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Posted by: SANDMAN430
i tryed the honda 90 but the boy got to big fast, so at 9 i got him a blaster, well that was a big step for about three months then he was fling that thing around , well i decided i didn't like the gas going thru the 2 stroke our rides were controled by the mileage of that machine, well i found a used honda 400 and couldn't be happier it has easy to use power and it just works great for him. the weight is more than he canlift if it get stuck but we always ride together. other than that the big whoops throw him around a bit but as he grows that will change, and honestly it probably isn't much different than a little machine with no real suspension. i know that this is a big step, but i ran into other people with there kids on 400's and they said it is just such a easy machine that kids like it a lot. but this is coming from people that ride sand dune so the power is down from the start.
Posted by: Rickster
I was looking for an entry level atv for my son and narrowed it down to a LTA50 but I seen this one (bombardier DS50) and have not seen any posts on it yet. THey are the same price. Please give me some info as to what it may be like. GOOD BAD OR OTHERWISE. Thanks
Posted by: Rickster
Sorry. my son is 5 years old and he is new to the sport.
Posted by: Rickster
badittude,
Thanks for the info that has been a great help. I had heard that the ds50 are quite slow. can you tell me how fast they are? I dont need speed for him right now just want it for future play time with Dad.
Thanks.
Rickster
Posted by: twitchell
in one of my new dirthweels issues they had test for some 125's or something I think suzuki makes one.
that would work best i think.
Posted by: alcoff95
You didn't mention how old your son was. If he he is big enough to ride the larger DS 50, thats what I would go with. I bought an LT 50 for my four year old son. It fits him perfect right now, but I'm sure it won't be long before he outgrows it. I started my 6 year old on an Xtreme 90 and kept it limited down until his skill level improved.
Posted by: alcoff95
If you go with the LT50 expect him to outgrow it within a year or two. I already have all the restrictors removed from mine. It's speed is limited by the single speed trans to no more than about 15 mph at the most. The pull starter can be a PITA. I often have to jump off my quad and push if he doesn't get a run at a moderately steep grade. I bought one because it was a size that my youngest could handle safely, and I didn't feel like waiting another year for him to be able to go riding with us. When he starts complaining about being smoked by his older brother, I will sell it and get something bigger.
Thats My $.02
Posted by: TRexTommy51
The DS50 is a lot better machine .
Posted by: TRexTommy51
The DS50 is a good machine. Swap the cdi and the rear sprocket and it is the fastest 50 out there. It is the same as the DRR except cheaper shocks. Size and weight is the same as the DS90. The DS90 is a little faster thatn the DS50 with mods. All depends on what you are wanting to do with the machine. For racing we use both 50's and 90's. For trail riding, go with the 90.
Posted by: TRexTommy51
speed stock? Probably 15mph. After $100 worth of stuff? 38mph approx.
Posted by: TRexTommy51
I would be more inclined to tell you to mod the Dinli. A Blaster is a fairly big machine. At 10 yrs old, I would get his opinion.
Posted by: badittude
I own both. The DS50 is awesome, and my 6 year old just wails on it.. I KNOW I am violating a rule somewhere, but my 2 1/2 year old rides the LT50 around in circles on the tether kill switch that comes with it.. it is really too small for a 6 year old, and very weak. The DS will stay with your son at least until he is 9-10, then you do a few mods as mentioned above and keep him happy for another year or so.
Definitely the DS..
You can see both in this picture, big difference. The Lt is in the corner, and the DS has the reflector on the back.
Either way, hes got a great dad for getting him a quad!.
For reference, you are looking at (L to R) a TRX90, a Bomb DS50 then the little LT50. And yes the pull starting is a hassle on the Suzuki, and its been fouling alot of plugs lately. The Bomb ALWAYS starts and warms right up with a push of a button. Just WAIT till YOU get on that DS and gas it.. it is limited down to a low speed but it has got GOBS of low end..
Posted by: badittude
Rick, yep, top speed is about 15- 20 mph, but only because of the gearing. It is all bottom end. It has the juice to ride in the sand and hills. I am 230lbs, and I can pull a wheelie on it. I think the speed it runs now is all I want for my 5 year old. Much faster, and the steering would be too quick, I think. But as your boy gets more experienced, I am sure he will want more, and like some of the other guys said, you could go up one tooth on that front sprocket and change the rev limiter and it would scream.
I still cannot believe the difference in power between the two 50s. Later.
Posted by: badittude
While we are all discussing kids quads.. what is the next logical option for a 10 year old that can ride his trx90 to death he can ride to the point where I am constantly putting chains on it, and replacing brakes. He is consistently bottoming the suspension on jumps and seldom even looks like he is out of control. I was considering the Blaster or either the 250ex or z250. I have heard that there are some 150s out there that may be good bikes, any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated. I may just drop several several hundred bucks on suspension and engine mods on the 90, as well as new plastic.... that may hold him for another 2 years or so, but he is ready for something bigger.
Posted by: badittude
Hi,
the ds is geared too low to begin with. I would suggest you putting the taller tire on and trying out the bike before messing with gear ratios.
I would think the taller tire would bring the bikes speed up a bit, and be perfect for the sprocket setup.
If you are looking to lower the gear ratio a bit after all of that, try dropping the front one tooth, and see how that works.
Shane
Posted by: VowellBoysRacing
Can't do better than the DS. Best on the market. almost maintenance free and yes after he gets tired of following daddy, with about $100-$300 of mods he will be yelling for daddy to catch up. My 8 yr old races the big brother version (DS90) and consistantly places 1st and 2nd with only jetting mods.
Posted by: VowellBoysRacing
Just an idea.... AlphaSport now has a 180cc that looks really good! Not to pricey and after talking with there R&D people and a few of their wrenchers they have completely redesigned ther Alpha line. Might be worth a look!!
Posted by: VowellBoysRacing
The DS50 does allow Jet changes. Try starting with the stock jet sizes for the 90 ( including the pilot jet.) And as for the CDI simply unplug the 50's unit and order the stock 90's unit and plug it in. Unlike the other 90's on the market the DS90 does not come with a restricted CDI. You might also consider changing the rear sprocket to a 4-28. You won't believe the difference!
Posted by: Gotgrizz
Is the carb on the Ds50 a fixed jet or are there jets avaiable? Also, what is invoved with "swapping the CDI"? Thanks for any help.
Posted by: Gotgrizz
Thanks for the info, ordered the pilot and main today for the ds90.
Posted by: MartinD
I want to put a bigger sprocket on a 2002 ds50.itshas the stock 19 on the rear and im going with a taller tire and would like a 20-23 tooth.any ideas?
Posted by: MartinD
hi shane,thanks for the great info.who sells the sprockets.thanks again
Posted by: jutcie
is it true if you install a ds90 cdi on your ds50 it does the same thing as a aftermarket cdi you would buy from hetricks?
Posted by: crf450f2004
hi vowellboysracing,i was wondering what size rims and tires are on the ds90.i like the profile.i have a ds50 and im looking for something like that.mine has stock size rims and tires now.thanks
Posted by: g22bob
My 5 yo duaghter has an Lt 50, it fits her perfect but can't get out of it's own way, the slightest hill and I have to pull her up. My 8y/o son has a DS50 and it pulls hard right to the rev limiter, the only thing that can stop it is loose dirt/sand, I will be replacing the stock 16" tires with 19"ers like the new ones come with. The day she can ride the DS is the day the Suzuki goes.
Posted by: vegasdave
Stock cdi limit on the ds90 is 5900 rpm. I think its very noticable that there is plenty of rpm left in it. Anyone know what the hetrick racing cdi limit is?
