you have any questions.. Think about putting your 16 yr old daughter or son in a YUGO instead of a Chevy or Ford etc.. The build quality is no good and that in my eyes would reflect not safe either
Posted by: tooFastindawoods
Well to begin the race track proves nothing for reliability and craftsmanship and I do know plenty My statements are the truth .. I have better things to do then lie about a youth quad when its NOT even my child... They are taiwan made and Dallas area dealers and Houston stay away from those...Why is that? Since you guys seem to know way too much. They are cheaper metal (thickness) , low budget parts , whichare hard to find and not a very good machine so, STUDY UP My FRIENDS.... Resale speaking to Mr. expand on this....Take a 5 yr old eton and a 5yr old japanese manufactured quad and see which one holds a stronger market and yes take in mind that the Eton's are hundreds less to begin ...WHY? CHEAP PARTS ETC>>>>> Don't question my knowledge and check the tracks here and you will see a mother load of TRX90 , LT80 , LT50 Not eton!!! Wake up guys , I was not trying to offend you , just letting someone know what they are really getting into...do some more research...
Posted by: FirstGear
Hi, Monny4wheel,
For my Four year old daughter's birthday, I got her a mini-Rex (50cc) with the remote control. I have been very happy with the purchase.
I have taught many young children to ride, and the number one concern is safety. That wireless remote works, and allows the young ones to learn without much worry. You can adjust the throttle, but it is only effective on FLAT terrian. I like the full footboards, and the auto tranny. No suspension, but it wont tip over as easy. I dont recommend it for rough terrian. As far as outgrowing the unit, if I every wanted to part with it, it seems you cant lose money becuase of the demand and inflation. Children under 12 all seem to enjoy this quad.
I also have a Yamaha Moto 4 with the 80cc. It's another good starter quad, and will stay usable and enjoyable far longer than the mini-rex, but it is not as safe. The 80cc moto 4 (used about $1400) has the throttle limiter, auto clutch, 4 cycle, battery start only, and is very very well made.
My nine year old son uses the Moto 4, and my daughter now 6 uses the Mini rex. When the time comes, she will move up to the Moto 4, and I will sell the Mini rex and get my son a larger quad.
Have fun with your purchase
FirstGear
Posted by: daddysgirl
mommy4wheel just for thought,i bought my little girl a polaris,predator 50 and she is 6 yrs old,best move i ever made.it is made with a low center of gravity so they wont roll,you can make them go faster when they get use to it and best of all the brake levers are made real close to the handle bar so there small hands dont have to reach as far and hard to pull them in.i put a twist throttle on hers and she can ride it alot father and her thumb never hurts. c-ya
Posted by: daddysgirl
LT80 you are right about the bikes the kids are going to love them what ever they ride.if you are worried about resale,you are in the wrong sport we chose a polaris predator 50 only if the bike breaks while we are riding we can find parts close. p.s try to stay away from chinese junk you will regret it
