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Posted by: trx430ex

The squeaky wheel gets the grease in your case.Baaaaaa haaaa haa.Sorry had to do it. Wheres that vidio?????????????????????? Theirs two on e-bay by the way. [This message has been edited by trx430ex (edited 12-09-1999).]

Posted by: trx430ex

The vidio of you jumping the Max!!!!!

Posted by: BIGBEAR4x4

They did that last year for the 99 line up They didnt put the price in or any specs on it though(in 2000 lineup) [This message has been edited by BIGBEAR4x4 (edited 12-08-1999).]

Posted by: BIGBEAR4x4

Just thought ide let you know that max is pulling the barge DOWN a small incline. Hell a yamaha badger could do that if u put a ball on it. :) By tha way, u said it was pullin a large pontoon boat but i just see a little one. Is there another pic ur not sharing with us??? [This message has been edited by BIGBEAR4x4 (edited 12-09-1999).] [This message has been edited by BIGBEAR4x4 (edited 12-09-1999).]

Posted by: BIGBEAR4x4

You say a rolling load is easy to pull max! Then why did u say that it was pretty cool that the max was pulling a "large" pontoon boat??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by: BIGBEAR4x4

Max how did u stack all that wood on one tree???????I dont think u did. but prove me wrong and post the pick. Im not saying the max sucks cause i would love to own one but i doubt its as good as you make it out to be.

Posted by: BIGBEAR4x4

Max....same with a 4x4...only advantage a max has over a 4x4 is amount of cargo it can carry. I know ur thinkin bout how a 4x4 cant float but if i stuck some basketballs in tha racks and aired em up i bet it would float. Also they have the kit where you can add wheels on the outside of the ones already there and i know a 4 wheeler will float with that kit.

Posted by: BIGBEAR4x4

Max u want everyone to come to KY and see u in action uh. Has it occured to you that people arent gonna drive that far so just friggen quit sayin it. BUT if u want to drive a long ways and prove how Awesome the max is there is a mudrun comin up in Feb. here in Texas. I would really like to see a max there even if it wasnt you so i could take some pics of it stuck in the mud with me driving around it. This mud isnt something you can just float across you really have to get power to the ground and those little tires on the max wouldnt do so good. But u could show off and do circle around everyone else in tha big swamp thats out there.

Posted by: BIGBEAR4x4

MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX my gosh. U say the max has an advantage over the argo 8X8 because it weighs less and has true 6 wheel drive. A quad weighs less than a max and some have true 4wd and others u can put a locker in em. Also u say the max is a better mudder than a 4x4. Try riden where i do with deep ruts and real thick sticky mud(that no max or nothing could just float in)and u would see why the Max does not rule. It may rule the water but who cares ide rather have a boat for the water.

Posted by: BIGBEAR4x4

The pilot is like a big fast go cart with shocks. They dont make em anymore and honda was the one that made them. They r an updated version of a honda odyssey with a more powerful engine that i believe is 300-400cc or somewhere in that area. [This message has been edited by BIGBEAR4x4 (edited 12-15-1999).]

Posted by: BIGBEAR4x4

MAX u needa stop kidden urself about the max bein the best mud machine. It would only do good if it could float and there were no ruts. I bet u didnt even try the mudhole where the sportsman u got a pic of was stuck and if u did u either got stuck or it was water and floated across.(what fun would it be to float across a mudhole anyways????U even said ur self it would not give u the "TRUE" muddin experience.

Posted by: BIGBEAR4x4

Max im just wondering if you think the max would be a better all around vehicle than a quad with the megtrax kitor whetever its called.(Its the kit that puts spacers on the outside of your wheels so you can add another set of tires and wheels.) For 1 it would be able to Float. Also could still add 26 inch tires for more clearence and more agressive tread. Lot faster than a max. Post what u think Max.

Posted by: RoostKing

Max 6x6, That picture is quite unimpressive to say the least. My friends 500 Scrambler pulled a 76 Camaro up a slight incline into his garage, with the motor and tranny in the car, at least 3500 pounds. Now, he only did it the one time( the only time he had to) but compared to your little boat pic. that is quite impressive. And no, they do not rate the horsepower of individual cylinders on a quad, car, tractor or MAX. If it says 14 HP, its prolly closer to 12.5... I am surprised that you did not comment on the post I wrote earlier concerning the 1300 CC Subaru motor in the MAX. Now that is power... RoostKing...

Posted by: RoostKing

MAX 6x6, You posted the picture! What do you think most of us thought? Yes it is on a trailer, but again you posted it and said it ruled. Personally I like your Max, it has its uses, but the way you come across with it can be a bit much. Take care, RoostKing...

Posted by: RoostKing

MAX6x6, You are too much. What EXACTLY does the Max rule at? I can name a dozen things that my LT 250 R, Let alone a 400 Scrambler, can do better than the Max, I bet you can name a dozen things your Max can do better than my LT 250R. You never answer your detractors or prove your point. After I tell you about a friend puling 3500 pounds uphill, you come back with another lame story about dragging twigs around. I actually am starting to believe that you are scared of power. If I owned a Max and was told a 4-CYLINDER car motor would fit in my Max, I would jump at the information. But I guess 25-30 MPH is fine for you. Have fun... RoostKing...

Posted by: RoostKing

Like the Max could even hold on to any outboard of any real size. Lets see you stick a v-6 Merc on the back of that thing, I bet it sinks FAST. Then again, at least Max 6x6 will get some speed going. RoostKing

Posted by: RoostKing

Seems to me it would be pretty easy to take on water! I have seen the video on your website where you are traversing the water, calm water that is and it is only a few inches below the sides. Unless you were taking a wave head on, I think you would take on water, and that is unsafe. RoostKing

Posted by: RoostKing

And what exactly would you do with that monstrosity? Looking at the pics, it would appear that it really only rides on the middle tire for the most part. Goofy . RoostKing... [This message has been edited by RoostKing (edited 12-18-1999).]

Posted by: rooster

Hehe, you can tell in that picture which toilet the man uses and which one the woman uses! LOL!

Posted by: Lt250Blast

hey guys! leave max6x6 alone! i wouldnt pull a trailer with either of my quads cause i dont have a utility quad or a 4x4. i think the max is actually pretty cool,so quit bashin on him

Posted by: Rob_Maggard

Hey Max, you say that you could out pull an 8x8, because you have more power, and the extra wheels would mean nothing on the 8x8. So does that mean that a 250R or banshee with more power than you could ever dream of on your max could out pull you, when you say that your max can out pull any quad because it has more contact patch, and what about a quad with four 27x12x12 tires, I haven't done the math yet, but I'll wager that the quad has as much if not more contact patch than you do. Also, you state that you can cross two foot of "solid" mud. Your tires are only 22" tall and the mud would be 24", right. I know you don't have over two foot of ground clearance, so how do you explain that? I would also like to know what kind of "pickup" you "drive" that does 120, if you don't mind informing us on that. That was the funniest thing I've ever seen Polaris_Rules! PS-that picture of you pulling that (mostly aluminum, and other light materials) pontoon, doesn't give your max much credit. An ATC 70 could pull a vessil twice that size. 350XX, 250R, 200XX, 450S, 300 2wd

Posted by: quad_man

Max, what's the point of that Max with the triple wheels? If a Max is already impossible to sink, impossible to get stuck, and extremely stable, why bother? The Max is already too wide for trails anyway, and with all those tires all you gain is a cool looking picture. Why a couple months ago did you want a Sportsman? Why did you say you were going to sell the Max to get one? Why were you asking questions about different models you were considering, when you already claimed you have owned all the ATV's out there which you said qualified you worthy of comparing them? Max you said a few days ago you just turned 16 and just got your license. How is that older than 16? And even if you were 4, or 40, you age doesn't matter, but what and how you post does. If a 10 year comes in here and can type as well as a professional journalist and has the knowledge of an engineer, nobody would question his age, because why would it matter? People aren't questioning your age because they think you aren't old enough to be here, but because you act very immature and have a "my dad can beat up your dad" attitude about everything. Really whether or not we capitalize, use periods, or have good spelling doesn't matter when the content is good. If you think the Max is so superior, that's fine. Why don't you start the "Max Connection" and you can hang out there all day long and make up "You might be riding a 'some terrain vehicle'" jokes. And then when everything is going well, I will come into your forums and chat room with a name ATVrules and tell everyone how ATV's rule and everything else sucks. I will post a bunch of stupid pictures, and make sure nobody has any respect for me. I would make sure that I give ATV's a bad name, and make sure that anytime someone from that forum saw an ATV they would think of my lame attitude. All you have done since you have been here is harass everyone, and give Max machines a bad name. How many people went from "Wow those look cool!" to being disgusted every time they see the word "max" ? It's obvious your not welcome here, and nobody wants you around. You have no Max buddies to talk too, and the few that have come here that might have something useful to say about their Max, left just as fast as they came because of the name you give them. In summary, I have seen a few Maxes out on the trails. They float like no other ATV can. They do great in most of the mud most of the time. They are good hill climbers. They can hold more cargo and carry more people than the average ATV. They have more traction, and torque, than some ATV's. And, they 'rule' in their niche. Now, I have used up all your reasons why the Max rules, and everyone knows them, so there is no need for you to further take up space with your post. Adam Dowden PS-If I offended any other Max owners, I apologize, I have nothing against the machine. They are great in their element. If anyone has any logical, useful data about Maxes that other readers will be interested in, please post it, I don't mean to stop all Max talk all together just what comes out of his mouth.

Posted by: quad_man

Hahaha, you don't know how jealous I really am of you! You might be the most famous person in the forums, but you can rest assured that in your case it's not much to be proud of.

Posted by: quad_man

You said: I don't want a Sportsman and never will. The only time I will sell my Max is when I have enough money to buy a 25hp Max IV. Well, you were never interested in the Sportsman, or Magnum? Well here are some direct quotes, cut & paste, just by you:
i am thinking of getting a Sportsman or Scrambler though. i may be going crazy, but I may get a Sportsman 500 I am interested in the Sportsman. If any quad, I must have the biggest and baddest. i sure wish I could demo one first. I'm looking for one around $5000 there would be nothing better than having both the Max and the Sportsman, that's for damn sure. think I could find a '98 Sportsman for $5000? yeah Max is forward, neutral, reverse. NO EZ SHIFT BELIEVE ME!!! i'm looking at new Polaris' this saturday i was interested in the Sportsman 335 i'm not sure how much it costs yeah that's what I was thinking, i'll look at the magnum also. I'm going for under $5000 hey, I looked at the Magnum, it was love at first sight, i think I will buy it i do have to sell my Max first though... :*-(----Max is still #1 I just like to get different things and do other things. there is a time and a place for everything
And there was more, many more, I just don't feel like finding anymore. This wasn't too long ago either! [This message has been edited by quad_man (edited 12-20-1999).]

Posted by: qrdude

Hmmm...wonder how I looked through that whole issue and didn't even see the Max. Lack of interest maybe? :)

Posted by: qrdude

Bill, If someone gave me a Max I might be lucky enough to be able to find someone that I could pay to take it.

Posted by: Bill.Ciliberti

I thought you was pulling a big boat?Hell my 14hp lawn tractor will pull that little poontoon.My Sportsman drags my bro's 21ft boat around the yard all the time.Im not yet impressed.----Bill ------------------

Posted by: Bill.Ciliberti

Never in a million years would I ever concider trading my quad for a Max.I sometimes trail ride well in excess of a 100 miles in a single day.Try doing that with a Max.If someone GAVE me a Max,perhaps than I'd own one.=======Bill ------------------

Posted by: Bill.Ciliberti

Adam,thank you for your reply to max.I for one am very tired of his MAX RULES posts.Your comments were WAY overdue.Thanks====BILL ------------------

Posted by: Bill.Ciliberti

Max,its real obvious that everyone really gives a rats as- about what you say to.Just look at the amount of responses to you from others.They dont sound to me like they care for you much.I dont claim to be the ATV God,but I would like to thank you for the compliment.If you would just continue to compliment others more often instead of bragging about the Max,you'd get along alot better with others.As for Boners post?Whats wrong with you?You post and brag about your mighty Max and someone finds something that you post that dis-credits your bragging,and you want them banned?Does the truth hurt?Do we ban Quad man for his truthful remarks also?Who REALLY needs to get a life?Think about it.Good Day, BILL ------------------

Posted by: Bill.Ciliberti

Speaking of liers and cheats,I think Andy and Boner's last posts unveiled the real lier and cheater in here. ------------------

Posted by: Max6x6

I was looking through Dirt Wheels magazine today at Wal-Mart. They had all the models for 2000 and some info about each. I was looking through the pages filled with quads and wondered why I they don't put the Max in there. I planned on emailing Dirt Wheels and asking them why. I turned the page and low and behold there is a Max! I would like to thank Dirt Wheels for being the first mag to put the Max in their 2000 model line up. Hopefully others will follow. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

I have heard on this forum that the SP500 had a hard time pulling a car trailer. Go to http://www.bcwheels.com/html/pictures2.html . Here you will see a pic of a Max pulling not only a trailer, but a trailer with a large pontoon boat on it. Pretty cool I think. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

Boner I have the ATV Magazine Buyer's Guide also. It is the issue with the DS650 tested at the top. I do not see the Max in with the 2000 line up although it is tested along with the HydroTraxx. Where do you see the Max in the 2000 line up? Maybe last month's issue? MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6



Posted by: Max6x6

Yes the Max is pulling that boat. The engines have just as much or even more power than a SP500. Although it does say 14hp it is 480cc. I think B&S engines are rated different than Polaris engines. B&S are twin cylinder so I think it might be 14hp per cylinder making it 28hp. The 14hp Max will still out pull the SP500 because the Max is geared low for pulling. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

All you lamers seem to think that is the absolute maximum the Max can pull. It is more than what any of you claim although the real contest is pulling dead weight. A rolling load is really easy to pull. Take the wheels off that pontoon trailer and you might have something. While pulling that load you much also be able to turn which with heavy loads quads wouldn't be able to do. I know a SP500 can't turn while pulling only a car trailer. If you want to see the Max in action get the Max video from www.maxallterrainvehicles.com. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

benelli - Put the parking break on those vehicles you are pulling and your SP335 won't be pulling them. A rolling load and dragging dead weight is a huge difference. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

I really put the Max to the test today. We cleaned up our yard by cutting down some trees and branches. I first chained up to a big cedar tree to use as sort of a trailer. I dragged it around the yard piling all the branches on top of it. By the time I had the whole yard done and the trees dragged to the brush pile I had a load 15 feet wide, 15 feet high, 30 feet long and approx. 1500 pounds dragging dead weight. I was amazed at the size of the load the Max was dragging. My Max looked like a little hot wheels toy beside this pile. I took a picture of it for proof. Now let's see a SP500 or Grizzly do that... and be able to turn! MaxRules (and I proved it)

Posted by: Max6x6

RoostKing - Both those STVs (some terrain vehicles) you named are only for speed. They can't handle any of the real off road like my Max can. BIGBEAR4x4 - Stacking trees on top of the cedar was really no problem. It has all those branches that hold the other trees in place. The cedar tree that I used was about 16" in diameter and 30 feet long, it must have weighed about 800 pounds just by itself. The only problem I had was that it was stacked to high that when I drove under other trees many of the would get scrapped off. I did get a pic and I think it should show the size pretty good. The Max is not as good as I make it out to be. The Max is BETTER than I make it out to be! I'll show you June '00 in KY. Be there. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

First annual bass boat pull - Sure we can have a tug of war. Since you have an outboard, to be fair I must have an outboard of equal HP. Another way of being fair is to take off your outboard. While my wheels are paddling you can use your hands to paddle your boat, that way neither of us use an outboard. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

Finally someone admits it, there is no comparison to the Max! Just show up at the ride in KY and afterwards we can trade in your old boat for a new Max. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

6x6 vs. 8x8 - The major advantage to the 8x8 is cargo area. The Argo 8x8 has enough room for six people. The HydroTraxx, even though it is a 6x6, is a large machine but has enough room for seven people. The Max II is meant mostly for recreation and is the smallest 6x6 on the market. The Max IV has room for four people or some cargo room and it still kept small. The Max Buffalo is two passenger with lots of cargo room in the back. Argo 6x6s are all four passenger and have good cargo room. The main advantage Argo has is cargo... after all, you can't spell cargo without Argo! MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

The 8x8 has no real traction advantage over the 6x6 but I am told it rides really smooth. xplorer - You are really a piece of work. I admire your English skills, you can write an entire paragraph using only one capital letter and one period! You appear to be the kid here. I look small for my age but I asure you I am over 16. I bought the Max with cash after trying several other quads and ATVs. There is no other ATV or STV (some terrain vehicle) that can compare with the Max's versitility, mud, snow, water, it doesn't matter what obsticle you need to conquer. I bought the Max because it is the only vehicle that has been able to take me anywhere I want to go. Like I said before, show up at the ride in KY and I will show you that Max rules. You can talk the talk but you can't walk the walk. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

All you lamers post "information" about quads but have no proof to back it up. I post pictures and info taken from their actual sources instead of something I just thought up. xplorer, I know how you expected a truthful and information filled reply. The Max 6x6 has advantages over the Argo 8x8 because of less weight and true six wheel drive. The 8x8 is mostly used for carrying lots of cargo. There is no quad that can take unlimited water, unlimited snow, and more mud than you can walk through like the Max and Argo can. Quads can't do it half as good even with all the mods out there. Mods really don't count though, I could strap a jet engine to my Max and go 99999mph and launch into outter space, but that doesn't count. If you live near KY I would expect you to come. You have plenty of time to plan it. I would guess that you were just scared if you don't show up. There is only one way to prove yourself, seeing is believing. MaxRules (and you all know it)

Posted by: Max6x6

The Max is designed to stay on top of mud instead of sinking like a quad does. I ride in mud far deeper than any quad does. If there is any water at all on top of the mud the Max will not get stuck. I have a mud pit with two feet of solid mud, that means all mud, not 2 inches of mud and 22 inches of water. It is nearly impossible to walk in this mud because it holds your boots. I have ventured to walk across it and I find that most of the time I have to pry my boot out of it with my hand to take the next step. I have drove through ruts dug out by trucks and make it with ease. I have owned many quads while you have never owned a Max. I can compare them, you cannot. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

If you can give me some info on it I'm sure I can tell you what it is. How many wheels, made with what material, things like that. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

I owned a Terra Jet once but sold it for the Max. It was a very old but yet very dependable machine. It was good in water, carried three people, and had about 10" of ground clearance with 26" tires. It is made of heavy metal. Mine had a 16hp Tecumseh engine which had plenty of power to pull about anything. Good machines, the only bad thing is they had to big of a turning radius because they are not skid steer. You can see many pictures of it on my site. An Attex 25 years ago does not hardly compare to a new Max. I do know that they would pull any hill with more than just you in it. I am told they are good machines but I have never owned one. I am sure there was just something wrong with the one you had. I am building a new page on my site soon that will feature quads. It will show all the ways that a 6x6 is superior. I have some great pics of mud, including one that shows a SP500 stuck. It is so pitiful I can hardly stand to look at it. This "mud" would not even affect my Max. I just can't wait 'till June... Max is the BEST DEEP MUD MACHINE. MaxRules www.homestead.com/maxatvs

Posted by: Max6x6

If it was even a Max, I'm sure it was about 30 years old. Also, I don't think "broken down" is the same as smoking badly. Maybe it was a 2-stroke. The Max is best in any mud. Since you have never even seen a Max, you would have no clue now would you? I have gone through more mud than your piece of **** could even attempt. A mud hole is not the same thing as a water hole. A hole with two feet of water and 2 inches of mud is not a mud hole, it is a water hole. I take solid mud that is over my knees, again that means two feet of mud and 0" of water. When did I ever say Max does not give you the true mudding experience? You seem to be getting desparate to make things up. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

If there is any water on top of mud the Max will not get stuck. I have a mud pit with two feet of solid mud in it. In this type of extreme mud there is a possibility of getting stuck. Lame "water holes" are no challange for the Max. I haven't climbed any good 80 degree hills lately. Max speed in water is 4-6mph. This is a fine speed and if you want to travel faster or in fast moving water you can get a trolling motor or an outboard. Max water speed = 4-6 mph Quad water speed = 0 mph 'nuff said. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

Like I said before, it was probably really old. When something is smoking I would say that was a really old engine that was about to blow up. 1970 Max = 1999 Max? NOPE. It could have been another kind of 6x6 that looked like a Max also. There are almost 60 different 6x6s from the '70s. I had a 1972 Sierra Trail Boss 6x6. It was tons of fun but because everyone "fixed" it, the thing was totally junk. The only problem it really had was the axles but that was enough to cause lots of problems. It had a 338cc Kohler 2-stoke and would beat the average 4x4 in a drag race. Tug of war, Max IV 25hp 6x6 vs. Argo Conquest 20hp 8x8. I am sure the Max would win because of more power, I don't think the Argo would win just because of two more wheels. I am told that 8x8s give a really smooth ride though. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

I totally disagree with the unstable in water thing. I can stand up in the Max and rock it as hard as possible and there is still no chance of tipping over. I don't think it would be better to use different tires. The stock tires are best suited for the Max for both mud and water. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

It is possible for any ATV or STV to take a 90 degree hill. It is pretty much impossible to ban anyone because you can just get a new nick name. Besides, I know you enjoy my company :) My Max can already fly... Land, Water, even Air! ATV of the New Millenium. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

The primary reason I bought the Max was of course for speed. I need at least 9" of suspension travel and get pissed off when I don't get at least 20 feet of air. Next time I want to go fast I'll get in my truck and go 120mph down the road. I can get about three feet of air and bottom out the suspension when I hit. See you in Kentucky June '00. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

I must say that was one of the funniest posts ever made on this board by Ryda. Informing me that I have no suspension... Thanks! I am old enough to drive legally. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

The Max is very stable in water. You can hit the water really fast and the water will come up on the front but normally not over it. Even it does you will just have some water in it but no problem. I have crossed flooded creeks with rushing water. If you do a lot of water stuff with a current it would be best to buy an outboard motor for faster travel. The Max would not be hard to retrieve if you somehow managed to sink it. It will still float with the wheels even when sunk. You can push it to shore or have another Max pull it. I have had both Max and Argo in the water and they are both very stable. xplorer there is no suspension. With six wheels and soft tires there is really no need. Shocks would only run up the price, increase the weight, no good for water, and would not be as durable. SCman are you really coming? What do you ride? I would love to see you there. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

I have already posted my comments on that POS in the utility ATVs forum. It doesn't float good enough to do anything with, if actually at all. Far too wide for any woods travel, very expensive for all those wheels, tires, and spacers. Another thing most people don't see is that when those wheels stick way out like that and catch a tree with some speed that axle will snap like a twig. It still couldn't mud like that Max. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

The Argo stomping, ATV crushing, beast from the East, the Maxzilla! 18-wheeled Max II at Superior Off Road ATVs, the #1 Max dealer in the US. Pic from the site www.maxallterrainvehicles.com MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

Only because it was floating? Nah, after a second look you saw that it was a quad. (Sh*t floating the in the toilet) Kinda funny though. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

I think five more HP would help out more than two wheels for 6x6 vs. 8x8. It would be a good competition and the weight of the 8x8 might help it. A 250R or Banshee and no power to pull things. They are high geared for very high speeds. Even the smallest Max (14hp) would pull both of them together easily. I do not go 120mph in my truck but if I wanted some speed, there it is. My mud pit is two feet of solid mud. The mud comes up to about 2-3" from the top of my tires. When (and if you decide to) get out and walk in it, your feet are lower than the Max's wheels. This is because the Max floats and paddles itself through the mud. This way if you dive off in to four feet of mud you don't just disappear. Nothing muds like the Max. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

Adam since you own a Scrambler 500 so you are obviously out there for speed. The Max with triple wheels is to show off and gives the dealer lots of attention. That dealer used to drive the big rigs, that is where he got the 18-wheeler idea. I don't want a Sportsman and never will. The only time I will sell my Max is when I have enough money to buy a 25hp Max IV. I turned 16 on November 7. Since December 20th is after Nov 7, I am older than 16. There is a 6x6 discussion board (which is better than this ATV board) in which I am just as famous there as I am here. Everyone there has owned a 6x6 or 8x8 and knows there is nothing better. There is no better knowledge than experience. I have gotten many visits to my site and emails about buying a new Max from people who saw me on this site. It is obvious I am welcome here. I am the most famous person on this site. Too bad you have to be jealous that not all the attention is centered around you and your broken down quad. The main reason I post here is to tell others about an ATV they probably don't know about. It also provides some good entertainment when know nothing people like you try to post something about the Max. I really like the person who informed me that my Max has no suspension, there's a real winner. Bill no one gives a rat's ass what you say. You think you are the god of ATVs. I've got a life, and starting now you better find one too. DEATH TO THE KING QUAD! MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

We have a new all time funniest post. That was GOOD! MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

Ok let's try to recover from the laughter and talk about BONER's post. That is a direct quote from me that was not intended for the audience of atving.com. He did not have my permission to post it. It should be deleted and consideration should be taken to ban BONER from the forums. MaxRules

Posted by: Max6x6

No I changed my mind, I really like BONER's post. Mostly the last part... The only way to prove something is to see it which will be done in KY. I don't see any of you losers coming to see the truth. I can understand, nothing hurts more than the truth. You can talk all you want, it is just talk. The quad industry seems to be centered around lies and cheats. MaxRules

Posted by: whisky

Ok max you are real cool. Come in here and brag about your max and then you insult Bill because he said something your the one that needs a life. heres some advice for you max tell someone who cares. which means dont post here anymore because no one cares about your bath tub on wheels root and tear drink and swear

Posted by: LiveWire

I edited this post after realizing the thread that I had responded to. I only saw the first few posts. I would have prefered to let this thread die. Below is my original post. If you want to compare pulling power, the pulling schedule for the Mid Michigan Mini Tractor Pulling Association is at http://Steve.Bishop.net/mmmtpa The Polaris quads rule the ATV pulls. They are still spinning their tires when they stop. The Hondas and other machines with auto clutches are not spinning their tires, but the engine is still revving. Pretty much everything out pulled a 6x6 that was there one day. It had a Kohler command 20HP motor.

Posted by: benelli

I own a car dealership and I pull cars, trucks, vans all the time with my sp335. It's all flat blacktop surface.

Posted by: benelli

Hey max6x6x6x6x6x6x6x6x6x6x6x6x6x6..... Why don't we have a pulling contest with your max and my bass boat in the water.

Posted by: benelli

Max, No comment on the bassboat pull?

Posted by: benelli

Max, If you want to be fair about things then why do you compare an atv with 6 wheels against one with 4? And one designed to float with one that don't?

Posted by: xplorer

Everybody Ifyou can't tell by his comments look at his web site your all fighting with a KID yeah really his dad had to buy his maxx because one a atv over 100ccs is illegal under 16yrs of age two his parents didnt want him to get hurtso they bought him a xtra 2 wheels for more stability,and there fear of mudding with an atv could lead to a common cold due to spashing of water so they bout him a PADDLE BOAT instead.Also Mr Know IT ALL stick to your recess games at school and leave the real riding to us fourwheelers and another thing kidd You said yourself nothing compares to a maxx so why do you hang out and harrass an web site with nothing but fourwheelers and give us **** all the time if there was other maxx owners who frequently responded here I could see your reason for possibly checking up on the forum for possibly useful imformation and to share experiances with other maxx owners however since your maxx is nothing to the equivelent and our quads have absolutly no comparison to your maxx so you plainly state day in and day out I could only conclude that your purpose and intentions is to only harrass users of this forum,I'm sure anyone else who has witness your off the subject comments for the past year would also agree,so why dont you stick to your own breed or use this forum for what it was intended and mature up and then pehaps people would listen to you more instead of taking offense to you everyday maxx rules comments!!!!

Posted by: xplorer

Maxx don't get me wrong I'm sure your probly an awsome person to hang out with but I see so much frustation in all most every post you join and your really making a bad name for yourself anyway I'm sure the maxx is an awsome piece of work with It also having it's advantages over some aspects of other atvs just dont push your opinions so hard dude later on ! enjoy the sport dont ruin it....

Posted by: xplorer

First off Mr Education it would be writing skills not English skills,And second this is the reply I expected of you!You proved yourself truly ignorant and oh forget it.good day

Posted by: xplorer

Maxx,what is the speed of your maxx in water? Not saying mph but maybe feet per minute,or any other way of describing it?

Posted by: xplorer

I wonder of anyone at maxx headquarters knows of this kid?I swear to god maxx save your breath here and go to work for maxx with your wild illusions and your aggressive stubborness you would make freakin millions.However if it wasn't for the fact that you are under age I would swear that you already work for maxx!Wait a minute I think I'm on to something here maybe you are employed by maxx and your sole purpose here is to advertise maxx's products??????????????????God I wish it was true then we could notify atvbbs and you would forever be banned for solicitation!!Anyway maxx I could make millions buy turning you into a comic book character and sell it to all these people that dislike you but don't take offinse to this I'll make your maxx mobile turbo powered and it will also fly,yeah really it would be great youd never have to come in here again because this is atv connection and youd be UFO connection but don't worry you'd have tons of visitors on your own site yeah all those freaks who talk a bunch of B S you'd be in heaven dude!!!Oh yeah no need to rip on my writting skills I bought hooked on fonixs yesterday and soon I'll be at your status of intelligence!

Posted by: xplorer

Oh yeah,you say your maxx does 80 degree inclines ,we'll our quads beat you there we can do 90 degree inclines all day long it's call the wheelie!!! beat ya maxx!!!!!

Posted by: xplorer

Yeah your right maxx I enjoy your company,without your annoying posts everyday I don't think I'd have anyone else to show off my writting skills to.later on dudes~

Posted by: xplorer

Is there suspension on a maxx if so whats the amount of travel and also what's the ground clearance on that ?

Posted by: xplorer

Perhaps I shall get banned for this but I shall say it Note from atvbbs: Continue posting language such as you used in your original post and you shall, indeed, be banned. Follow Forum guidelines regarding offensive language. Thank you for your cooperation. atvbbs [This message has been edited by atvbbs (edited 12-20-1999).]

Posted by: SCman

"If there is any water at all on top of the mud the Max will not get stuck." That is a quote from an earlier post, Max6x6. "I take solid mud that is over my knees, again that means two feet of mud and 0" of water." That is a quote from your latest post. Which is it? Seems to me you might try to get along with everyone and maybe, just maybe understand that people bought what they wanted to, just as you did. You have proliferated these forums with your abject aversion to 4x4's. The one thing you have accomplished is to unify all the different brand owners against you. Why can't you be satisfied with being an off-road brother, rather than a propogandist?

Posted by: SCman

Yes Max6x6.........see you in June '00. Oh yeah, and that gravy boat on wheels of yours.

Posted by: SCman

Yes Max6x6, I hope to be there. Kclayd only lives a couple hours from me and it shouldn't be hard to hook up in Ashville. Gonna try to talk a couple of my friends into coming also. I would like to hear your "death to the king quad" statement and the like in person.

Posted by: SCman

Main Entry: ter·rain Pronunciation: t&-'rAn also te- Function: noun Etymology: French, land, ground, from (assumed) Vulgar Latin terranum, alteration of Latin terrenum, from neuter of terrenus of earth -- more at TERRENE Date: 1766 1 a (1) : a geographical area (2) : a piece of land : GROUND b : the physical features of a tract of land There's Webster's definition of terrain. Notice there is NO WATER. So if you take water out of the equation, your main discerning feature is phooey when compared to quads. Stick to comparing apples to apples. So let's compare WATER vehicles, shall we? You gonna have a shoot-out with a bass boat? How about a canoe? You could probably take them in the mud.

Posted by: polaris_rules

Max, You are not old enough to drive are you?

Posted by: polaris_rules

For a minute I thought it was a max.

Posted by: TxDoc2

Did you buy that issue of Dirt Wheels, or just get a "freebie" read while at Wal-Mart? :)

Posted by: TxDoc2

Boner, your dad said that you go to Wal Mart, read for free, THEN tear out the pages you want and go home and post the new information for us! Save money on magazines and buy a winch! I know how it works down there. I told you I am honorary part coonass, remember? Let them good times roll, son.

Posted by: TxDoc2

Did you have any yard left after dragging that around?

Posted by: TxDoc2

What about the 6x6 VS the 8x8??

Posted by: TxDoc2

An 8x8 has no traction advantage over a 6x6?

Posted by: TxDoc2

TWO more tires and no more traction?? Oh My. Max rules, or ruled, but does 8x8 now rule Max? Somebody has got to have a traction advantage in the battle of the tire total. 3WD HONDA(my rig), then True 4WD(Polaris), then max, then 8X8? [This message has been edited by TxDoc2 (edited 12-14-1999).]

Posted by: TxDoc2

Well,I saw a max today. It was broken down. No joke. It was on the side of the road. Smoking badly. What about the 8 X 8 again? That kinda was glossed over.

Posted by: TxDoc2

Yeah, it was broken down, and smoking. Broken down and smoking. It was a max 6x6. I stopped and let him use my cell phone. He was pissed off at his machine. I did not ask him about the 8 X 8. What about the 8 X 8 vs the 6 x 6? Two more tires and more contact patch with the ground for more traction. Isn't that right? Check it out.

Posted by: TxDoc2

Boner--Did you see max's big brother?? The Hydro-Trax with a big hydraulic pump that feeds six individual drive motors? The Hydro-Traxx also has an option of an outboard motor mount! Do you think max can hang with the 8X8??

Posted by: TxDoc2

max-in a pull against an 8 x 8, you think you would win OR you have won? I think we have a new master and ruler of the universe against which max must be measured! (The ruler and measured pun was for TreeFarmer :))

Posted by: BONER

Sorry Max6x6 But when I got my ATV Magazine Buyiers guide about a month ago it had the Max also. And I have seen the max in almost every buyers guide sinch 97, when I got my first Dirt Wheels mag.

Posted by: BONER

You are right it isn't in the guide. My mistake.

Posted by: BONER

Hey thats what I do most of the time.

Posted by: BONER

Yea,that is a small boat. I have also seen a 350 Honda PULL and Isuzu with the Isuzu pulling back. About the engines. The reason quad motors make more horsepower than B&S motors is because the are way more advanced. Besides that the B&S motors are tuned for low-end torque.

Posted by: BONER

A quad would turn easyer than the max because you would not have to put less power to the ground to turn which is what you have to do on a skidsteerer like your max.

Posted by: BONER

Are you going to show every body how you climb those 80 degree hills?

Posted by: BONER

Max, I don't get it. You are trying to say that the same things that make your max better than our quads doesn't make the 8x8x better. Then you say that you have pic to back ,what you say, up. So do we but to you they don't count. You say you're over 16, but you don't look it AND you don't act it, You can't even tell ABOUT what angle a hill is.

Posted by: BONER

Why arn't you talking about those 80 degree hills that you climb with your Max?

Posted by: BONER

TxDoc2, You don't get it yet? 2 more tires than a quad = awesome. 2 more tires than a max = average. But if Max 6x6 owned an 8x8, it would be 2 more tires than a Max = awesome. And of course his name would be Argo 8x8.

Posted by: BONER

I read in Atv Magazine (you have the issue0 the the max was unstable in water. Do you agree? I am just woundering. Is it possible to but better mud tires(Super Swampers or Realtors)? I know it would hurt the water speed but would it be worth it in the mud?

Posted by: BONER

LOL!!!!!

Posted by: BONER

I care what Bill says. I think there are bunch of others that do also. I have been to the 6x6 site you are talking about. You are just as much of a pest over there as you are here. People got tired of you posting thing like this: I have been out riding also. I was trying to climb through a big ditch yesterday. I screwed up and took it strait on instead of at an angle. I dropped off a 2 foot high 90 degree hill into the ditch and was pointing strait up an 8 foot high 80 degree hill on the other side. I couldn't back up because of the ditch and was at the wrong and with no speed for the hill in front of me. My engine continued to run even on the 80 degree hill. I worked the sticks to make it go at an angle so I could back out. I worked it for about five minutes. I guess the hill was too steep for my engine to function well and it started burning oil and smoking like a two stroke. I shut if off to give it a break. I looked around the area to figure out what I could do to make it easier to get out. It was dark by now and I turned on my headlights so I could see what was happening. After about 10 minutes of having my headlights on I got in to try again. I turned the key and "click". What? My battery is dead in just 10 minutes??? How could this be possible? Oh well my trusty Briggs and Stratton has a pull start. I pulled it about 5 times and no start. I was about to go home and try again tomorrow. For some reason I got back in and turned the key. No trouble this time, it started right up! Is that weird or what? I was kinda mad by now and I was going to get the hell out of that ditch no matter what. This time I was able to get at an angle and half way backed up. I put it in forward and gave it full throttle. I hit that 80 degree hill and got about 3/4 of the way up. I started to loose traction and with all six wheels spinning the machine started jumping. I held the throttle wide open and after a few jumps I reached the top of the hill. Climbing that hill made it all worth while so I was mostly laughing about the whole deal on the ride home. One thing I realized is everytime I get in a situation like this is because I didn't handle the terrain properly. Maybe tomorrow I will go back there and do it right. I must add that I am glad I wasn't on a quad. No quad would have made it because of the ditch and you can't use any speed. Without a doubt a quad would have rolled on that 80 degree hill. I am not talking about a steep hill, I mean a hill that is almost impossible to even walk on. I had to hold on to my Max and a near by tree to get down it. I slipped and fell once and slid all the way down into the ditch. This really flared my anger but now that I am home I look back and laugh at that... haha. I had an awesome time. MaxRules This was posted 12/9/99 4:47:48 AM in 6x6talk@route6x6.com.

Posted by: Sneekypete

Max The pictures I saw of the Max in water gave only a few inches before water would come over the top. Can the Max cross anything other than a shallow pond? I mean anything with a current beyond 4mph. I would be afraid that if there was a current beyond 4mph or so or a little wind pushing you, you would be in major trouble! I am thinking of when I have gone canoeing and gotten crossways in a stream. It doesn't take much to flood it, and I am quite certain the max won't handle as well as a canoe. Have you ever seen one flooded? Come on be truthful now! Got any pictures? How in the *ell would you ever get that sucker out of the water? I got news for you, a 2500 lb. winch, even with a snatch block, is going to be hard pressed, very hard pressed. Me thinks you have to be very selective about the water you "cross". Other than deep "calm" water, I doubt the Max is much more, if any better at water crossing than a Quad, at lease on trails that are common where I ride. In fact, I expect that the Max will be swept down stream long before my old beast of a SP500. Seeeeeeeeyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!! Sneeky

Posted by: quadmasterbound

Hey Maxx, I owned an Attex 6 wheeler 25 yrs ago. It had a 10 hp Briggs in it. That thing would't pull itself up a hill let alone with me in it. I spent more time workin on it than I did using it. And for water travel? I could swim faster than that Attex moved. In closing, It sounds like your Maxx is one heck of a machine. It's a wonder that with modern technology Maxx has made such a superior machine over that Attex with only a 4 hp. increase in engine output. I'm sure Maxx must have made some awesome improvements that you can't see, because they sure didn't make any exterior improvements that you can see. It looks just like my Attex did, 25 years ago, a bathtub with wheels on it. But to each his own. Have a great day

Posted by: Ryda

Nice pic!Although,it doesn't really look like the max is actually pulling the trailer,doesn't look like the tires be a rollin?What do u think? Also,the max2 only comes with three different size motors,14hp,16hp,and an 18hp,now,I'm sure the SP500 has more power than that,how could it have had a hard time pulling that boat? [This message has been edited by Ryda (edited 12-09-1999).]

Posted by: Ryda

That aint dead wieght,that's DRAGGING wieght,it's pulling something that's pulling the other way!

Posted by: Ryda

Yeah really!Let's see that pic!What did you do,take a tape measure and measure everything?!How did you get how much weight u pulled around,how did u figure out the weight?YOU GOOD,mmm hmmm,i recon!

Posted by: Ryda

WOW!!!!I bet you were really feeling the rush off that 2 inch jump!!I bet you were doing what, 20mph!!!WOW!!!DUDE!!!!you good!HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!LOSER!!!Fly,you stupid man,man,i can do more on foot than you can do on your max!!!

Posted by: Ryda

You aint got no suspension on that piece of shi*!!!!!I bet you aint even old enough to shave yet!!!

Posted by: Ryda

I must say max,that is a pretty impressive looking picture.I like it!

Posted by: Ryda

I don't know,the only truck i ever knew to go 120mph was my dad's F-250 with the big block 460 in it.TALK ABOUT POWER!!!!!Also the dodge 360 small block will get u up around there pretty quick.

Posted by: bignasty

Hey MAX, I found someone in the UTILITY section that asked what the best 4by4 is. He said he rides in a lot of WATER. Maybe you can help him out. :]

Posted by: bignasty

Okay, okay, speaking of the mighty max pulling alot of weight and everything, what about the Kawasaki Mule. I bet that thing could pull you all over the world and back. My dad has one and he pulls everything with it, and I'm not talking about branches around the yard. I mean stuff like 2500 pound (or more) drags digging into the ground for about 5 miles in the woods (at my hunting club). It has a very strong engine and I also heard it can float with larger tires. They come stock with 22's. Also, it can take water up to the the row (sp) bar up top. That is where the engine breather is. So, you may have a little competition here Max. How does anyone else think the Mule and a Max compare to each other? [This message has been edited by bignasty (edited 12-14-1999).]

Posted by: bignasty

I have one question. I have seen some kind of machine that acually looks like a boat but has wheels. This is not just someone's rig either. You can buy these things. If I'm not mistaken, I think they call them a Pilot or something. Correct me if I'm wrong about the name. So, anyway, If anyone knows what the hell I am talking about, how does it compare to a MAX. They can float, it has a smooth bottom that skids across the top of mud with some pretty agressive AWD tires on it. Someone please tell me they know what I am talking about. I will have to wait and talk to my brother in law. They have a few at his camp.

Posted by: bignasty

Hey guys, my mistake, it's not a pilot, it's a Terry Jet. It's made of aluminum and has 4 wheels. It has a descent amount of ground clearance due to the large sized tires. If I can get a picture, I will post it. I hope someone knows what the heck I'm talking about to further explain what this thing is made like. I'm illiterate about the specs and the engine.

Posted by: 250rampage

In response to: "It is obvious I am welcome here. I am the most famous person on this site. " You may be the most famous person in this board (for max, argo, pilot, and odessey), but are in no way the most famous person on the whole forum. Also, the reason you are well known on this board is because people are sick and tired of you always saying that the max is best. Come on, Jefery Domer, the unibomber, and other people are famous, but I wouldn't welcome them in my house.