To each his own. Those that have had both or ridden both don't need your or my opinion, they just know. And take a gander at the major Suzuki forum and tell me the King Quad frame issue is miniscule. And if you are so much an expert, give me the forum names of more than 10 persons that have had frame issues with a Renegade or Outlander. And I am not talking about all the "well, my buddies frame" or "I know a guy whose frame.....". It just is not all you make it out to be. I have over 6000 miles of trails and rock gardens on my Outlander. The frame is still there, carring me with loads of power and quess what, no damage. I do have skids as all quads that do rocks and trails should have. I believe the Can Am's from 09 up come with factory skids. And I hope you enjoy your Grizz 700 and Popo 800. I wouldn't trade either, or even both, for my Outlander. And unless you are just dumb and blind, the Can Ams are the best of the best and have been for a couple of years. Not taking anything from the 850 XP, it is a nice machine, just not the best.
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